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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 27 2017 21:17 GMT
#20
I like how I'm in the game but it links to damdred :D

/in
Holyflare
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October 31 2017 22:16 GMT
#81
Confirmed town. First.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 31 2017 23:28 GMT
#135
##vote Damerion
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 31 2017 23:44 GMT
#143
I'm not being disingenuous, in fact I even agree with the points you raise. I just feel like you're being completely overzealous in comparison to usual. No hesitancy whatsoever in a guy that could quite easily be lynch bait.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 01 2017 00:25 GMT
#158
That's a quote from last game
...
Where he was town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 01 2017 00:29 GMT
#163
On November 01 2017 09:26 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 09:25 Holyflare wrote:
That's a quote from last game
...
Where he was town?


.. and? your line of thinking was that he was scum from it the entire god damn game?

lol


Yes, but it was wrong because he was town AND changing his play style. Now you are suggesting he is mafia for changing his play style and saying it's scummy for the reasons in my quote that were wrong.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 01 2017 00:31 GMT
#167
So your read is entirely irrelevant but you've been defending it for no reason? Why bother defending the notion that his play style has changed if it means nothing to you??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 01 2017 00:35 GMT
#171
You either don't like it because it's scummy or you don't like it because there was no need to change it.

In the first instance that's fine but you were linking my posts to prove an invalid case.

In the second instance it's entirely irrelevant and added nothing but a fake read to the game. If this is the case you then went out of your way to quote my post from last game to back up your irrelevant opinion which had no bearing on your thoughts on Damerion's alignment.

I find all of this a bit of a stretch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 01 2017 07:33 GMT
#264
People have to sleep you know?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 01 2017 07:34 GMT
#265
Ticktock's string of posts look really fake to me like he arbitrarily picked an alignment for each post and wrote a bad narrative.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 01 2017 07:49 GMT
#269
Ok
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 01 2017 13:28 GMT
#286
Soz guys gonna be completely inactive. We signed a tenancy to move in next week but the landlord didn't sign it and he took another offer so I have 1 1/2 weeks to find a new flat and get everything sorted and the people we're moving with have annoying requirements so we are pretty much fucked.

I'll try and play but don't expect much I'm stressed as fuck.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 01 2017 19:21 GMT
#398
You could sheep my gut on tt
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 01 2017 20:23 GMT
#415
Why is his read on Shock good if you don't agree with it?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 01 2017 21:26 GMT
#437
On November 02 2017 05:56 ruXxar wrote:
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On November 02 2017 04:48 darthfoley wrote:
Yea I wanna hear who ruxx thinks is scum. And other people if possible


Sure. Right now you are my top scum read.

1) You're being wishy washy trying to coast by. Casting shade and town reads around you pretty lightly.
You're keeping every option open, snaking your way around from read to read.

2) This post is incredibly nitpicky and trying to infuse meaning where there is none. One of the worst posts in the game.
It's very over explainy and trying to siphon meaning out of very word instead of trying to understand the overall message of the post.

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On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:

I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about.

Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary

Let me break down the bolded sentence for you
1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game
2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential
3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off?
4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy.

So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger




Besides you there's a few people on my to watch list:

Oats - for the same reason of also blowing things up and putting emphasis on worthless fact as if they were gold and had some divine scum meaning.
Damerion - I detected a change in meta behavior, need more posts to evaluate.
Shockey - I know I'm biased due to meta. The threshold for where that meta no longer holds is very thin. But still resides as town. Also the bickering with conversion tips in his favor.
HF - His damerion vote with no explanation was a red flag, but his later followup was ok. He's awfully quiet this game, but he has an excuse. Otherwise keeping an eye on him as his meta is different from last game. A bit more laid back.
Not sure how to interpret it, will need to wait until he makes a real push
.


You're the second person to say this. Where did I not explain my read? Also don't expect aby activity at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 01 2017 21:33 GMT
#441
Is zen guy new? Way too much of a wall of text for a new mafia to make.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 01 2017 21:36 GMT
#444
On November 02 2017 06:34 darthfoley wrote:
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On November 02 2017 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Is zen guy new? Way too much of a wall of text for a new mafia to make.


