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MrLonelyClock
Profile Joined June 2017
87 Posts
October 14 2017 01:44 GMT
#321
On October 14 2017 07:58 Damdred wrote:
Eh I am not going to play under pressure this game, so I am going to ignore it because ill never get lynched <3.


I can switch what i say to mean what i want to say when i mean it, even if i say the opposite earlier! But really I just rethought my position on Damerion, btw hf probably just town.


So me and some others start asking questions and you decide its too much? I'm pretty sure you have faced much harder pressure...

So can you tell me what triggered you to rethink your position on Damerion? Still don't know why.
MrLonelyClock
Profile Joined June 2017
87 Posts
October 14 2017 01:52 GMT
#322
Also Damdred if you had to lynch one person right now, who would it be and why? You can't just say everyone is town but afk's...
MrLonelyClock
Profile Joined June 2017
87 Posts
October 14 2017 01:57 GMT
#323
On October 14 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
happykrogan



MyLonelyLock
Conversion <-- could be being buddied, will return later with an update



darthfoley
ruXxar




xenonn40
Damerion
Oatsmaster
Grackaroni
Fecalfeast
Onegu
Damdred
coolTLname

that is all

How is this list divided? I'm not able to follow.
MrLonelyClock
Profile Joined June 2017
87 Posts
October 14 2017 02:06 GMT
#324
Hey xennon I see you voted for oatsmaster. Any reason? You haven't posted anything for a while and nothing worthwhile. Why the vote without explanation?
xenonn40
Profile Joined October 2011
United States282 Posts
October 14 2017 03:32 GMT
#325
On October 14 2017 11:06 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Hey xennon I see you voted for oatsmaster. Any reason? You haven't posted anything for a while and nothing worthwhile. Why the vote without explanation?


Because I think Rex is town, and Oatsmaster is the only alternative at the moment, and the first to vote for Rex.
MrLonelyClock
Profile Joined June 2017
87 Posts
October 14 2017 03:48 GMT
#326
On October 14 2017 12:32 xenonn40 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 11:06 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Hey xennon I see you voted for oatsmaster. Any reason? You haven't posted anything for a while and nothing worthwhile. Why the vote without explanation?


Because I think Rex is town, and Oatsmaster is the only alternative at the moment, and the first to vote for Rex.

Why do you think ruxxar (im assuming thats rex) is town? Likewise why is oatsmaster the only alternative compared to everyone else? Let me know what prompted you to come to these conclusions.
xenonn40
Profile Joined October 2011
United States282 Posts
October 14 2017 03:52 GMT
#327
On October 14 2017 12:48 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 12:32 xenonn40 wrote:
On October 14 2017 11:06 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Hey xennon I see you voted for oatsmaster. Any reason? You haven't posted anything for a while and nothing worthwhile. Why the vote without explanation?


Because I think Rex is town, and Oatsmaster is the only alternative at the moment, and the first to vote for Rex.

Why do you think ruxxar (im assuming thats rex) is town? Likewise why is oatsmaster the only alternative compared to everyone else? Let me know what prompted you to come to these conclusions.


Yes, sorry Ruxxar.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 14 2017 05:43 GMT
#328
On October 14 2017 12:32 xenonn40 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 11:06 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Hey xennon I see you voted for oatsmaster. Any reason? You haven't posted anything for a while and nothing worthwhile. Why the vote without explanation?


Because I think Rex is town, and Oatsmaster is the only alternative at the moment, and the first to vote for Rex.

Dude what are you doing.

Who do you think is mafia??
It's purality
No gg, No skill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 14 2017 06:41 GMT
#329
Oats do you like your Ruxxar vote?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 14 2017 07:33 GMT
#330
On October 14 2017 15:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Oats do you like your Ruxxar vote?

I like it.
Look, rux' play in this game has been singular. Post a lot of shit and "be a target". Which is fine to start the first 24 hours. whatever. The problem is that he hasnt actually transferred that into anything substantial. He hasnt used his activity in a meaningful way, like to say that "oh this happened because this guy talked to me, which means he is xx alignment."
This leads me to believe that he is just posting and being active as a front to avoid actually having to put stuff in that he can be attacked and accused upon in a major way. He hasnt taken a stance on anyone and he has literally added no value to the game while having the time to be one of the top volume posters.

