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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 15 2018 14:22 GMT
#6
Cannot help myself

/in
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 15 2018 23:08 GMT
#18
Whenever this starts, this game will be bottom-tier priority for me.

I will use this as an opportunity to trial a post-restriction strategy; whereby, my post count will be limited to the thread page count - Unless of course I am a lead wagon, where survival becomes utmost priority.

GL HF.


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 19 2018 23:05 GMT
#142
On March 20 2018 08:00 Tictock wrote:
Please insert Alignment Indicative opening here.

Thanks.

FILTER STARTS HERE
+1
This made me laugh (almost out loud).

Moosey annoying me already.
20 people is already a lot of filter to have to go through, let alone this spam.

No further thoughts worth sharing.

Post 1 / 7

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 19 2018 23:12 GMT
#153
On March 20 2018 08:06 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also the number of players in this game worries me. Someone will have to enlighten me on setup because I do not know what it is.

Can't be me this time, because I don't know what it is either. I guess the most important question would be: How many mafia are there? The answer to this question will heavily influence all kinds of strategic decisions.
I can see why this may be relevant to consider; as I too, prefer to focus on what I think others will do.

However, we need to bear in mind that with the limited information at hand, we will always be on the backfoot.
This can potentially create unnecessary filter length and theoretical divides between players for little resemblance of the truth.

Instead, I would encourage to focus on lynching scum this cycle as opposed to potential setup talk.

Post 2/8




Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 19 2018 23:18 GMT
#160
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.
What is your assessment when being unfair?

Is feigning setup knowledge the core reason for this "lean"?
If so, why is this indicative of scum vs. any other possibility?



For those commenting on capped post.
Your position is truly short sighted.
Early game is [b]always spammy, even more so with 20 players.
There is no risk of blowing cap at this phase of the game.

Post 3/8

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 19 2018 23:54 GMT
#185
On March 20 2018 08:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now you got me even more confused.



point 1. Your question of holyflares "read" on me is the best thing so far.

point 2. mocsta is making bad "fucktard" posts.


Point 1 is something anyone in that game was completely aware of.
Highlighting this may be "the best thing so far" but is hardly meaningful of anything.

Point 2 can be equally extended to yourself. Why so angry this game?

What do you make of Exo, given :
- Apologetic re: Exo read on Moosey
- Concerned re: HF read on Kelsier

Post 4 / 9
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 19 2018 23:56 GMT
#186
Kelsier.

Guess mindmeld only works for ppl you like right..

how about fuck you & have a good sleep

Post 5 / 10

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 00:08 GMT
#192
The #188 timestamp pinged me.

Indicates active lurking against #187.
The speculation becomes why n00bking feels Ex0that is worth delurking for.



DF, stay in character puh-lease. Im finding it amusing (and clear aside from the reference to the missing arms)

Post 6 / 11
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 00:57 GMT
#208
On March 20 2018 09:48 Alakaslam wrote:

SSON

POUR OVER SSON

ESPRESSO SHIT WAS SO LAST GAME MAN[/QUOTE]Damn SSON

You need more fibre in your diet!



Did you prefer my delurk or n00bkings?

Post 7 / 11
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 01:55 GMT
#233
On March 20 2018 10:26 Tictock wrote:
Ohhh, Free town read to Slam for posting some elctro-swing. One of my fav's too!

Bah gotta post content, trying not to spam.

So far I've only got a few weak town reads, and some sus on Exo, Conversion, and maybe KSC.

Exo and Conv seem to be calling out scum reads just kus they feel like they need to. Either not explaining or posting bad reasons for their scum reads.

KSC just jumping on anything he can, but at least he gave some indications why.
Of those 3 names, I think KSC is the greenest.

- Post before sleep indicates proactive attitude to interactions
- Abrasiveness does not come across as merely to disrupt the thread

To borrow a phrase from last game, KSC alignment may be whether he is Pricky] or Prickly lol

Regarding Ex0, I am confused by how he immediately changed tone relating to HF.
Its almost a m00t point now that several have blatantly called out the post prior, leading to several outs and most likely a meaningless exchange regarding that item. Still a question mark area for me unfortunately, sigh.

My current thought process or leap of faith is that Ex0 may not be scum; rather, (at least) one of the people going aggressively into him is. Will ruminate on this further.

Post 8 / 11
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 01:58 GMT
#235
On March 20 2018 10:54 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:
Hi ykl.

I hope you are prepared for how quickly this game is likely to pick up.

People usually throw out votes super early around here to kinda get the ball rolling, though it is up to you to determine how serious these votes are.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hint: Koshi's votes are not likely to be very serious


It sounds like you might be familiar with Forum Mafia, do you play on another site?

Eh, its fine. The filter just isolates posters right? pretty useful feature, the rest of the site could use it.
I've never played forum-based before, just other versions of Mafia.

Anyway, so that this isn't just a pointless spam post. I don't think I like the weird posting style darthfoley is using, seems like a deliberate attempt to muddy up waters for no good reason.

