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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 09 2018 08:30 GMT
#861
Also you fools had me so pissed when lynching Tubesock but meh, wifom wifom wifom.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 09 2018 08:31 GMT
#862
On March 09 2018 17:30 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 17:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Look at Noobking’s early filter, I was suspicious of this.

[image loading]

Come at me, bro.

Look up
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 09 2018 08:34 GMT
#863
Sad thing is this isn’t WOWS so I can’t just drop toros blind like this


But I can’t explain the complex maths going on in my head that set off the sense of CHICKENMCFISH

by the way I recently remembered the source of CHUPAZI
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 09 2018 08:37 GMT
#864
On March 09 2018 16:55 Holyflare wrote:
Mass claiming is dumb. Just gives mafia a kill list that detracts from nk info. If we're about to lynch a medic just claim instead.


I'd be more on board with this if we didn't have 3 town medics, which makes ccing impossible without a mass claim.

Do you fundamentally disagree that shooting into claimed medics narrows down the fake claim (assuming a scum fake claim)?

And if no fake claims, how does info from the 'night kills' when we get two more free vig shots and one save without a scum roleblocker (assuming shots on 3 medics 3 nights in a row) possibly outweigh removing 3 names from lynch consideration?

We'd be looking for two scum in seven people rather than two in ten. I like those odds. Especially if even one of those medics is lynchbait. Like, if we can clear some lynch bait, and they're not in my top townreads (assuming my top townreads are correct) this game is practically solved.

I really don't see how NK info outweighs this. Sometimes I find NK info helps, but usually I find it WIFOMy anyway.

Three confirmed town vs. NK guesswork.

Yeah I really, really think the mass claim is the best move for town here.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 09 2018 08:38 GMT
#865
Anyway, I had thoughts of a noobking/HF scumteam early.

But it’s just not coming to me now.

Which fit’s noobking scum story on me HOLY SHIT THAT WAS WHY

HE LOOKS FOR THE INACTIVE OR EASY LYNCH RIGHT FROM THE START

read it folks textbook scum

He found it on Tubesock but as HF pointed out holy shit that’s right that’s why HF looks so good to me by now ABYWAY as Hf pointed out he suddenly unvotes and switches last min.

See this uncanny thing scum do, they switch last minute and won’t stack on someone

Who got shot? I need to read night posted
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 09 2018 08:40 GMT
#866
Oh well holy shit nice shot big

Anyway I need to catch up.
I didn’t like AMG at all. I need to re-evaluate a bit then.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 09 2018 08:42 GMT
#867
And I also really liked Prp. Even had this

Ready for a towngasm but if he is fucking scum that does t work well now does it

FACK forget all the shit I said for a day or so I nedtofuxninfskeep
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 09 2018 08:42 GMT
#868
On March 09 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 16:55 Holyflare wrote:
Mass claiming is dumb. Just gives mafia a kill list that detracts from nk info. If we're about to lynch a medic just claim instead.


I'd be more on board with this if we didn't have 3 town medics, which makes ccing impossible without a mass claim.

Do you fundamentally disagree that shooting into claimed medics narrows down the fake claim (assuming a scum fake claim)?

And if no fake claims, how does info from the 'night kills' when we get two more free vig shots and one save without a scum roleblocker (assuming shots on 3 medics 3 nights in a row) possibly outweigh removing 3 names from lynch consideration?

We'd be looking for two scum in seven people rather than two in ten. I like those odds. Especially if even one of those medics is lynchbait. Like, if we can clear some lynch bait, and they're not in my top townreads (assuming my top townreads are correct) this game is practically solved.

I really don't see how NK info outweighs this. Sometimes I find NK info helps, but usually I find it WIFOMy anyway.

Three confirmed town vs. NK guesswork.

Yeah I really, really think the mass claim is the best move for town here.

Aye fine by me VT
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 09 2018 08:44 GMT
#869
Lol >< this is why I miss Slam the Man

Though Noobking's post you quoted doesn't say anything about looking for inactive or easy lynches?

He did that later D1.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 09 2018 08:45 GMT
#870
On March 09 2018 17:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
On March 09 2018 16:55 Holyflare wrote:
Mass claiming is dumb. Just gives mafia a kill list that detracts from nk info. If we're about to lynch a medic just claim instead.


I'd be more on board with this if we didn't have 3 town medics, which makes ccing impossible without a mass claim.

Do you fundamentally disagree that shooting into claimed medics narrows down the fake claim (assuming a scum fake claim)?

And if no fake claims, how does info from the 'night kills' when we get two more free vig shots and one save without a scum roleblocker (assuming shots on 3 medics 3 nights in a row) possibly outweigh removing 3 names from lynch consideration?

We'd be looking for two scum in seven people rather than two in ten. I like those odds. Especially if even one of those medics is lynchbait. Like, if we can clear some lynch bait, and they're not in my top townreads (assuming my top townreads are correct) this game is practically solved.

I really don't see how NK info outweighs this. Sometimes I find NK info helps, but usually I find it WIFOMy anyway.

Three confirmed town vs. NK guesswork.

Yeah I really, really think the mass claim is the best move for town here.

Aye fine by me VT


-pokes-

We really should have everyone on board (or most people) before everyone starts sounding off ^^;

Thanks, though, lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 09 2018 08:54 GMT
#871
On March 09 2018 17:40 Alakaslam wrote:
I didn’t like AMG at all.

On March 09 2018 17:40 Alakaslam wrote:
And I also really liked Prp

*blink, blink*

Yeah, get some sleep. We'll see you tomorrow....
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 09 2018 08:56 GMT
#872
On March 09 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 16:55 Holyflare wrote:
Mass claiming is dumb. Just gives mafia a kill list that detracts from nk info. If we're about to lynch a medic just claim instead.


