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Holyflare
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rsoultin
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On March 10 2018 21:12 Holyflare wrote: The things rsoul has pushed this game make me so wary of her she keeps dropping down my list: 1) Town reading prplhz on nothing 2) Pushing amg all day 1 and then dropping it 3) Pushing me today despite it not making any sense 4) Hard defending df because of some tiny town read he gave her Only things going for her: 1) Getting people to mass claim You may want to check your points before you post them. | ||
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rsoultin
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rsoultin
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On March 10 2018 21:14 Holyflare wrote: I believe vivax and ff are the true medics. I think vivax should heal df and ff heal noob. The real medic of noob and df should heal the other one. Easy free mafia nk. I'm not sure whether or not I like this plan. But that can be discussed during night phase. | ||
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rsoultin
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Anyway, I've decided not to engage with HF today. If he spouts more crap that other people would like me to answer to, let me know  I see no point shitfighting with him when I don't want to lynch him today, and he's not going to lynch me.-trundles off to review EoD1- | ||
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Holyflare
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Point 4 is not untrue. At every point I have pushed df you have said no, not lynching him and referenced his tone being town and that he is town because of his town read on you. I posted a case and YOU defended him from it. That is hard defending. Point 1 is definitely true. Point 3 multiple people have told you it doesn't make sense. It's also incongruent with your entire thought process. You have posted multiple times that I'm not mafia over one of the medic claims and afkers now BUT STILL TRY AND PUSH IT LIKE IT'S TRUE. It's ridiculous and amounts to setting up for the future imo because you still try and say it like it's a point while simultaneously referencing that I might not actually be mafia. You either believe it and I'm mafia or you retract it because you admit it's not a strong point. There is absolutely no in between with this. | ||
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Holyflare
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rsoultin
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At the point that DF placed his vote on prp, his wagon was building. The only person still on prp was AMG, and moosy was on tubesock. I can see why a scum DF might be inclined to bus, but given prp was the RB and we know tube was town, it's less likely to me that he's scum doing that. Oh, hf, I will talk to you about this, though. | ||
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rsoultin
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On March 10 2018 21:34 Holyflare wrote: I am also INCREDIBLY confused because at NO point have I shit fighted with you this entire cycle. You just keep posting points my way, I answer them and that's it. I haven't started anything and people (now including you) keep referencing it like I'm harassing you into shit fighting. It's crazy. I'm not saying you're harrassing me, by the way. I just don't want to lynch you anymore and don't care to be distracted by your push unless people actually want to lynch me. | ||
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rsoultin
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On March 10 2018 20:42 n00bKing wrote: So did you do that re-reading, rsoul? It looks inconclusive to me. He says that he's down for "shenannies" onto DF (which is the lynch he wants, if he's scum and DF isn't) but says that tubesock is still scummiest (which might be fine to say, even if Tubesock isn't the lynch he wants, because he's one of only 2 votes there at the time). But within just a few posts, there are suddenly two swaps TO Tubesock, and that would then make it tougher for Moosy to justify jumping to DF. Overall, I would say the voting record works slightly in Moosy's favor IF I knew for sure that DF is Town. But since I don't, I would mostly throw this evidence out. Which means the association case against him takes precedence. You seeing anything different? Eh. Yeah...I actually think his play near EoD means more if DF is scum. It looked a bit like he wasn't sure how to handle it with all the questions to HF about who he thought was more scummy between df and tube, when the vote should make that pretty obvious. I know that I have trouble with my scummates...or at least used to ignore them so was trying to fix that in my last scum game which went so amazingly well lol >< So I don't disagree with your intial premise regarding moosy ignoring prp. This is the only mention of prp that I can find from moosy all Day 1. On March 08 2018 07:47 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm down with shenannies onto prp, darth. Preferred is Tube. I still don't see how he isn't scummy. Also rsoultin if people are really down to clown.  jk probably not rsoultin looks townCould argue that he also doesn't talk about other afkers much (see: KSC, chaoser) but there are several references to FF and Damdred who had posted (but also not a lot like prp), and prp was actually a point of discussion. | ||
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Koshi
