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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 19:52 GMT
#1966
What? If I'm mafia I would absolutely just keep arguing with noobking for the entirety of the game. Never ever stopping. Nobody ever wants to lynch into the medic claims so I'm stuck lynching between a 50/50 mafia slot. If you're not mafia and I am most definitely not mafia then it's simply between moosy and rsoultin.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 19:54 GMT
#1968
Only affects muricans since the host is Euro.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 19:57 GMT
#1973
On March 14 2018 04:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2018 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
On March 09 2018 17:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Goddamn it sorry. I’m still here.

Look at Noobking’s early filter, I was suspicious of this. Today was nasty in LA, traffic was insane but I’m in Coachella now. Couple days off. Should be posting mad stuffs sometime tomorrow...


On March 09 2018 17:30 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 06 2018 08:51 n00bKing wrote:
On March 06 2018 08:38 Damdred wrote:
On March 06 2018 08:37 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 06 2018 08:34 Damdred wrote:
Welcome town Fecalfeast, and maybe so moosydoosy. But do you think we should have a secondary vote and force the medics to act as a vig shot every night for our second kill?

3 medics though are we doing a vote to have all 3 medics on 1 target, wasting our chance at a save to render mafia medic useless?

I suppose but what happens if we don't control them d1 and two overlap on a super towny person?

Yeah, if you're coordinating a medic kill on any given night, I think all the medics have to use the same target. This not only renders the Mafia medic useless, but it also renders the Mafia roleblocker useless. They basically just have 3 vanilla bad guys.

Coordinating things so that 2 medics kill a guy and one tries to prevent the mafia kill not only opens you up to disruption by the roleblocker, but I also don't see a way to get the medics on the same page (about which 2 are killing a guy and which 1 is trying to make a save) without telling the Mafia who they are. So you can't do anything but "all 3 on the same target" unless you execute a mass claim. Having never played under this set of rules (or one like it) I don't know if the mass claim is good or bad. I'll have to read the pre-game discussion again.

One thing I DO remember from pre-game discussion is the idea that this ruleset favors us pretty heavily, and that the Mafia will have to play extremely well to win. Is there a "far and away" best Scum player that we can lynch, to make sure that won't happen? :D

Goddamn I can’t remember why but this post

This had me certain he was scum before I replaced in and now for the life of me I can’t do it.

Melatonin should kick in soon.


On March 09 2018 17:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Anyway, I had thoughts of a noobking/HF scumteam early.

But it’s just not coming to me now.

Which fit’s noobking scum story on me HOLY SHIT THAT WAS WHY

HE LOOKS FOR THE INACTIVE OR EASY LYNCH RIGHT FROM THE START

read it folks textbook scum

He found it on Tubesock but as HF pointed out holy shit that’s right that’s why HF looks so good to me by now ABYWAY as Hf pointed out he suddenly unvotes and switches last min.

See this uncanny thing scum do, they switch last minute and won’t stack on someone

Who got shot? I need to read night posted

On March 10 2018 03:29 Alakaslam wrote:
I was very tired last night but I am here

I will start reading again.

HF Noobking scumteam was my original read, HF redeemed himself quite handily IMO but I hadn’t seen the like from Noobking yet. I hope to be caught up soon.

Noobking was very much caught by HF in my opinion by about page 22. But 1. This was a long time ago now 2. Y’all lynched Tubesock. There must be something I’m not seeing so I’ll be back

On March 10 2018 07:29 Alakaslam wrote:
##Vote: n00bking

I seriously can’t find another scum. This makes me fear a Svengali HF, however

PURPLE HAZE, HE’s GOT ME DOWN

PURPLE HAZE, HE WASNT TOWN

PURPLE HAZE, JUST FILLS MY MIND

PURPLE HAZE, LEFT ME BEHIND


On March 11 2018 02:31 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 11 2018 02:13 Calix wrote:
Day 2 Vote Count

KelsierSC (6): Fecalfeast (x), Fecalfeast, n00bking, Vivax, rsoultin, Koshi, darthfoley
n00bKing (2): Fecalfeast (x), Vivax (x), Holyflare, Alakaslam
Holyflare (0): rsoultin (x)

Not Voting (2): KelsierSC, MoosyDoosy


KelsierSC currently stands as the lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 10 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .


