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On March 06 2018 15:55 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 15:30 Tubesock wrote:On March 06 2018 15:18 n00bKing wrote:On March 06 2018 14:42 Tubesock wrote:On March 06 2018 12:51 n00bKing wrote:On March 06 2018 11:28 Tubesock wrote:On March 06 2018 11:09 n00bKing wrote:On March 06 2018 09:16 Tubesock wrote:On March 06 2018 09:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
Honestly hf claiming a role doesn't mean anything he fakes as town or mafia agreed, I think he would claim just as easily as town medic as he would mafia. What are you "agreeing" with? Because what Fecalfeast said and what you said are NOT the same. I agree that HF can fakeclaim as either alignment, that I don't believe that him claiming should be alignment indicative in any way. Alright, thanks for making that clear. Because obviously there's a ton of difference between Fecalfeast saying "he fakes as town or mafia" and you saying "he would claim just as easily as town medic as he would mafia." I must be obtuse. I don't get why it's all that different in the context "is HolyFlare town for claiming" between "he fakes as town or mafia" or "he would claim just as easily as town medic as he would mafia"? Although, I meant to add "mafia medic" in there. What obvious difference do you see? The obvious difference is that Fecalfeast said HF makes fake claims as both Town and Mafia, while you said that HF could just as easily make the claim as Town medic or Mafia. If he makes the claim as Town medic, it's not FAKE. So what you did is take something Fecalfeast said, twisted it into something he DIDN'T say, and then "agreed" with it. That's why I forced you into telling us whether or not you agree with what he ACTUALLY said, and not just what you ACTED like he said. You told me you do agree with what he actually said, so I thanked you for your answer. I didn't twist anything. They're two separate statements. That's the point! They're two separate statements! So when he says what he said, and you quote it and say "agreed," followed by what you said, that's like someone saying "Tuesday is the best day of the week" and a 2nd person quoting it and responding with "Agreed, today is Tuesday." Those aren't the same thing. Are they agreeing with the 1st statement and also adding a 2nd statement? Did they misunderstand the 1st statement? Are they misrepresenting the 1st statement to mean something it didn't? (this one is what it looks like to me at first glance). So I made you take a stance on whether you agreed with his original statement. That removes the option for you to later say you "just misunderstood." That would be HUGELY important if HF were to later flip Red, because it would offer tons of context on whether you were trying to protect him. You've clarified that you agree with the original statement, were also adding a 2nd statement, so I have my answer, and we can move on. Make sense?
If I recall correctly this is exactly how the old n00bKing I knew of old was like. Always fussing with fine details I would just gloss over
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On March 06 2018 15:57 rsoultin wrote:Hi moosy! Kinda bored with the setup talk. Ian (Damdred) is giving me scum vibes. Anyone you want to talk about?
whaaaaaaaa
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I thought Damdred was pretty town so far what makes you think he's scum?
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AYO cilax is the setup 3 medic/town vs mafia?
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On March 06 2018 16:04 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 16:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I thought Damdred was pretty town so far what makes you think he's scum? My impression of his game so far can be boiled down to two sentences: Hey guys how should we play the setup that doesn't matter for another 48 hours! Hey guys do you have any thoughts? The first is fine if he were trying to get reads, but given the lack of reads he apparently got from it hes coming across to me as existing rather than solving.
Huh. See this just shows how differently people approach the game than me. I thought he was towny because of this post.
On March 06 2018 08:51 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
I will always be healing my biggest scum read and I shall make it known. Good man, I know it won't be me (but it was)
idk I'm not good at this game tho
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On March 06 2018 16:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 16:32 n00bKing wrote:On March 06 2018 16:11 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 16:05 n00bKing wrote:On March 06 2018 14:45 Tubesock wrote:
Do you think he's right? Should we not talk about mass claiming D2? Is there a difference of talking about mass claiming and the timing of it? Does anyone actually think the medics shouldn't EVER mass claim? So, obviously if you are going to discuss strategy you will be talking about the timing. I didn't like him saying "talking about D2 claim is a distraction" and then he goes back to talking about mass claiming. It's scummy to try to shut down discussion especially when nothing else is going on.
