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On December 12 2017 07:56 Arya321 wrote: Just got home from my first final out of 3 of them I had to take and got an 90/100 but doesn't count for my grade :D Kmatt started with a 12 days of christmas joke with conversion asking for the full song while Forumite was a bit more serious? Conversion asked Kmatt to expand the song as a joke I assuming and Forumite talked about his past. HF entrance is null I could see it from either alignment. You guys are kinda boring Town. Reason: - Diving right in - fishing for reactions Good stuff. Welcome to the Koshi town club. | ||
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On December 13 2017 04:22 darthfoley wrote: VE reminds me of my playstyle from last game (literally the last mafia game played on TL) when I was mafia. His activity feels off and a bit forced. Posting for the sake of posting. Like what Kmatt said, he's trying to appear townie. I don't think he's actually pushed the game anywhere even though he's had opportunities to do so. If you didn't like the Oats filter "griding" post I want you to know I also didn't like it. | ||
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On December 12 2017 08:13 prplhz wrote: Setup talking is sometimes a good way to scum hunt as town and scum sometimes think differently about it. Scum hunting off of a couple of "Hi"-posts is unlikely to yield results, no? On December 12 2017 08:14 Conversion wrote: this isn't a great post. of course we should scum hunt, but that doesn't mean setup talk isn't scum hunting also there's like 1 page of content, so we can't really do much else until people bleed in Bad posts It was a mafia bait post from Arya. Easy to critisize without risking looking bad. | ||
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On December 12 2017 08:18 prplhz wrote: My top lynch list: Holyflare, VisceraEyes, Koshi, Palmar. On December 12 2017 08:21 prplhz wrote: Lets get started ##Vote Palmar prplhz is town. Reason: - Making waves - Solving game by thinking further than a mafia would. | ||
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On December 12 2017 12:21 Conversion wrote: from someone who would point out my usage of a nonexistent word (irregardless), I'm going to not give him the benefit of the doubt on wording something poorly. DF knew what he was typing-- a rather poor attempt to joke around and look townie by saying Palmar led "us" to defeat. I also asked DF, not you for your interpretation why aren't you pressing anyone even with some new entrances/some content to buzz around for someone who seems so eager about scumhunting? On December 12 2017 12:33 Conversion wrote: I'm saying it's a bad statement to make to try and look unnecessarily townie. if that makes him scum, idk yet. ya I'm pretty tired too and no one else seems to be entertaining me US-wise so might get some zzz Many things are happening in the thread. Conversion is focusing on 1 thing and I don't like that thing. | ||
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On December 12 2017 23:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Actually I'm super down with an Oatsmaster lynch too. Check out his D1 last game as compared to this game. And it's not like he's not here watching. He just doesn't give any fucks, where last game he gave some fucks. This is bad. Especially because I was already spoilered and you are still going on about Oats later on in this thread. | ||
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On December 12 2017 23:51 Conversion wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526614-hurricane-shelter-mafia?user=Oatsmaster looks similar to me, but tell me I'm wrong Conversion says it is similar and VE just ignores it. While he quoted that link to proof Oats was mafia earlier. LoL. | ||
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On December 13 2017 00:59 Palmar wrote: I think Conversion is town. I also think Arya is town. I have a feeling prplhz is town. I think forumite is mafia for asking a stupid question. I think VE may be mafia because he spent way too much time talking himself into voting me. Palmar can be town as well because I respect him and prefer to work with him. Explain Conversion to me please. He has townish comments but I don't know yet. | ||
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On December 13 2017 04:44 Oatsmaster wrote: What a dumb read It is basic. Not dumb. | ||
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On December 13 2017 01:00 Palmar wrote: As in, if koshi tries to not play, we lynch him. lael | ||
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On December 12 2017 08:14 Conversion wrote: this isn't a great post. of course we should scum hunt, but that doesn't mean setup talk isn't scum hunting also there's like 1 page of content, so we can't really do much else until people bleed in I think you have stronger opinions normally. | ||
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On December 13 2017 01:19 Kmatt wrote: Moreso that I think you're trying to appear townie. This is good. You can see that Kmatt is thinking about VE his alignment. Going to also call him townish. | ||
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On December 13 2017 01:26 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know how to read VE. On December 13 2017 01:26 Conversion wrote: also agree with VE there. it's not surprising his mind changed after I discussed it with him. seems kind of a forced read IMO. I don't like you at all. | ||
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On December 13 2017 01:29 VisceraEyes wrote: I skim, get the gist. Oats' filters are exceptionally easy to obtain gists from. This triggers me. I don't like this post. I read this post and feel dirty. | ||
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2) Grackaroni - Is refusing to let us read him. 3) DarthFoley - Town because his posts read genuine. 4) Holyflare - Meh 5) Conversion - Mafia lean 6) Oatsmaster - Probably town I think. Mainly due to Conversion and VE talking about him. 7) VisceraEyes - Mafia lean 8) Chezinu - Not a prior atm. If you are a vig feel free. 10) prphlz - Town 11) Eversince - afk 12) Ayra321 - Town 13) Kmatt - Townish 14) Palmar - Is fine. | ||
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I would say give Forumite time. Don't lynch him D1 because he seems like a "bad player" atm. Which is not the same as a scummy player. I think I already played with him before and I don't think he was horrible. So give him time. Grack not knowing how to read VE and not attempting to do shit is annoying but that's it. I would also not be too mad if he gets lynched. | ||
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Town: DarthFoley Oatsmaster prphlz Ayra321 Kmatt Palmar Don't lynch them today: Forumite Holyflare Shoot them but don't lynch them D1: Chezinu Grack Lynch: VE Conversion | ||
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I am voting Conversion over VE because VE is drawing more attention to himself with his "odd" play. I am not yet sure if the "odd" play from VE is him being really bad at blending in as mafia pushing ideas or that he is just playing worse than his previous game. Conversion is making posts but didn't even once draw attention to him or made a post that would cause a wave making it easier for him to solve the game. If he is town, he disappointed me the most so far. So I am going to assume he is mafia struggling to show some genuine thoughts combined with thread progression. | ||
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On December 13 2017 00:59 Palmar wrote: I think Conversion is town. I also think Arya is town. I have a feeling prplhz is town. I think forumite is mafia for asking a stupid question. I think VE may be mafia because he spent way too much time talking himself into voting me. If Conversion is mafia. If VE is town and if forumite is town this is a bad post. Because Conversion is being protected here with no basis except by add 2 more townreads. Conversion early game was not town. The other 2 I can see. forumite is mafia lynch bait of choice if town. And VE is being odd and out there. No doubt and an easy catch. That being said. I still potentially like you Palmar. Your latest posts were just really underwhelming. You need to give the thread some candy. | ||
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On December 13 2017 06:11 Conversion wrote: explain to me Koshi how Palmar defending me and thinking I’m town makes him town and me mafia. because I’m dumb and not seeing it Try to not make posts like this. They are extremely infuriating because they completely misrepresent what I am saying. It is hopefully obvious from my posts that I was not scumreading Palmar after I catched up. And that I thought he was playing slow but was trying to solve the game at his pace. But that I was hesitant to call him town because his willingness to further and solve the game was lacking in his latest posts. After rereading his filter and re-evaluating I think there is a chance Palmar is mafia. But again, I need to see more posts from him. | ||
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On December 13 2017 06:10 Conversion wrote: also Koshi being wrong on a scum read, is this real life? You skipped the part where you townread me. | ||