That's actually exactly what I would expect a new mafia to do


Well you have bad expectations then?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 01 2017 22:58 GMT
#478
Sick dodge. Almost like the sick dodgs tick tock and damerion are getting away with.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 01 2017 22:58 GMT
#479
And vivax
Holyflare
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November 01 2017 23:25 GMT
#482
On November 02 2017 08:09 Conversion wrote:
almost like you've done something important, am I right HF?

how many people you going to lynch with that logic? 7?


When did I relate anything to their activity?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 01 2017 23:31 GMT
#483
Vivax came to the thread sheeped a really obvious read and grumbled about being a pro sheep and that's about it. The read itself is imo bad because he's posted since then and vivax didn't use any of that and then he continued to do nothing. Didn't even grumble about me and lynching me which is his favourite pastime.

Damerion, as explained, jumped on specifically one shockeyy post and voted to lynch him which is totally out of character from his meandering walls of narrative that eventually lead to a vote in previous games and that instantly jumped out. I don't think he'd do that as town.

Ticktock I feel like he comes into the game to make comments that aren't particularly difficult and sounds arbitrary and made up and then he leaves again after "contributing". It feels very artificial to me and I have no idea why so many people say they like it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2017 07:14 GMT
#514

I think it is off that HF dropped a vote on Damer with no explanation then pushed Conv for also thinking Damer is scum. Like the post HF made above was the first time I've seen him actually give a reason for his vote.


Why do you keep saying this? I explained it straight away
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2017 07:18 GMT
#515
Like my 2nd post is my vote and the third is an explanation of that vote. There's quite literally nothing more to talk about Damerion because he hasn't posted a single thing since.

Also conversion effectively called Damerion scummy without saying he was scummy. He said "oh his posting style is completely different and that's bad! (but anyone in context would read that as scummy)" and then be proceeded to quote me from last game to further that argument that Damerion is weird but Damerion was town when I made that argument. Conversion was literally arguing about Damerion being mafia (but apparently it was just strange and not mafia) but using my wrong read to further the argument.

It really wasn't blown out of proportion like you purport at all. That's incredibly disingenuous.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2017 07:21 GMT
#516
And I have no opinion on the arguments between people like df and ruxxar or whoever because they seemed far too much effort to read. I don't really think df or shockey look too much like mafia though.

Ticktock does because he can't even read the game but still tries to give comments about things. He just has a really surface level view of things.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2017 16:00 GMT
#536
you can sheep me all you want
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 02 2017 17:19 GMT
#575
On November 03 2017 01:04 Tictock wrote:
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On November 02 2017 16:18 Holyflare wrote:
Like my 2nd post is my vote and the third is an explanation of that vote. There's quite literally nothing more to talk about Damerion because he hasn't posted a single thing since.

Also conversion effectively called Damerion scummy without saying he was scummy. He said "oh his posting style is completely different and that's bad! (but anyone in context would read that as scummy)" and then be proceeded to quote me from last game to further that argument that Damerion is weird but Damerion was town when I made that argument. Conversion was literally arguing about Damerion being mafia (but apparently it was just strange and not mafia) but using my wrong read to further the argument.

It really wasn't blown out of proportion like you purport at all. That's incredibly disingenuous.


You are right I missed you explain your vote in your 3rd post till I reread last night, thought I mentioned that but it may have slipped my attention.

I do think you and many other players blow stuff out of proportion when people are just sharing their thoughts. Like Conv noticed something that was different in Damer's play and made a note about it, then everyone made a huge deal about him speaking his mind. That is what is being blow out of proportion imo. People generally go with feelings and gut reads day one and sometimes those reads aren't super nailed down. That is basically how I play all the time and it always gets me scum read, buy I don't give a shit kus it is how I prefer to approach the game.

It bugs me when I see you guys forcing someone into a corner when there is just misunderstandings about what they are trying to say. The pressure is fine, that is part of the game, it just gets excessive and it's something I notice older scum players will hide behind.


nobody blew anything out of proportion, it is a strange read because he backed up his read with something that was wrong last game!!!!! but to top it all of it wasn't even a read to begin with it turned out, so what you're saying is that we mustn't talk about anything that's strange and instead have no conversation whatsoever

if he just simply said "It's different and I don't like it then fine but he didn't, he argued for pages trying to defend why it's not a bad read when he doesn't even think it makes him an alignment which was bad
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2017 17:23 GMT
#577
I'm lynching vivax, you guys are welcome to vote for mafia or be on a different wagon.

