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Happykrogan is almost certainly town.
RuXxar is also the only player silly enough to think that drawing suspicion to himself would be a good town plan.
+ Show Spoiler +On October 14 2017 03:36 ruXxar wrote:
Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you.
This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious.
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On October 14 2017 04:26 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 04:10 happykrogan wrote:On October 14 2017 03:36 ruXxar wrote:On October 14 2017 02:03 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 13 2017 22:34 ruXxar wrote:
Going to form a Poe list later tonight. Still waiting... On October 13 2017 23:56 ruXxar wrote:On October 13 2017 23:38 happykrogan wrote:
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.
flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise
It's a newbie game, so I'm taking the liberty of giving you some friendly advice. By all means, do your own thing. -- See, the thing is that activity by itself is not a sole measure of towniness. And if you asked me, I wouldn't say that I'm even trying very hard to solve the game right now. Right now you're undermining the intelligence of the rest of the players in the game by assuming that they don't see that I'm posting fluff. I'm pretty sure they do know. And if they don't know, then I can confirm that is exactly what I'm doing. Your post was a good idea, don't get get me wrong, but in my experience it's a terrible scum indicator. This is all according to your logic: - activity doesn't make you town (therefore you fluff doesn't necessarily make you town) - not trying to solve the game (anti-town mentality, only useful for mafia) - agrees that has been posting fluff None of this is helpful to town in any way. I think rux is probably scum now. The only "useful" thing coming from him is that people are posting about him mostly, but there are better ways to get people involved. 1) Activity is not a sole indicator of towniness. But more often than not, active people are town, with some exceptions. Mafia has no need to drive the game from day 1 unless they are feeling pressured. With the town to mafia ratio being the way it is, town is most likey to lynch one of their own, while mafia can throw out weak sheeps or town reads of the lynch target to get post flip karma. 2) To me there's two ways to solve the game. There's the active way, were you make reads, pressure and push people. This is what people refer to when they say "Solving the game". Aka what oats is doing. Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you. This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious. The end result of both methods is the same, you usually end up in a heated debate with some people where emotions shine through and you're able to get a better read on them. No matter if I'm pushing people or the one being pushed by people, I'm getting information that I can use to form reads and in the end I will be able to make a better informed decision when choosing my lynch target. Ok that's interesting. I don't know yet if I believe you but it sounds logical. I unvote for now and observe if your posts get better. I'm not a fan of your list post though. I actually hope you are town. You made me laugh with your defense. BTW does anyone else think it's mafia indicative that Holyflare's posts raised my confidence? Ok wait while writing I changed my opinion. My vote is in a good place. You did'nt get better. I let the post how it is you can follow my thought process. What was it that HF posted that changed your lean into a read?
It just gave me confidence that a he townread me, said my read was good and saw the same things like me (You trying to coach me away from my read for example).
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On October 14 2017 04:33 happykrogan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 04:26 ruXxar wrote:On October 14 2017 04:10 happykrogan wrote:On October 14 2017 03:36 ruXxar wrote:On October 14 2017 02:03 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 13 2017 22:34 ruXxar wrote:
Going to form a Poe list later tonight. Still waiting... On October 13 2017 23:56 ruXxar wrote:On October 13 2017 23:38 happykrogan wrote:
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.
flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise
It's a newbie game, so I'm taking the liberty of giving you some friendly advice. By all means, do your own thing. -- See, the thing is that activity by itself is not a sole measure of towniness. And if you asked me, I wouldn't say that I'm even trying very hard to solve the game right now. Right now you're undermining the intelligence of the rest of the players in the game by assuming that they don't see that I'm posting fluff. I'm pretty sure they do know. And if they don't know, then I can confirm that is exactly what I'm doing. Your post was a good idea, don't get get me wrong, but in my experience it's a terrible scum indicator. This is all according to your logic: - activity doesn't make you town (therefore you fluff doesn't necessarily make you town) - not trying to solve the game (anti-town mentality, only useful for mafia) - agrees that has been posting fluff None of this is helpful to town in any way. I think rux is probably scum now. The only "useful" thing coming from him is that people are posting about him mostly, but there are better ways to get people involved. 1) Activity is not a sole indicator of towniness. But more often than not, active people are town, with some exceptions. Mafia has no need to drive the game from day 1 unless they are feeling pressured. With the town to mafia ratio being the way it is, town is most likey to lynch one of their own, while mafia can throw out weak sheeps or town reads of the lynch target to get post flip karma. 2) To me there's two ways to solve the game. There's the active way, were you make reads, pressure and push people. This is what people refer to when they say "Solving the game". Aka what oats is doing. Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you. This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious. The end result of both methods is the same, you usually end up in a heated debate with some people where emotions shine through and you're able to get a better read on them. No matter if I'm pushing people or the one being pushed by people, I'm getting information that I can use to form reads and in the end I will be able to make a better informed decision when choosing my lynch target. Ok that's interesting. I don't know yet if I believe you but it sounds logical. I unvote for now and observe if your posts get better. I'm not a fan of your list post though. I actually hope you are town. You made me laugh with your defense. BTW does anyone else think it's mafia indicative that Holyflare's posts raised my confidence? Ok wait while writing I changed my opinion. My vote is in a good place. You did'nt get better. I let the post how it is you can follow my thought process. What was it that HF posted that changed your lean into a read? It just gave me confidence that a he townread me, said my read was good and saw the same things like me (You trying to coach me away from my read for example).
And what do you make of the fact that he called your scum read on me "the best read in the game", but he himself is neither calling me scum nor voting for me?
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On October 14 2017 04:47 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 04:33 happykrogan wrote:On October 14 2017 04:26 ruXxar wrote:On October 14 2017 04:10 happykrogan wrote:On October 14 2017 03:36 ruXxar wrote:On October 14 2017 02:03 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 13 2017 22:34 ruXxar wrote:
Going to form a Poe list later tonight. Still waiting... On October 13 2017 23:56 ruXxar wrote:On October 13 2017 23:38 happykrogan wrote:
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.
flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise
It's a newbie game, so I'm taking the liberty of giving you some friendly advice. By all means, do your own thing. -- See, the thing is that activity by itself is not a sole measure of towniness. And if you asked me, I wouldn't say that I'm even trying very hard to solve the game right now. Right now you're undermining the intelligence of the rest of the players in the game by assuming that they don't see that I'm posting fluff. I'm pretty sure they do know. And if they don't know, then I can confirm that is exactly what I'm doing. Your post was a good idea, don't get get me wrong, but in my experience it's a terrible scum indicator. This is all according to your logic: - activity doesn't make you town (therefore you fluff doesn't necessarily make you town) - not trying to solve the game (anti-town mentality, only useful for mafia) - agrees that has been posting fluff None of this is helpful to town in any way. I think rux is probably scum now. The only "useful" thing coming from him is that people are posting about him mostly, but there are better ways to get people involved. 1) Activity is not a sole indicator of towniness. But more often than not, active people are town, with some exceptions. Mafia has no need to drive the game from day 1 unless they are feeling pressured. With the town to mafia ratio being the way it is, town is most likey to lynch one of their own, while mafia can throw out weak sheeps or town reads of the lynch target to get post flip karma. 2) To me there's two ways to solve the game. There's the active way, were you make reads, pressure and push people. This is what people refer to when they say "Solving the game". Aka what oats is doing. Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you. This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious. The end result of both methods is the same, you usually end up in a heated debate with some people where emotions shine through and you're able to get a better read on them. No matter if I'm pushing people or the one being pushed by people, I'm getting information that I can use to form reads and in the end I will be able to make a better informed decision when choosing my lynch target. Ok that's interesting. I don't know yet if I believe you but it sounds logical. I unvote for now and observe if your posts get better. I'm not a fan of your list post though. I actually hope you are town. You made me laugh with your defense. BTW does anyone else think it's mafia indicative that Holyflare's posts raised my confidence? Ok wait while writing I changed my opinion. My vote is in a good place. You did'nt get better. I let the post how it is you can follow my thought process. What was it that HF posted that changed your lean into a read? It just gave me confidence that a he townread me, said my read was good and saw the same things like me (You trying to coach me away from my read for example). And what do you make of the fact that he called your scum read on me "the best read in the game", but he himself is neither calling me scum nor voting for me?
