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On September 26 2017 14:58 Jealous wrote: MS Paint Mafia killed Mafia because no one wants to play a game where you can't just use MS Paint in every post T_T jk glhf what is dead may never die | ||
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On September 29 2017 11:23 Damerion wrote: Hello, I am glad to be here playing with you fine people. Damdred speaks highly of everyone here, and I hope the game is enjoyable. I have two things that came to mind when I read what little of the game there is. 1) Grackaroni opening post, to put it bluntly is trash. At the same time he says nothing of value and tries to buddy fecalfeast (I assume) into making an alliance when it is impossible for him to know alignments. Unless he is mafia, which associative read incoming means FecalFeast is more likely town for the way Grackaroni interacted with him. 2) I have come up with a pretty simple plan how to approach d1. Step one: The marksman (vig), should claim as soon as town agrees with this plan (which they should). Step two: We should use this power as a second lynch and have a vote in thread to direct the power. Step three: Mafia is more than likely forced into a situation where they must let the Vigilante shoot and kill him, or roleblock him. The simplest solution is to put the watcher on the Vigilante N1. Step Four: The medic should be off doing medic things more than likely on another target, if the mafia send the godfather and kill the Vigilante nothing is lost, if they roleblock him we instantly have a one and one trade. Step Five: I assume medic cannot protect multiple nights in a row, therefore if the Vigilante survives the medic should protect him here and the Watcher should look elsewhere. This plan gives us the most information that we can control and boxes the mafia into only a few moves they can make early in the game. I think we should follow this plan. Don't think that directing blues makes sense and I think you read too much into FFs posts. But I like the efforts you put into your post. | ||
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On September 29 2017 12:21 Damerion wrote: I am unsure why you have me as mafia Oatsmaster, could you expound on why you think that? Vivax why is directing blues in that way not pro-town? We would gain a good bit of information by controlling multiple lynches or kp, and have confirmed town for multiple days leading the town towards a strong circle. Why Grackanori would my reaction only come from a new lerson point od view? Why could I not be scum doing it? I am most concerned with the amount of certainty you are making decisions this early. First of all I don't think anyone is going to comply and second, with a roleblocker in the game there is no point to try and direct the vig unless we lynch the rber D1. We just lynch HF or Koshi today for saying they're going to afk and hope at least one of them is town or this game is going to be pretty boring. | ||
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But I agree that rayn might be mafia. For what he has not done yet. | ||
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On September 29 2017 19:26 Holyflare wrote: I am not really gonna care about this game like usual. I'm vt and that's all you need to know. My motivation is at a monumental low. Heh, alright. But why ? | ||
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On September 29 2017 20:05 Holyflare wrote: I dunno. Probably the length of time it took to fill up and dead forum combined with demotivating irl. If you guys post a lot then I'll probably be more interested but we've got like 1 page and it's just kinda not cool. I don't wanna lead for once. I didn't tell you about that time I almost accidentally blew up a five star hotel | ||
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With HF there's a decent chance he actually just said it cause he did it as mafia just last game and he thinks it's funny to mess with the reads on him. But for Koshi I see no such excuse. | ||
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On September 29 2017 23:04 Rels wrote: Koshi says shit like that every game No he starts with some introduction on how he's going to play this game. He doesn't just sound exhausted like he did this game when he saw his role pm | ||
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Town: Damerion Oats FF tent. HF tentatively Koshi Meh dunno: BF, Onegu, Breshke, Grack scummish: Chez, rayn, Rels Chez for saying wow in this entire game without even attempting to have fun one way or the other. Rayn for buying into Oats point about my post and posting about his schedule for no reason. But it's my weakest read of the bunch and there's a bunch of omgus coming along with it, not going to lie. Rels for talking about plan, asking for damerions games, saying that Koshi's entry was in line with town meta. Basically a bunch of semi-helpful but unproductive stuff. Koshi feels town. Reads on seemingly null people like Breshke, and his read on HF feel right for town Koshi to make. That's one reason, the other is the Koshiness of his posts (you wouldn't understand). | ||
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Either way, would lynch into afks, maybe Rels if he doesn't do a little more. I'll try to figure out more when everyone has played the game somewhat. | ||
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On September 30 2017 20:10 Koshi wrote: I liked some stuff people said about my reads. But i am not analysing it yet. Something for later. Maybe. Glhf. That's deep bro | ||
