[M][N] Heroes of the Storm Mafia

On October 31 2017 04:40 Tictock wrote:
I'll /in to help this get started soon.

I will be the obligatory afk'er. ( I still work 70 hour weeks).

Feel free to give my slot away if anyone else wants to play, but I can at least keep the slot warm.

On November 01 2017 07:45 Conversion wrote:


we’re just ‘avin a blast mate. how are you?

On November 01 2017 11:43 Conversion wrote:


So what are your thoughts on me getting triggered?

I especially liked DF's posts on Ruxx and his response to being questioned. What's your thoughts on that?

On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:


I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about.

Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary

Let me break down the bolded sentence for you
1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game
2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential
3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off?
4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy.

So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger

[B]On November 01 2017 09:20 ruXxar wrote:


Also, how is his read soft?
He straight up called shockey mafia, voted for him and asked people to follow him.

On November 01 2017 12:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
And I won't like I at first thought Ruxxar could of been mafia, but after looking into DF, and Damerian post history, I prefer Ruxxar and DF as likely town.

On November 01 2017 12:37 Tictock wrote:
Humm, Shokey's more recent posts are ok, but I'm not a fan of the "I play like lynchbait to catch scum" defense.

Especially when he's apparently abandoning that strategy as soon as the pressure is starting to build.

Still the best early vote imo.

On November 01 2017 13:13 darthfoley wrote:


Can you explain your thought process here? Why did you change your mind on Ruxxar? You make it sound like looking at my filter and Damerion's filter made you think Ruxxar was town, even though I've argued the opposite. Also, why does Damerion's post history help determine Ruxxar's alignment?

On November 01 2017 13:07 darthfoley wrote:


Explaining why ruxxar's post is lame as hell and non-committal to the utmost. It's rather obvious what I was doing. Take your attitude elsewhere

On November 01 2017 14:55 Oatsmaster wrote:

what are you saying here?
That darth is calling me scum and we could do less of that?
or that darth calling me scum is scummy and we could do less of that?

On November 01 2017 21:32 Conversion wrote:


are you saying df is not scum for posting?? I’m confused as well

On November 01 2017 13:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:



It's getting pretty late and I don't want to butcher my reasoning again but I'll get to it early morning.

On November 01 2017 16:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah hes basically saying he is playing bad on purpose
also random rux defence

On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really

On November 02 2017 00:47 Tictock wrote:


Why does HF not doing anything make Damer Town?

On November 02 2017 01:24 Conversion wrote:


Here, I'll make it easy for you.

How is this quote in any relevant way making people decide between you are me? I'm trying to explain to someone why I'm not that bad of a lynch to push to question happykrogan and ruxxar's point on DF's posts. I'm actually confused as to how you took the context of this post, and are calling it an attempt to make a play between you and me.

Also, what was the point of your inane call out that I got triggered? Is this because you somehow mistakenly are believing that the context of which I made this post is an attempt to make people lynch you over me?

On November 02 2017 01:36 Oatsmaster wrote:

I mean, df was talking directely to me and calling my post about his post about rux lame so maybe you should read before replying.

On November 01 2017 13:07 darthfoley wrote:


[b]Explaining why ruxxar's post is lame as hell and non-committal to the utmost. It's rather obvious what I was doing. Take your attitude elsewhere

On November 02 2017 01:43 Conversion wrote:


You are literally taking my post, which said you are THE thread sentiment, and trying to tell me that I said you are THE ONLY thread sentiment. You don't get to fit my words into your narrative, that's not how it works. So yeah, I agree with you. I do have sentiments towards the thread. Bad post, yet again.

On November 02 2017 01:47 Conversion wrote:
Thanks for furthering my conviction that you're scum, honestly. Stop telling other people to learn how to read when you clearly can't yourself. Your above paragraph was garbage since I called out on the same page why I'm an easy lynch.

On November 02 2017 01:49 Conversion wrote:
Are you so daft that you don't understand the differences between "ShoCkeyy is the thread sentiments" versus "ShoCkeyy is the only thread sentiment"

?

On November 02 2017 01:57 Conversion wrote:
It's like I'm talking to a brick wall..

Your point is that I'm called you the thread sentiment back then when you had two votes and people generally did not like your posts.

Your point is that I called myself not the thread sentiment in that exact point in time, fair. But you completely ignore the fact that I told the thread that DF could have easily pushed me for being triggered and being un-towny, which contradicts your point of me trying to deflect myself from being the thread sentiment.