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On December 13 2017 06:13 Conversion wrote: also in this player list I am not only one of the worst players, but the most lynchbaity players since my play is pretty much known to be either bad or ragey or both, yet you want to give others time and state I’m your best shot? talk about going for low hanging fruit. pretty disappointed that’s the avenue you’re taking I am only giving forumite time. You are not a bad player. Far from. Don't pretend to be a victim. Don't appeal to people their emotion. Your play this game has been lacking townie eagerness. You have made no real waves, and in my eyes you created nothing new and interesting. Way too many "what do you think about x" questions that have nothing behind them. I don't see why you are asking the questions you are asking. Which makes me believe you are asking them to appear townie. Maybe I am wrong. But for me you are most likely to flip mafia. | ||
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On December 13 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote: I’m glad I’m infuriating you because I felt the same about some of your posts. glad it’s a two way road here. now tell me how DF’s posts are genuine when he’s had almost no original thoughts, and he’s not making waves either It doesn't work like that. I have stated why I think DF is town and you can believe it or not. I don't really need to explain myself. Again I wonder, do you ask me this question to further your own read on DF? Or to see if I am mafia? Both those would be townie reasons. Or are you asking me this question to release pressure on yourself? Ask me something and try to see if you can attack me on what I say. Or push me towards DF. I read your filter. Nothing strong against DF there except a playful post he is mafia for townreading you. Why DF? Dnu. Don't care. Play the game Conversion. | ||
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On December 13 2017 06:39 Grackaroni wrote: This is going to sound pretty stupid but I could see teammates wanting to jump on scum Palmar as a distancing maneuver at the start of the day when there's little chance that votes would stay on him for the rest of the day. Sure. But I could also see that not being the case. | ||
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On December 13 2017 04:22 darthfoley wrote: VE reminds me of my playstyle from last game (literally the last mafia game played on TL) when I was mafia. His activity feels off and a bit forced. Posting for the sake of posting. Like what Kmatt said, he's trying to appear townie. I don't think he's actually pushed the game anywhere even though he's had opportunities to do so. This read from DF is good. A bunch of observations that are correct. But still there is a lot of doubt as well. --> More likely a townie making this post over a mafia. It's feels genuine. It feels town. On December 13 2017 05:00 darthfoley wrote: Yes, Oats, yes! On another note, Koshi reminded me of Conversion's bad push on me that he summarily forgot about or dropped without any explanation. So maybe Conversion can get off my town list for now. Kmatt and Oats still definitely have first class seats with the reclining chairs and cozy blankets. Playful reads, having fun. I agree with the townreads. He makes them extremely strong which is not what a mafia tends to do. And in the same post changing his mind quickly and with reasoning based on a previous event in the thread. Sharing that reasoning with the thread without pushing the idea. Reads genuine. Reads town. | ||
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On December 13 2017 00:52 prplhz wrote: I literally don't have a read. Maybe Conversion is town for doing a lot of meta analysis that kind of led nowhere. On December 13 2017 00:59 Palmar wrote: I think Conversion is town. I also think Arya is town. I have a feeling prplhz is town. I think forumite is mafia for asking a stupid question. I think VE may be mafia because he spent way too much time talking himself into voting me. This also looks bad for Palmar. I really need to know why Conversion is town. Looks like mafia!Palmar adopted a read from the thread because it is his scumbuddy. But then again. I am quite convinced conversion is mafia. If he isn't. I am being very wrong. | ||
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It happened not so long ago as well. For me he is obvious town. | ||
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On December 13 2017 06:24 Grackaroni wrote: Koshi is probably town from tone but I think his Palmar read is pretty shitty. Koshi says that Forumite will be the biggest lynch bait for mafia and still town reads Palmar whose main agenda has been pushing Forumite. I agree with everything you say here. I don't know why but I associated Palmar his carefree style with town!Palmar. But it might not be true. I have had a bad feeling since I made my posts addressing Palmar directly. | ||
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On December 13 2017 06:55 Grackaroni wrote: Does fast = town Koshi? If this is about my connection with DF. Then yes. With connect I mean I can see how he thinks and what he is doing. How he feels when he makes posts. | ||
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The only thing you can blame the guy for is feeling awkward and focusing so much on the setup. But that isn't mafia. That is just weird. And weird is not mafia. I don't see the mafia agenda in his posts. | ||
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I emoticon read him town. | ||
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On December 13 2017 05:17 Koshi wrote: So we are here: Town: DarthFoley Oatsmaster prphlz Ayra321 Kmatt Palmar Don't lynch them today: Forumite Holyflare Shoot them but don't lynch them D1: Chezinu Grack Lynch: VE Conversion I think this is my new list. Town is on top. It isn't perfectly in order but close enough. Especially second to sixth place is pretty random. DarthFoley Oatsmaster prphlz VE Ayra321 Kmatt Grack Forumite Holyflare Eversince Chezinu Palmar Conversion | ||
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On December 13 2017 08:28 darthfoley wrote: Why are you town reading my scum read when that read is a large part of your town read on me? Why did you agree with my town read on Kmatt then make him your 6th most town? My list is mine. I dont know who your scumread is I am townreading. I dont tpwnread kmatt because you townread him. I dont even remember what you said about him. My lost is mine. Gathered from things in this thread. | ||
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On December 13 2017 08:54 Conversion wrote: cool story. you and Koshi going to do something like actually vote for your scum reads? I forgot lol. | ||
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On December 13 2017 09:04 darthfoley wrote: I scum read VE. You use that as part of your town read one me. You claim that we "connect" when we're both town, but you also town read VE?? I connect to your brain and understand the thoughtprpcess you have. VE is more likely not mafia and you will see that later on. Look at how he is enjoying hinself drawing attention. He is playing his game with his style. VE is cool. | ||
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On December 13 2017 01:14 VisceraEyes wrote: The speed of my townread should probably frighten you. It frightens me too. Want to hold my hand? It's kinda exciting isn't it? Talking to someone who MIGHT be the enemy?!?! I'M NOT THOUGH!!! This is so good. Lock town. Bad reads but lock town. | ||
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Atm too many lost townies. I hope they follow my lead and lynch conversion. But second on list Palmar isnt that bad either. I have such high hopes for him. But he didnt deliver once more | ||
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On December 13 2017 09:16 Holyflare wrote: VE looks forced imo, df's read on conversion is good, palmar looks mediocre af that's about it really ##vote conversion It's my read. | ||
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Oats buddy. We have established my brilliance over the past 3-5 years we have been playing together. | ||
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On December 13 2017 09:18 Holyflare wrote: No it's not, I read what you have written and I didn't want to vote conversion. I read what DF wrote and I wanted to lynch conversion. Get on his level. Good on him dumbing down my read. /flex | ||
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On December 13 2017 09:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Every game is a new game. What do you mean by "palmar can be town' then later on saying you still arent sure. I wanted Palmar to be town but knew in my hearth he wasnt. | ||
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On December 13 2017 09:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Df's read on conversion is terrible We need somebody to break the case down on Oats level | ||
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On December 13 2017 09:22 Holyflare wrote: It's terrible that Conversion said that DF is trying to look towny but then did absolutely nothing about it and didn't even call him mafia despite calling him things that mafia does? This has 5 syllabel words. Too hard. | ||