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On October 01 2017 00:18 Breshke wrote: Vivax why should i not vote damerion and go to bed Cause there's a bunch of afk ppl and others who just as much say something while saying little who deserve to be lynched more and you should feel really bad if the D1 lynch was a first timer and turned out to be town. Don't see why anyone should put Dam at more than null atm. On one hand it feels like he posts a tad too much, on the other that's really what mafia needn't do in a low activity town. | ||
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On September 29 2017 12:48 Grackaroni wrote: That's kind of hard for me to explain. You take my post very literally. "Why does Grackaroni want to team up with Fecalfeast? If he is town he wouldn't even know Fecalfeast's alignment. But if he is scum then perhaps he thinks an alliance would benefit him. But then Grackaroni might be less likely to be scum with Fecalfeast." From my experience it just seems like a thought process that I'm used to seeing from town players unfamiliar with the more trolly nature of this forum. This post I really don't like cause I can't remember the last time Grack saw someone unfamiliar with the more trolly nature on this forum. Bolded sounds made up. Post feels overexplained. Probably also a stretch to TR him for it cause Damerion pointed out something others most likely saw as what it was: early game nonsense. What'd your reaction be to someone taking one of your early bs posts and calling you scum for it? You'd laugh at it and brand him sloppy or dumb or whatever. Or maybe you're more considerate and tell him simply you weren't serious. Feels kind of off to just stamp a townread on him and be done with it. Would like to see more from Grack anyway cause this is literally the only post I can put some weight into. | ||
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I don't see all mafia being on me at once so it's quite possible Grack just voted me for butthurtery. | ||
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On October 02 2017 06:59 boxerfred wrote: I wish I was scum. I could continue lurking. I have not read a single post of this game yet. I'm not sure when I'll find the time to do that. But I'm somewhat here. By extension, wouldn't you be thinking that the mafia are lurking since that is the premise of this post? Looking forward to your reads on 1gu and other people who could fit into that description then. I also think you should be lynched if you don't post at least 10 times today. Today for me is mostly figuring out just who are misguided townies and who's scum. I think I should get a free townread already for Breshke asking me why he shouldn't just go to bed if I don't convince him of voting someone else, but it requires a certain amoung of trust put into that not just being distancing beforehand. Basically I was the only guy around at the time and he was sort of looking for my approval to just keep his vote there, then leave at that moment. So I think that speaks in my favour, I wouldn't hold it against you if you treated this as NAI but personally I think it's a useful bit of information as it betrays a mindset in which he knew I was town. With Grack I almost wanted to townread him like in my initial reaction to the votecount but after going through the filter, this really bothers me: On October 01 2017 03:08 Grackaroni wrote: Of course he could be town and wrong. But mafia has to make up reasons to scum read somebody and his narrative about my post seems downright biased towards reading me as mafia rather than a fair interpretation of what I've written. Here's the really interesting thing about the game right now: There are lots of afks. The lynch is still completely up in the air. Scum almost certainly has at least one player who is in danger of being wagoned. Regardless of Rels' alignment they need to push suspicion on somebody non-Rels because Rels hasn't said anything. Then Vivax makes that post. Fuck yeah I'm suspicious. Vivax being mafia makes a lot more sense. The way that he backed off of his read on me saying that I may just be a butthurt townie rather than mafia is not at all consistent with his town play. It seemed like appeasement rather than him actually being interested in my alignment. And his points against me were never good to begin with so that's not an argument he wants to have as scum after he almost got lynched yesterday. On October 02 2017 09:33 Grackaroni wrote: Either Rayn is a really good townie or a pretty shitty mafia. I reread Rayn's filter and to me his play makes sense. For one thing he pointed out that Breshke was likely scum before he wrote about it in his Vivax case. But also his read is not nearly as TMI as it seems. His observation about Breshke claiming to be excited and then not playing was actually good rather than him just magically singling out a mafia lurker as being scummy. Vivax being mafia makes a lot more sense. The way that he backed off of his read on me saying that I may just be a butthurt townie rather than mafia is not at all consistent with his town play. It seemed like appeasement rather than him actually being interested in my alignment. And his points against me were never good to begin with so that's not an argument he wants to have as scum after he almost got lynched yesterday. Actually I'm very interested in what you see in Vivax because I can usually see when Vivax is very townie and he just isn't this game. Grack's problem with me in the first place