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ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 16 2018 05:53 GMT
#31
Uhm, do you take newbies in non-newbie games? Cause

/in

if so. Otherwise, I'd like to obs.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 16 2018 07:24 GMT
#35
On March 16 2018 15:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2018 14:53 ykl wrote:
Uhm, do you take newbies in non-newbie games? Cause

/in

if so. Otherwise, I'd like to obs.

Yeah I imagine, the condition TL Mafia is in? They’ll let you in.

If not feel free to shadow me.

I'll keep that in mind, thanks.

On March 16 2018 15:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2018 14:53 ykl wrote:
Uhm, do you take newbies in non-newbie games? Cause

/in

if so. Otherwise, I'd like to obs.


Did you submit an application and psych eval to blazinghand?

Oh my, was that necessary. Would you be so kind as to direct me to the application form. My psych evaluation might take a while to materialize though, need to fake the psychiatrist cert find a psychiatrist to do the evaluation.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 16 2018 16:13 GMT
#64
/confirm
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ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 01:21 GMT
#216
Hello everybody. Looks like I was slightly late to the starting party, people already vote this early huh.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 01:24 GMT
#217
Mind explaining the quick switch over, Koshi? I might be misunderstanding a meta read of some sort but disinformation's statement seems quite plain.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 01:54 GMT
#232
On March 20 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:
Hi ykl.

I hope you are prepared for how quickly this game is likely to pick up.

People usually throw out votes super early around here to kinda get the ball rolling, though it is up to you to determine how serious these votes are.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hint: Koshi's votes are not likely to be very serious


It sounds like you might be familiar with Forum Mafia, do you play on another site?

Eh, its fine. The filter just isolates posters right? pretty useful feature, the rest of the site could use it.
I've never played forum-based before, just other versions of Mafia.

Anyway, so that this isn't just a pointless spam post. I don't think I like the weird posting style darthfoley is using, seems like a deliberate attempt to muddy up waters for no good reason.

I don't like the early call out from Conversion or ExO-, both are very weak reads based off almost no data. I don't think either are scum but I think you'd be chasing down the wrong path.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 02:01 GMT
#238
On March 20 2018 10:58 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 10:54 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:
Hi ykl.

I hope you are prepared for how quickly this game is likely to pick up.

People usually throw out votes super early around here to kinda get the ball rolling, though it is up to you to determine how serious these votes are.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hint: Koshi's votes are not likely to be very serious


It sounds like you might be familiar with Forum Mafia, do you play on another site?

Eh, its fine. The filter just isolates posters right? pretty useful feature, the rest of the site could use it.
I've never played forum-based before, just other versions of Mafia.

Anyway, so that this isn't just a pointless spam post. I don't think I like the weird posting style darthfoley is using, seems like a deliberate attempt to muddy up waters for no good reason.

I don't like the early call out from Conversion or ExO-, both are very weak reads based off almost no data. I don't think either are scum but I think you'd be chasing down the wrong path.
PING.

What gives this impression other than TMI.

Post 9 / 12

I don't think either are acting scummy by trying to get the ball rolling but they're doing so with really shitty reasons?
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 02:23 GMT
#260
On March 20 2018 11:07 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:01 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:58 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:54 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:
Hi ykl.

I hope you are prepared for how quickly this game is likely to pick up.

People usually throw out votes super early around here to kinda get the ball rolling, though it is up to you to determine how serious these votes are.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hint: Koshi's votes are not likely to be very serious


It sounds like you might be familiar with Forum Mafia, do you play on another site?

Eh, its fine. The filter just isolates posters right? pretty useful feature, the rest of the site could use it.
I've never played forum-based before, just other versions of Mafia.

Anyway, so that this isn't just a pointless spam post. I don't think I like the weird posting style darthfoley is using, seems like a deliberate attempt to muddy up waters for no good reason.

I don't like the early call out from Conversion or ExO-, both are very weak reads based off almost no data. I don't think either are scum but I think you'd be chasing down the wrong path.
PING.

What gives this impression other than TMI.

Post 9 / 12

I don't think either are acting scummy by trying to get the ball rolling but they're doing so with really shitty reasons?

Pffffffffffft no sson. Trying to get the ball rolling is a great way to hide- by rowing the boat and singing “Holhiro, Duwiiduwiidii...” all the way to Naziland and scum victory. Scum can be passive and active, and frankly had Mocsta not pointed out your stance there I’d be going after Conversion atm.