I don't like the early call out from Conversion or ExO-, both are very weak reads based off almost no data. I don't think either are scum but I think you'd be chasing down the wrong path.
PING.

What gives this impression other than TMI.

Post 9 / 12
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 03:01 GMT
#277
On March 20 2018 11:32 ykl wrote:
Also, the whole reason Mocsta even called me out to begin with was that I thought Conversion's early call on n00bking was misguided.
Hi ykl,
Above is a gross simplification.

Refering to #232
TMI related to you expressing that: Ex0, Conversion, Moosey & n00bking are all "chasing down the wrong path".

This does not only infer they are all not scum. But that they are also all town - enough that further info is not needed.

Your explanation since does not address the Moosey/n00bking element either.

Post 10 / 14





Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 05:10 GMT
#287
Interesting game so far.

I have observed many are hung up that others arent playing the game, they believe it should be played.
Have we forgotten that mafia dont want early spotlight.. that most of us do the stupid shit not when we are mafia, but instead, when we are town?

I think an environment is being created where yes, plenty of stones are being lifted: Ex0, Conversion, Disinfo, ykl to name a few. However, are these really the best stones we could lift?

I have decided to look elsewhere, and found a stone worth sharing with all.
Now if you want to be smart and say: "Oi m8, if this stone has blended in; how did you find it", my response simply is "You suck, thats how"

Now for the big reveal:
This stone has a filter that rhymes with COCK BLOCK.. yes, it can only be:



##Vote: Tictock

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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 06:25 GMT
#292
##Unvote
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 07:00 GMT
#296
Rayn,

Work with me on ykl please.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=ykl

On one hand, I find ykl to be calm, open and displaying a bona fide motivation to contribute.
On the other hand, I find the content to be very reactive, and in some ways, forced.

I can see this coming from town or scum - what are you current thoughts?

+ Show Spoiler [ykl thoughts] +

#232 still feels to me like TMI
- DF may be annoying a few people, but ykl is the only that states he is muddying up waters.
- The Convo/Ex0 read I still find an odd position to hold; as forum/IRL games both have players capable of "getting the ball rolling" as scum. My only pause is that many players do treat this as a heuristic - So it is not necessarily a false claim to state.

#260 alludes to the heuristic being based on experience. So I could drop that convo/Ex0 read as a scum tell in isolation.

#269 is an odd interpretation of events and the addition of "misguided" requires ykl to assume I think n00bking is scum.
This is against what ykl has communicated as a read, which I believe, should trigger a query to me.

#279 can be interpreted as mimicking thread sentiment at worst, or a change of opinion with new knowledge at best.
Suddenly, moosy/NK are considered scummy. Interestingly enough, should this not also result in an adjustment to Ex0 and Conversion who have now called out scummy people?

#286 now inserts OMGUS as a reason to consider NK. Perhaps was already tending towards this outcome in #269.


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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 07:08 GMT
#299
On March 20 2018 15:56 rsoultin wrote:
Feeling good about Rayn (means seems town so far for people who need reads laid out super obvious like)

Some of what mocsta is pinging on reminds me of his town game, so maybe his entrance was just bad. Worth still monitoring given I townread him throughout his last scum game.

Don't like the ykl scumread. I'm not really reading him anything but I think giving a newbie space to get his bearings rather than jumping down his throat is worthwhile. Also it's just a shit read. There's nothing tmi-like about saying you don't think ppl are scum but they're probably on the wrong track imo.

Slam is not giving me the adorable aimless vibes. I usually love reading his posts and keeping him around. Might be scum.

I've read everyhing else but these are the only things that stuck in my head lol >< will comment further later in the day when I have more free time.
Hi Tina,

Im near my post cap, but felt compelled to burn one.
I dont like this post at all from you, and it has nothing to do with OMGUS.

- The free Rayn read is pointless as town. He has not come under any scrutiny, and this seems opportune given he is online.

- The read on me is very wishy-washy. I will let this slide in isolation; however, at some point you cannot keep defaulting to "he was in my trust-circle one game - never trust again"

- The ykl read is interesting and primarily why you have got me burning a post.
For all this effort to defend ykl.. I really should be a stronger read than "wishy-washy".
After all, you painted the picture prior that I could be scum. Seems that you are just struggling to lie about it now.

- Lastly, between page 7 - 15, its peculiar that the only things of merit worth discussing are Rayn/Kelsier and Mocsta/ykl.
If ykl is such a poor read from me; why not comment on ykl read on n00bking.
What about Koshi read on disinfo which has also had some airtime.
What about Vivax push on Ex0_.

Yes, I might have to consider getting slam drafted in to lay some of that "espresso shit" lol
P.S. Take a position on me, bbygur1

Post 13 / 15
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 07:15 GMT
#301
On March 20 2018 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Gonna look into it in 15mins when i am home, igot into middle of something rn. In the meantime any thoughts on my post 291?
Last post for a bit. Need to reserve some for influx of people waking up.

In short, I find #291 to be a serious post. I think it demonstrates a lack of care to read the thread.
Does this make Ex0_ mafia or town... well, whilst both parties do this, I think town is more likely than mafia to NOT read closely early game; and mafia is more likely than town to do this as the game progresses and becomes a waiting match.