1. Nooo my wagon, to which I was last!
2. Why Kelsier? He like JUST replaced!

3

IM DRIVING AGAIN AND IT IS RAINING WISH ME LUCK AND PRAY FOR MY SAFETY WITHIN MY FORD FUSION TURBOCHARGED FOR MAS POWER WITH MPGNESS


You start the game scum reading noobking and give reasons. You throw me into the list for absolutely 0 reasons but then back off it. I even vote noobking with you, who you think is mafia.

Then after the Kelsier lynch you still scum read noobking.

On March 11 2018 05:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 11 2018 05:13 n00bKing wrote:
On March 10 2018 21:12 Holyflare wrote:
The things rsoul has pushed this game make me so wary of her she keeps dropping down my list:

1) Town reading prplhz on nothing
2) Pushing amg all day 1 and then dropping it
3) Pushing me today despite it not making any sense
4) Hard defending df because of some tiny town read he gave her

Only things going for her:

1) Getting people to mass claim

If getting people to mass claim is a point in her favor, then are you saying that yes, we should count your resistance as a strike against you? Koshi told everyone to "do the math" and see that the mass claim is a net positive. Should we think that failing to have done the math is randomly more forgivable for HF than for others?
On March 10 2018 21:14 Holyflare wrote:
I believe vivax and ff are the true medics. I think vivax should heal df and ff heal noob. The real medic of noob and df should heal the other one. Easy free mafia nk.

I see a few people have commented on this plan of action. Anyone else have thoughts on it?

See you always have passive voice sson not active voice

As town you wanna get shot done

As scum you wanna go with dat flow

So since you keep asking “wat everyone think of this?”

I am like “textbook scum m8”

On March 11 2018 09:48 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 11 2018 06:21 Holyflare wrote:
I would much rather have fun and lynch mafia then trying to play optimally and rely on some shit game mechanics to win. I just wanted to play a normal game tbh but he we are. So, I am just going to play mafia like I normally am and lynch people that look like mafia regardless of whether they are a claimed medic or not.

We have three medic claims and all of them were instant. Only noobking's was delayed and didn't say a single thing. At no point has he even tried to decipher which of the other three medics are mafia when that should be the medic's main priority. I had a town read on vivax and a semi town semi blue read on ff the whole time. Df could have been mafia but I don't think he ever shoots AMG there at all over rsoul/vivax/hf.

Furthermore, he is actually angry at this point int time for no discernible reason that I can think of. To top it off he had that massive df post early on d1 where it looked like it was incredibly TMI to call him town. Add to that the fact that he wanted to lynch kelsier d1 instead of people that gave good information then I have to think he's actually mafia.

Duuuude this is the stuff

This is why HF is badass


basically town read

On March 11 2018 09:59 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 11 2018 09:56 darthfoley wrote:
On March 08 2018 14:18 n00bKing wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:13 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:10 n00bKing wrote:
Ok, I'm off.

On March 08 2018 06:32 n00bKing wrote:
Does anyone agree with HF's assessment of DF's play in other games?

Didn't see any backup on this, but to my eyes, the DF lynch doesn't thrill me.

The push on Tubesock has been going for a long time, without much result, so I guess it's not happening today.

##Unvote

Would love to see this happen:

##Vote: KelsierSC

Why him over prpl?

...huh?

Because Kelsier was a no-show (in the game thread at least) and prpl wasn't. You act like one vs. the other is an equivalent choice. It's not.

If people want to make a big deal over this, I can explain further. But I would have thought that the reasons why you lynch a literal no-show (like Kelsier or chaoser) over someone who makes a few posts and then bails for the rest of the Phase (like prpl or damdred) were fairly obvious.


Rereading this, it feels very paranoid and self aware. Vivax asks him a simple question "why KSC > Prplhz" with no real agenda, and n00bking preemptively defends agaainst people making a "big deal" out of it. It's more bad when paired with his substantive post on prplhz that others have already pointed out

On March 07 2018 15:13 n00bKing wrote:
Re: What Tubesock liked about Prpl's filter
On March 07 2018 10:45 Tubesock wrote:
I like how he did it too. As mafia I don't think he would have defended me like he did. I think he would have been more firm in either the defense or attack.