Then I literally, on the same page as we are on now, gave reasons why mafia could push me as a good lynch.

And now you're calling me a liar without taking any of my recent posts.

Brick wall stupid town, or scum is my read on you.

I'm going to read you as scum because I refuse to believe you're actually that thick.


I bolded it for you so you can easily see why I'm voting for you, by the way. You seem to have trouble reading things.

On November 02 2017 02:03 Conversion wrote:


so now apparently you have DF/Damerion/Oats/Conversion as your scum reads. DF because why not, you don't actually do anything to push that, and the other 3 are scum because they voted for you. You don't actually answer as to why a Damerion/Conversion scum team makes no sense considering how I fucked up big time by pulling that "Damerion is suspicious" shit early in the game.





Also, it's DF/Oats/Me voting for you, so maybe you should learn how to read vote threads as well

On November 02 2017 02:04 Conversion wrote:
Actually you know what.. Damerion isn't even voting you on the thread. Tictock is.

surprise surprise

On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
[b]##vote ShoCkeyy[/b

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.

On November 02 2017 03:19 Vivax wrote:


Also super scummy post, soft bus teammate for bad entrance but only explain why the townie (krogan) is scummy.

Darth and shockey down already, damn guys and I thought this was going to be challenging.

On November 02 2017 03:59 ruXxar wrote:


Yes, the bickering between him and shockey was enough for me.
Either they're both scum or theyre both town.

On November 02 2017 07:17 Conversion wrote:


right there. I called him out saying it wasn't just me and Damerion voting him, called him out saying Damerion actually never voted him, and then asked him how his argument makes sense. Completely dodges it

On November 02 2017 11:24 darthfoley wrote:


Yo can you tell me who's in your scum pile and who's in your town pile?

On November 02 2017 12:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Voted Damerion since he pushed me, then decided to bounce with out saying a word... talking about he needs to make a name for himself?... There is also the AFK that really hasn't posted once.

Breshke

On November 01 2017 07:45 Conversion wrote:


lame

On November 01 2017 08:06 Conversion wrote:
damdred/damerion/ruxxar

ez scum GG

On November 01 2017 09:20 Conversion wrote:
sigh I always have to filter meta for people

so annoying

On November 01 2017 09:27 Conversion wrote:
go lynch me thanks

bye everyone

On November 03 2017 01:22 Conversion wrote:


And more than a few have agreed in this thread that you're bad and that you're scum.

LMAO

On November 03 2017 01:23 Conversion wrote:
At least I have the audacity to push someone who's obviously scum in my head. You can keep diddling around and making your passive aggressive comments all you want. Doesn't change the fact that you're scum

On November 03 2017 01:24 Conversion wrote:
That's all I'm going to leave you with



If you're town, do something. Otherwise, keep being bad and scum.

On November 03 2017 01:19 Tictock wrote:


This is literally how I play every game.

I like to respond to things as soon as I read them else I feel like I will have a harder time recalling things later on.

And yes I always get called out for it as well.

On November 03 2017 07:21 Oatsmaster wrote:

nah dude, conversion wouldnt even be around as mafia. or he would switch to rux earlier.

Totes town.

WHERE WERE YOU THOUGH???

On November 03 2017 08:01 Damdred wrote:
i guess the only way the rux bus theory worjs is if the mafia team is shock/tt/rux.

But idk why you bus the gf instead of a goon/whatever there?

On November 03 2017 06:56 Tictock wrote:


If this is true I'll vote Ruxx for survival. I'd really like to be able to put in more than fleeting minuets.

On November 03 2017 05:53 ruXxar wrote:


Tick tock happened.

The post where he brushed off the me/conversion/holyflare argument stung me deep.

Don't worry though, you're in 2nd place.

On November 03 2017 08:01 Damdred wrote:
i guess the only way the rux bus theory worjs is if the mafia team is shock/tt/rux.

But idk why you bus the gf instead of a goon/whatever there?

On November 03 2017 07:58 Damdred wrote:
Shooting rux is wasteful, the narrative that is being constructed is that rux decided to bus tt because he needed to be townread.

But lets not forget that before I started pushing tt the lynch looked way different, rux could of supported a shockey lynch whicv btw would of gotten ahock lynched.

Or helped push a df lynch which qould of been just as close, but instead he needed to bus tt?

