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On March 09 2018 17:30 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 08:51 n00bKing wrote:On March 06 2018 08:38 Damdred wrote:On March 06 2018 08:37 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 06 2018 08:34 Damdred wrote:
Welcome town Fecalfeast, and maybe so moosydoosy. But do you think we should have a secondary vote and force the medics to act as a vig shot every night for our second kill? 3 medics though are we doing a vote to have all 3 medics on 1 target, wasting our chance at a save to render mafia medic useless? I suppose but what happens if we don't control them d1 and two overlap on a super towny person? Yeah, if you're coordinating a medic kill on any given night, I think all the medics have to use the same target. This not only renders the Mafia medic useless, but it also renders the Mafia roleblocker useless. They basically just have 3 vanilla bad guys. Coordinating things so that 2 medics kill a guy and one tries to prevent the mafia kill not only opens you up to disruption by the roleblocker, but I also don't see a way to get the medics on the same page (about which 2 are killing a guy and which 1 is trying to make a save) without telling the Mafia who they are. So you can't do anything but "all 3 on the same target" unless you execute a mass claim. Having never played under this set of rules (or one like it) I don't know if the mass claim is good or bad. I'll have to read the pre-game discussion again. One thing I DO remember from pre-game discussion is the idea that this ruleset favors us pretty heavily, and that the Mafia will have to play extremely well to win. Is there a "far and away" best Scum player that we can lynch, to make sure that won't happen? :D Goddamn I can’t remember why but this post This had me certain he was scum before I replaced in and now for the life of me I can’t do it. Melatonin should kick in soon.
I actually also did not like this post from noobking early in the game like Alakaslam. It was only later that I townread him because of this.
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On March 10 2018 04:18 Holyflare wrote:
I think we lynch noobking today so he's forced to spew and nk kelsier. Or the other way around if you wanna give noob more time.
I'm good with leaving the trash to the medic shot. I.e. only post just enough ksc
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"shouldn't that make me mafia?" is quite literally what I say in the quoted post even
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On March 08 2018 06:05 n00bKing wrote:Alright HF, you've said that DF's filter is "all just filler posts and no actual want to solve anything" and followed up later by saying "No drive, probably mafia." But we have plenty of players in the game who have shown no drive, or have put in no effort to solve anything, or have been no help. Kelsier and chaoser have been no help. prpl has been no help. I feel like Tubesock has been no help. When we're 46 hours into the game, I think you'd have to categorize Damdred (and his mighty single-page filter) as having been little or no help. If I lump DF into that category, it means that fully half of the other 12 players in the game with me have been no help. So I don't think DF's lack of drive automatically makes him a good lynch, unless you feel like a Town DF *would* show an actual "want to solve anything" and *would* show "drive." Is that the case? Because again, unless there's reason for you to expect more than this from a Town DF, then I don't see anything that makes this particular mole the one that needs whacking. His posting style is pretty careless. The filter is filled with him either repeating something he already said, or repeating something someone else already said. An example of him repeating himself is this post: Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 07:27 darthfoley wrote:
n00b/rsoultin/AMG/Damdred is my town list ATM He'd already named all 4 of those players as townreads. No need for a new, distinct post that merely says the same thing. And an example of him repeating another player is this: Show nested quote +On March 08 2018 04:49 darthfoley wrote:
FF's filter reads like he's heavily influenced by the slightest amount of thread sentiment.
he's talked about lynching prplhz, rsoultin, vivax, Tubesock, me with basically no explanation.
Which is basically everyone that has had any pressure on him/herself today. I'm fine scum reading him That post might as well be a copy & paste of Moosy's "King of Wagons" thing. (By the way, I think "Wagon King" would sound way cooler than "King of Wagons." Calls to mind the Witch King. Good stuff.) DF also parroted my verbiage almost exactly, when talking about prpl's "wishy washyness." I'd expect a little more caution and a little more mindfulness than this, from most scum players. If a scum player wasn't going to pay any more attention than this, why bother even making the posts? Just be yet another afk dude instead.