I'd be more on board with this if we didn't have 3 town medics, which makes ccing impossible without a mass claim.

Do you fundamentally disagree that shooting into claimed medics narrows down the fake claim (assuming a scum fake claim)?

And if no fake claims, how does info from the 'night kills' when we get two more free vig shots and one save without a scum roleblocker (assuming shots on 3 medics 3 nights in a row) possibly outweigh removing 3 names from lynch consideration?

We'd be looking for two scum in seven people rather than two in ten. I like those odds. Especially if even one of those medics is lynchbait. Like, if we can clear some lynch bait, and they're not in my top townreads (assuming my top townreads are correct) this game is practically solved.

I really don't see how NK info outweighs this. Sometimes I find NK info helps, but usually I find it WIFOMy anyway.

Three confirmed town vs. NK guesswork.

Yeah I really, really think the mass claim is the best move for town here.


And what if those medics are 3 top townies? Waste of time. Just play this game like a vt game with a vig. It's much easier and takes up less thread space.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 09 2018 09:06 GMT
#873
On March 09 2018 17:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
On March 09 2018 16:55 Holyflare wrote:
Mass claiming is dumb. Just gives mafia a kill list that detracts from nk info. If we're about to lynch a medic just claim instead.


I'd be more on board with this if we didn't have 3 town medics, which makes ccing impossible without a mass claim.

Do you fundamentally disagree that shooting into claimed medics narrows down the fake claim (assuming a scum fake claim)?

And if no fake claims, how does info from the 'night kills' when we get two more free vig shots and one save without a scum roleblocker (assuming shots on 3 medics 3 nights in a row) possibly outweigh removing 3 names from lynch consideration?

We'd be looking for two scum in seven people rather than two in ten. I like those odds. Especially if even one of those medics is lynchbait. Like, if we can clear some lynch bait, and they're not in my top townreads (assuming my top townreads are correct) this game is practically solved.

I really don't see how NK info outweighs this. Sometimes I find NK info helps, but usually I find it WIFOMy anyway.

Three confirmed town vs. NK guesswork.

Yeah I really, really think the mass claim is the best move for town here.


And what if those medics are 3 top townies? Waste of time. Just play this game like a vt game with a vig. It's much easier and takes up less thread space.


I think the potential for that is fairly low just by the laws of probability.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 09 2018 09:09 GMT
#874
On February 19 2018 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
Like lynching a split wagon and you get instant n1 information of what happened. You can say "but that's what happens if there is a vig" but it's not really because in that situation it's a one shot vig and that person is confirmed and on top of having that vig one of them can heal a top town person if they so choose. Then if none of the medics die (and they can claim and that's 3 confirmed townies(!!!)) there's another night of the same exact thing happening.

Basically it's too many confirmed town + too much information given + too anti mafia imo.


Yeah...

You're skeezing me out now HF.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 09 2018 09:10 GMT
#875
Apparently pre-game the mass claim idea was one you favored. Now you don't. I have one good explanation for that and it fits with an AMG night kill over one of you, me, and viva.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 09 2018 09:21 GMT
#876
On March 09 2018 08:01 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not medic lol


So yeah, I thought early that you were using your medic claim to get reactions, thus your scumread on tube. My impression of your town play is that you also like to game mafia night actions, so I thought that this made it slightly more likely that your claim came from town (especially if you were not medic).

Didn't like how you refused to answer my question while talking around it. I came into thread all but decided that a town HF would not be deliberately antagonizing me because lately as town you've been quick to try to understand when I start getting agitated and try to diffuse it. Then I got distracted by Viva, and Lex and I had to leave. By the time I got back you'd answered my question without further pressure from me, so I let it go, and even townread you a bit more for it because, as I said, I feel it's a town-tell for you to try not to agitate me lately when something you say sets me off.

So when I saw your post here at beginning of day I wasn't surprised.

But now I'm wondering why a town HF bothers to say this. Perhaps you can enlighten me.

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 09 2018 09:27 GMT
#877
On February 19 2018 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
Nah, I think it's a not awful setup and people are correct that it's very very swingy if people don't plan around it but it's just not my type of game. I think any game that requires mafia to have some kind of strategy that involves competence and setting up fake claims is inevitably harder for mafia, especially when this forum contains people that are working and don't have time to fully spend on the game.

If it helps I hate I'm a cop too


Yeah there's like nothing here where you ever say anything pre-game about a mass cc being a bad idea. And several things about favoring it.

I am 100% willing to entertain the idea that I'm missing some downside to a mass claim. But your reasons don't make sense to me at all. That's why I went back to the pre-game talk I remember you being part of to see what your opinion was there.

NK info over confirmed town. Doesn't make sense.

All medics likely to be top town, so not worth the claims. Doesn't make sense.

Tell me why you're not just mafia shitting your pants right now.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 09 2018 09:29 GMT
#878
##vote: Holyflare

I was probably right about you antagonizing me from the start, lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 09 2018 10:21 GMT
#879
Do you think I'm fucking retarded and just do the opposite of what I said pre-game as mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 09 2018 10:23 GMT
#880
I think mass claiming is a bad idea now. I've changed my mind. I don't think it's a good idea when there's quite literally 0 point to out our power roles.

If df is a medic he has already outed and I don't want that potential nk information to be wasted because you couldn't find mafia without 2-3 more people claiming power roles.

The chance of df being town is increased with the nk so I'd rather leave it to that.
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