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This means we have 6 VTs versus 4 medics atm. We know there is 1 mafia within the VTs. Now we have 2 lynches and 2 medic shots during the night to get the 1 mafia within the VTs. If we figure him out today we auto win killing medics. If we figure him out during night we auto win killing medics. If we figure him out next day we end up with 4 real vts and 3 medics which contain a mafia. = autowin cuz medics kill each other during night. If we figure him out the second night we go into a 2 VT + 1 medic vs a fakeclaiming medic mafia. It's a 50/50 because we have to lynch. But seriously. If we lose that we missed 3 lynches and 2 vig shots. Then you just deserve to lose. | ||
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Vivax
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I think Kelsier is the best lynch among non claimers. ##Unvote ##Vote KelsierSC | ||
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rsoultin
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On March 08 2018 07:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: hm. I'm not quite sure if I see what Holyflare is seeing about darthfoley. ^ This came after my vote on tube, and before DF switched. It's also the first time he takes any sort of stance on DF at all the entire game. So I agree that if DF is town, that's a point in moosy's favor. Of course, he could have just been uncomfortable moving after pushing tube most of the day phase, so it's hardly a hard clear. Yeaaah, I'm beginning to think that maybe HF was right. Don't tell him. (Not necessarily about DF's alignment, but that the NK info might have been more helpful tonight. Shh). -crawls off into Tina's shame corner- | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
3. darthfoley 5. Holyflare 6. rsoultin 7. Koshi 8. KelsierSC Kill 4. Do not do the shit rsoultin and HF suggest. Do not kill medics. Within these 6 names you have 4 chances to hit the 1 mafia. only when it is the 4th try that you hit mafia you need to lynch the last mafia in a 50/50 between medics. Mafia has no option to kill VTs. Well... They could but then they chance the 1/3 chance on the last medic shot into a 1/2 shot and then last day is a 3 medics + 1 VT "mylo". So that doesn't change shit. Just play the game like I suggest. Kill 4 within 6. If you hit the 1 mafia you autowin unless it was the last shot 2 nights from now. If you can't hit the mafia withing these 6 names you just deserve to lose. | ||
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rsoultin
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On March 10 2018 22:27 Vivax wrote: Well we aren't lynching into the medic claims today right? Besides the other claims are tricky to read for me. I couldn't really point at one of them and say he's scum for certain. I think Kelsier is the best lynch among non claimers. ##Unvote ##Vote KelsierSC Yeah we shouldn't be lynching into the medic claims tonight. I presume HF is going to remove his vote since he was talking about having medics shoot each other tonight, he just hasn't done it yet. | ||
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rsoultin
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On March 10 2018 22:30 Koshi wrote: 1. Alakaslam 3. darthfoley 5. Holyflare 6. rsoultin 7. Koshi 8. KelsierSC Kill 4. Do not do the shit rsoultin and HF suggest. Do not kill medics. Within these 6 names you have 4 chances to hit the 1 mafia. only when it is the 4th try that you hit mafia you need to lynch the last mafia in a 50/50 between medics. Mafia has no option to kill VTs. Well... They could but then they chance the 1/3 chance on the last medic shot into a 1/2 shot and then last day is a 3 medics + 1 VT "mylo". So that doesn't change shit. Just play the game like I suggest. Kill 4 within 6. If you hit the 1 mafia you autowin unless it was the last shot 2 nights from now. If you can't hit the mafia withing these 6 names you just deserve to lose. -pokes- You've given a ton of setup advice and appear to actually be reading something, so do you have any reads? | ||
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rsoultin
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Vivax
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On March 10 2018 22:23 Koshi wrote: So 4 medic claims. Good stuff. This means we have 6 VTs versus 4 medics atm. We know there is 1 mafia within the VTs. Now we have 2 lynches and 2 medic shots during the night to get the 1 mafia within the VTs. If we figure him out today we auto win killing medics. If we figure him out during night we auto win killing medics. If we figure him out next day we end up with 4 real vts and 3 medics which contain a mafia. = autowin cuz medics kill each other during night. If we figure him out the second night we go into a 2 VT + 1 medic vs a fakeclaiming medic mafia. It's a 50/50 because we have to lynch. But seriously. If we lose that we missed 3 lynches and 2 vig shots. Then you just deserve to lose. Koshi I really like that you play through the scenarios but did you read people's filters yet? I don't think I can read you either way when you are going to be a setup cruncher as it's a very noncommittal way to play the game. | ||
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rsoultin
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I just don't want to auto and find out he just sucks lol >< Then again, we've got a ton of time to work things out now, so there's that. Also, I think a better way of using our 'four' medics is to have two vig targets tonight outside the medic pool with two clearly assigned to one target, and two to another. Then scum has to play ball or reveal which pairing has the fake claim. | ||
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