##vote vivax
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2017 17:24 GMT
#578
case:

sheeped opening points on shockeyy but pretended they were his own
didn't include any of shockeyy's further posts and evaluate them
constant afk while still around on omgus game sometimes
not doing anything
vivax
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2017 18:09 GMT
#582
Cool but vivax is mafia though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2017 19:20 GMT
#594
On November 03 2017 03:44 Damerion wrote:
Hello,

I just woke up from my shift. As such I obviously have a lot of catching uo to do.

I have been trying to keep up with the thread right now and I am in the neighborhood of scum being in these five people.

Shockey/RuxXar/Ticktock/Zen

The fifth person I do not want to say quite yet as I do not want the gane to develop into a war if I am wrong.

But I feel like at least two mafia are in this group listed.

And as I filter dive I will place my vote on Shockey as a place holder.


You know you can just say Holyflare right?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2017 19:21 GMT
#595
I don't like the fact you've mentioned 5!!! Mafia reads but absolutely 0 reasons.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 02 2017 20:00 GMT
#614
Oats give me a breakdown if ruxxar thing
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 02 2017 20:00 GMT
#615
Vivax mafia though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 02 2017 20:27 GMT
#633
On November 03 2017 04:34 Damerion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 04:30 ruXxar wrote:
On November 03 2017 03:44 Damerion wrote:
Hello,

I just woke up from my shift. As such I obviously have a lot of catching uo to do.

I have been trying to keep up with the thread right now and I am in the neighborhood of scum being in these five people.

Shockey/RuxXar/Ticktock/Zen

The fifth person I do not want to say quite yet as I do not want the gane to develop into a war if I am wrong.

But I feel like at least two mafia are in this group listed.

And as I filter dive I will place my vote on Shockey as a place holder.


Can I hear your opinion on ticktock and zen?


In the moat concise way possible,

Very little interaction between either of them.
Zen made a rather large post that has enabled him to hide in the aether.
Both are very sideline characters not involved in the lynch, and really there posts are mostly surface level things that come from skimming the thread.

Overall I would say tt is a 6/10 read and zen is slightly stronger at 7/10.

Shockeyy filter is mafia oriented still I believe.


So why is zen scummy for doing that when you literally made 1 post on shockeyy and afkd? What makes him mafia and not just afk? 7/10 is so strong.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2017 20:44 GMT
#650
On November 03 2017 05:40 Damerion wrote:
Before I head out I will say a couple of things.

Your correct in that it is hypocritical in the way I read people for fitting in with little effort. But juat because I also fit the profile does not mean that others also do not fit that criteria.

Making snide comments does not change the fact that my assessment is correct even if I have to fit the criteria myself.

Secondly I will not say that we should lynch Shockeyy today, he has been one if the more polarizing figures in d1, and it does feel at this point like scum are pretty ok with the lynch.

I really enjoy ny thoughts that Zen+Ticktock+one is the current team I am working with.

I believe we should lynch Ticktock with Damdred today, also its possibke RuxXar is the third with how he was ok with Ticktock but then switched when it was possible ticktock could be lynched.



Yes, it quite literally means that. If you are town and people are displaying the same characteristics as yourself then by definition it is possible that town do those things to so for you to assign that person a 70% chance to be mafia is arbitrary and illogical.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2017 20:46 GMT
#653
On November 03 2017 05:40 ruXxar wrote:
Here's a game from when I was scum with shockey:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?user=ShoCkeyy&view=all


This looks way more like trying to appease people and fit in than here.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 02 2017 21:11 GMT
#680
Does he do that as town?
Holyflare
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November 02 2017 22:31 GMT
#771
lol i'm well good at this game why didn't you guys listen earlier/all game?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 02 2017 22:53 GMT
#780
I agree, he tried to shut down my god read pretty hard.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 02 2017 22:58 GMT
#785
On November 01 2017 16:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 16:34 Holyflare wrote:
Ticktock's string of posts look really fake to me like he arbitrarily picked an alignment for each post and wrote a bad narrative.

yeah i think the opposite as in its not fake.