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On December 13 2017 09:38 Holyflare wrote: but I'm not mafia though right? Yeah. This happens too much conversion. | ||
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On December 13 2017 09:39 Conversion wrote: if that makes me scum, that makes me scum let's move on fellas If Eversince en Chezinu are mafia you are unlucky 😢 | ||
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On December 13 2017 09:41 Conversion wrote: entertain me while I filter dive though. who are my hypothetical partners if I flip mafia? and if I flip town, who are you looking at next? My list is gold. Pure gold. | ||
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On December 13 2017 11:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Koshi and VE are playing super forced townie Superlol | ||
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Oats is a lost cause but still leaning town. I am going to drop him on my list. Kmatt is obvious town. Chezinu rule might be safed by Chezinu mafia. @arya start putting more original thought in the thread. You are hiding behind others. I dont like it. | ||
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On December 13 2017 09:48 Arya321 wrote: Just got home from my final I saw that HF is stealing some credit about pushing Conversion even though Koshi and DF were doing it first. DF and Koshi are town I think from the interactions they had while I was gone. Also HF think's I am lightningstrike for whatever reason even though I am not him or her nor do I know him or her >.> @Koshi what you current reads on Palmar and HF @HF What you think of KMatt and his attempted push on Chezinu? The problem with veteran players is that they can play good as either alignment. I think Conversion is still the best bet for town. Both palmar and hf didnt do anything to change that. | ||
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That's a 4 people town circle right there. | ||
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On December 13 2017 09:46 Conversion wrote: your list is solid, pure gold regardless of my flip if I get lynched? Of course. | ||
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On December 13 2017 19:09 Eversince wrote: What is wrong with Chezy? I don't have a issue with Kmatt, probably asleep, no problem for me. Oats is ok if he explains why he thinks his way he reached his conclusion. That's my problem with, I don't agree with some of what he says. But that does not make him mafia. That just means that I failed to see his line of thought. (Which might make him mafia) Nothing really wrong with Chez. It's PoE atm. I hope we have a dt or vig or something that deals with him. Most likely a d3 lynch. | ||
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On December 13 2017 19:09 Eversince wrote: What is wrong with Chezy? I don't have a issue with Kmatt, probably asleep, no problem for me. Oats is ok if he explains why he thinks his way he reached his conclusion. That's my problem with, I don't agree with some of what he says. But that does not make him mafia. That just means that I failed to see his line of thought. (Which might make him mafia) I like you. Oat might be mafia indeed. But if he is. He plays it good. Drawing attention and making retarded posts. (Because he knows the answers) Or we are very far from the truth. | ||
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It's posts like this that makes me pause. If you read all Oats post knowing Oats has the answers to the game. He is saying here Palmar is mafia. Just like the following posts: | ||
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On December 13 2017 04:43 Oatsmaster wrote: So because hes the only one seriously playing this game you think hes scum? | ||
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On December 13 2017 04:44 Oatsmaster wrote: What a dumb read | ||
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On December 13 2017 19:15 Eversince wrote: Arya is only in the 'meh' because they came around and seemed super townie and then came back to only point out that people were missing and disappointment in that then. None of which means anything as far as alignment indicative behavioral goes. Which leads to 'meh', why you calling me for this when my meta on this site will include afk, and general disconcern when I have no time? I work 14+ hrs a day..... I will always put life infront of games. I wouldn't of joined if I wasn't going to dedicate time to the game (inactive for how long? xd!) U'll be around when I can be! Then I realize that I've never seen the name before. They probably have no clue. I can forgive this very easily (Even if I get mislynched for it). Yeah. I was a bit sad about arya as well but it's fine. Top town. | ||
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Palmar Chezinu Oats Maybe | ||
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On December 13 2017 19:19 Forumite wrote: Hi Koshi. Is HF town? What is the case on Conversion? Around page 10 there were a lot of accusations towards him, is there any post in particular that started this? HF is unknown but we cant lynch him. He is voting the best case and putting his vote behind lock townies. DF got a case on Conversion. I already typed up some things against him. But best is you read his filter and give us your opinion. If you are in doubt. Check our filters and see if you think we (df and I) are town. If we are. Help us lynch Conversion. | ||
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On December 13 2017 19:19 Eversince wrote: Okm before you go on I have basically no grasp on meta for anyone from here. I don't pay attention to it yet. I don't have time to filter several hundred pages of filters (Bless this site) to figure it out. So I just try to play as 'What is the town motivation for this?' vs 'What is the mafia motivation for this?' and try to despute if it makes more sense way more from one then the other... That's fine. Just try to put in some time and focus on making your thought process clear to the thread. The less time you have, the more you should focus on showing us your total picture of all players in the game and why you think they are mafia or town | ||
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On December 13 2017 19:22 Eversince wrote: Why would HF blame work as an excuse to afk as mafia? This is the man who's fabricated weddings to pass as an excuse to excuse to be absence. 'I have no time because of work. Sorry guys' Seems like to lazy of an excuse for him to have inactively. If that's actually the problem, he'll probably ask for replacement. If not lynch him D2. Never D1. His activity is fine. He is caught up. | ||
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On December 13 2017 19:36 Eversince wrote: @Kosher; I don't think I'm following your Oats> Palmar read. I'm kind of daft; forgive me r.r! Spell it out in a 'you retard' version? Obviously my Palmar town read was a bit tongue in cheeck. Oats reacting on it in capslock makes me think he has the answers to this game already. It's super thin so I dont put too much weight in it. But the capslock "THIS IS A NONSENSE READ" was a bit too serious too fast. | ||
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On December 13 2017 20:05 Eversince wrote: And that's the other problem. Conversion was pushing DF as soft mafia with no reason up until the point Kosher & DF pushed him on it and then he STILL didn't explain what the actual reason to call them mafia was for. And after df pushed him he called df town. Not sure to make of that as well. | ||
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On December 13 2017 20:57 Forumite wrote: Yeah, I know, I'm rereading when I can. We're at a decent size thread allready. On Conversion, I think he's town. I like this post in particular He's not grateful for help, which he kind of needs now, instead he's suspicious because Oats doesn't elaborate why he's defending conversion. Hmm. Maybe. | ||
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On December 13 2017 21:46 Arya321 wrote: Okay fine I will hard claim LightningStrike 😁🤗 | ||
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On December 13 2017 22:38 Arya321 wrote: I will check his filter btw that does remind me ot read df's filter from his last game as well >.> No I didnt. I just said he isnt superbad. I remember him being an ok player and his earlier filter didint do him justice | ||
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On December 13 2017 23:33 VisceraEyes wrote: Koshi lolol You're ridiculous. You come in here and call my play bad. You literally didn't do a fucking thing last game as town. A FUCKING THING. Your opinion of my play means LESS than nothing to me. And I love how you make this whole page of dumb observations about my play and end up on "He could be either thing, mafia or just bad." And I'M the bad one. I just haven't even started trying yet because at the point I'd been playing to, not much had happened. What's your excuse? Euuhm. I didnt mean it the way you are taking it. | ||