That doesnt make sense to me at all

On November 03 2017 07:58 Holyflare wrote:


bus
busssssss

On November 03 2017 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
I'm voting Damerion tomorrow and nobody else. Bai.

On November 03 2017 08:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax/rux/TT EZ

On November 03 2017 08:55 Damerion wrote:
May I ask for the reasoning behind voting me at this point in time?

On November 03 2017 10:08 Oatsmaster wrote:

How many times do I even have to say that Vivax isn't even doing anything in that game either

On November 03 2017 04:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax has 3 posts, he is a horrible lynch today

On November 03 2017 05:07 Oatsmaster wrote:

He's been tense and reactionary, as opposed to his claimed town attitude of something that isn't tense and reactionary.

He hard defended TICKTOC till a random post which tick tock was just clarifying something he said earlier somehow made rux do a 180. But he claims he didn't do a 180.

He claims that the conversion mistake of quoting you last game talking about damerion was a "pivotal moment" but non of his reads, town or scum come from that whole situation.

And now he's just throwing softballs at damerion for no reason.

How can you tell Vivax is mafia over 3 posts?!?

On November 03 2017 10:28 Oatsmaster wrote:

Er he posted like 2 pages of filter since the 3 posts.
By a few posts later you mean like 3 hours

On November 03 2017 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:

I got distracted by the outrageous 2nd statement, my bad.

You think that my switch in read on Vivax doesn't make sense?

On November 03 2017 23:47 Holyflare wrote:
Can we have a breshke replacement please?

On November 05 2017 01:17 Oatsmaster wrote:

i was yelling at everyone to vote ruxx.

I wouldnt make such a bad kill k.

On November 06 2017 10:21 ruXxar wrote:


Are you the vig shockey?

On November 07 2017 00:00 Conversion wrote:
ritoky, ruxxar, zen, krogan, hf are the only 5 I want to lynch into

On November 07 2017 01:10 ruXxar wrote:


Are you insinuating that shockey could be mafia?

On November 07 2017 01:06 ruXxar wrote:


My scum read hasn’t changed.
The scum pool is so tiny we should have this in the bag.

I want to lynch in this order.
If shockey killed DF I want to lynch krogan first.

Zen
Ritoky
Krogan
HF

On November 07 2017 07:20 ruXxar wrote:
Damn I need to clear my head...
Ok. So it's basically confirmed that we have a JK in the game(sorry artanis, pls no ban), and that conversion is the JK since no counter claim.

Holyflare as vig makes mega sense since I can see a holyflare vig shooting vivax every time.

Now the question is.. what does this make shockey?

On November 07 2017 07:37 ruXxar wrote:


The only other possibility I see is that ritoky is mafia.
I think he's the only one that shoots HF here and not you.

On November 06 2017 09:43 Holyflare wrote:
Cos he's the real vig

On November 06 2017 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
I really want to kill damerion though :/

On November 07 2017 08:32 Damerion wrote:


Sure the team is going to be

Shockey+Ticktock+Zen.

The vote on shockey by zen or attempted vote was an exceplent distancing choice and took attention from Shockeyy and honestly out of consideration for day two.

Zen under pressure just flailed about and has not been attempting to solve the game.

Just basic thoughts on the team.

On November 07 2017 09:04 Damerion wrote:


Process of elimination mostly, lackluster early game and not really trying to solve the game beyond a surface level.

It will be said I am hyoocritical amd that is ok.

On November 08 2017 00:29 Conversion wrote:


so who do you want to lynch

On November 08 2017 00:56 Damdred wrote:
I feel manic right now.

Im buying a fucking restaurant idk how to feel, so pumped let me read this shit.

On November 03 2017 06:55 Rels wrote:

ruxXar (3): Oatsmaster, Darthfoley, happykrogan
Tictock (3): Damdred, ruXxar, ruXxar, Damerion
ShoCkeyy (2): Tictock, Conversion, Vivax, Damerion
Darthfoley (1): Oatsmaster, happykrogan, ruXxar, The_Zen_Man, Tictoc
Vivax (1): Holyflare , ruXxark
Damerion (1): Holyflare, ShoCkeyy
Conversion (0): Conversion, ruxXar
Oatsmaster (0): Darthfoley

Not voted (1): Breshke

At the current vote count, ruxXar will be eliminated from the game. Deadline in

On November 04 2017 08:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok so off wagon alive people are
Shockey
HF
On rux is
Me/HappyKrogan/(Conversion)
assuming he didnt switch to rux on purpose late.
Assuming no bus,
HappyKrogan is the obvious mafia here.