I think shockey is really mafia though, totes
##unvote
##vote shockey


bus
busssssss
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 02 2017 23:19 GMT
#802
I don't get why nobody is scum reading me :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 02 2017 23:21 GMT
#804
but I told you all about tt anyway :D :D
Holyflare
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November 02 2017 23:42 GMT
#814
don't kill me I wanna play and we might be figuring out a flat solution tomorrow D:
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 02 2017 23:48 GMT
#819
as long as we're clear that I'm town then I'm out again

byeeee :D
Holyflare
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November 02 2017 23:51 GMT
#822
I'm voting Damerion tomorrow and nobody else. Bai.
Holyflare
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November 03 2017 12:05 GMT
#851
I'm shooting Damerion
Holyflare
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November 03 2017 14:47 GMT
#854
Can we have a breshke replacement please?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 03 2017 17:36 GMT
#858
On November 04 2017 01:29 Damerion wrote:
Should be shooting Zen instead, he is an excellent shot and the only person on the wagon who couls be bussing, even accidently.


It's a shame that it's you then :o
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 03 2017 17:38 GMT
#859
Mafia is some pussy ass shit man. I am off tt wagon, I previously pushed tt, I've been afk most of the game and not one person has any suspicion of me. Even TT was just "watch out for him" lol. The perfect partner.

Why is nobody scum reading me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 03 2017 18:45 GMT
#867
damerion/vivax ez
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 03 2017 18:45 GMT
#868
shooting dat dame bro for trying to take credit after doing nothing
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 03 2017 18:48 GMT
#870
because you haven't admitted that your hypocritical reasons for scum reading zen don't make sense when it applies to like 5 other people too and somehow he ended up at 70% mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 03 2017 18:52 GMT
#871
and then you also said you were suspicious of damdred previously but ended up sheeping him??

but his reads were just rehashes of what I said and just saying "lynch tt" which isn't exactly the towniest thing to convince someone yet you followed someone you were wary of for no reason?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 03 2017 19:51 GMT
#872
and the fact you have written about 5 words about your scum read when normally you write a big wall of text
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 03 2017 20:06 GMT
#875
On November 04 2017 04:57 Vivax wrote:
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On November 04 2017 04:51 Holyflare wrote:
and the fact you have written about 5 words about your scum read when normally you write a big wall of text


This is a terrible argument.

Along with a terrible claim that only the most gullible would believe.


you think I can't prove it when he's dead?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 03 2017 20:40 GMT
#878
why are you saying there's one kill instead of 2?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 03 2017 20:43 GMT
#880
call me mafia then cos I'm killing damerion
Holyflare
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November 03 2017 21:34 GMT
#886
when does this cycle end?
Holyflare
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November 03 2017 21:49 GMT
#888
cool shot damerion

peace
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 03 2017 21:55 GMT
#890
I don't care if you're salty he's mafia and you're blind to it

literally 1 hypocritical read that applies to vivax etc and he's 70% and sheeped you when you didn't do much and he was wary
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 03 2017 22:00 GMT
#893
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ shot vivax
Holyflare
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November 03 2017 22:03 GMT
#895
because I wasn't sure on damerion and now that df died I am sure on damerion
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 03 2017 22:05 GMT
#896
actually ruxxar is mafia and I was just kidding :D
Holyflare
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November 03 2017 22:05 GMT
#897
wanted to see if they rbd me if I was pushing dame
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 03 2017 22:34 GMT
#901
yeh we lynch between oats or ruxxar today
Holyflare
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November 04 2017 14:44 GMT
#981
Oats said tt was scummy but then completely dropped it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 04 2017 14:45 GMT
#982
But then tt called him top town and made things that make me pause. But weird kills are what oats does.

The nk either points to oats/ruxxar/damdred/damerion.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 04 2017 15:01 GMT
#983
and happy I guess
Holyflare
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November 04 2017 16:45 GMT
#987
I really haven't read a single thing so I don't even care tbh

should probably lynch zen or something
Holyflare
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November 04 2017 19:35 GMT
#1008
On November 05 2017 04:20 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 03:41 ritoky wrote:
why exactly are you lynching someone who lynched mafia on a 4/4 split vote the subsequent day, even if by accident?


because he tried to swap out of the wagon, failed, and now is saying he didn't mean to lynch mafia

?? why would he even say that as town, and then try to defend his position on swapping off TT wagon. I would have just parked the vote on TT as town and gone "lol mafia lynch I'm good"


Why would he even say that as mafia is the real question??

