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On October 14 2017 08:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
He didnt say "mafia wont do that", he specifically said "rux will only do that as town"
I mean.. I don’t think he specifically SAID those exact words, but semantics.
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On October 14 2017 07:58 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 07:55 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 14 2017 07:17 darthfoley wrote:Okay, so i really like happykrogan guy. Which makes me also like HF, because he drew the same conclusion that I did: I doubt a newbie like krogan would be this active and not be afraid to call someone out as first time mafia. I think ruxxar is town, but I can understand why people-- especially new players-- might interpret his play as mafia. I also think Oats is more likely town than not. He was one of the first players to get the game moving, and I like his pressure on the LonelyClock dude. Still waiting for an answer on this, I think On October 13 2017 15:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 13 2017 14:49 MrLonelyClock wrote:
I agreed about ruxxar posting fluff. Me voting on ruxxar != me thinking he is mafia atm. But I can see how you could come to that conclusion now. I guess we will have to disagree on the counterpoints validity.
So why are you voting for him? Don't like Damdred or FF right now. FF: On October 14 2017 00:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
Like I said early on, ruxxar is trying too hard On October 14 2017 01:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tbh i think ruxxar not giving a shit seems towny This progression is odd and without any sort of explanation. The first post also doesn't say anything. People can try hard from either alignment. Also strikes me as odd that he's scum reading Damerion for unearned town read on FF... On October 14 2017 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 14 2017 02:45 MrLonelyClock wrote:
fecal if you think ruxxar is towny then who do you think currently is the most scummy then (can be 1 or more)? Damerion for giving me a town read for basocally no reason. Seems tmi to me When Damdred has somehow managed to townread like 6 people and put them into "no lynch" pile just 24h into the game. Yet no mention of Damdred. It's like he doesn't exist. Speaking of Damdred On October 14 2017 03:21 Damdred wrote:
Ok, so I feel a little guilty at this point in time and I will try to be tge old Damdred this game.
Fact check away on my reads this train aint got no breaks and i aint got time to quote on phone.
Town Reads:
Damerion, he has this thing he does as town where he will have this skrt of mission statement about how he will approach the game. He has checked that, he gives clear concise reada with hard reasoning behind it, done. He also seems to try to draw people into conversation instead of existing.
Rux rux baby: Off the cuff read, the eay he responds to the pressure is town. Does t care, tries to be helpful and then establishes where he wants to be in the game. I think hes just going to be town for the tone and the lressure, but his reads were not bad.
If anyone tries to lynch rux at least today I will let slip the dogs of war and create chaos.
FF: Hey buddy we should work together, care free attitude. Gives some opinions still a bit weak on a few points, overall would not kynch today.
Gracky: Posts his thoughts, goes against thread sentiment a post or two ago. Seems to be looking where others dont, no lynch today.
Oats: Seemed to be reading the game a d his lressure wasnt horrid. It is defi ately not top town worthy but enough for a pass.
Xenon and nylonelylock are both town i feel for how they approached the game as newbs. Meh they were soitting fire earlier
Everyone else is in this null range besides hf who I love dearly but am ignoring until he wants cuddles. Besides the fact that Damdred has only given vague town/null leans on virtually every active player, one read sticks out to me as more scummy than others. Damdred's read on FF feels fabricated. FF "gives some opinions" but FF is "weak on a few points" yet Damdred would still not lynch him today. He never specifies what points he's weak on, doesn't try to follow up with FF and clarify those "weak points." Talk about an unearned town read. So I have no idea why FF isn't scum reading Damdred considering his self imposed criteria regarding Damerion. I don't see how they're the same at all. Damdred said he wouldn't lynch me where damerion literally called me a townread. The only people i'm not willing to lynch are those who I think are town. You're splitting hairs.
I disagree. Giving someone a pass means they dont seem scummy enough to worry about. Especially day 1 where nothing is certain and the pool of players is largest. Regardless you asked why i didn't scumread damdred for the same reason as damerion and i answered
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On October 14 2017 08:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
happykrogan
MyLonelyLock
Conversion <-- could be being buddied, will return later with an update
darthfoley
ruXxar
xenonn40
Damerion
Oatsmaster
Grackaroni
Fecalfeast
Onegu
Damdred
coolTLname
that is all useless why are so many people posting list posts??
To strike fear into mafia's hearts.