Talking about D2 mass claim is a distraction, when we're not in D2. Again, we'll have more information on whether a D2 mass claim would be beneficial once we're actually IN D2. If we tried to make a decision about it now, something could happen before then that changes the equation. Talking about whether to mass claim on D2 during D1 prevents scumhunting by letting the thread be clogged up with a decision that can't be acted on yet, based on variables that could be completely different by the time it CAN be acted on. It also needlessly lengthens the thread, making it tougher to re-read later. And then I went back to talking about mass claiming. YUP. Because the decision to make on Day ONE is whether or not we should have a mass claim on Day ONE. THIS is what we should be talking about. But first, I'd sure like verification from the Narrator on whether the setup is the one posted in the OP, or the one he said he'd be changing it to, because that also changes the equation. I'd say no, thus, bored. Let's talk reads! By all means, talk reads. But do you have anything to add to why your attitude toward the Day 1 mass claim is "no"? I think a "yes" or "no" becomes a lot more valuable when someone explains their reasoning behind it. I just feel it's less valuable to have claims out with a mafia medic and rb in the game. Rb one medic. Double up on the one with the bad scum read. Kill the third. Medics neutralized. Once one is dead no more town but shots. Once two no more town saves. And if we have town fake-claiming that also defeats the purpose of a mass claim day 1. I see the counter-argument okay but really I think it makes more sense to delay the discussion at least a day phase.
hmmmmmm
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On March 06 2018 16:34 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 16:30 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2018 16:27 Tubesock wrote:On March 06 2018 08:47 Holyflare wrote:
I'm a medic. Uhm...you called you a medic.... Yes and as noobking says someone said I can do that as either alignment or any role but you have specifically said I'm a medic. There's a big difference from saying what I said means nothing to saying what I said means I am medic but either alignment. It appears like you know I'm medic but then add a hedge on top as a "oh I don't know" to fit in. It's a weird thought process comparatively to hf can be anything. lol ok. In this instance I think you are capable of making a medic claim in any situation. Fake, real, mafia, or town and any combination. I also think that it's probably true but I don't have any idea if it's town medic or mafia medic. You can certainly lynch me for that if you want to, but seems silly to me.
Wait so are you saying you think he's medic or he's not? This post is really confusing
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On March 06 2018 18:14 rsoultin wrote:
I think I'm liking a moosy this game, too \o/ Nothing strong, though. Bastard has to live in the wrong timezone.
whaaaaaaaa
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PSA: We got filters in the first page now feelsgoodman
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tfw when I'm lowkey already breaking rules my first game of mafia in a long time :D
+ Show Spoiler +On March 06 2018 18:23 Calix wrote:
If anyone has any further queries then please PM me instead of asking questions in the thread. On March 06 2018 16:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
AYO cilax is the setup 3 medic/town vs mafia?
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On March 06 2018 18:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 18:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 06 2018 18:14 rsoultin wrote:
I think I'm liking a moosy this game, too \o/ Nothing strong, though. Bastard has to live in the wrong timezone. whaaaaaaaa o.0 Aw now not as much cause you're not asleep lol ><
lol you're not wrong. It is 4-5 AM here. I just couldn't resist throwing a wrench in your thoughts :D
btw how likely do you think Tubesock is mafia here compared to Damdred?
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 06 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 18:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 06 2018 18:37 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 18:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 06 2018 18:14 rsoultin wrote:
I think I'm liking a moosy this game, too \o/ Nothing strong, though. Bastard has to live in the wrong timezone. whaaaaaaaa o.0 Aw now not as much cause you're not asleep lol >< lol you're not wrong. It is 4-5 AM here. I just couldn't resist throwing a wrench in your thoughts :D btw how likely do you think Tubesock is mafia here compared to Damdred? I'm pretty soldily null on Tubesock, but so far I like pretty much everyone calling him scum. Just not really agreeing with the reasoning, especially the medic point. As for Damdred...it's not a super solid scumread. I think there's a small possibility he might post this way as town. Speaking of slight scumreads, df would also be a good lynch today. On March 06 2018 18:53 rsoultin wrote:
Like, basically I can see tubesock being scum here. I just think it would be a shame to auto him for nonsense (especially if he ends up flipping town), even if I think mostly town is pushing him.
