I think mafia played well and put noobking under the medics. I think DF should have died if he wasn't a real medic. (from what I read after I replaced). Vivax and fefe look medics.
Problem is we can't kill him. Because the game stays the same which is find the 1 mafia in 6 names. Well... The only difference is that if we are wrong we lose our shooting power 1 night earlier. And if we are right we do not lose after the second vigshot during night. We always have our lylo with 3 VTs and 1 medic.
But who cares really. Just don't kill medics. If we are wrong and kill a town medic we are idiots. We can't take the risk.
Anyway. I don't have reads. I think Slam is town and figured out noobking. Pretty sure he wont buss like that. I think I agree with rsoultin that HF proposed something sub-optimal and I don't know what that makes HF. I know I can kill all 3 out of HF, MD and Kelsier so who really cares?
On March 10 2018 22:42 rsoultin wrote: Hm, I think I'd rather vote Kelsier because I have no clue what the point of his posts even are if he's town. Particularly when he said he didn't know what I was talking about. So he's reading but not reading?
I just don't want to auto and find out he just sucks lol >< Then again, we've got a ton of time to work things out now, so there's that.
Also, I think a better way of using our 'four' medics is to have two vig targets tonight outside the medic pool with two clearly assigned to one target, and two to another. Then scum has to play ball or reveal which pairing has the fake claim.
Oh, god, if Kelsier's scum and the medic this would be so perfect >< lol even if that means one more dead town. One scum in two rather than in four.
Or maybe saves are better without a scum medic.
Whatever, we can discuss this during night phase. I'd have to think about it more.
I opened MD his filter and he is superobvious town trying to solve the game and enjoying himself. I do not see him operate within a team the way he is posting. ##vote Kelsier
Kelsier needs to go. Looks like super duper awkward mafia but life isn't that easy.
Yeah, I think the only two I'd consider lynching today are moosy and KSC, with a preference for KSC.
I think I was being retarded about HF. Slam I feel relatively okay about.
If for whatever god-awful reason KSC or moosy don't end up being the lynch today, I could see myself voting koshi; nothing he's posted screams town for me. But I'd much rather give him the opportunity to play.
As for the medics, I think I actually feel best about FF, which is weird to say. Viva fell off a bit for me, which is opposite from what I'd expect after a scum flip, but if he's town I expect that to rectify itself by the time we're actually considering which medic to lynch. Which means I'm most likely wrong on Noob or df, pft. And probably have been mafia-siding a lot this game.
On March 10 2018 21:33 Holyflare wrote: Point 2 is not blatantly untrue, your push on AMG I felt was not good at all and based off of really weak points. Sure, it wasn't ALL day one but it was the latter half of it and it felt really odd to come from you as a push because it applied to so many other people and was extrapolated nonsense based on a push for the plural of a word. Seems silly to me.
Point 4 is not untrue. At every point I have pushed df you have said no, not lynching him and referenced his tone being town and that he is town because of his town read on you. I posted a case and YOU defended him from it. That is hard defending.
Point 1 is definitely true.
Point 3 multiple people have told you it doesn't make sense. It's also incongruent with your entire thought process. You have posted multiple times that I'm not mafia over one of the medic claims and afkers now BUT STILL TRY AND PUSH IT LIKE IT'S TRUE. It's ridiculous and amounts to setting up for the future imo because you still try and say it like it's a point while simultaneously referencing that I might not actually be mafia. You either believe it and I'm mafia or you retract it because you admit it's not a strong point. There is absolutely no in between with this.
Now that I'm done, I'll reply to this.
My slight townread on prp was definitely weak. And wrong. Already conceded that.
It's blatantly untrue that I pushed AMG all or even part of Day 1. This was the only negative I said about AMG during the day phase:
On March 07 2018 05:12 darthfoley wrote: Okay i've caught up.
AMG and n00b are pretty townie ATM. I think Damdred is kinda townie right now actually, for once. Maybe rsoultin too, because I agree with her about Tubesock. He might be mafia, but not for the reasons HF is pushing. The medic thing is really NAI even if it's "strange"
Lynch pool of prplhz, FF and Tubesock for the time being. I really didn't like how FF announced his first read, then felt the need to explain why he's scumreading prplhz in the next post. I think you either 1) do both in one post or 2) announce your scum read, then explain it if asked. Just felt a tad like he's trying to make sure everyone knows he has reasoning behind his scumread, if that makes sense.
A loveless post.
This dude and this dude are town atm. I think this dude is kinda townie right now actually, for once [are you sure you didn't forget to add anything, df] Maybe this dudess is is town too because I agree with her about that dude.
Lynch these three dudes for the time being. Here's an explanation for one of them: I didn't like that he didn't post both read and reasons in one post [which could be said for AMG].
Peace out.
Ah. Yeah...this isn't really compelling for me, either. It's not much different from HF's points. The reads felt like they developed organically enough to me.
I'll openly admit that I could probably be easily fooled by a scum df (and yes blatantly ignoring the claim cause whatevs) but I'm just not finding the arguments against him compelling when his read on me developed fairly naturally I thought.