How about you? Do you like your oats vote?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 14 2017 07:35 GMT
#331
also xenonn, comes in, posts some inane nonsense, leaves, comes back, votes for someone just because he thought the other person is town and leaves again.

total lynch bait.
No gg, No skill.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 14 2017 08:14 GMT
#332
On October 14 2017 07:17 darthfoley wrote:

I think ruxxar is town, but I can understand why people-- especially new players-- might interpret his play as mafia


Can you explain this please?

ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 14 2017 08:38 GMT
#333
On October 14 2017 08:55 Holyflare wrote:
I haven't seen anything really really good to sheep yet. Is that a problem?


So what is this all about?

On October 13 2017 23:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2017 23:03 happykrogan wrote:
Just realized that ruxxar has the biggest filter of everyone, but as far as I can see doesn't really push the game forward. Just posting fluff, town leans and pretty harmless questions.
Best read of the game imo.
On October 14 2017 00:01 Holyflare wrote:
Happy is my biggest town read by a country mile at the moment. His posts about Ruxxar are on point. It's a perfect mafia strategy to be active but not post content and just appear to be asking "relevant" questions. Which is what is happening.

I don't know what you're trying to achieve Ruxxar.
On October 14 2017 00:03 Holyflare wrote:
It would be a completely different situation if you took what people were saying and formulated some kind of read based on their answers but the questions you ask don't lead to meaningful answers that let you draw these conclusions.

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 14 2017 08:42 GMT
#334
I've been on the edge of calling HF mafia since the interaction between him and krogan.
The backseat mafia driving is ringing bells in my head.
There's no congruence between his words and actions.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 14 2017 08:46 GMT
#335
He calls krogans read on me the best read in the game, yet he makes no effort at all to push it any further.
After the strong salvo of encouragement for krogan, he just let it drop and appears to have lost all interest.

I'm parking my vote on HF as the most likely mafia for the moment.
In any case I hope it makes him wake up and show some interest in the game.

##vote Holyflare
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 14 2017 08:56 GMT
#336
I'm also adding Grack to my town list.
I feel like his activity and engagement in this game is sharp and focused.
He's taking an active part in calling out oats, and he's not backing down when challenged.

Current list:

Xenon
+ Show Spoiler +

On October 13 2017 14:19 xenonn40 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2017 06:10 happykrogan wrote:
Hi
I'm really relieved that I'm just a normal VT in my first game.
Exactly what I hoped for


Sounds like something a mafia would say.

This is a strong opening statement from a newbie.
Expecting more timidness from a first timer scum.

Damerion
+ Show Spoiler +

On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.

Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.

Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.

My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.

The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.

I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present.

Strong and clear reads.
Consistent meta from last game.

On October 13 2017 06:47 Damerion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2017 06:43 ruXxar wrote:
On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.

Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.

Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.

My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.

The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.

I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present.


You got 2 out of 3 right. Not bad!
Krogans post might look forced, but it's not indicative of mafia just yet.


I agree it is not quite mafia indicative as of yet, however it is worth watching how he develops as the game goes on. If he continues to be so forced it will be worth connecting, if he does not well it was just a newer person being a bit difficult.

And I really wish that Damdred would post more than just a random list, I miss the days when I would look forward to reading his posts and mighty cases. Now he is just a sheep I must shepherd across the finish line who sometimes pouts and hides his head nobody listens to him.

Earnest and genuine request. Has a carefree and playful touch to it.

Oatsmaster
+ Show Spoiler +
Is being his typical hard headed self. Straight to the point. No sugar coating, even abrasive to some.
Is lacking in reading comprehension,but puts himself way out there.
Unlikely to come from mafia.

MyLonelyLock
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2017 10:38 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.

Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.

Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.

My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.

The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.

I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present.


First half is garbage. Let people play how they want. Its early in the game so the reads I would say are kinda forced but that can be expected. However having 3 reads this early just seems like you want to throw out the "HEY IM POSTING A LOT, LOOK AT THIS TOWNIE".

Also your posts kinda annoy me. It's as if I'm reading a novel and not actually having a conversation. Feels like talking (or typing) to a wall of sorts.

Strong accusations straight out of the gate.
Honest and genuine tone. Does not filter or sugar coat his opinion.
Can clearly see through to the intentions behind his post with no apparent malicious agenda.
Not expected from newbie mafia.

Conversion
+ Show Spoiler +
Speaks his mind freely.
Conversation flows naturally.
Not guarded in speech and not afraid to step on peoples toes

Happykrogan
+ Show Spoiler +
Thinks critically about the game.
Puts himself in a very vulnerable spot.
Not backing down, not afraid to explain his thoughs.