is that I scumread him for reasons he found unfair, but when my initial reaction to seeing the votecount speaks against my former reasons, he uses that as an argument which is ALSO opposed to his initial reaction that he was being unfairly pushed. I think his reaction to my initial arguments can come from town as it seemed natural that he felt misrepped and scumread me for it. But. I have an issue with the followup here as he's putting me into a damned if I do, damned if I don't position by claiming that changing my opinion would always just be to appease him. So he's giving me the "choice" of sticking to my earlier guns which to me doesn't make sense as I have more means of forming a read at this point than just that single post from him, which makes him scumread me. Or he's giving me the "choice" of backing off from them which is what he should have wanted in the first place, but then he still would scumread me cause I'm doing it to appease him anyway. Which summed up means for Grack: As mafia, he just gave himself an excuse for voting me off whatever I do since there is no scenario in which he is going to townread me, which is convenient when there is at least one townie who voted me yesterday. Or as town, he chose a deliberately poor play since he chose an argumentation in which I'm always mafia which can only lead to one conclusion and so is worthless for discerning one's alignment. Since I'm not sure which of the two he's after before seeing how he reacts to this, I'll await his response. | ||
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Not so pants on head if I'm not mistaken and he's the vig for his mark my words post about Breshke, in which case I commend his shot. Vig could also be one of the dudes sheeping him. Dunno. But pants on head for scumreading me. I know him for having a bias towards scumreading active townies and having a blind spot for low profile players when he's town. It's like within his town meta to pester at least one top town per game, a thing which was always practical for me when I was scum as it led to glorious mislynches when he was pestering the Palmars, the HFs, the Koshis. Usually starting D2 or D3. I am quite open to the idea of him being town with a wrong read on me. That would leave Chez to sort out among the dudes who were voting for me. And besides his vote on me and his initial lack of enthusiasm (which he says is cause of town atmosphere I think?) I really have no way to surefire tell his alignment. I didn't like his vote on me, that's for sure, but it's also all I can hold against him atm. With that, I think I want to lynch into ppl who were playing similarly to breshke/afkers. If boxerfred doesn't post more soon, I'm voting him. If Onegu doesn't post more, him too. Cause there's only so many vig bullets and I don't see any harm in lynching afks when I've got nothing better. There's also some stuff about Damerion I would like to get off my chest: His posts somehow all look the same at this point and while it superficially looks good that he keeps giving input on many players, it also looks more like a routine he's working with than genuine thoughts, I also think his read on Grack doesn't look very dynamic and more like a mantra he keeps reciting. So I'm untownreading him. Dude could be mafia. | ||
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On October 02 2017 18:54 Holyflare wrote: Good chat ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED *phtu* | ||
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On October 02 2017 22:18 Koshi wrote: @Vivax Dont think Damerion is mafia. His bravure and interactions with Breshke make him town. Also the double bus is weird. I like the rayn pants on head town read. I am also in limbo. That's why I wait on D3. You are right it's probably stupid to think that since Damerion was Breshkes only scumread. That would be suicidal level distancing. I guess he just needs to find a posting style for himself since he just started playing the game as his current one reads premeditated a lot. | ||
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On October 02 2017 06:59 boxerfred wrote: I wish I was scum. I could continue lurking. I have not read a single post of this game yet. I'm not sure when I'll find the time to do that. But I'm somewhat here. If he was scum he could continue lurking. He is scum, ergo he is lurking. Slam dunk case here boys. | ||
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On October 03 2017 19:47 Holyflare wrote: Not lynching bf. Your only alternative is rayn if I'm not mistaken? How do you expect that to happen given that most are TRing him. You should be looking for a better alternative or at least explain what makes BF town cause the little he's posted so far doesn't suggest he is. | ||
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On October 03 2017 20:34 Holyflare wrote: Perhaps you should read literally the last 10 posts good sir? BF didn't brazienly call himself mafia. He threw out some half assed reasoning for him being town and doesn't even follow through with it. He came back after a huge hiatus, so there has to be some degree of motivation for him to play (town) . And it doesn't look at all like that. | ||