Your issue with AMG resonated with me more, probably because I didn't really care for his reaction to Tube's return. That was an awfully quick about-face based on a 'suicide' that wasn't really a suicide from my point of view.
And yes, that caused me to really start looking into him N1, when I really didn't like his prp scumread. In particular the part you always fail to mention, which was apparently based on a misunderstanding anyway. He thought prp said his reasoning for scumming tube was good, but that AMG was scum anyway. When it was obvious that prp was saying yours was, HF, but would probably land town. So if you want to scumread me for pushing AMG N1 then allegedly nking him, go ahead?
Point three disregards I'd been answering questions (moosy's in particular) and had otherwise moved on. It also disregards that at the time I still took issue with you. Not more than KSC, but it's not like it's easy to let go of a read you believe when the only thing that has substantially changed is you couldn't be scum with anyone who hadn't claimed. Now I think I was being retarded and your nk information point has merit given DF was the only other wagon that really had a chance to be lynched D1. I don't really agree that it outweighed a mass claim, but I can see you believing it now. So yeah.
Point four is also untrue:
On March 07 2018 05:25 rsoultin wrote: DF has also almost earned a cookie!
I like where you prodded on me, and our reads are lining up, too.
So either this game will be fairly easy or I'm townreading someone too easily. Which is always possible.
lynchpool: tube, ff, afkers ftw
Still not feeling a prp lynch though he'd prob be next in line afterwards. Followed by hf. Or maybe hf first. Either way I don't really have a problem with either and see reasons to think they could be town.
This is where I first started townreading DF. And yes part of that was the lack of OMGUS which I saw in his previous scum game, but that was certainly not the biggest part. So you can say that I hard defended DF, and that's true. You can also say I pushed off both him and prp at EoD. That's true. And maybe they're both scum, that's entirely possible.
But you can't say I did it just because DF townread me. I didn't. You can't say my prp read (bad though it was) was based on nothing. I do my best, and I don't pretend that I have the best reads in the game, lol ><
It's okay if you think I'm scum for being wrong on prp, though. I'll own that. But that's really the only legitimate reason to scumread me, in my mind. Unless you plan on lynching me for a pre-flip association.
Also, regarding your third point, I said it was wrong because I absolutely did think I caught you pushing something that was not only anti-town to me, but that clearly went against your earlier pre-game perception of the best way to play this game. That 100% made sense. I'm not going to browbeat that because I don't think it's relevant anymore.
But yeah it's still wrong if what you meant was that I was pushing you today after the fourth medic claim, because I was just answering a question -shrugs-
On March 10 2018 22:30 Koshi wrote: 1. Alakaslam 3. darthfoley 5. Holyflare 6. rsoultin 7. Koshi 8. KelsierSC
Kill 4.
Do not do the shit rsoultin and HF suggest. Do not kill medics.
Within these 6 names you have 4 chances to hit the 1 mafia. only when it is the 4th try that you hit mafia you need to lynch the last mafia in a 50/50 between medics. Mafia has no option to kill VTs. Well... They could but then they chance the 1/3 chance on the last medic shot into a 1/2 shot and then last day is a 3 medics + 1 VT "mylo". So that doesn't change shit.
Just play the game like I suggest. Kill 4 within 6. If you hit the 1 mafia you autowin unless it was the last shot 2 nights from now. If you can't hit the mafia withing these 6 names you just deserve to lose.
Weirdly enough I actually think i'm most comfortable believing FeFe's medic claim. Although he was also next in line with Kelscier for the vigi axe. Hmmm. Meh, I think he's just played a lazy role game
On March 08 2018 07:11 Vivax wrote: If I'm already talking about Tube and AMG and your response is just "I'm a medic no lyncherino pls" then I don't know how to spark interest into you finding a better lynch other than yourself.
I disagree with you about AMG and I think Tubesock is a decent lynch and the points against him have been hashed out already. I'm not sure what you expect of me?
I think FeFe/prplhz/Tubesock are good lynches. I prefer FeFe or prplhz over Tubesock, but Tubesock is fine.
Don't lecture me about interest when you magically come into the thread as a wagon forms on you and have a filter 1/4 of mine
I'm still a fan of this post I made.
Also you guys should go control + F Vivax's filter on prplhz. It's fun
Vivax/n00bking is where the scum lies. My gut tells me Vivax
On March 10 2018 21:12 Holyflare wrote: The things rsoul has pushed this game make me so wary of her she keeps dropping down my list:
1) Town reading prplhz on nothing 2) Pushing amg all day 1 and then dropping it 3) Pushing me today despite it not making any sense 4) Hard defending df because of some tiny town read he gave her
Only things going for her:
1) Getting people to mass claim
:O
Hadn’t even considered this.
These are possible pts but
I suspect and fear HF
He is the ultimate Svengali as scum, unto he
He has reached the greatness of Blazinghand (has he even surpassed it?) + Show Spoiler +
On March 11 2018 01:14 darthfoley wrote: Oh and i'm more than fine with Kelscier dying. The dude has said he'd play the game like 3 times and hasn't done anything.
##Vote: KelscierSC
Can I ask the same pathetic Alakaslam signature move?
EPT
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