That's a pretty fair point and I guess I'm more used to passive scum. It seems horrifically weird that you want to go out that early to accuse someone when you're scum and draw attention. IDK, I usually read that as "good but dumb".

Also, I don't mind if you want to put suspicion on me, my posts haven't been great and I'm trying to work out how this goes. Just make sure to read other people too.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 02:25 GMT
#261
On March 20 2018 11:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:21 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:05 Vivax wrote:
And you still didn't explain why what you said makes moosy mafia.

Cause it doesn't and you also have no clue how you got to say that.


Again, if he knows the setup, posting asking to explain it is scummy to me.

Do you have any reads on anybody else? Or anything else? or are you just gonna yolo tunnel me as your one contribution?

See this is more valid.

Let us lynch ykl I Vote this now

Hmm, you want to vote for me but you can't check the voting thread to see if Moosy actually voted for himself there? This seems quite weird.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 02:31 GMT
#266
On March 20 2018 11:27 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:25 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:22 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:21 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:05 Vivax wrote:
And you still didn't explain why what you said makes moosy mafia.

Cause it doesn't and you also have no clue how you got to say that.


Again, if he knows the setup, posting asking to explain it is scummy to me.

Do you have any reads on anybody else? Or anything else? or are you just gonna yolo tunnel me as your one contribution?

See this is more valid.

Let us lynch ykl I Vote this now

Hmm, you want to vote for me but you can't check the voting thread to see if Moosy actually voted for himself there? This seems quite weird.

HMM YOU FUCKING SHITS CAN SHIT ON ME FOR NOT LOOKING AT THE VOTE THREAD BUT YOU CANT READ MY OWN VOTE WHEN I was motivated enough to migrate

Holy shit if you all are this pedantic and paranoid no wonder you scumread Noobking, runoff fear from last game holy shit.

Eh, horrible timing. Also you seem to be able to spam a lot of youtube videos for someone that struggles to even open up 2 threads on the forums on your phone. Guess its a lot easier to juggle two apps on mobile eh?
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 02:32 GMT
#269
Also, the whole reason Mocsta even called me out to begin with was that I thought Conversion's early call on n00bking was misguided.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 02:41 GMT
#274
On March 20 2018 11:35 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:32 ykl wrote:
Also, the whole reason Mocsta even called me out to begin with was that I thought Conversion's early call on n00bking was misguided.

Like I said, I’m the biggest hypocrite here 😉

Makes it quite hard to have a logical flow if there's 4 or 5 post in between my every reply to you, sorry. Call out was not really fair to you. I didn't actually notice the vote thread updating then.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 03:16 GMT
#279
On March 20 2018 12:01 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:32 ykl wrote:
Also, the whole reason Mocsta even called me out to begin with was that I thought Conversion's early call on n00bking was misguided.
Hi ykl,
Above is a gross simplification.

Refering to #232
TMI related to you expressing that: Ex0, Conversion, Moosey & n00bking are all "chasing down the wrong path".

This does not only infer they are all not scum. But that they are also all town - enough that further info is not needed.

Your explanation since does not address the Moosey/n00bking element either.

Post 10 / 14






Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out?

I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable.

n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 04:20 GMT
#286
On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.

Nervous about something?

Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?

I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 07:16 GMT
#302
On March 20 2018 16:00 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn,

Work with me on ykl please.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=ykl

On one hand, I find ykl to be calm, open and displaying a bona fide motivation to contribute.
On the other hand, I find the content to be very reactive, and in some ways, forced.

I can see this coming from town or scum - what are you current thoughts?

+ Show Spoiler [ykl thoughts] +

#232 still feels to me like TMI
- DF may be annoying a few people, but ykl is the only that states he is muddying up waters.
- The Convo/Ex0 read I still find an odd position to hold; as forum/IRL games both have players capable of "getting the ball rolling" as scum. My only pause is that many players do treat this as a heuristic - So it is not necessarily a false claim to state.

#260 alludes to the heuristic being based on experience. So I could drop that convo/Ex0 read as a scum tell in isolation.

#269 is an odd interpretation of events and the addition of "misguided" requires ykl to assume I think n00bking is scum.
This is against what ykl has communicated as a read, which I believe, should trigger a query to me.

#279 can be interpreted as mimicking thread sentiment at worst, or a change of opinion with new knowledge at best.
Suddenly, moosy/NK are considered scummy. Interestingly enough, should this not also result in an adjustment to Ex0 and Conversion who have now called out scummy people?