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On October 03 2017 21:36 Holyflare wrote: What happened to focusing on Chezinu, vivax? I don't have a solid read on Chezinu atm. His vote on me over afk Rels was bad, but I can't call him mafia just for that. I could probably TR him if he does something about which I won't go into specifics since I don't need to hand him that thing/way of playing by myself if he's mafia. My focus right now is to transform this game into a playing field where I am guaranteed that mafia is playing and not just doing nothing while the big egos keep getting into a clinch cause all they're concentrating on is the ones actually posting the most. So we should kill BF for starters. | ||
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On October 03 2017 22:48 Holyflare wrote: Why aren't you pushing the chezinu isn't having fun like normal thing vivax? Just giving him outs instead? What do I gain from pushing multiple people at once? It's not productive. I'm pushing BF today. That's what I decided, that's what I'm going to do. | ||
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On October 03 2017 22:59 Holyflare wrote: Because one of those players has been active and you had legit points on them and the rest are afkers who have made one post and no chance of returning? I don't know if BF is going to post again. Do you? Maybe they both just do the minimum not to get modkilled right at deadline and tomorrow we're back into the usual with one less active player. And with Onegu we've already seen him not doing jack all for an entire day then showing up at DL and lynch a mafia. I'm pretty sure that of the two BF is the guy who has to die first. If it looks like they're both just cruising for the MK I'm going to be open to shenannies. Then we can bring this up again. Cause if any of them just votes within the last 30 mins they're not going to get away with it tomorrow. | ||
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He is more self conscious as mafia and at least tries to draw up something resembling a case from my experience with him. | ||
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Trying to figure out who would be a good shenanny target. Chez probably. ##Unvote ##Vote: Chez | ||
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On October 04 2017 04:53 Koshi wrote: Chez/BF/Grack/HF Only possibilities left. Good list. Now we just decide whether to kill the replacement or not. Since it appears to be sicklucker I like shenannies to somebody else. I'm really lacking someone to box around who's actually going to fight back this game. | ||
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On October 04 2017 04:54 Damerion wrote: I am stuck behind flood prevention by the site, I hope this goes through. Of course I am the Vigilante, I had FecalFeast and Grackonori s targets before I changed back to Breshke. FecalFeast I still believe is mafia, he is only worried about his survival here not actually finding mafia. He also dissapeared once a considerle amount of pressure dissapeared off of him and went onto koshi vs Holyflare. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/275302-ask-tl-staff-anything Ask if they can disable your flood control since you are a mafia player. Remember to make big puppy eyes and tell them you're filthy rich. Act as if you were in front of your president while at it. | ||
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Don't think FF should be the lynch here. | ||
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I just don't know if I can endure another day with 3 wildcards. | ||
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Meanwhile I wasted my vote, whatever. Both options didn't interest me tbh. So far 2/2 reads correct from new guy. | ||
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They have to kill Onegu tonight anyways. | ||
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Either way, you can't call both HF and me mafia at this point. | ||
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Gnight. | ||
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On October 04 2017 23:07 boxerfred wrote: I didn't receive any PM saying I got replaced. But I guess I'm replaced? Okay, glhf y'all! With only one post per day you should consider twitter over mafia. | ||
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But I really don't want want to lynch him today. Even if he's mafia it's more fun if at least he pretends to work together with townies. I'm just communicating that I plan to figure him out within the next days and that my tinfoil hattery is slowly warming up. If no one cooks up a way to figure out Chez (I can't) he should probably be the lynch. Sicklucker can just keep digging in the past to his hearts content in the meantime. On October 05 2017 08:36 Chezinu wrote: The only person the Chez Rule could apply to this game is Damerion for this post: HOWEVER, Others accused me before him. "This is it guys.... will the lay green truffle bag of chips win? Or will it be the almost valid Chez Rule - which if true will mean the rule would increase it's power and now drop the requirement of having to be the first person in thread to accuse Chezinu..." Is it true? I'll now scumread after performing my Chez Rule investigation. Damerion is the vigilante Chez :> | ||
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On October 06 2017 06:13 sicklucker wrote: like the fact chez votes koshi over ryan when im voting ryan and his only hope of not dying is voting rayn is such a townie thing to do... Why? There seems to be a consensus that Koshi should be taken into consideration before rayn. Between me and HF at least. Don't know what Damerion wants today. What do you think of this btw: On October 04 2017 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: fefe i really tried my hardest. | ||