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On December 13 2017 23:44 VisceraEyes wrote: Kmatt Grackaroni Conversion Ayra321 prphlz Eversince DarthFoley Forumite Koshi Oatsmaster Holyflare Palmar This is approximately where I stand. I don't think I missed anyone. I honestly still don't have any scumreads until I see some flips or whatever, I still kinda think Oats is mafia based on his lack of giving shits and I'm really confused by Koshi's utter hatred of my playstyle. But it's whatever. I won't lynch anyone that's green and I would lynch anyone that's black. I'm in the process of narrowing it down to who I actually prefer to lynch now. The greens are fine xcept conversion. | ||
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On December 14 2017 00:03 prplhz wrote: Why does Joshi think he's a mafia god? Did he improve a lot on the last year or so? 2017 was my year. End 2016 as well. | ||
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On December 14 2017 00:36 Forumite wrote: Would you mind elaborating? It´s not scummy to call me mafia but you´ve been quiet for a while and I just started throwing suspicion on Oats who´s gotten a few votes allready. Are you defending Oats, or are you setting up for an easy lynch on me D2? This guy is top town Palmar | ||
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On December 14 2017 01:04 Kmatt wrote: Just caught up and was wondering that myself. Need to make a status update. @VE and quoted people. I will join you on Oats if Conversion is not lynched. But I think Conversion is still wayyyyy more likely mafia. Oats pulled mpre attention to him than Conversion. Conversion almost solely tries to push away attention. | ||
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On December 14 2017 01:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Fantastic. I can go to bed I think. I'd really feel safer if LS were on the Oatsmaster wagon and I would really like if Koshi were too. And that's probably going to be a problem because Koshi keeps trying to fite LS. W0t? | ||
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On December 13 2017 19:19 Koshi wrote: Conversion Palmar Chezinu Oats Maybe Well 6 hours ago | ||
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On December 14 2017 01:44 Koshi wrote: Palmar is more likely mafia now. This is true. | ||
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On December 14 2017 01:49 Kmatt wrote: I was thinking between Palmar and Forumite one of them is scum. I think I can get behind Palmar at this point, Forumite being town makes a lot more sense to me. I agree so much! | ||
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On December 14 2017 02:04 Grackaroni wrote: Ok I did a quick reread of Conversion's scum play in the last newbie. I think the difference between his play in that game and in this game is really night and day. Do a quick read for yourself. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/527379-newbie-student-mafia-xxvii?user=Conversion In that game his reads are a lot more indecisive. He gives a list of wishy washy reads and whenever he gives a read on somebody that isn't a town read he adds a qualifier for why his read may be wrong. In this game he calls out things that he doesn't like about DF, Forumite's and Arya's play right off the bat without reservation. I think the chances of Conversion being scum are really quite low. Hmm. Does that mean I am bad? | ||
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On December 14 2017 03:08 Grackaroni wrote: Ok I'm out of time and was just barely able to finish reading the thread. I really don't like that Palmar just implicitly assumed that none of DF/Koshi/Conversion are scum as a way of justifying a scum read on Forumite in the most round about way possible. I'm surprised that nobody commented on HF's push on LS and that HF is less phased by being ignored than he has been so far. I think Palmar is a better lynch than Oatsmaster but I don't think Oatsmaster is a bad lynch either. I'm going to leave my vote on Palmar. | ||
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Pretty sure he is mafia still. | ||
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On December 14 2017 04:11 Conversion wrote: go convince enough people to lynch me just to be wrong then? I'll pass on that. There has to be one town in my list. | ||
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It's not that I don't believe in the Oats lynch. He is a fine lynch. | ||
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Palmar/Conversion/Oats is all 3 fine for me. | ||
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Especially because those 3 are not impossible mafia together. And still have Chez benched. Good stuff. I am proud of you guys. | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:23 darthfoley wrote: So i'm a lost boy for pushing the person I want to lynch, who you have said many times still has a high chance of flipping mafia? Your apathy towards this lynch is bad or mafia. Maybe bad mafia lol /shrug | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:28 darthfoley wrote: What I don't understand is if Conversion is town, why mafia really didn't try to hammer him at all? Even if Koshi or HF is mafia, there was no effort at all to push the lynch or get people on board. This was part of the reason that I held my vote. I wanted to see if the wagon gained steam, and it really didn't. In fact, it encountered pretty severe backlash and Oats/Palmar/Forumite became a huge thing. Conversion was really relegated to the backseat. Koshi especially hasn't given a flying fuck to push Conversion. I'm concerned as to why Sadly you can't read. So bad. | ||
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That's how we roll. Now. I still stick to my 4 names. But why were you so mad df? I just don't understand. You are obvious town. But still so angry. I said a million times I am fine with this lynch because we are lynching the 3 people I think are mafia. Kinda knew it seeing Oats awake so late :D | ||
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Ah. Still. Without that information I still knew. | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:40 darthfoley wrote: This is actually quite interesting. Whoever said Oats was AFK'ing not to implicate his partners was diggity right. I'll have to do some rereading later tonight Why? There is Palmar off wagon who tried to divert lynch. Conversion who jumped as 5th on Oats. Oats who only at the very end when he knew he was lynched jumped on Conversion. (why he didn't vote Conversion earlier but just lurked is interesting.) Chezinu is afk. and off wagon. The list stands. It's ez. | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:42 darthfoley wrote: I'm mad because this dude who moans 24/7 about how bad he is and cry cry cry had the audacity to claim the my reading comprehension was laughably bad. You of all people should know how aggravating it is to have people question your alpha status Tis true. But I was so nice to you all the time. And you keep calling me mafia With Oats lynched and on my list. And you thinking Conversion is mafia and me on Conversion. Why? We got such similar reads. | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:44 Conversion wrote: actually I don't really want to play this game until I don't have to talk to any of you 3 tbh DF is aggravating me more than Koshi is which is rare I like my steak rare. #TrueStory #MeToo | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:44 Conversion wrote: actually I don't really want to play this game until I don't have to talk to any of you 3 tbh DF is aggravating me more than Koshi is which is rare If you are town this is all very unfortunate for you. You must agree it is weird both Palmar and Oats refuse to vote you. Even push away your wagon. | ||
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On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote: I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true. His filter is basically empty. Palmar longest post. Probably cuz teammates. | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:50 darthfoley wrote: Tbf Koshi didn't try at all and I didn't have time. Tis true. But let him have it. If he is town we gave him a hard time. And with Palmar being so mafia. His odds of being mafia are lessening. Mathwise. | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:52 prplhz wrote: Joshi did nothing for this lynch. I respectfully disagree. | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:52 darthfoley wrote: You are probably not mafia. I don't understand why mafia didn't try to divert off of Roleblocker!Oats though. Unless Conversion is godfather, but godfather isn't even that good tbh Palmar tried. Conversion cant and had his hands full. Chez afkmaster. | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:53 prplhz wrote: He wrote a long ass case on Forumite, you can't have missed that. Oh. I meant snipey 1 liner posts he loves to make. Look up the quote in his filter and compare. | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:54 Conversion wrote: I am town. I'm still going to play. I just kept my drama queen bitching to that post if we're going by the logic of defend obvious townie because I'm mafia and I know who's town, Palmar/Forumite/Oats/Grack are four people who defended me. Palmar backed off after Koshi, called me null. Forumite said I wasn't scum, not entirely sure if he called me town. Grack called me pretty obviously town and compared my scum filter from newbie game. Oats said DF's case is bad and then died with no follow up Oats dies, flips scum. Palmar/Forumite/Grack. I highly doubt all 3 mafia would hedge and try to defend me. that seems weird. I'm going to treat Forumite as confirmed town right now because having Oats die is just dumb. He could have sheeped and gotten me lynched instead. Palmar/Grack. Both voted off wagon. I'd like to believe this is 50/50 Mafia/Town. in this current situation I like Palmar lynch more because he voted, at this point in time, my confirmed townie and just AFKed. If we're going by 50/50 logic there still is at least another mafia. maybe 2? idk how 14 man setups work. this I'm going to have to work for, and I still don't like Eversince randomly jumping on Oats train with a disconnect in their filter and how he/she landed on oats. Most likely it's someone in HF/Koshi/DF. This is a good place to start. I'll add Ever in there because previous reason. I can't read these three as they all have points that make them town in my eyes, but also scummy, so I'd like someone to discuss with me on who the remaining 2 scum might be Chezinu is in this game. | ||