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On October 14 2017 08:05 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 08:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 06:40 Grackaroni wrote:On October 14 2017 06:38 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 04:28 Grackaroni wrote:Happykrogan is almost certainly town. RuXxar is also the only player silly enough to think that drawing suspicion to himself would be a good town plan. + Show Spoiler +On October 14 2017 03:36 ruXxar wrote:
Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you.
This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious.
Have you seen any of ruxxs mafia games? I think I've skimmed some of them from when I played with him as town but I don't think I've ever seen him play mafia. so why do you use a meta read to townread someone when you have no idea how they would play as mafia??? TMI??!? Grack wasn’t metareading ruxxar as town there, he was jut statig ruxxar was the only one silly enough to vouch drawing suspicion as a good town play. Not really seeing where you saw him draw a metaread conclusion
This.
I wasn't calling him town in that post. I was saying that only he could possibly think that doing that would be a good idea.
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On October 14 2017 08:10 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 08:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
He didnt say "mafia wont do that", he specifically said "rux will only do that as town" I mean.. I don’t think he specifically SAID those exact words, but semantics.
do you have a point that you want to make about gracks read on rux?
Because right now it looks like you are arguing about it for the sake of arguing
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On October 14 2017 08:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 08:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
happykrogan
MyLonelyLock
Conversion <-- could be being buddied, will return later with an update
darthfoley
ruXxar
xenonn40
Damerion
Oatsmaster
Grackaroni
Fecalfeast
Onegu
Damdred
coolTLname
that is alluseless why are so many people posting list posts?? To strike fear into mafia's hearts.
it would help if you actually called somebody mafia
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On October 14 2017 08:36 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 08:05 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 08:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 06:40 Grackaroni wrote:On October 14 2017 06:38 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 04:28 Grackaroni wrote:Happykrogan is almost certainly town. RuXxar is also the only player silly enough to think that drawing suspicion to himself would be a good town plan. + Show Spoiler +On October 14 2017 03:36 ruXxar wrote:
Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you.
This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious.
Have you seen any of ruxxs mafia games? I think I've skimmed some of them from when I played with him as town but I don't think I've ever seen him play mafia. so why do you use a meta read to townread someone when you have no idea how they would play as mafia??? TMI??!? Grack wasn’t metareading ruxxar as town there, he was jut statig ruxxar was the only one silly enough to vouch drawing suspicion as a good town play. Not really seeing where you saw him draw a metaread conclusion This. I wasn't calling him town in that post. I was saying that only he could possibly think that doing that would be a good idea.
but "good town plan" implies that you think hes town.
Like come on dude. Stop waffling.
Otherwise it would be "xx scum plan".
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On October 14 2017 08:45 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 08:33 Holyflare wrote:On October 14 2017 08:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
happykrogan
MyLonelyLock
Conversion <-- could be being buddied, will return later with an update
darthfoley
ruXxar
xenonn40
Damerion
Oatsmaster
Grackaroni
Fecalfeast
Onegu
Damdred
coolTLname
that is alluseless why are so many people posting list posts?? To strike fear into mafia's hearts. it would help if you actually called somebody mafia
I am only buddying and sheeping this game.
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On October 14 2017 08:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 08:45 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 08:33 Holyflare wrote:On October 14 2017 08:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
happykrogan
MyLonelyLock
Conversion <-- could be being buddied, will return later with an update
darthfoley
ruXxar
xenonn40
Damerion
Oatsmaster
Grackaroni
Fecalfeast
Onegu
Damdred
coolTLname
that is alluseless why are so many people posting list posts?? To strike fear into mafia's hearts. it would help if you actually called somebody mafia I am only buddying and sheeping this game.
Dont think thats gonna strike fear into the mafia hearts.
not doing a good job sheeping either, your vote isnt even on any bandwagon
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I haven't seen anything really really good to sheep yet. Is that a problem?
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Trust me. Mafia are afraid of my PoE abilities. Guarantee it.
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On October 14 2017 08:46 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 08:36 Grackaroni wrote:On October 14 2017 08:05 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 08:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 06:40 Grackaroni wrote:On October 14 2017 06:38 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 04:28 Grackaroni wrote:Happykrogan is almost certainly town. RuXxar is also the only player silly enough to think that drawing suspicion to himself would be a good town plan. + Show Spoiler +On October 14 2017 03:36 ruXxar wrote:
Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you.
This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious.