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On October 06 2017 20:16 Koshi wrote: I think Grack is mafia. His vote yesterday kind of looks good for him. I don't agree much with the interpretation by HF that Breshke spewed him town though simply cause breshke disagreed with the reasoning used by Damerion to SR Grack. And Damerion so far has single handedly killed 2 mafias so I'm probably just voting with him. | ||
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Didn't necessarily agree with your order at the time either. Just thought that chez should be the lynch back then in the face of rayn starting to push koshi. | ||
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On October 08 2017 22:42 Holyflare wrote: Good chat guys. I'm going to be afk voting Chezinu today sorry. | ||
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On October 09 2017 19:26 Holyflare wrote: Very nice game. The only guy who can pep it up is the one getting lynched. If he doesn't bother to fight for his survival and find another lynch, then what? Don't think anyone can speak instead of Chez and in his favour either. | ||
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On October 11 2017 00:09 Holyflare wrote: I have no reason to think you're town other than your day 1 activities and the spewing. So activity wise, D1 D2 and the general content of my posts is something you put zero weight into? Or how the day FF got lynched I voiced that you could be mafia yet didn't bother to switch my vote, save FF and lynch you? That also doesn't give you a read? Regardless of the stuff breshke said and his approval seeking from me, or FF summing up how townie I am, I think there are plenty of arguments besides those to just call me lock town but you don't see them. That makes me suspicious. But you called me mafia for my vote switch when now we literally have the information that it was a town vs town situation when we had to choose between Chez and Koshi, so nothing for me to be gained there as mafia. I won't accept any other read other than lock town. | ||
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Basically HF and rayn both want SL dead by the looks of it, use this info to your advantage if you get to lylo with them. If SL is mafia here he'd want at least one of them dead by then. Whereas I'm more open towards the idea that he's town. I'd kill Grack tomorrow, that's my last will. And Damerions too. He caught two mafia. Know when to sheep. | ||
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Voting SL obviously. | ||
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On October 11 2017 06:48 Grackaroni wrote: I'm glad I'm not being voted but I don't understand why you're voting everyone else before me when you ninja voted me during the last lynch. That vote was dumb and on a whim, mostly based on me wanting to believe Damerion found all three mafias. And at the time I didn't realize that I would indirectly kill Koshi by doing that. I'm going to stick to my guns this time and give you credit for your vote on FF instead. | ||
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I'm guessing that if we no lynch, me or Grack die. So I'm going to cut to the chase: HF and SL can fight it out from where I'm standing. | ||
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On October 05 2017 09:53 sicklucker wrote: holyflare kind of looks spewed town On October 06 2017 05:33 sicklucker wrote: he was the counter wagon to ff. which ff put within one vote of lynched early before he was forced to vote for him for survival. ff could have voted me or chez or someone. there was something else too but I forgot Sicklucker should always 100 % scumread HF in this situation no? Unless he starts claiming that me or Grack are mafia. But then I want to see him dismantle his own reasoning above with his own words. | ||
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Rayn kill could have been a HF kill however. It literally all depends on SL and how well he plays these days. I'm going to try and no-lynch after all. | ||
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There are many hints on how he handled us differently here and there so maybe we'll figure it out if you are town. But I need your thoughts not mine atm. | ||
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It's not like you are obliged to post hourly. I look into the game cause I have fun playing it and talking to you folks attempting to make the right decision, so I don't mind another cycle. | ||
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On October 12 2017 07:41 Vivax wrote: I'm just asking you to do a minimum of analysis based on flipped scum filters. If you vote no- lynch you have it too, why should I vote HF instead of you voting no-lynch? (the tie-breaker) | ||
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So I voted HF as you requested, as placeholder at least. In my tinfoil land there's room for Grack to be mafia, but very very little. I wouldn't give him 100% town but 80%: - he would have had to murder FF when he could have voted HF. And he didn't have to. - His reaction to me calling him mafia during the night would have had to be an odd post from scum and seemed pretty townie. Besides, I would have probs been the best kill for him after that post. | ||
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I don't know if FF asked to be killed in the qt but it would have to be a really ballsy bus otherwise. Not even a tiny chance to save FF there? Why not. Also, that blue snipe on N1. I don't believe that afk BF, breshke or FF did that. On October 04 2017 04:41 Holyflare wrote: an oatsmaster kill is someone not shit at mafia as mafia On October 04 2017 04:42 Holyflare wrote: aka rayn is mafia On October 04 2017 04:42 Holyflare wrote: aka | ||