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On December 14 2017 01:44 Koshi wrote: Palmar Chezinu Oats also still possible. That is the only reason I am thinking about moving my vote from Conversion. | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:55 prplhz wrote: The only thing you did was say "you guys can vote for oats if you want, I'm going for Palmer" after having pushed conversion all day You forget all the townreads I pushed in this game. The towncircles I made. The list I created 12 hours ago with 3 mafia and 1 townie. | ||
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On December 14 2017 05:57 prplhz wrote: This lynch notably just kind of happened though. On December 14 2017 04:55 Koshi wrote: And the fact I am town and this entire town PoEs on these 3 is amazing. Especially because those 3 are not impossible mafia together. And still have Chez benched. Good stuff. I am proud of you guys. | ||
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On December 14 2017 06:21 darthfoley wrote: Here's where I am: confused. Ignoring your alignment for a second, I'm not sure why there wasn't a legitimate counter wagon against Oats. He was a strong role. I look to either Koshi or HF. Both of them are strong willed enough to try and push a Conversion lynch down town's throats if they're mafia with Oats. They also have an ally in me who has shown some flashes of being able to sway lynches in the past. Neither of them try. Koshi especially seems content just sitting back. Their play doesn't make sense from mafia POV. The only strong willed player who seemingly tried to divert any attention away from Oats was Palmar with his case on Forumite. It wasn't a bad case, but mafia!Palmar can make good cases. I think Oats/Palmar/+1 bandwagoner or off wagon makes sense. There is a world where you and Oats are both mafia and mafia are just kinda fucked altogether, but I think the first scenario I laid out is more likely. See. So good. | ||
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I pushed the idea he was town in the thread. Oh well. | ||
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On December 14 2017 06:33 prplhz wrote: I think it's not as clear as you say in your big post. The conversion lynch was pushed hard but never gained traction. So I don't think it makes sense to say scum could have gone for him instead. Same about Forumite. I think this lynch just kind of happened and no one really knows why. I feel like the game is not just following Joshis list. bad feels. | ||
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On December 13 2017 19:16 Koshi wrote: It's posts like this that makes me pause. If you read all Oats post knowing Oats has the answers to the game. He is saying here Palmar is mafia. Just like the following posts: | ||
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On December 13 2017 19:47 Koshi wrote: Obviously my Palmar town read was a bit tongue in cheeck. Oats reacting on it in capslock makes me think he has the answers to this game already. It's super thin so I dont put too much weight in it. But the capslock "THIS IS A NONSENSE READ" was a bit too serious too fast. | ||
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On December 14 2017 09:52 Conversion wrote: I also remember you calling me mafia for the entirety of day 1 I am quite proud of that | ||
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On December 14 2017 21:33 Eversince wrote: I never did scum read Oats over you. I only ever said he was 'bleh' and that was what Oats could be either way (Of he's un-involved............. He's un-involved. Period.) Reading on this page the difference in approach from Eversince en Conversion is hilarious. Eversince is so town in how (s)he speaks. Conversion stays scared and mysterious. The thing I quoted is just the last post. I already forgot what it said. So dont pay attention to it. I wonder if Conversion knew Oats was gonne flip mafia and is pushing eversince on that here. Well it seems like he is claiming something is suslicious while it isnt. I dont fully understand it though. | ||
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On December 14 2017 21:48 Eversince wrote: This night hasn't developed into anything. It's developed into a claim game of 'what bullshit can I get away with'. I've been around over two years now. I don't play much here but this night is typical 'TL stuff that I will continue to ignore' Fun is not allowed? | ||
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On December 14 2017 21:56 Eversince wrote: Why, if I or Koshi, or DF, not push on you if we are mafia and you are town? You are basically claiming we either are mafia with you're, or that mafia just let their RB get lynched for no reason. Mafia are dumbasses most of the time and dont care about roles. Sometimes they dont even speak in the qt. So dont assume things based on who protected who. Just saying. Random fun fact. | ||
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On December 14 2017 22:06 Eversince wrote: You look bad, Palmar looks bad, Grack looks bad, A bunch of lower volume guys look iffy (I know I can't really complain right? xd!) I think Koshi, DF, VE look alright and I'll have to do a lot of filter diving tomorrow. I should have some free time tomorrow because it's one of my shorter shifts. But that still won't be until after very late for most people. No one put a ton of pressure on Oats though. So it's hard to put lines between lines of 'this person defending Oats' vs 'this person calling Oats on one liners everywhere and nothing else'. Oats's done that plenty of times to make this flip really problematic for me and I haven't had the time to process much... Life must be good if the people off the mafia lynch look the best. | ||
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On December 15 2017 00:02 Palmar wrote: also I'm sure koshi the medic will protect me. Nope. I think I will protect VE. | ||
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VE for bringing steam. Prplhz LS Conversion all 3 on the kred places. 1 is mafia maybe. But I think maybe not. Eversince supertown. And the last guy I forgot. | ||
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But not that I spoiled that maybe not. | ||
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But that is so unlikely my brain disregarded it | ||
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On December 15 2017 00:12 Palmar wrote: think I'm checking you koshi Haha. Checkmate. At least you are still funny when you are mafia. Also mean. But sometimes funny. | ||
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On December 14 2017 02:29 Grackaroni wrote: It probably makes one of HF/DF mafia more likely. This was an extremely bad post. But dnu if he is mafia. It is a good name to bring up though. I like that | ||
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On December 14 2017 02:49 Grackaroni wrote: It's just from the main pushers of your lynch being Koshi/DF/HF and thinking that Koshi is town. So bad. So bad. | ||
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On December 15 2017 00:36 Conversion wrote: the only way Koshi is going to townread me is if I die and flip green. doubt he'll believe a cop check with two serious claims Not true. I can change my view quickly. Palmar pointing out Grack was big. | ||
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On December 15 2017 00:40 Conversion wrote: last post wasn't made to sound dramatic, just that koshi has very strong conviction in his list so the moment one of his 4 flips town that's not me, I'll instantly be in red territory again My list got bigger | ||
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On December 15 2017 00:39 Arya321 wrote: No worries I think I could talk sense to him. Never be adraid to fail. Failure is only a stepping stone to improvement. | ||
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On December 15 2017 00:47 Conversion wrote: if I'm being annoying your list stayed the same size. you just replaced oats with someone else I think Grack Thats not how you math. | ||