He could be mafia trying to influence me so that I am loud and set you up for a mislynch while staying in the background.
He could also think it is a good read but want to wait until he decides. There is over a day left.
You could be mafia trying to manipulate me against holyflare.
I don't know and I'm looking forward to find out
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On October 14 2017 04:47 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 04:33 happykrogan wrote:On October 14 2017 04:26 ruXxar wrote:On October 14 2017 04:10 happykrogan wrote:On October 14 2017 03:36 ruXxar wrote:On October 14 2017 02:03 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 13 2017 22:34 ruXxar wrote:
Going to form a Poe list later tonight. Still waiting... On October 13 2017 23:56 ruXxar wrote:On October 13 2017 23:38 happykrogan wrote:
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.
flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise
It's a newbie game, so I'm taking the liberty of giving you some friendly advice. By all means, do your own thing. -- See, the thing is that activity by itself is not a sole measure of towniness. And if you asked me, I wouldn't say that I'm even trying very hard to solve the game right now. Right now you're undermining the intelligence of the rest of the players in the game by assuming that they don't see that I'm posting fluff. I'm pretty sure they do know. And if they don't know, then I can confirm that is exactly what I'm doing. Your post was a good idea, don't get get me wrong, but in my experience it's a terrible scum indicator. This is all according to your logic: - activity doesn't make you town (therefore you fluff doesn't necessarily make you town) - not trying to solve the game (anti-town mentality, only useful for mafia) - agrees that has been posting fluff None of this is helpful to town in any way. I think rux is probably scum now. The only "useful" thing coming from him is that people are posting about him mostly, but there are better ways to get people involved. 1) Activity is not a sole indicator of towniness. But more often than not, active people are town, with some exceptions. Mafia has no need to drive the game from day 1 unless they are feeling pressured. With the town to mafia ratio being the way it is, town is most likey to lynch one of their own, while mafia can throw out weak sheeps or town reads of the lynch target to get post flip karma. 2) To me there's two ways to solve the game. There's the active way, were you make reads, pressure and push people. This is what people refer to when they say "Solving the game". Aka what oats is doing. Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you. This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious. The end result of both methods is the same, you usually end up in a heated debate with some people where emotions shine through and you're able to get a better read on them. No matter if I'm pushing people or the one being pushed by people, I'm getting information that I can use to form reads and in the end I will be able to make a better informed decision when choosing my lynch target. Ok that's interesting. I don't know yet if I believe you but it sounds logical. I unvote for now and observe if your posts get better. I'm not a fan of your list post though. I actually hope you are town. You made me laugh with your defense. BTW does anyone else think it's mafia indicative that Holyflare's posts raised my confidence? Ok wait while writing I changed my opinion. My vote is in a good place. You did'nt get better. I let the post how it is you can follow my thought process. What was it that HF posted that changed your lean into a read? It just gave me confidence that a he townread me, said my read was good and saw the same things like me (You trying to coach me away from my read for example). And what do you make of the fact that he called your scum read on me "the best read in the game", but he himself is neither calling me scum nor voting for me?
I have to admit this is a good post. You make me think about it.
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On October 14 2017 04:56 happykrogan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 04:47 ruXxar wrote:On October 14 2017 04:33 happykrogan wrote:On October 14 2017 04:26 ruXxar wrote:On October 14 2017 04:10 happykrogan wrote:On October 14 2017 03:36 ruXxar wrote:On October 14 2017 02:03 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 13 2017 22:34 ruXxar wrote:
Going to form a Poe list later tonight. Still waiting... On October 13 2017 23:56 ruXxar wrote:On October 13 2017 23:38 happykrogan wrote:
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.
flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise
It's a newbie game, so I'm taking the liberty of giving you some friendly advice. By all means, do your own thing. -- See, the thing is that activity by itself is not a sole measure of towniness. And if you asked me, I wouldn't say that I'm even trying very hard to solve the game right now. Right now you're undermining the intelligence of the rest of the players in the game by assuming that they don't see that I'm posting fluff. I'm pretty sure they do know. And if they don't know, then I can confirm that is exactly what I'm doing. Your post was a good idea, don't get get me wrong, but in my experience it's a terrible scum indicator. This is all according to your logic: - activity doesn't make you town (therefore you fluff doesn't necessarily make you town) - not trying to solve the game (anti-town mentality, only useful for mafia) - agrees that has been posting fluff None of this is helpful to town in any way. I think rux is probably scum now. The only "useful" thing coming from him is that people are posting about him mostly, but there are better ways to get people involved. 1) Activity is not a sole indicator of towniness. But more often than not, active people are town, with some exceptions. Mafia has no need to drive the game from day 1 unless they are feeling pressured. With the town to mafia ratio being the way it is, town is most likey to lynch one of their own, while mafia can throw out weak sheeps or town reads of the lynch target to get post flip karma. 2) To me there's two ways to solve the game. There's the active way, were you make reads, pressure and push people. This is what people refer to when they say "Solving the game". Aka what oats is doing. Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you. This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious. The end result of both methods is the same, you usually end up in a heated debate with some people where emotions shine through and you're able to get a better read on them. No matter if I'm pushing people or the one being pushed by people, I'm getting information that I can use to form reads and in the end I will be able to make a better informed decision when choosing my lynch target. Ok that's interesting. I don't know yet if I believe you but it sounds logical. I unvote for now and observe if your posts get better. I'm not a fan of your list post though. I actually hope you are town. You made me laugh with your defense. BTW does anyone else think it's mafia indicative that Holyflare's posts raised my confidence? Ok wait while writing I changed my opinion. My vote is in a good place. You did'nt get better. I let the post how it is you can follow my thought process. What was it that HF posted that changed your lean into a read? It just gave me confidence that a he townread me, said my read was good and saw the same things like me (You trying to coach me away from my read for example). And what do you make of the fact that he called your scum read on me "the best read in the game", but he himself is neither calling me scum nor voting for me? He could be mafia trying to influence me so that I am loud and set you up for a mislynch while staying in the background. He could also think it is a good read but want to wait until he decides. There is over a day left. You could be mafia trying to manipulate me against holyflare. I don't know and I'm looking forward to find out
You're in the right state of mind. Very good answer.
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I'm moving you back up to my town list krogan.
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I do not agree with these damdred faker town reads at all.
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is he a native english speaker?
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happykrogan
MyLonelyLock
Conversion <-- could be being buddied, will return later with an update
darthfoley
ruXxar
xenonn40
Damerion
Oatsmaster
Grackaroni
Fecalfeast
Onegu
Damdred
coolTLname
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On October 14 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
happykrogan
MyLonelyLock
Conversion <-- could be being buddied, will return later with an update
darthfoley
ruXxar
xenonn40
Damerion
Oatsmaster
Grackaroni
Fecalfeast
Onegu
Damdred
coolTLname
that is all
Explain darth foley.
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On October 13 2017 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 06:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 13 2017 06:43 ruXxar wrote:
You got 2 out of 3 right. Not bad!
Krogans post might look forced, but it's not indicative of mafia just yet. dude what the heck, you townread him for the post then you now just waffled back to calling him mafia not just yet??? #vote rux I think this is a good catch.I also feel wary about Damerion, though his Fecalfeast read is very likely correct.
On October 14 2017 03:10 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to give a read that I don't think too many people will agree with but I think Oatsmaster is mafia.
In this game he seems less chill compared to Hurricane and I get the sense in a few posts that he's questioning things that look unusual rather than things that I think he would normally find scummy.
So Grack. You called this a good catch from oats then right after you called him mafia.
That doesn't add up in my head. It seems too drastic a flip without even questioning oats about any of this posts.