Grackaroni
+ Show Spoiler +
Taking a more active and enaged role in the game.
Not afraid to be bold and throw out unorthodox reads.
Doesn't back down when challenged

Holyflare
+ Show Spoiler +
No congruence between his words and his actions.
Backseat mafia driving and manipulation.
Not committed to anything.
Doesn't need to take an active role since currently only town is up for lynch.


Fecalfeast
Onegu
Damdred
coolTLname
darthfoley
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 14 2017 09:12 GMT
#337
On October 14 2017 07:17 darthfoley wrote:
Okay, so i really like happykrogan guy. Which makes me also like HF, because he drew the same conclusion that I did: I doubt a newbie like krogan would be this active and not be afraid to call someone out as first time mafia.

I think ruxxar is town, but I can understand why people-- especially new players-- might interpret his play as mafia. I also think Oats is more likely town than not. He was one of the first players to get the game moving, and I like his pressure on the LonelyClock dude. Still waiting for an answer on this, I think

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2017 15:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 13 2017 14:49 MrLonelyClock wrote:

I agreed about ruxxar posting fluff. Me voting on ruxxar != me thinking he is mafia atm. But I can see how you could come to that conclusion now. I guess we will have to disagree on the counterpoints validity.


So why are you voting for him?


Don't like Damdred or FF right now.

FF:

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 00:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
Like I said early on, ruxxar is trying too hard


Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 01:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tbh i think ruxxar not giving a shit seems towny


This progression is odd and without any sort of explanation. The first post also doesn't say anything. People can try hard from either alignment.

Also strikes me as odd that he's scum reading Damerion for unearned town read on FF...

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 14 2017 02:45 MrLonelyClock wrote:
fecal if you think ruxxar is towny then who do you think currently is the most scummy then (can be 1 or more)?

Damerion for giving me a town read for basocally no reason. Seems tmi to me


When Damdred has somehow managed to townread like 6 people and put them into "no lynch" pile just 24h into the game. Yet no mention of Damdred. It's like he doesn't exist.

Speaking of Damdred

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 03:21 Damdred wrote:
Ok, so I feel a little guilty at this point in time and I will try to be tge old Damdred this game.

Fact check away on my reads this train aint got no breaks and i aint got time to quote on phone.

Town Reads:

Damerion, he has this thing he does as town where he will have this skrt of mission statement about how he will approach the game. He has checked that, he gives clear concise reada with hard reasoning behind it, done. He also seems to try to draw people into conversation instead of existing.

Rux rux baby: Off the cuff read, the eay he responds to the pressure is town. Does t care, tries to be helpful and then establishes where he wants to be in the game. I think hes just going to be town for the tone and the lressure, but his reads were not bad.

If anyone tries to lynch rux at least today I will let slip the dogs of war and create chaos.

FF: Hey buddy we should work together, care free attitude. Gives some opinions still a bit weak on a few points, overall would not kynch today.

Gracky: Posts his thoughts, goes against thread sentiment a post or two ago. Seems to be looking where others dont, no lynch today.

Oats: Seemed to be reading the game a d his lressure wasnt horrid. It is defi ately not top town worthy but enough for a pass.

Xenon and nylonelylock are both town i feel for how they approached the game as newbs. Meh they were soitting fire earlier

Everyone else is in this null range besides hf who I love dearly but am ignoring until he wants cuddles.


Besides the fact that Damdred has only given vague town/null leans on virtually every active player, one read sticks out to me as more scummy than others. Damdred's read on FF feels fabricated. FF "gives some opinions" but FF is "weak on a few points" yet Damdred would still not lynch him today. He never specifies what points he's weak on, doesn't try to follow up with FF and clarify those "weak points." Talk about an unearned town read.

So I have no idea why FF isn't scum reading Damdred considering his self imposed criteria regarding Damerion.


I like this post. Good nuanced observations that mafia wouldn't pick up on.
Especially the damerion vs damdred comparison on fefe.
Fefe is really close to entering my scum pile.
Damdred still null.

Darth foley goes on town pile for solid display of attention to fine details.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 14 2017 10:57 GMT
#338
Why would I vote you when you're on my town pile?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 14 2017 12:00 GMT
#339
On October 14 2017 19:57 Holyflare wrote:
Why would I vote you when you're on my town pile?


???
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 14 2017 12:15 GMT
#340
Do you think my list is most scummy to least scummy or something?
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