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On December 15 2017 05:53 Conversion wrote: I'm having the biggest shit eating grin right now HF. I cannot wait to rub it in your face on how wrong you are on thinking I am scu. at least Koshi doesn't want to lynch me yet even though he thinks I'm scum/disappointing town/whatever Koshi thinks I added Grack beforw he died. So out of my list 2 mafia flipped. 0 townies. But my list is now 3 names with 1 mafia. | ||
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On December 15 2017 12:29 Arya321 wrote: Man it's so quiet in here we can't just sit here thumbling our thumbs on this we still got work to do -.- @Everyone but HF and Palmar: Do you guys believe Palmar's claim or HF's thing saying the hosts told him that it's a normal setup despite being a closed setup? Both are liars but Palmar is mafia. | ||
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On December 07 2017 02:15 Damdred wrote: Setup: Closed setup, any number of roles can be present as long as they fall within criteria. Hint: The criteria will be normal type roles that would generally be in normal games. Can you guys read the hint | ||
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The whisperer is obviously fake. The cop probably as well. Game is probably vig due to 14 players and not 13. Protection role or detective role (or both with jailer) Vs 3 mafia | ||
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Or mafia vig shot mafia. Would be impressive. | ||
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Maybe this game has a town and mafia vig. And the mafia vig got protected. Maaaybe.... | ||
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I think Palmar needs to go. After that... If Palmar isnt mafia he will help us. But he is mafia. | ||
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On December 15 2017 15:06 Conversion wrote: I’m going to bed. goodnight Good night. Dobt let mafia (aka Palmar) kill you in your sleep. | ||
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Town Vig Veteran/doc/jailer 9 vanilla VS Roleblocker Godfather Mafia Vig But I worry for the mafia vig. | ||
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On December 14 2017 06:21 darthfoley wrote: I think Oats/Palmar/+1 bandwagoner or off wagon makes sense. There is a world where you and Oats are both mafia and mafia are just kinda fucked altogether, but I think the first scenario I laid out is more likely. That part was good. I had to delete a lot of words though. | ||
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On December 15 2017 21:10 Forumite wrote: 3rd Party? Like Serial Killer or Survivor. Or ninjas if you ever played with those. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:02 VisceraEyes wrote: OMG did Damdred put a fucking Jester in the game? I can't tell you how exceedingly boring that would be. ofc not | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:21 Eversince wrote: Not what I said, I asked what win con for SK was. Because I wanted to know how to enter the thread. No one got back to me but I have limited time r.r wincon for sk is to remain alive as only one. fml. Still lynching Palmar but you should never have claimed. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:24 Palmar wrote: 1st of all I don't have a gun. If I do have a gun and am not town, why would I shoot lynchbait low volume posters? Like think really, really hard about the scenario you're creating (Palmar is 3p SK) and ask yourself, why wouldn't I have shot one of the people who actually both scumread me and have the clout to get me lynched (Like Koshi). You know that my policy as mafia is to shoot the people I believe can cause me problems. I almost never wifom shoot (and if I do I shoot my teammates or something hilariously theatrical like that). Whoever shot Grack was shooting mafia. Not a threat. There is no player in the entire game who can possibly claim that Grack is the biggest threat to him. In order for me to 3rd party all the following easily disprovable points have to be true
Do you honestly think that 3p Palmar sat down and thought to himself "I can surely argue Koshi or HF or VE or prplhz into the grave, but this Grack fella scares the shit out of me"? Use brain please. Lynch mafia, not townies you're afraid of. I think you are mafia. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Why is Palmar attacking players personally? It's making me uncomfortable. Because he is mafia. And SK killed one of his friends. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:29 VisceraEyes wrote: And I don't want a fucking Jester to win either. He is not Jester... It isn't a normal TL role. There hasn't been a jester in TL for at least 5 years. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:35 VisceraEyes wrote: Feel free to try and find the last mafia Palmar, that's what a town Palmar does. If I agree with you then I'll vote them with you. I promise. With 2 anti town roles Palmar is without doubt the right lynch today. I think his list contains the SK maybe. That makes more sense why he adds forumite. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:37 Eversince wrote: I don't think there is a SK. I tracked HF because he;s just to good to be as 'meh' as I found him. He survived buy didn't go to anyone and OATS/Grack are now dead. So unless mafia have a 5'th to carry dp, HF is not mafia. Somebody shot mafia this night. Maybe we need to read Grack his filter. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:37 Eversince wrote: I don't think there is a SK. I tracked HF because he;s just to good to be as 'meh' as I found him. He survived buy didn't go to anyone and OATS/Grack are now dead. So unless mafia have a 5'th to carry dp, HF is not mafia. 4 vs 10 is not a balanced setup. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:40 VisceraEyes wrote: 10v3v1 is balance af True. It is another SK game. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:41 Palmar wrote: If your claim is true, Grack is 100% a godfather that avoids all detection (cop/track/watch) and thus he was the one delivering the kill last night. So it says nothing about hf. If KP is delivered and mafia has a godfather that can deliver them safely, there is no way they'd ever not send that guy with the kill. It says HF is not the SK. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:42 VisceraEyes wrote: GF isn't a ninja, the last mafia is either goon or ninja. Or rolecop/tracker. To find the SK. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:43 Palmar wrote: No it doesn't, his conclusion is that HF is not mafia, which cannot be concluded from the information at hand. I know. The conclusion is my own. I am not worried about a tracker in an SK game. The guy is town. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:44 Palmar wrote: I am acting like town, I'm literally the only person in here acting like town. On one hand we have a bunch of people who are voting me for literally no reason, and on the other we have me arguing we should be finding the last mafia, AND contributing to actually figuring out who the last mafia is. It should be obvious that yesterday I already PoE'ed you mafia. | ||
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On December 15 2017 22:58 VisceraEyes wrote: I guess you're at 3214 Koshi? Maybe. 2314 isn't bad either. Grack was also hinting at Palmar so I can see Palmar kill Grack as SK. Leaving stronger townies to help him find mafia. I don't really know. | ||
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On December 15 2017 23:03 Eversince wrote: I'm so tired, confused and want to sleep I could cry r.r Go sleep lol. This game is a shitfest and we just lynch and pray. | ||
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On December 15 2017 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I said, the evidence points to them trying not to bus. I can see a world where Grack leaves his vote on his partner all game if I squint, but it's really really blurry man. There is no evidence for that I think. You mean experience? Maybe. Palmar wasn't going to get lynched and Grack isn't the best mafia player I think. He was quite obvious mafia when I opened his filter. So maybe distancing etc. Problem is there is an SK I think. Palmar does not play like this as town. | ||
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On December 15 2017 23:07 Palmar wrote: Because logic dictates that Grack casually mentioning me once in his completely no-impact filter would have made me panic and shoot him instead of killing the fuck out of someone like you who was screaming for my death at the top of your lungs and has a terrible history of never, ever changing opinions on me. Sure koshi, good think right there. Well thunk. Yes. That is why I don't understand df died. But your play man.. your play... I hope that if you are town, you are vig, so there is no SK. I am somewhat hesitant to believe there are 2 games in a row with an SK. That is your saving grace. But I don't like your scumlist at all. If it isn't you. I want to look at Chez now. Conversion looks so doom and gloom the entire game... I don't know. | ||