#286 now inserts OMGUS as a reason to consider NK. Perhaps was already tending towards this outcome in #269.


post 12 / 15

(Sorry, small aside, what's an OMGUS?)
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 20 2018 08:04 GMT
#320
On March 20 2018 16:19 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 16:16 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 16:00 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn,

Work with me on ykl please.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=ykl

On one hand, I find ykl to be calm, open and displaying a bona fide motivation to contribute.
On the other hand, I find the content to be very reactive, and in some ways, forced.

I can see this coming from town or scum - what are you current thoughts?

+ Show Spoiler [ykl thoughts] +

#232 still feels to me like TMI
- DF may be annoying a few people, but ykl is the only that states he is muddying up waters.
- The Convo/Ex0 read I still find an odd position to hold; as forum/IRL games both have players capable of "getting the ball rolling" as scum. My only pause is that many players do treat this as a heuristic - So it is not necessarily a false claim to state.

#260 alludes to the heuristic being based on experience. So I could drop that convo/Ex0 read as a scum tell in isolation.

#269 is an odd interpretation of events and the addition of "misguided" requires ykl to assume I think n00bking is scum.
This is against what ykl has communicated as a read, which I believe, should trigger a query to me.

#279 can be interpreted as mimicking thread sentiment at worst, or a change of opinion with new knowledge at best.
Suddenly, moosy/NK are considered scummy. Interestingly enough, should this not also result in an adjustment to Ex0 and Conversion who have now called out scummy people?

#286 now inserts OMGUS as a reason to consider NK. Perhaps was already tending towards this outcome in #269.


post 12 / 15

(Sorry, small aside, what's an OMGUS?)
This is too cute I had to burn a post. But not adding this to the tally.

OMGUS = Oh My God You Suck.

Basically, Player A votes Player B.

Player B goes.. ohh my god.. Player A is totally scum because how could anyone think I am scum.

Player B then votes Player A - hence OMGUS.

perhaps rsoultin was right and you are a newbie. Or you two successfully gamed me in the scumQT.

btw, QT = quicktopic LOLLOLOLOLOL

Sorry to burn your post quota like that but that actually did fly over my head.

Now to actually add to the conversation, I'm slightly more interested in the post where you scumread Ticktock, I'm not really seeing where you're drawing the conclusion that he is one from, care to help elaborate? I know you unvoted but it would still help if you can provide the reasoning behind what prompted you to do so in the first place.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 21 2018 07:46 GMT
#784
And ok, I'm back.

Sorry, I tend to check LD from work but got stuck in an extended meeting earlier. I'll get caught up ASAP.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 21 2018 07:54 GMT
#787
On March 21 2018 12:09 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 11:45 Mocsta wrote:
please illuminate for me what pressure ykl and disfo received that was prompted by you

lol, nearly ALL of the pressure ykl received was prompted by me. It is not my fault that he was protected by two other players, and then LEFT. The game structure only allows for me to generate so much pressure on another player, you know? I've done what I can, and it's a lot more than the many players who are neither driving discussion nor commenting on discussion nor even VOTING.
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 11:45 Mocsta wrote:
ps. 5 players of 20 18 are now voting you.
europe is going to wake up soon, so expect that # to increase.

Oh, I do NOT expect that number to increase. Not if those players are competent. I am always a terrible early lynch candidate, which is why I've only been lynched Day 1 ONE time. Ever. And no, I wasn't scum. And no, the town did not manage to win without me.

Uhm, quick reply to this since I was picking through your filter. Err, no? The only legit pressure I got was from Mocsta much earlier. You did a single line of "more votes on ykl will be nice" into a dismissive statement when I asked something. Granted, I wasn't really around to follow up on this after, which was my bad so it didn't pan out completely. But how is someone supposed to answer this:

On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.

Nervous about something?

Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?

"Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so.
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.

"Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?"


Without immediately devolving into a shitflinging fest that contributes nothing?
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 21 2018 08:09 GMT
#792
Actually, for all of how much I dislike the tone he takes in a lot of them, I don't really think n00bking is acting very scummy? I'm not sure if I missed anything from the context of the posts.
There is no need to be mad.
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
March 21 2018 08:34 GMT
#802
Ugh, why is there so many posts.

Only skimming through Mocsta's and that's a vig claim huh. Not sure how to process that but I can't see this as anything other than a bad move if true.
Need a quick break, I'm gonna come back later and read the other stuff.
There is no need to be mad.
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