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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 09 2018 22:58 GMT
#981
I think rsoultin is a tad tunneled lmao. I will read into hf again rsoul but take a step back. You guys have been going at each other so long I forget at times what yoi guys are arguing about even
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 09 2018 22:59 GMT
#982
On March 10 2018 04:46 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Noobking


I think I'd still lynch Kelsier first but this might make noob post.

lol, nnnnahhhh, I don't think that's gonna work.

I mean, getting words out of n00bKing is like pulling teeth!

My skimming shows that the mass claim went off, so:
On March 09 2018 08:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
Good shit medics

Don't mention it.

Will read and respond to the rest off and on, over the next couple of hours.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 09 2018 23:00 GMT
#983
What do you mean going at each other for so long? I'm literally not even going after her for anything at all the entire game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 09 2018 23:01 GMT
#984
HE'S CLAIMING MEDIC GUYS THIS IS GREAT.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 09 2018 23:12 GMT
#985
Oh sick
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 09 2018 23:30 GMT
#986
Here we go :popcorn:
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 09 2018 23:31 GMT
#987
Wait thats wrong
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 09 2018 23:47 GMT
#988
On March 09 2018 18:21 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 08:01 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not medic lol


So yeah, I thought early that you were using your medic claim to get reactions, thus your scumread on tube. My impression of your town play is that you also like to game mafia night actions, so I thought that this made it slightly more likely that your claim came from town (especially if you were not medic).

Didn't like how you refused to answer my question while talking around it. I came into thread all but decided that a town HF would not be deliberately antagonizing me because lately as town you've been quick to try to understand when I start getting agitated and try to diffuse it. Then I got distracted by Viva, and Lex and I had to leave. By the time I got back you'd answered my question without further pressure from me, so I let it go, and even townread you a bit more for it because, as I said, I feel it's a town-tell for you to try not to agitate me lately when something you say sets me off.

So when I saw your post here at beginning of day I wasn't surprised.

But now I'm wondering why a town HF bothers to say this. Perhaps you can enlighten me.

Okay, I think I've read all of the back-and-forth between you and HF fairly closely now, and I don't see that he ever answered this question of why he led off Day 2 by saying he's not really a medic, if he didn't want the mass claim. Do you feel like he answered this?

As far as the rest of the "to claim or not to claim" discussion between the two of you:

I do think there was at least some validity to Holyflare's stated reasons for opposing the mass claim. I just felt that those reasons were not AS strong as the valid reasons in FAVOR of the mass claim, which is part of why I supported it.

It may have been a "close call" but the reasons to do it outweighed the reasons not to, and then I myself eventually had a selfish reason to want the mass claim, because I made would *could* have been perceived by the mafia as a "blueslip" earlier in the phase. (It actually was NOT one, but as soon as I'd made the post, I noticed it might LOOK like one, so I'm glad we're doing the mass claim.)

Obviously there's no denying that his resistance to the mass claim now does not line up with his pre-game musings. So instead of trying to say the thoughts mesh, he says he has just changed his mind. In your experience (and really, anyone can chime in on this) is Town HF someone that changes his mind about things regularly? If he's prone to flip-flopping on things like this, then the contradiction you've found may not be scum-indicative at all.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 09 2018 23:52 GMT
#989
On March 09 2018 20:59 Vivax wrote:
I'm considering lynching FF for TMI today.

Be more specific. Because he seemed to know Tubesock was Town, or because he seemed to know prpl was scum? Or both?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 09 2018 23:59 GMT
#990
Imo unless we get a fifth medic claim we should ignore medic claim people because scum is basically forced to narrow one of 2 cells with nks.

Or was that the plan all along
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 10 2018 00:01 GMT
#991
Yeah this is kind of a cell game except way easier for town
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 10 2018 00:08 GMT
#992
Yeah hf probably isnt scum over ksc/koshi I'm probably just wrong again lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 10 2018 00:08 GMT
#993
On March 10 2018 04:14 darthfoley wrote:
I did feel like n00bking placing all the blame for not lynching me D1 on other people not fulfilling his "what's DF's META!!?!?!" was oddly placed and seemed contrived

Problem being that if *I* were scum and *you* weren't on the team, then I wouldn't need to make ANY excuse for not lynching you on Day 1 (contrived or otherwise) because I WOULD have lynched you on Day 1. lol

As explained already, here:
I can't really see any way to scumread me for: abandoning my original lynch target with 1 hour to go (who was Town) and defending the counterwagon (also town, in this hypothetical) and then leaving, and just crossing my fingers and hoping the noose doesn't fall onto one of my teammates. Working to keep DF out of the noose in that scenario couldn't possibly make less sense, especially once DF claims medic, which would've made it trivially easy to just go "oh, you're claiming medic? That makes you mathematically more likely to be scum now. Die." Boom, dead Town medic, and a BULLETPROOF alibi for me sticking him in the noose.