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On December 15 2017 23:14 VisceraEyes wrote: I think you right Ever, but I'm going to meditate. Palmar's story is well crafted and it's believable. He could be telling the truth. He isn't. We need to lynch him. The tracer claim does not make sense with another blue vig. Way too many dt roles. | ||
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On December 15 2017 23:17 Palmar wrote: There are literally 3 roleclaims in the game you imbecile. 1) Me vigilant 2) ES tracker 3) (and this one is probably fake) VE Medic Myeah but vigi + tracker is dumb. | ||
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When you read "vigilante" you always assume 1 shot. I mean come on.... So then you are lying... The vig claim is fine but all your shit before that makes it more likely that you are just doing random things to survive. If you were really vig the random things before would have a purpose. And it would not be multishot. Because that is bullshit. I admit this entire story is well crafted. | ||
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On December 15 2017 23:37 prplhz wrote: I know your ego is taking a major blow here but just deal with it and move on Koshi. If he is vig. We just have to deal with 1 mafia. Still fine. | ||
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On December 15 2017 23:33 prplhz wrote: How exactly does SK work in this game? If he is multishot, he's way too dangerous for town. If he's single shot, he doesn't shoot Grackaroni on n1. Are you claiming SK prplhz? lol | ||
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On December 16 2017 07:22 prplhz wrote: Now can anybody tell me why the SK claimed cop for no reason? The problem with this claim is that it was so fake that no one believed in it except some new players so it was really just for the purpose of kind of doing whatever, having fun, and possibly drawing a night kill from some panicking scum. This is just not very scum. Now he's claiming vig which fits alright. Any setup speculation that conclusively proves that we have an SK is just wildly speculative and probably wrong. I gotta say I don't particularly get this thing with the single/multi-shot. What exactly was that about? Cuz he is mafia? | ||
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The idea there is an sk was fabricated by myself. It is more likely there is none. VE is not doc. Palmar is not mafia. | ||
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On December 16 2017 20:46 Forumite wrote: No, even a townie up for the lynch should hunt scum, either to help the next day or provide a secondary lynch that we might consider. 7 people think you are scum, we're fine with waiting for the lynch after what you did with claiming during N1 and D2. And you go back to your old OMGUS-case, accusing me because I voted for you early D1. Wow, such scumhunting. Please find another lynch. Even in your world there is more anti town than Palmar. Look for that person pls. | ||
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Dont lynch the only (other) blue. | ||
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On December 17 2017 03:32 Arya321 wrote: I blaming my lack of sleep from finals week I trying to catch up on sleep. Anyways Koshi since you are here who would you lynch outside of Palmar? I dont know really. Chez I think. | ||
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I like all other people. I dont believe Forumite would start the Oats wagon. And I read him town d1. prplhz draws so much attention to himself. Kmatt I dont know anymore but I thought he was town. All others are like superobvious town | ||
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It's ok. Just got to kill 1 mafia. Impressive we lynched the vigi who shot mafia. | ||
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On December 17 2017 10:50 Chezinu wrote: Tried giving defense for you Palmar with old game reference. It's sad to see people bring back the policy lynch. Koshi why.. koshi why!!! w0t? Guess we lynch you tomorrow. | ||
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On December 18 2017 11:04 Kmatt wrote: Sorry I was busy for most of today and haven't gotten to read, catching up now. I can understand Eversince taking the hit, even though Doc!Koshi should have been on that shit (???), but who even shoots HolyFlare? He's as afk as any scum this game, and possibly the only one more hell-bent on lynching Palmar than I was. Only think HF said of note was that he thought prplhz was mafia, but didn't live to explain why. I am a doc? | ||
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Lynch Chez. I agree this was more likely a strongarm shot. I am not dieing so I am most likely townreading the last mafia but I dont know. | ||
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On December 18 2017 21:29 prplhz wrote: Joshi why is forumute town? He started the wagon on Oats. I shall reread how he did that later. | ||
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On December 18 2017 23:41 Forumite wrote: Thanks for the meta list but I was wondering about the read VE has on you. 10 games, wow. But since you answered, not wanting to waste the night phase is not a defence. Posting about yourself only help if you are under attack and need to derail a town lynch,a usefull use of the night would be either rereading filters quietly or discussing scum. Maybe blues. You insisting on being confirmed town makes no sense He is not mafia. He did it to help you. | ||
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On December 18 2017 23:33 prplhz wrote: Strong arm kills two people? Strong arm is an extra shot. Hosts sometimes give them to mafia to prevent blues from claiming. We didnt know this but ok. Kp this night is most likely mafia kp and mafia strongarmshot. | ||
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Oh I said that? I forgot. I retract that claim. | ||
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And if you dont know who to vote. Go for Chez. | ||
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I dont believe he is mafia. I dont see it. | ||
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Yesterday he was right though. And I dont know if that makes him mafia. Problem is that he was alone in his team so as long as the lynch didnt land on him he would be fine. Even better if Palmar was the SK after all. So yeah. Not a big fan of prplhz atm. | ||
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Why not prplhz? | ||
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So the list is chez prplhz conversion for me. Me not dieing might point to prplhz. Dnu. | ||
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He was wrong on Oats before flip. Wrong on Palmar. So if Conversion os town. What is left? Nothing. | ||
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But either you play EXTREMELY scummy as town. Or you are just mafia. How can you PoE Kmatt and then he is suddenly town? Again both times without any justification. (to progress the thread) And there are many many instances in your filter like that. | ||
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On December 17 2017 03:16 Conversion wrote: explain to me why Forumite wouldn't have just lynched me if he was mafia. both of you This question reads as such BS because you have called forumite 10 times mafia before this post. Like so fucking many times. It's not normal that you then defend him in a way it looks others look bad for calling him mafia. On December 16 2017 10:03 Conversion wrote: here’s my problem palmar. I can’t see where prphlz is coming from when he’s calling you town. no one forced you to do this claiming shit and you placed this situation on yourself, first by ignoring it with your split personality joke and then doing weird claims and devolving this entire day into figuring dumb claims out so let’s speak. if Forumite is mafia, you’re saying mafia bussed their roleblocker and looked to distance from me by defending me. now why would this make sense? why would they defend me to get their roleblocker lynched? so MANY MANY words to say fucking nothing. "I understand prplhz his point but you did dumb fucking shit but please explain to me why forumite is mafia" is the short version. | ||
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Conversion did NOT call forumite mafia before asking that question. So that was wrong. | ||
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BUT He never called forumite anything while talking to Palmar. Like full neutral. | ||
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Also removing him is fine. He is a lynch either today or in the next few cycles. Inevitable now. | ||
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On December 19 2017 04:16 Conversion wrote: ya i guess i play pretty scummy as town so that probably throws a bone in your lynch the objectively worst town player because he has to be mafia plan I"ll try to look past it and keep asking your opinion. But if I don't see townieness at some point I am goint to lynch you. Like fucking Palmar. I knew he was town in the end but I was unable to change it. Well I knew it many many hours before but it didn't matter. Oh well. Life is life. | ||