Most tmi post I've seen in a while if df is town
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I would lynch wall of text king
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On March 06 2018 08:51 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 08:38 Damdred wrote:On March 06 2018 08:37 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 06 2018 08:34 Damdred wrote:
Welcome town Fecalfeast, and maybe so moosydoosy. But do you think we should have a secondary vote and force the medics to act as a vig shot every night for our second kill? 3 medics though are we doing a vote to have all 3 medics on 1 target, wasting our chance at a save to render mafia medic useless? I suppose but what happens if we don't control them d1 and two overlap on a super towny person? Yeah, if you're coordinating a medic kill on any given night, I think all the medics have to use the same target. This not only renders the Mafia medic useless, but it also renders the Mafia roleblocker useless. They basically just have 3 vanilla bad guys. Coordinating things so that 2 medics kill a guy and one tries to prevent the mafia kill not only opens you up to disruption by the roleblocker, but I also don't see a way to get the medics on the same page (about which 2 are killing a guy and which 1 is trying to make a save) without telling the Mafia who they are. So you can't do anything but "all 3 on the same target" unless you execute a mass claim. Having never played under this set of rules (or one like it) I don't know if the mass claim is good or bad. I'll have to read the pre-game discussion again. One thing I DO remember from pre-game discussion is the idea that this ruleset favors us pretty heavily, and that the Mafia will have to play extremely well to win. Is there a "far and away" best Scum player that we can lynch, to make sure that won't happen? :D
On March 06 2018 08:59 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 08:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 06 2018 08:51 n00bKing wrote:
Is there a "far and away" best Scum player that we can lynch, to make sure that won't happen? :D Holyflare Hmm, okay. If he were Scum and decided that the mass claim favors the Mafia, would he be bold enough to immediately fake-claim Medic, and try to force the Town into a disadvantageous mass claim? Or would that be "too obvious" of a scum play?
I did not like these two posts to be exact and waited until his squabbling over what Tubesock said to read him as town. It felt a bunch like filter rather than being productive.
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fecal was another scum read of mine but if he's claiming medic the move is probably to just believe it for now
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On March 10 2018 04:15 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2018 04:03 rsoultin wrote:
I'll vote ksc if and only if we talk about other scumreads, including hf.
I can see that I probably won't get that lynch today. And maybe he really does somehow believe that seeing if DF was nkd night two outweighed the benefits of 3 confirmed town.
But that seems awfully shortsighted for the hf I know, when if df is fake-claiming we will know much sooner that someone is with a mass claim.
He gave no good reason against a mass claim, only one that is selfish if he's town. And it diverted hard from his pre-game, pre-role pm perception of how this game should be played.
I need people to actually read, think, and tell me why I'm wrong.
I think ksc is likely to be scum, and also feel that slam looks okay to the extent that I can read him. So I'm happy with a ksc lynch today.
But I also think that an auto lynch promotes less discussion. So you get my vote by engaging me or I'll annoy everyone by posting my gripes with HF over and over until it's impossible to do that anymore. Hf says pre-game that this is a claim game that requires skilled mafia to claim a role to survive otherwise it's over. Hf claims vt before mass claim and hard claims vt after mass claim. Does not compute.
Hf resisted mass claim after stating it was the best strat when he could be trusted.
Hf cannot claim medic without pushing for a df lynch because then scum didn't take the free extra kill on a claimed medic.
Df flips medic...that's not good for scum hf survival, now is it?
See, I can narrate too.
The fact of the matter is you resisted the best play for town which you previously identified trying to make it sound like it's better to keep medics secret and let people geting lynched claim medic with no possibility of cc because the real medics both think oh, with x that makes three. Also risking medic shotting a medic.
So yeah. Call my push dumb all you want, but it's not.
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would mafia fake claim here tho? probably yea right
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If Mafia was 2 inactives and noobking that would be pretty funny tbh
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On March 10 2018 04:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
would mafia fake claim here tho? probably yea right
I would definitely fake here if i was scum
WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM
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This game is probably a wrap so I'm not going to waste my team diving too deep into filters. If anyone wants me to look into anything though feel free to ask and I will. :D
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On March 10 2018 04:24 Holyflare wrote:
"shouldn't that make me mafia?" is quite literally what I say in the quoted post even
Except you don't. You say maybe maybe not and go straight to noob who only did thething had you say MAY NOT make me scum after all.
You should be pushing me. But you can lynch noob. You're never lynching me certainly not today. That could be coincidence, but it's an illogical step from you among several recently.
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On March 10 2018 04:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
would mafia fake claim here tho? probably yea right
This is irrelevant wih three claims.
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On March 10 2018 04:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoultin what are you and holyflare fighting about again. Last time was darthfoley, is it still darthfoley or something else?
Hf insists mass-claiming is dumb because we could have gotten more info out of night kills without it (I.e. scum should now be shooting claimed medics).
Pre-game he said the game was too town-favored because if all medics are alive day 2 they can claim, give town three confirmed town, and get another big shot off night 2.
Now he says he's changed his mind. I don't believe him even if I admit it's not impossible.
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##Unvote
##Vote Noobking
I think I'd still lynch Kelsier first but this might make noob post.
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On March 10 2018 04:46 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Noobking
I think I'd still lynch Kelsier first but this might make noob post.
We can night murder ksc instead
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I think the simplest explanation is he doesn't want it because he's scum.
He's more interested in getting a lynch than pursuing who should be his top suspect if he thinks Amg as an nk means a top townread is scum...because he's scum.
And this nonsense about he would have claimed medic as scum is exactly that...nonsense. DF's flip would mean his death. And he had to push df of he claimed medic here.
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