Plus I'll get way better reads if we talk about more than just tubesock. So there's that.
Hm, fair enough
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On March 06 2018 18:55 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 18:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 06 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 18:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 06 2018 18:37 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 18:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 06 2018 18:14 rsoultin wrote:
I think I'm liking a moosy this game, too \o/ Nothing strong, though. Bastard has to live in the wrong timezone. whaaaaaaaa o.0 Aw now not as much cause you're not asleep lol >< lol you're not wrong. It is 4-5 AM here. I just couldn't resist throwing a wrench in your thoughts :D btw how likely do you think Tubesock is mafia here compared to Damdred? I'm pretty soldily null on Tubesock, but so far I like pretty much everyone calling him scum. Just not really agreeing with the reasoning, especially the medic point. As for Damdred...it's not a super solid scumread. I think there's a small possibility he might post this way as town. Speaking of slight scumreads, df would also be a good lynch today. On March 06 2018 18:53 rsoultin wrote:
Like, basically I can see tubesock being scum here. I just think it would be a shame to auto him for nonsense (especially if he ends up flipping town), even if I think mostly town is pushing him.
Plus I'll get way better reads if we talk about more than just tubesock. So there's that. Hm, fair enough You're not fulfilling your part of the conversational contract -flicks-
I absolutely detest your scum read on Damdred which makes me think you're scum but at the same time your thought process on Tubesock is the exact same as mine which makes me conflicted. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Also 4-5 people have not participated, 2 of whom just disappeared from existence after entrance posts. I want to see how they fall on the Tubesock train first.
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Honestly though this game is kind of weird for me because normally in my Mafia games, it's people lining up on the Moosy wagon D1 and/or putting a lot of pressure on me and neither of those things have happened so far.
So I'm in this weird position where on my return to TL Mafia I kind of want to troll a little less and be a little more serious but I often tend to decide on the flip of a coin whether to respond seriously to pressure or go into super troll mode with a large tendency to resort to trolling...but since there's really no pressure I can't really troll a lot or actually tryhard. So my filter's just kind of growing omegalul.
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Meh whatever, sorry for filler. I just like to muse and shitpost endlessly while procrastinating on real work, aka this essay I'm stalling right now.
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Hm....Damdred are you sure rsoultin is town? So far my lowkey town group is you and noobking and while the three of us have been on the same page in terms of reads I find it disturbing rsoultin is seemingly on another planet. Especially since I normally find her thought process similar to mine in games.
First the weirdest push on you
+ Show Spoiler +On March 06 2018 15:57 rsoultin wrote:Hi moosy! Kinda bored with the setup talk. Ian (Damdred) is giving me scum vibes. Anyone you want to talk about?
Then she scumreads darthfoley for something that I also think is really weak.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 07 2018 03:36 rsoultin wrote:
There's just something really off about DF's entry. He's in the thread while people are talking about things, and tubesock had already made his (bad?) post (though no one had called him out for it yet), and he just...isn't in the mood?
It makes me think he didn't like his role pm. Especially since he seemed to feel the need to respond to moosey and to make his excuses. Idk.
It's a pretty weak read, though. I mean there's always the possibility he has something to be down about irl...just find it odd when it's coupled with a need to post in thread. In his place, if I wasn't in the mood to play the game due to external factors, I probably just wouldn't bother until later. It's not like he was being pressured or anything to significantly change his willingness to play between his entry and that post.
Her stance on Tubesock is NAI because it could easily be scum putting a foot in the wagon although it's the one time her thoughts lined up with mine so maybe town.
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On March 07 2018 05:29 rsoultin wrote:You're not anything to me  That's where this game is at right now. @Moosy Where do my reads not line up with yours, out of curiosity? Other than on myself, lol ><
It's not even necessarily reads because you keep changing your reads. Whenever someone applies the slightest bit of pressure on you or they say they agree with you, you immediately start granting them cookies.