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On December 19 2017 04:17 Conversion wrote: honsetly though w/e if you're just gonna go PoE with your list I will jsut join you along this ride and you can win/lose based on how correct urconviction is gl Well you can't blame me for lynching what I believe. Like... I think forumite for example made decent posts and is less likely mafia than you are. That's what I think based on reading both filters and considering it. Chez is for me the only one who hasn't showed any colours. And he will die for it. After that it is open season and we will need to read filters and make coherent cases. The last mafia is obvious if you know it. As always. If you know it you see it. But I don't see it atm. Only you, Chez and prplhz. for me atm. | ||
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Like why do you ask where VE is? The guy is obvious town. Who cares if he is afk. It is obvious already. | ||
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Maybe this game not. Maybe in this game I will be outplayed. Maybe. | ||
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On December 20 2017 00:12 Forumite wrote: Koshi, I'd like to lynch Conversion today, will you get on board? Conversion was the alternative to Oats, and everyone was surprised scum "allowed" us to lynch one of them without a fight. GM put my chez-vote on koshi, wat? ##Unvote ##Vote Conversion That logic applies to Chez as well. He wouldn't do shit either. But Conversion makes more sense with the DF kill. My list is my list. | ||
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On December 20 2017 01:41 Conversion wrote: actually if I was mafia you’d be dead first maybe. my vote is on Chez. | ||
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With palmer I couldn't. I asked town. They didn't move. The End. | ||
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Kill Chez. It points towards the weird kills as well potentially. Because he isnt reading. | ||
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If Chez flips I would look more to Kmatt and prplhz. That is were I am atm. But Chez HAS TO FLIP. Town needs this flip. | ||
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On December 20 2017 03:27 Arya321 wrote: HF isn't a weird kill? Plenty of us know he is a good player by reputation. Eversince had claimed blue so that why she died. DF was townread by others???? These aren't weird kills Koshi wake up..... It is a "weird" kill. HF was a dorment potentially good player. But he wasnt threatening at all to the last mafia. | ||
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WHY THE FUCJ IS THAT TRUE???????????????????? WHY WOULD HF CARRIED THE KP THAT NIGHT????? | ||
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On December 20 2017 03:34 Arya321 wrote: Tbh though if we do have to decide Conversion vs Chez most likely chez but knowing chez is a hard to read player and Day 1 I did just remember I had df vs conversion scum vs town still kinda split there. Hmmmm why did I drop that???? Stuck now. Well your reads like that are often really good. It's also one of your towntells. Pls give me Chez today. Tomorrow if chez is town we will have a real battle. Conversion had a bad day 1 and maybe he is mafia. But we need to do the "right" thing here and lynch the person who doesnt show his alignment. Which is Chez. Maybe he is town. But he needs to go. | ||
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On December 20 2017 03:42 Arya321 wrote: Because he was the townread scum player if he was scum? So wifom. So wifom. | ||
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I didnt read last 3 pages yet | ||
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##Vote: Conversion Good stuff VE. I trust in the list. I shouldnt be alive though. Well there is 1 reason. Blah. | ||
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On December 22 2017 14:09 Arya321 wrote: Everyone is so silent this Day Phase how come people don't want to talk? Only me and Conversion were the only ones doing extensive talking honestly. We cant do much more. Mafia is hiding and did well. Eversince shouldnt have claimed. We shouldnt hav lynched Palmar. Etc etc. Lynch conversion No lynch Final 3 | ||
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On December 22 2017 14:38 Kmatt wrote: By a combination of PoE and my gut the list I would lynch down is: prphlz>VisceraEyes>Koshi>Conversion>Ayra Ordinarily Conversion would be #1 or #2 for me, but the day one shenanigans just don't add up unless mafia were hell-bent on bussing for some reason. I also like this post a lot. | ||
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Prplhz maybe for the convintion about Palmar. Havent seen him that convicinced about scumreads. | ||
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Last time I talked about final 3 I got lynched. So... | ||
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On December 23 2017 01:58 Arya321 wrote: I think he was scumreading or least wants to lynch Kmatt? He talked about it with me when I asked people who they wanted for the lynch. Where is his vote? And why was he bitching while we were sitting on Kmatt? Game would end if he added vote. But instead he whines that the game will continue... | ||
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All my reads xcept Chez have been right. But it was not good enough this game. Well if Conversion is mafia my game was ok. D1 was salvaged at least. | ||
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On December 23 2017 02:16 Arya321 wrote: Tbh though if Conversion is mafia we had a good Day 1 with 2 mafias up for lynch Day 1. I believe in us! | ||
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I remember him different. I think he is pretending at this point. | ||
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My list is broken. | ||
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It is your time to shime LS. I will sheep you. | ||
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I don't think it is VE. If he is. I am outplayed by him on D1. Rest of the days he kinda sucked but w.e. Maybe because he is mafia and lost 2 teammates. Also what doesn't speak for VE is that he is fine with the Status quo. We are misslynching time after time and he is doing nothing. So yeah. Maybe it is him. | ||
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On December 22 2017 14:38 Kmatt wrote: By a combination of PoE and my gut the list I would lynch down is: prphlz>VisceraEyes>Koshi>Conversion>Ayra Ordinarily Conversion would be #1 or #2 for me, but the day one shenanigans just don't add up unless mafia were hell-bent on bussing for some reason. On December 24 2017 14:53 Kmatt wrote: I can see myself voting prphlz or VE next cycle. Assuming no one contests Koshi's claim (which would be suicidal at this point), those two are at the top of my list. Both these posts are kinda ok. Shows he is still solving the game and is not afraid to go into lylo making enemies if he is mafia. | ||
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##unvote ##Vote VE Maybe explains the weird kills because he was never under pressure. And I tr him hard d1 | ||
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##Vote prplhz No I don't see it. He played very well as mafia D1 and D2 on the palmar lynch. | ||
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On December 14 2017 01:07 prplhz wrote: Okay VisceraEyes is town and we just agree on Oatsmaster and it's really just that simple. ##Vote Oatsmaster Not changing that vote, that was impossible to write on a phone. On December 16 2017 08:50 prplhz wrote: Eh this mafia Palmar hiding behind SK idea is just too messed up and it's the most plausible explanation of Palmar being scum. | ||
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gl hf bois. I hope you believe me LS. But if you think otherwise tomorrow pls do what you think is right :D. @Kmatt. Never vote LS pls. Never do it. He is town. 100% certain. | ||
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Well wifom or not. Here we go. | ||
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If you are town I am sorry. I have many reasons to think you are mafia. They might be false. | ||
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My list was bad. Meh. prplhz played a good d1 imo. But after the xonversion kill he was the only one left. Killing VE was a mistake we could make. Killing Palmar was big lolz. I knew it at the end but d2 was pretty awrsome. | ||
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On December 31 2017 05:40 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways it was a fun game I wont be able to play till May of next year due to getting my Associates of Arts degree in May so I still need to focus on college till I get it. Taking Calc 1, Organic Chem 1 for 2 heavy load courses with some light load but I need to be focused. Hope you guys have a fun time playing TL mafia! You played very well this game btw. There was no doubt in my mind you were town this entire game. Dont undwrstand younwerent killed before forumite. | ||
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On December 31 2017 10:02 Kmatt wrote: Also what's a "wandering townie"? Google gave me nothing Unaware Miller. He visits a person each night but doesnt know it himself. | ||
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