So being wishy-washy is a Town trait now? There's nothing to like about Prpl's play, in my opinion. All he's done is claim Cop, be vague and non-committal about whether he thinks you should be pushed, be vague and non-committal about suspicions that AMG's reads feel forced, and talk about a SK role that we know isn't in the game. I never like it when people say something like "I'm interested in seeing where this goes though." Just means they have no plans of making it go somewhere themselves...so I think to myself....then what good are you?


For tonight, i'm fine vigi healing Slam. Idk how to read him and I don't think i'm gonna get anything serious from him

Well, fuck.

I have made the passive voice argument but meh

I am not articulate. It’s one of those things, if I will be misunderstood it might as well be intentional!

Anyway, if that vig deal goes through on me, cyall. Stay the course, I once thought it was NK HF but now I suspect only NK. HF has no need to bus at this point.


still just nk
On March 11 2018 10:10 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 11 2018 10:07 darthfoley wrote:
On March 11 2018 09:59 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 11 2018 09:56 darthfoley wrote:
On March 08 2018 14:18 n00bKing wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:13 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:10 n00bKing wrote:
Ok, I'm off.

On March 08 2018 06:32 n00bKing wrote:
Does anyone agree with HF's assessment of DF's play in other games?

Didn't see any backup on this, but to my eyes, the DF lynch doesn't thrill me.

The push on Tubesock has been going for a long time, without much result, so I guess it's not happening today.

##Unvote

Would love to see this happen:

##Vote: KelsierSC

Why him over prpl?

...huh?

Because Kelsier was a no-show (in the game thread at least) and prpl wasn't. You act like one vs. the other is an equivalent choice. It's not.

If people want to make a big deal over this, I can explain further. But I would have thought that the reasons why you lynch a literal no-show (like Kelsier or chaoser) over someone who makes a few posts and then bails for the rest of the Phase (like prpl or damdred) were fairly obvious.


Rereading this, it feels very paranoid and self aware. Vivax asks him a simple question "why KSC > Prplhz" with no real agenda, and n00bking preemptively defends agaainst people making a "big deal" out of it. It's more bad when paired with his substantive post on prplhz that others have already pointed out

On March 07 2018 15:13 n00bKing wrote:
Re: What Tubesock liked about Prpl's filter
On March 07 2018 10:45 Tubesock wrote:
I like how he did it too. As mafia I don't think he would have defended me like he did. I think he would have been more firm in either the defense or attack.

So being wishy-washy is a Town trait now? There's nothing to like about Prpl's play, in my opinion. All he's done is claim Cop, be vague and non-committal about whether he thinks you should be pushed, be vague and non-committal about suspicions that AMG's reads feel forced, and talk about a SK role that we know isn't in the game. I never like it when people say something like "I'm interested in seeing where this goes though." Just means they have no plans of making it go somewhere themselves...so I think to myself....then what good are you?


For tonight, i'm fine vigi healing Slam. Idk how to read him and I don't think i'm gonna get anything serious from him

Well, fuck.

I have made the passive voice argument but meh

I am not articulate. It’s one of those things, if I will be misunderstood it might as well be intentional!

Anyway, if that vig deal goes through on me, cyall. Stay the course, I once thought it was NK HF but now I suspect only NK. HF has no need to bus at this point.


HF nk makes no sense when he could pretty easily push credible scum reads on me or FeFe

Exactly. Hence I clear HF


I'm clear

On March 12 2018 10:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 12 2018 10:41 Holyflare wrote:
I'll be sad if nk is mafia and nobody listened.

Aayyyyyyyy lmao


still NK/town read me

On March 13 2018 00:14 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 12 2018 21:10 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 20:58 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Alternatively we do df/ff on a vt player like moosy, vivax on rsoul, nk on df.

We narrow down the vt pool that way and if a medic wants to shenanigan they confirm themselves mafia.

This enables us to narrow down vt pool and simultaneously control the mafia nk while trying to preserve our medics.