Look at how she flips her read on darthfoley super fast for no reason.
First she scumreads him for obviously weak reasons
On March 07 2018 03:36 rsoultin wrote:
There's just something really off about DF's entry. He's in the thread while people are talking about things, and tubesock had already made his (bad?) post (though no one had called him out for it yet), and he just...isn't in the mood?
It makes me think he didn't like his role pm. Especially since he seemed to feel the need to respond to moosey and to make his excuses. Idk.
It's a pretty weak read, though. I mean there's always the possibility he has something to be down about irl...just find it odd when it's coupled with a need to post in thread. In his place, if I wasn't in the mood to play the game due to external factors, I probably just wouldn't bother until later. It's not like he was being pressured or anything to significantly change his willingness to play between his entry and that post.
Then darthfoley questions rsoultin a little bit which she responds to:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 07 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:On March 06 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/
I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.
Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.
I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.
I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny. Fair. Damdred lynching time then? Though I must say amg is one of the smexiest players in this game to me. It makes it harder for me to accept people not having an opinion in him. Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG? Pardon? On March 07 2018 05:16 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:On March 06 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/
I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.
Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.
I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.
I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny. Fair. Damdred lynching time then? Though I must say amg is one of the smexiest players in this game to me. It makes it harder for me to accept people not having an opinion in him. Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG? Pardon? Oh, I guess awarding him a cookie when I first came in thread and calling him the smexiest wasn't as obvious as I should be. AMG was and remains my top townread, with the only caveat being I've never played with him before that I recall. Just so you're aware, cookie = townread. Thus I am also now townreading Damdy.
Then she points out this in darthfoley's post
On March 07 2018 05:19 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 05:12 darthfoley wrote:
Okay i've caught up.
AMG and n00b are pretty townie ATM. I think Damdred is kinda townie right now actually, for once. Maybe rsoultin too, because I agree with her about Tubesock. He might be mafia, but not for the reasons HF is pushing. The medic thing is really NAI even if it's "strange"
Lynch pool of prplhz, FF and Tubesock for the time being. I really didn't like how FF announced his first read, then felt the need to explain why he's scumreading prplhz in the next post. I think you either 1) do both in one post or 2) announce your scum read, then explain it if asked. Just felt a tad like he's trying to make sure everyone knows he has reasoning behind his scumread, if that makes sense. We did ask him, though?
But then goes right to townreading him?
On March 07 2018 05:25 rsoultin wrote:
DF has also almost earned a cookie!
I like where you prodded on me, and our reads are lining up, too.
So either this game will be fairly easy or I'm townreading someone too easily. Which is always possible.
lynchpool: tube, ff, afkers ftw
Still not feeling a prp lynch though he'd prob be next in line afterwards. Followed by hf. Or maybe hf first. Either way I don't really have a problem with either and see reasons to think they could be town.
It doesn't feel like rsoultin's trying to actively hunt scum. Every time she does and someone puts pressure on her or points out how weak her scum reads are she vacillates immediately and goes back to the same low activity/afk lynch pool.
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@rsoultin, would you rather lynch tube or anyone in your afk/low activity pool? Who would your first pick be and who would your second pick be?
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If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her.
Most of this is feel based. Normally when I read rsoultin posts I'm thinking they're good points and agreeing with them because they line up with my thought process. But in this game it's like, again, she's on a completely different planet. Something I noticed really early on.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 06 2018 16:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 16:04 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 16:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I thought Damdred was pretty town so far what makes you think he's scum? My impression of his game so far can be boiled down to two sentences: Hey guys how should we play the setup that doesn't matter for another 48 hours! Hey guys do you have any thoughts? The first is fine if he were trying to get reads, but given the lack of reads he apparently got from it hes coming across to me as existing rather than solving. Huh. See this just shows how differently people approach the game than me. I thought he was towny because of this post. Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 08:51 Damdred wrote:On March 06 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
I will always be healing my biggest scum read and I shall make it known. Good man, I know it won't be me (but it was) idk I'm not good at this game tho
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