As town: honesty

As mafia: do what you said
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 04 2017 21:43 GMT
#1021
I rescind being vig btw
Holyflare
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November 05 2017 03:27 GMT
#1024
I don't want the real one to cc me and reveal himself tbh because I know it happens.
Holyflare
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November 05 2017 15:00 GMT
#1030
##vote oatsmaster
Holyflare
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November 05 2017 18:06 GMT
#1042
oh boy an oats lynch, I can already smell the victory
Holyflare
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November 05 2017 19:45 GMT
#1071
lynch the oats man
Holyflare
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November 05 2017 20:15 GMT
#1078
such a pure wagon
Holyflare
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November 05 2017 20:41 GMT
#1085
On November 06 2017 05:23 Damdred wrote:
Can you explain to me HF why you wanna lynch oats today?


because he's mafia?

any sensible mafia just kills people on the ticktock wagon unless they want to spread confusion and implicate the tt wagon and that's a dumb strategy and a weird kill on df unless it's oats as mafia because he makes those kills

also on day 1 oats was calling out tick tock but then nothing came about from it and he just dropped it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 05 2017 20:44 GMT
#1086
Shouldn't listen to me though I've read like 20 pages max and would still lynch Damerion
Holyflare
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November 05 2017 21:56 GMT
#1121
On November 06 2017 06:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2017 05:41 Holyflare wrote:
On November 06 2017 05:23 Damdred wrote:
Can you explain to me HF why you wanna lynch oats today?


because he's mafia?

any sensible mafia just kills people on the ticktock wagon unless they want to spread confusion and implicate the tt wagon and that's a dumb strategy and a weird kill on df unless it's oats as mafia because he makes those kills

also on day 1 oats was calling out tick tock but then nothing came about from it and he just dropped it

I can only lynch one person dumbo.

Also, I killed all the people on the mafia Lynch wagon last game so that's objectively false.


You killed df last game and he wasn't on the wagon.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 05 2017 21:57 GMT
#1123
Lynch oats plz.
Holyflare
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November 05 2017 21:58 GMT
#1125
I really want to kill damerion though :/
Holyflare
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November 05 2017 21:58 GMT
#1126
On November 06 2017 06:57 ruXxar wrote:
He was basically the reason conversion got lynched at all.


He wasn't on the wagon. Don't care about technicalities like leading the lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 05 2017 21:59 GMT
#1128
On November 06 2017 06:58 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2017 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
I really want to kill damerion though :/


Bad dog.


Yeh voting the jk was a good move when the mafia guy basically confirmed him town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 05 2017 22:00 GMT
#1130
Kill oats.
Holyflare
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November 05 2017 22:08 GMT
#1137
Let's kill zen :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 05 2017 22:10 GMT
#1139
Nobody tell him about conversion and see what happens
Holyflare
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November 05 2017 22:15 GMT
#1142
On November 06 2017 07:14 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2017 07:10 Holyflare wrote:
Nobody tell him about conversion and see what happens


What about conversion?


He got confirmed town by ticktock so we stopped voting for him
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 05 2017 23:18 GMT
#1147
Yes I'm not actually vig lol. Nobody even questioned it so you know I'm town :
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 05 2017 23:18 GMT
#1148
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 00:43 GMT
#1152
Cos he's the real vig
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 01:01 GMT
#1154
Not particularly
Holyflare
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November 06 2017 01:32 GMT
#1156
You mafia ruxxar?
Holyflare
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November 06 2017 12:30 GMT
#1161
Stop asking questions about it wtf man?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 12:30 GMT
#1162
You're just concerned about this rather than finding mafia. Very scummy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 13:33 GMT
#1164
He's clearly the vig and it doesn't matter who he shot because vivax scum read shockeyy and df scum read you.