This plan involves us lynching moosy today and him being town.

I will flip vt if you sacrifice me so it's up to you whether you wanna get mafia slam early or "confirm" me mafia the next day. No difference other than you guys being shit.

If any of the medics break rank then it is absolutely obvious which one did it since if ff is mafia I won't die. If vivax is mafia and he switches he's obvious. Same with NK.

Thus we therefore control the mafia medic night kill in our favour.

If they all choose to stick with their claims and follow this plan then the following day you have df/rsoul as basically town. 4 medic claims and a confirmed mafia. Do not lynch the confirmed mafia. This is when you lynch into medic claims.

You lynch vivax for not making sense if he hasn't already conceded and if he's medic then you have two medics and two towns and a confirmed mafia and a mafia medic claim.

The next night you put two of the medics on the confirmed mafia and one of the medics on df. This way you preserve df and the medic sanctity and mafia is forced to stack on the confirmed mafia.

##Unvote
##Vote: MoosyDoosy



vote moosy with me to follow a plan

On March 13 2018 00:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 12 2018 22:36 Holyflare wrote:
I will fight forever to not get lynched then. It is my duty as VT. You can ignore it all you want but I'll be here.

Same but I believe this confirms moose.


confirms moose as mafia

On March 13 2018 00:30 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 13 2018 00:28 Vivax wrote:
Slam why do you think Noob is mafia over FF? I'm not able to pick one at this point.

Because noob is textbook scum

I don’t know how anyone else is missing it.


textbook noobking scum

On March 13 2018 00:55 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 13 2018 00:28 Vivax wrote:
Slam why do you think Noob is mafia over FF? I'm not able to pick one at this point.

Problem is FF looks like absentee scum. That has a bunch of IRL wifom.


ff textbook scum too??

On March 13 2018 10:33 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 13 2018 08:14 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone gonna say anything?

Hi m8


When do we lynch Иообking?

It will be very Хорошо 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺


still nk is mafia

On March 13 2018 14:00 Alakaslam wrote:
So

Throwing down some unexpected plays

##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare


OPPORTUNISTIC AS FUCK VOTE SINCE I'M NOW THE THREAD FLAVOUR

I made a post where I spoke of tinfoil.

When Noobking said it I knew it wasn’t just my crazy informing me.

If you’re mafia, would you rather fight me or Moosy?

HF if you stayed the course and voted NK and pushed him I’d be down. But

Went to Moosy.

Hell, like I don’t know I’m town? And I don’t see Moosy as scum, just as it was with Tubesockoshi.


I have a few questions about this actually. If you look at it from my perspective and you assume I'm town and have a town read on yourself for pushing things I've liked all game and a town read on moosy for tone and a town read on rsoultin for being shot and not really pushing scummy things which is the first one to go if one of them is definitely mafia?

Do I ditch the person I tone read town in a moment of heat at deadline and now that I look at his content he hasn't actually said anything (Moosy).

Do I ditch the town read on the person that has agreed with me on Noobking and has kind of been the only one all game (you)

Do I ditch the person that got "medic saved" and has been generally well behaved (rsoul) comparatively to normal?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 20:01 GMT
#1975
If it's not moosy then you have to go full wifom on rsoultin.

I don't really care if I'm nkd after moosy or whatever. I'll come up with a better nk strategy then these bums have been doing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 20:05 GMT
#1977
Can we get a vote count?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 20:05 GMT
#1978
Maybe I should actually read Moosy's filter? :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 20:07 GMT
#1980
Moosy and df still voting vivax? Poor show.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 20:12 GMT
#1984
It's true. That's best left for tonight's actions to find out though. Just don't heal either of them.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 20:17 GMT
#1985
Theoretically it's also possible df is mafia acting on his own to win over rsoul/town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 21:13 GMT
#1992
On March 14 2018 06:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I don't like both noobking and vivax even more. Noobking completely dropped his scum read on me once it became convenient to chase something else and vivax decided to townread me based off of meta which is completely NAI as has been already proven.