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Day 1 Votecount
ruXxar (3): Oatsmaster, MrLonelyClock, happykrogan
Oatsmaster (1): Grackaroni
Not Voting (10): xenonn40, Damerion, darthfoley, ruXxar, Conversion, Fecalfeast, Onegu, Holyflare, Damdred, coolTLname
As of now, ruXxar is getting lynched!
Day 1 ends Saturday, Oct 14 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is mandatory. Only votes made in the voting thread are valid.
TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate.
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On October 14 2017 04:28 Grackaroni wrote:Happykrogan is almost certainly town. RuXxar is also the only player silly enough to think that drawing suspicion to himself would be a good town plan. + Show Spoiler +On October 14 2017 03:36 ruXxar wrote:
Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you.
This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious.
Have you seen any of ruxxs mafia games?
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On October 14 2017 06:08 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:On October 13 2017 06:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 13 2017 06:43 ruXxar wrote:
You got 2 out of 3 right. Not bad!
Krogans post might look forced, but it's not indicative of mafia just yet. dude what the heck, you townread him for the post then you now just waffled back to calling him mafia not just yet??? #vote rux I think this is a good catch.I also feel wary about Damerion, though his Fecalfeast read is very likely correct. Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 03:10 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to give a read that I don't think too many people will agree with but I think Oatsmaster is mafia.
In this game he seems less chill compared to Hurricane and I get the sense in a few posts that he's questioning things that look unusual rather than things that I think he would normally find scummy.
So Grack. You called this a good catch from oats then right after you called him mafia. That doesn't add up in my head. It seems too drastic a flip without even questioning oats about any of this posts.
The bottom thing that you bolded was referring to a few different posts that I referenced below in my post that you took out.
I do agree with him calling out that post from you since your original view seemed to be that Happy's posts didn't seem forced and then you replied to Damerion that his posts were forced but not scummy. I definitely wouldn't call it a drastic flip to scum read him though just because he had a post I agreed with.
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On October 14 2017 06:38 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 04:28 Grackaroni wrote:Happykrogan is almost certainly town. RuXxar is also the only player silly enough to think that drawing suspicion to himself would be a good town plan. + Show Spoiler +On October 14 2017 03:36 ruXxar wrote:
Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you.
This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious.
Have you seen any of ruxxs mafia games?
I think I've skimmed some of them from when I played with him as town but I don't think I've ever seen him play mafia.
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He posts a lot as mafia too I know.
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On October 13 2017 07:22 Damdred wrote:
Eh, I dont think I agree to much.
Hes slightly different and less attack oriented but I still think his reads are ok but he is a bit to sure about them.
On October 14 2017 03:21 Damdred wrote:
Ok, so I feel a little guilty at this point in time and I will try to be tge old Damdred this game.
Fact check away on my reads this train aint got no breaks and i aint got time to quote on phone.
Town Reads:
Damerion, he has this thing he does as town where he will have this skrt of mission statement about how he will approach the game. He has checked that, he gives clear concise reada with hard reasoning behind it, done. He also seems to try to draw people into conversation instead of existing.
Rux rux baby: Off the cuff read, the eay he responds to the pressure is town. Does t care, tries to be helpful and then establishes where he wants to be in the game. I think hes just going to be town for the tone and the lressure, but his reads were not bad.
If anyone tries to lynch rux at least today I will let slip the dogs of war and create chaos.
FF: Hey buddy we should work together, care free attitude. Gives some opinions still a bit weak on a few points, overall would not kynch today.
Gracky: Posts his thoughts, goes against thread sentiment a post or two ago. Seems to be looking where others dont, no lynch today.
Oats: Seemed to be reading the game a d his lressure wasnt horrid. It is defi ately not top town worthy but enough for a pass.
Xenon and nylonelylock are both town i feel for how they approached the game as newbs. Meh they were soitting fire earlier
Everyone else is in this null range besides hf who I love dearly but am ignoring until he wants cuddles.
What is this jump in logic on how from one post you say he is too sure about his reads where this next one that is what makes him town to you. How does one go from being "too sure of reads" to having "clear concise reads with hard reasoning"?
Seems like a weird jump in logic...
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