Another point. about rsoultin prior post I wanted to throw out as an FYI.
ykl isn't a newb. Whilst new to this forum, ykl has expressed experience with the game in other formats.
Not really sure why rsoultin was trying to push this out. scum is scum whether newbie or not.

Post 14 / 15
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 07:19 GMT
#303
On March 20 2018 16:16 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 16:00 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn,

Work with me on ykl please.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=ykl

On one hand, I find ykl to be calm, open and displaying a bona fide motivation to contribute.
On the other hand, I find the content to be very reactive, and in some ways, forced.

I can see this coming from town or scum - what are you current thoughts?

+ Show Spoiler [ykl thoughts] +

#232 still feels to me like TMI
- DF may be annoying a few people, but ykl is the only that states he is muddying up waters.
- The Convo/Ex0 read I still find an odd position to hold; as forum/IRL games both have players capable of "getting the ball rolling" as scum. My only pause is that many players do treat this as a heuristic - So it is not necessarily a false claim to state.

#260 alludes to the heuristic being based on experience. So I could drop that convo/Ex0 read as a scum tell in isolation.

#269 is an odd interpretation of events and the addition of "misguided" requires ykl to assume I think n00bking is scum.
This is against what ykl has communicated as a read, which I believe, should trigger a query to me.

#279 can be interpreted as mimicking thread sentiment at worst, or a change of opinion with new knowledge at best.
Suddenly, moosy/NK are considered scummy. Interestingly enough, should this not also result in an adjustment to Ex0 and Conversion who have now called out scummy people?

#286 now inserts OMGUS as a reason to consider NK. Perhaps was already tending towards this outcome in #269.


post 12 / 15

(Sorry, small aside, what's an OMGUS?)
This is too cute I had to burn a post. But not adding this to the tally.

OMGUS = Oh My God You Suck.

Basically, Player A votes Player B.

Player B goes.. ohh my god.. Player A is totally scum because how could anyone think I am scum.

Player B then votes Player A - hence OMGUS.

perhaps rsoultin was right and you are a newbie. Or you two successfully gamed me in the scumQT.

btw, QT = quicktopic LOLLOLOLOLOL
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 11:19 GMT
#405
On March 20 2018 17:04 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 16:19 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 16:16 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 16:00 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn,

Work with me on ykl please.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=ykl

On one hand, I find ykl to be calm, open and displaying a bona fide motivation to contribute.
On the other hand, I find the content to be very reactive, and in some ways, forced.

I can see this coming from town or scum - what are you current thoughts?

+ Show Spoiler [ykl thoughts] +

#232 still feels to me like TMI
- DF may be annoying a few people, but ykl is the only that states he is muddying up waters.
- The Convo/Ex0 read I still find an odd position to hold; as forum/IRL games both have players capable of "getting the ball rolling" as scum. My only pause is that many players do treat this as a heuristic - So it is not necessarily a false claim to state.

#260 alludes to the heuristic being based on experience. So I could drop that convo/Ex0 read as a scum tell in isolation.

#269 is an odd interpretation of events and the addition of "misguided" requires ykl to assume I think n00bking is scum.
This is against what ykl has communicated as a read, which I believe, should trigger a query to me.

#279 can be interpreted as mimicking thread sentiment at worst, or a change of opinion with new knowledge at best.
Suddenly, moosy/NK are considered scummy. Interestingly enough, should this not also result in an adjustment to Ex0 and Conversion who have now called out scummy people?

#286 now inserts OMGUS as a reason to consider NK. Perhaps was already tending towards this outcome in #269.


post 12 / 15

(Sorry, small aside, what's an OMGUS?)
This is too cute I had to burn a post. But not adding this to the tally.

OMGUS = Oh My God You Suck.

Basically, Player A votes Player B.

Player B goes.. ohh my god.. Player A is totally scum because how could anyone think I am scum.

Player B then votes Player A - hence OMGUS.

perhaps rsoultin was right and you are a newbie. Or you two successfully gamed me in the scumQT.

btw, QT = quicktopic LOLLOLOLOLOL

Sorry to burn your post quota like that but that actually did fly over my head.

Now to actually add to the conversation, I'm slightly more interested in the post where you scumread Ticktock, I'm not really seeing where you're drawing the conclusion that he is one from, care to help elaborate? I know you unvoted but it would still help if you can provide the reasoning behind what prompted you to do so in the first place.
timings of posts initially pinged me hrnce the vote.
Thrn i went through the database for tictock and thought the play lined up with town albeit 2yr old references. Unvoted as did not think it was worth consuming further filter on.



Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 11:38 GMT
#410
What is the issue with saying not blue?

I agree its weird but thjs doesnt default to mafia?

A proficient blue hunter will not scum slip or freduian slip like this; thus not exo

I read it as hf is lazy for his auto read so cant be blue as theg should be more invested.


Why is exo likely scum?
I read a couple old town games and in one he was similar to slam and posting videos constantly. My baseline isnt that high to start with...???
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