Do you know what noobking's initial scum read on you was?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 21:18 GMT
#1996
On March 14 2018 06:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2018 06:13 Holyflare wrote:
On March 14 2018 06:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I don't like both noobking and vivax even more. Noobking completely dropped his scum read on me once it became convenient to chase something else and vivax decided to townread me based off of meta which is completely NAI as has been already proven.


Do you know what noobking's initial scum read on you was?

meta and prplhz


That's half right, the other half was mass association with DF who "saved" rsoultin. So, why is it suspicious for him to drop it?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 21:25 GMT
#2000
He wrote a massive case on you that was entirely based on half meta and half the df thing so why is it suspicious that he's dropped it after he thinks df is town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 21:26 GMT
#2002
On March 14 2018 06:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Out of medics it has to be vivax or noobking. Out of vt it has to be hf/slam.

And to be honest I think slam is town here. It feels like he's trying to figure the game out while it feels like holy is just trying to cover for scum vivax's bullshit push on me during end of day.


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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 21:26 GMT
#2003
What the fuck is that bolded crap.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 21:33 GMT
#2009
What kind of fucked up open ended read is "it's either noobking and vivax and holyflare or slam" when noobking has pushed holyflare ALL GAME NON-STOP and vice versa and slam has also been all over noobking.

None of noobking+slam/hf makes sense. I don't know why people even utter those names together. Vivax/hf I can see why people would say it but today has been 0% about me trying to cover for vivax when I gut reaction voted him at the start of the day, called moosy confirmed town at the eod last time AND thought vivax was confirmed mafia before I reasoned it out.

It's such a bull shit cop out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 21:37 GMT
#2016
I would absolutely abuse the shit fighting if I was mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 21:40 GMT
#2020
On March 14 2018 06:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2018 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
What kind of fucked up open ended read is "it's either noobking and vivax and holyflare or slam" when noobking has pushed holyflare ALL GAME NON-STOP and vice versa and slam has also been all over noobking.

None of noobking+slam/hf makes sense. I don't know why people even utter those names together. Vivax/hf I can see why people would say it but today has been 0% about me trying to cover for vivax when I gut reaction voted him at the start of the day, called moosy confirmed town at the eod last time AND thought vivax was confirmed mafia before I reasoned it out.

It's such a bull shit cop out.

Show nested quote +
On March 14 2018 06:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Out of medics it has to be vivax or noobking. Out of vt it has to be hf/slam.

And to be honest I think slam is town here. It feels like he's trying to figure the game out while it feels like holy is just trying to cover for scum vivax's bullshit push on me during end of day.

Read my quote again. I feel like you're trying to make a big deal out of something I am being completely clear on.


It IS a big deal because you're trying to say I'm covering for something that I absolutely haven't covered for when I literally called it a really shit push when he did it and said it probably made him mafia. In all honesty I've liked his posts today far more and I saw a towny reaction (different post to rsoul) that I didn't hate.

I think you are mafia for this specific post because I specifically haven't done a single thing to mitigate vivax being mafia. I haven't made my thoughts known about the medic/vivax thing at all today really. This read applies to about 5 other people not posting about Vivax's push on you at deadline and yet you ONLY apply it to me because that is a way to get me to look scummy.

If you are not mafia and I am not mafia and you think Slam is not mafia then it is absolutely rsoultin so you should perhaps start living in that world.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 21:42 GMT
#2021
On March 14 2018 06:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2018 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
end of night*

Also no one has answered whether we're chasing scum reads or playing for setup. If we're playing setup I'm fine with voting for myself to clear other targets.

##Unvote
##Vote: MoosyDoosy

Like did you miss seeing this? Or are you being hyper aggressive and trying to start a fight for no reason


I am absolutely wary of people trying to throw shit my way that I have not warranted or even deserved since I've played absolutely openly the entirety of the game and yet still get scum read for <insert 0 reasons here>. The new flavour is association with Vivax despite not even being related to Vivax in any way.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 13 2018 21:45 GMT
#2025
No, I haven't played scummy as shit this phase Moosydoosy. I am lynching who I think has the highest chance to flip mafia. That's going to be the people with a 50/50 chance of being mafia.

Of course I want to lynch OTHER people than me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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March 13 2018 21:45 GMT
#2026
You cannot vote for yourself.
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