If I'm scum and you're not, why am I keeping a town medic out of the noose, and risking the chance that the lynch is one of my teammates instead? That is never, ever, (ever) happening.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 10 2018 00:15 GMT
#994
##unvote
##vote kelsier
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 10 2018 00:17 GMT
#995
On March 10 2018 04:20 rsoultin wrote:
In other points of interest, I do like discussing moosy because he doesn't have the steam id expect from a towny who got a scum flip and also thought it was 'really good' the amg kill because it eliminated a tinfoil theory.

He also took a pussyfoot neutral stance to mass claiming.

And like I've said, he didn't propose any N1 vig targets until I asked him directly. I've talked about how Moosy's filter mostly reads like he's disregarding prpl's existence. iirc Moosy has made one or more comments about having not played in a while, and he's not one of the people who have been playing on this site the longest. I don't know if he plays on other sites all the time like I do, but if not, he may not be very experienced, and I've found that oftentimes, inexperienced mafia players will just avoid main-thread interaction with their teammates. I think it's a decent association case, and would be interested to see how Moosy responds to vote pressure. Kelsier obviously still a good target as well, but I can't tell whether or not he *would* respond to vote pressure.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 10 2018 00:18 GMT
#996
On March 10 2018 02:09 Koshi wrote:
I'll type this out so it is easier for mafia to decide to fakeclaim. At least one should or just forfeit now.

8 vs 2 with 3 medics
So current situation is:
3M + 5 versus 2

Now let's do worst case scenario:
After 1 ml:
3M + 4 versus 2
After nk and our medics stacking (really important all medics stack on 1)
2M + 3 versus 2
After second ml:
2M + 2 versus 2
After nk and our medics stacking (really important all medics stack on 1)
1M + 1 versus 2 and we lose.


That would mean that we lynched 2 townies and vigged 2 townies out of a pool of 5 townies that werent medic.
That would be impressive.


So one mafia needs to fakeclaim medic and one mafia needs to claim VT


gl hf



PS: I haven't read the rules with how the medic thing works since I read it when this thread got started 2 weeks ago or something.


This just struck me as strange from koshi, given he's basically coaching scum how to play @.@

But that's so blatant I'm not sure why scum would do it here.

I'd probably dismiss it entirely if not for koshi doing nada since he replaced in.

(Also agree with ff, but I think it might be a good idea to vig one of the medics tonight)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 10 2018 00:21 GMT
#997
On March 10 2018 04:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoultin what are you and holyflare fighting about again. Last time was darthfoley, is it still darthfoley or something else?

Why don't you RTFT and find out?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 10 2018 00:23 GMT
#998
On March 10 2018 09:17 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2018 04:20 rsoultin wrote:
In other points of interest, I do like discussing moosy because he doesn't have the steam id expect from a towny who got a scum flip and also thought it was 'really good' the amg kill because it eliminated a tinfoil theory.

He also took a pussyfoot neutral stance to mass claiming.

And like I've said, he didn't propose any N1 vig targets until I asked him directly. I've talked about how Moosy's filter mostly reads like he's disregarding prpl's existence. iirc Moosy has made one or more comments about having not played in a while, and he's not one of the people who have been playing on this site the longest. I don't know if he plays on other sites all the time like I do, but if not, he may not be very experienced, and I've found that oftentimes, inexperienced mafia players will just avoid main-thread interaction with their teammates. I think it's a decent association case, and would be interested to see how Moosy responds to vote pressure. Kelsier obviously still a good target as well, but I can't tell whether or not he *would* respond to vote pressure.

I think I need to add rereading eod to my to-do list.

Cause moosy could have voted df as well and I think he was on tube. Almost certain.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 10 2018 00:27 GMT
#999
I'll bother changing my vote when I'm not on phone anymore and don't have to mess with BBCode.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 10 2018 00:31 GMT
#1000
Actually, last post before bed, I'm a dumbbell. It would be more interesting to see how scum plays around the medic pool. We should probably focus on non-medic claims first in general.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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