You're hiding behind "figuring out" who he shot instead of trying to figure out who mafia is. Not once have you concluded something since oats flipped town. Your vote was placed extremely late in the day, almost like you didn't care who got lynched between oats and zen and you've done basically nothing for a while.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 14:43 GMT
#1167
It's not garbage? Who have you figured out as scum and why over the past day?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 14:47 GMT
#1168
I get a bad feeling from ritoky. I'm definitely sure I've seen him vote off wagon or himself as a placeholder. Conversion voting himself was not scummy in the slightest and I don't know how people tried to twist it to be. Ritoky isn't the offender here, it's ruxxar, but I still get the bad juju from ritoky who has just been spouting rhetoric about not lynching mafia wagon instead of analysing the people.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 14:49 GMT
#1169
Like a darthfoley kill does not make the slightest bit of sense unless one of the mafia people bussed their team mate and don't want to look implicated from poe nks or they're trying to set up ruxxar.

Ritoky just blanket statements that we shouldn't lynch people on the wagon which is bad in this situation. It's either a high level ish kill or a bus but he's trying to make it neither.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 15:16 GMT
#1177
Why would you kill me lol?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 15:22 GMT
#1178
Don't particularly understand your logic between "ritoky and zen can go first" and "Holyflare can die first" when i pretty much got oats lynched, who was your biggest scum read, and now I am starting a ritoky push that you literally just agreed with.

That's pretty bad looking my dude.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 15:31 GMT
#1181
Don't confirm it bro.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 15:32 GMT
#1184
On November 07 2017 00:22 Holyflare wrote:
Don't particularly understand your logic between "ritoky and zen can go first" and "Holyflare can die first" when i pretty much got oats lynched, who was your biggest scum read, and now I am starting a ritoky push that you literally just agreed with.

That's pretty bad looking my dude.


I think I'm going to sheep myself.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 15:50 GMT
#1191
Don't you think someone would have corrected 90% of the game if he shot df?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 15:52 GMT
#1192
On November 06 2017 23:47 Holyflare wrote:
I get a bad feeling from ritoky. I'm definitely sure I've seen him vote off wagon or himself as a placeholder. Conversion voting himself was not scummy in the slightest and I don't know how people tried to twist it to be. Ritoky isn't the offender here, it's ruxxar, but I still get the bad juju from ritoky who has just been spouting rhetoric about not lynching mafia wagon instead of analysing the people.

On November 06 2017 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
Like a darthfoley kill does not make the slightest bit of sense unless one of the mafia people bussed their team mate and don't want to look implicated from poe nks or they're trying to set up ruxxar.

Ritoky just blanket statements that we shouldn't lynch people on the wagon which is bad in this situation. It's either a high level ish kill or a bus but he's trying to make it neither.


I'm feeling very good about sheeping myself.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 16:45 GMT
#1199
Don't say anything.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 17:09 GMT
#1200
Ritoky is mafia, discuss my points from now on.
Holyflare
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November 06 2017 18:56 GMT
#1215
I also agree with that, no need for name calling.
Holyflare
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November 06 2017 19:14 GMT
#1223
I don't think zen is mafia tbh
Holyflare
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November 06 2017 19:37 GMT
#1227
On November 07 2017 04:21 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2017 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
Like a darthfoley kill does not make the slightest bit of sense unless one of the mafia people bussed their team mate and don't want to look implicated from poe nks or they're trying to set up ruxxar.

Ritoky just blanket statements that we shouldn't lynch people on the wagon which is bad in this situation. It's either a high level ish kill or a bus but he's trying to make it neither.


let's say we lynch ritoky and he flips scum. who would the pool be narrowed down to for last scum?


ruxxar (he's literally trying to ask shokeyy who he killed to see if he's the real vig)

or damerion/damdred/happy

tbh I haven't read any of the latter but damerion has been bugging me all game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 19:40 GMT
#1228
after skimming happy's filter I don't think I'd lynch him
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 20:51 GMT
#1230
good thoughts
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 21:00 GMT
#1233
Well done, you just coloured a lynch list to come to the same conclusion as everyone else based on absolutely no reasoning from the player's filter or anything about the game other than a narrative.

I have points you could even discuss through and you aren't?