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On October 12 2017 08:59 sicklucker wrote: also to be really scummy. if im the last mafia why is this game even going on. why not just mod kill and end it. hosts didnt want the game going. no player really did I don't share the same bad attitude. There is no logical reason for this game to be different than any other game other than a higher degree of laziness, the usual afks here and there and some kind of mass hysteria that makes you say that. | ||
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If you are the last mafia obviously you are playing out yourself vs HF with a decent chance of winning the duel. So seems like a pretty bad what if to pose here when the answer is so obvious. | ||
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Since you're lacking that, maybe you are mafia. | ||
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It's hard to see in all the foam and spittle that's flying around. | ||
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On October 12 2017 21:26 Holyflare wrote: You have to no lynch because it quite easily could be vivax since he moved his vote from chez and has been off wagon every time. I want the nk to clarify this game further and vivax shouldn't have a problem with that. Leaving his vote on me and holding the game hostage after sl's non effort and using wifom from me actually lynching mafia is a bs reason to idle it on me. What stopped me from just lynching sl and winning the game then? Nothing for me to be gained by pushing you except when um town. From how this mylo is being played I still think grack could ve mafia simply cause he's doing exactly that: parking his vote on the last lynch and peacing out while he doesnt have to do anything without pressure. What should my pressure be except me trying to find the correct lynch? | ||
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knowing i do the least necessary as mafia i wouldnt be jugglibg with possibilities at this point instead of justifying an easy vote anf pushing that. | ||
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I'm inclined to stick my vote somewhere else for today. Maybe SL, maybe Grack, maybe no-lynch. I'm not awfully confident SL is mafia here. Maybe Grack was just that good this game. He still tried to lynch me D1 when 2 mafias didn't vote to save me. I am actually only alive cause Rels self-voted. And maybe I'm just not as good as Damerion to make another call than him this game. | ||
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On October 13 2017 02:20 Holyflare wrote: Just vote no lynch you jabroni. It feels good to make it look like you're getting lynched tho. I'm waiting a little. | ||
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We have 1 lynch and I'd like it to be the guy who caught 2 mafias this game who decides it. If we no lynch, SL just dies tomorrow. | ||
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You don't need to be worried though, I know already where my vote is going to end up. | ||
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On October 13 2017 05:57 Grackaroni wrote: Welp were fucked We are about to kill his unholyness | ||
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Me cause I could have just won the game as scum. And Grack cause if he voted HF he'd have won the game too knowing that SL is afk. One more cycle to figure out HF vs SL without being called mafia. | ||
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Just shoot Grack thanks. | ||
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I trust Grack will see the light too ultimately when he stops being infatuated with HF whose vote on FF meant nothing. FF probably thanked him for it. | ||
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I literally have no idea how he's going to figure out HF vs you but it might be enough if he recalls what calibre HF is as mafia. | ||
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Giving HF a scare was also worth it no matter his alignment. I'll try to figure out stuff from reactions tomorrow before the NK. | ||
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I like the enthusiasm when you think you found a slip. | ||
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Logic demands that SL is lynched tomorrow. But my gut thinks there's something wrong as usual. Shreds of paranoia about Grack mostly. | ||
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On October 13 2017 06:52 Vivax wrote: There's a chance Grack didn't realize that he could have hammered HF as mafia but I don't assume that cause that would be insulting his intelligence. From this game we will be able to conclude that even if Grack wins as scum, he was still a dumb mafia. So at least town gets a consolation prize. Only if he is mafia obviously. I literally have no idea how he's going to figure out HF vs you but it might be enough if he recalls what calibre HF is as mafia. Congratulations and well played Grack! | ||
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SL had a townie tone but with the shitty slot he had to replace all the odds were stacked against him. HF super burnt out didn't want to allow the idea that Grack could be mafia. And Damerion with a 100 % guess rate. | ||
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