On November 09 2017 13:10 Conversion wrote:
you and shockeyy are scummy to me only b/c you two have the least interaction with damdred.

happy is afk, but idt he's mafia. haven't checked his filter too deeply, but not much into it.

no way mafia leaves me alive here though, so not bad. I'll read more tomorrow, way too tired today

On November 09 2017 06:57 ruXxar wrote:
Looks like I'm about to get lynched.
That's ok, the game should solved at this point.

Lynch in this order if you want to win.

Zen
Ritoky.

You always lynch zen next. Always.
Don't hesitate, just do it.

On November 09 2017 04:40 ruXxar wrote:
Ok so I've read through tick tocks filter again and reached some conclusions.

Conclusion #1 is that I am confident that shockey is town.
Tick tock was pushing Shockey really hard most of the day, and cross at points in how they interacted.

Conclusion #2 is that I feel like damerion is likely town.
TT had a couple posts at EOD when we were without a votecount and he was struggling to get shenanigans going.
It felt like he was genuinly trying to find a target to latch onto or disperse votes from himself.
+ Show Spoiler +

Conclusion #3 is that krogan is likely town.
There were a couple posts where TT was quite harsh on krogan. It does not seem fake to me.
+ Show Spoiler +

More thoughts to come.

On November 03 2017 06:55 Rels wrote:

ruxXar (3): Oatsmaster, Darthfoley, happykrogan
Tictock (3): Damdred, ruXxar, ruXxar, Damerion
ShoCkeyy (2): Tictock, Conversion, Vivax, Damerion
Darthfoley (1): Oatsmaster, happykrogan, ruXxar, The_Zen_Man, Tictoc
Vivax (1): Holyflare , ruXxark
Damerion (1): Holyflare, ShoCkeyy
Conversion (0): Conversion, ruxXar
Oatsmaster (0): Darthfoley

Not voted (1): Breshke

At the current vote count, ruxXar will be eliminated from the game. Deadline in

On November 09 2017 07:06 Rels wrote:


ruXxar (3): Conversion, happykrogan, ritoky, The_Zen_Man
The_Zen_Man (1): ruXxar
Damerion (0): ruXxar
ShoCkeyy (0): ruXxar
Conversion (0): ruXxar, ritoky

Not voted (3): Damdred, Conversion, ShoCkeyy

ruXxar is the lynch.

On November 08 2017 16:48 ruXxar wrote:
If I do a scum evaluation on top of just the maths, I find the people to be scummy in this order based on their interaction in the game:

Damerion
Krogan
Zen.

If I do a scum evaluation based on their previous voting pattern I end up with this order:

Krogan
Zen
Damerion

If I take into account the night kills, then they look scummy in this order:

Damerion
Zen
Krogan

I don’t get anything conclusive out of this, but maybe Damerion is a better vote.
I feel like he needs a bit of pressure to step up and do something in the game.

I’m voting Damerion for now.

##Vote Damerion

On November 03 2017 05:44 Damerion wrote:
Well good I am going to agree with Damdreds earlier assessment of TickTocks play and go along with him.

Ill be back afterwards around lynch time.

On November 03 2017 08:50 Damerion wrote:
Excellent another read that I did correctly.

I believe this makes Damdred lock town, before now I had a slight suspicion that he was scum. But the way he pushed the lynch really seemed to come from a town perspective in this case.

The three things that were intereating around today and during the lynch was this.

1) Zen is most likely mafia in this situation, he seemed to be trying to save TickTock by voting elsewhere which would of saved him aome of the blame of a mislynch.

I think it is a classic newer person mistake, but it is still there. SO TickTock+Zen is a lock for me at this point.

2) Conversion and Vivax both have lauded my reads here and in previous games. However when it mattered both pushed off of where I wished to go.

This in itself is suspicious when they said they would blind follow me at other points.

Those were the three things condensed.

I also think RuxXar is probable town and look elsewhere tommorow

On November 08 2017 01:49 ruXxar wrote:


I like this response, it’s very good, but I was more curious why you put holyflares view on damerion in a post that had nothing to do with damerion.

On October 31 2017 04:40 Tictock wrote:
I'll /in to help this get started soon.

I will be the obligatory afk'er. ( I still work 70 hour weeks).

Feel free to give my slot away if anyone else wants to play, but I can at least keep the slot warm.