Have you seen any of ruxxs mafia games? I think I've skimmed some of them from when I played with him as town but I don't think I've ever seen him play mafia. so why do you use a meta read to townread someone when you have no idea how they would play as mafia??? TMI??!? Grack wasn’t metareading ruxxar as town there, he was jut statig ruxxar was the only one silly enough to vouch drawing suspicion as a good town play. Not really seeing where you saw him draw a metaread conclusion This. I wasn't calling him town in that post. I was saying that only he could possibly think that doing that would be a good idea. but "good town plan" implies that you think hes town. Like come on dude. Stop waffling. Otherwise it would be "xx scum plan".
I don't know why I always have to have these arguments with you when they always revolve around you not being able to understand a post.
Here's what he said:
+ Show Spoiler +"To me there's two ways to solve the game.
There's the active way, were you make reads, pressure and push people.
This is what people refer to when they say "Solving the game". Aka what oats is doing.
Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you.
This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious."
I said that he would be the only one who could possibly think that this would be pro-town because it's a silly way to play and not pro-town.
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On October 14 2017 08:44 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 08:10 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 08:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
He didnt say "mafia wont do that", he specifically said "rux will only do that as town" I mean.. I don’t think he specifically SAID those exact words, but semantics. do you have a point that you want to make about gracks read on rux? Because right now it looks like you are arguing about it for the sake of arguing
Grack isn’t making any real read besides on you, which was based on a meta read he wasn’t trying to convince me or ruxxar.. so idk
I just find it interesting you ignored that fact and slammed him on something he wasn’t intending to imply
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On October 14 2017 08:55 Holyflare wrote:
I haven't seen anything really really good to sheep yet. Is that a problem?
not right now but in 24 hours its gonna be
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On October 14 2017 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:
I said that he would be the only one who could possibly think that this would be pro-town because it's a silly way to play and not pro-town.
but if hes mafia he doesnt think its protown and therefore you think hes town because you believe that he thinks he is doing something protown
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I always pocket people, surviving as town is most importabt.
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On October 14 2017 09:15 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:
I said that he would be the only one who could possibly think that this would be pro-town because it's a silly way to play and not pro-town.
but if hes mafia he doesnt think its protown and therefore you think hes town because you believe that he thinks he is doing something protown
It could be that he's town and think it's smart town play or he could be mafia and still think that it's pro-town or maybe he just got a lot of attention as mafia and thinks that is a passable excuse.
I think no matter what he thinks it's a reasonable sentence, but I wasn't really trying to place any particular inference onto the post.
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On October 14 2017 09:11 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 08:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 08:10 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 08:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
He didnt say "mafia wont do that", he specifically said "rux will only do that as town" I mean.. I don’t think he specifically SAID those exact words, but semantics. do you have a point that you want to make about gracks read on rux? Because right now it looks like you are arguing about it for the sake of arguing Grack isn’t making any real read besides on you, which was based on a meta read he wasn’t trying to convince me or ruxxar.. so idk I just find it interesting you ignored that fact and slammed him on something he wasn’t intending to imply
I did try to convince you/Ruxxar but that's not an easy thing to do. Right now a lot of what I'm working off of is just a feel for whose posting seems weird to me out of the people I've played with before.
That won't be worth much in convincing people unless other people who have played with him also feel that his posting is different, which it seems like they don't.
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On October 14 2017 09:27 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 09:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:
I said that he would be the only one who could possibly think that this would be pro-town because it's a silly way to play and not pro-town.
but if hes mafia he doesnt think its protown and therefore you think hes town because you believe that he thinks he is doing something protown It could be that he's town and think it's smart town play or he could be mafia and still think that it's pro-town or maybe he just got a lot of attention as mafia and thinks that is a passable excuse. I think no matter what he thinks it's a reasonable sentence, but I wasn't really trying to place any particular inference onto the post.
So i was wrong about the reason why you wanted to point out rux's play. So did you post that for a reason or you just wanted to have some fun?
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On October 14 2017 08:08 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 06:59 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Hey darthfoley care to share your reads so far on the ruxxar, oats, damdred, or anybody else? You are currently pretty useless. Care to share some of your expertise with a nooby like myself. K Thnx. what’s your reason on ruxxar being top scum read? is he still posting too much fluff ?
No he stopped posting only fluff after his list. But I still don't like him playing anti-town for the first half of the day. I don't agree that him "posting fluff" to get other people to talk about him is a valid strategy he had from the start of the game but rather an excuse for why he did it when he got called out by many people for doing it. I only see scum intentions coming from that perspective imo.
However I like the direction of his last few posts which seem more pro-town than his entire game up to that point.
TLDR: still scum read, a little improved but not much.
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