Happykrogan is not mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 21:07 GMT
#1239
On November 07 2017 06:02 Conversion wrote:
HF wants to lynch you, I'm probably gonna die but I'm leaning towards ruxxar more than zen. zen wants to lynch ruxxar.

no idea about anyone else


I'm thinking ruxxar too after tonight's posts. He's literally just questioned the vig repeatedly and coloured a vote list instead of interaction or going through other points.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 21:09 GMT
#1241
On November 06 2017 23:47 Holyflare wrote:
I get a bad feeling from ritoky. I'm definitely sure I've seen him vote off wagon or himself as a placeholder. Conversion voting himself was not scummy in the slightest and I don't know how people tried to twist it to be. Ritoky isn't the offender here, it's ruxxar, but I still get the bad juju from ritoky who has just been spouting rhetoric about not lynching mafia wagon instead of analysing the people.

On November 06 2017 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
Like a darthfoley kill does not make the slightest bit of sense unless one of the mafia people bussed their team mate and don't want to look implicated from poe nks or they're trying to set up ruxxar.

Ritoky just blanket statements that we shouldn't lynch people on the wagon which is bad in this situation. It's either a high level ish kill or a bus but he's trying to make it neither.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 21:09 GMT
#1242
On November 07 2017 06:08 ritoky wrote:
happykrogan seems to be mafia in every world that doesn't involve ruxxar being mafia, so probably him.

in the world where the game is auto after conv claimed since we had 3 lynches and 4 unknowns, that was reduced to 3 lynches 3 unknowns. it is happykrogan + hf/shockey (whichever is the 1 playing grab ass)

in the world where zen accidentally'd his teammate it is him + 1 of the above in which case there's an argument to be made for hf and shockeyy playing grabass = town in which case krogan is more mafia than both of them.

then there's the 3rd world where it was mvm like oats said and ruxxar is mafia, which makes the game dumb and less solved and i don't like that.

but that's just at a glance.


This is so unbelievably generic man come on.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 21:14 GMT
#1245
It's not being disconnected you just listed like 4 possibilities and made no conclusions. I am beyond disconnected in this game but even I can see that a darthfoley kill doesn't make sense in a world where it's not a bus or a vet.

Yet, you don't think ruxxar is mafia and you think happykrogan is mafia with shockey/myself but for some reason we go for killing the ruxxar wagon people. Iirc df even town read happy so that's him doing 2 suboptimal nk moves and you're saying I'm on a team with him and would let him do that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 21:14 GMT
#1246
There's shit reads and then there's the level of analysis you just put in.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 21:17 GMT
#1247
And then you try and "theorise" a bus but you select the only guy on the wagon with the most innocent not mafia play of all time to be potentially mafia over Damerion who has literally posted nothing and "sheeped" his wary scum-ish lean damdred for "good points on tt" when damdred didn't really post any real good points and afkd the rest of the game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 21:18 GMT
#1250
I literally just played in a game with the exact same 2 people where the exact same scenario happened and we talked about the exact same things.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 21:19 GMT
#1251
It's not an error at all if mafia bussed and I would make the same kill if I bussed because eventually the wagon would narrow down to you. Or if I was ruxxar I would make the same kill too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 06 2017 21:21 GMT
#1252
Fortunately I'm confirmed town for voting off wagon
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 21:26 GMT
#1255
why would I say no?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 06 2017 21:41 GMT
#1261
why would mafia be OFF wagon when their partner is getting lynched wtf?

that's the most bull shit thing I've heard
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 11 2017 22:08 GMT
#1514
pointless bussing lost you the game imo, this game would have been 1000 times different with TT still alive
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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November 11 2017 22:08 GMT
#1515
could have used me to lynch absolutely anyone in the game
Holyflare
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January 19 2018 23:27 GMT
#1531
On November 02 2017 08:31 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax came to the thread sheeped a really obvious read and grumbled about being a pro sheep and that's about it. The read itself is imo bad because he's posted since then and vivax didn't use any of that and then he continued to do nothing. Didn't even grumble about me and lynching me which is his favourite pastime.

Damerion, as explained, jumped on specifically one shockeyy post and voted to lynch him which is totally out of character from his meandering walls of narrative that eventually lead to a vote in previous games and that instantly jumped out. I don't think he'd do that as town.

Ticktock I feel like he comes into the game to make comments that aren't particularly difficult and sounds arbitrary and made up and then he leaves again after "contributing". It feels very artificial to me and I have no idea why so many people say they like it.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2018 23:27 GMT
#1532
wrong thread...
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