[M][N] Names Are Hard 2 - Page 49

On August 26 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something.

On August 26 2017 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright HF. The reason i don't think you should write off Artanis & Skynx as non-scumbuddies is the following;

The last game i was town in Skynx started the game in a "similar" manner (you remember his "rayn is scum but i didnt read the thread" case). That case was based on his understanding of my meta from the previous game where i was mafia. I think it's quite safe to say Skynx' early game (at least as town) and opener is heavily based on meta (and feels for it). I believe there is a high chance Skynx is trying to imitate this as mafia here. The reasoning is the following:

The whole thing on Koshi was very very stupid, like there was literally no thought process behind what he said. However that doesn't really make him mafia. What caught my attention was when he was making conclusions while at the same time saying "my post ("case" on Koshi) didn't make any sense at all in the first place" since you can't even start to make conclusions when the premises are already wrong and you KNOW it (why would ANYONE, with or without Koshi being mafia NOT call out dumb stuff liek that?). The rest of it + what you brought up was already discussed.

Now based on the above, i think there is also a chance Artanis realizes this Skynx' last game thingy. I think it's even likely it has been discussed in scum QT in case they are both mafia. Therefore it makes perfect sense that Artanis would soft-defend Skynx like he did. I mean like, i am not saying this is something that makes Artanis mafia. I am just saying it is entirely possible for him to be mafia with Skynx. The reasons i think Artanis is mafia are:

And then there is also this post:

Why would i focus on anything other than his super duper terrible read?
I don't understand what the second sentence means?
"Normally rayn goes after people that townread him for reasons he finds bad" -- which means? Is Artanis saying his townread on me was bad? Shouldn't it make him mafia, not me? OR what is he trying to say here?

I have absolutely zero clue what Artanis is trying to do in this game or why he even comes up with his conclusions.

On August 26 2017 19:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Skynx literally just threw out a random thought there. I do that all the time. The fact that you're putting so much stock into this is ridiculous.

On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say

On August 26 2017 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:

See even you can't see this for whatever reason. I don't care if his conclusion was ridiculous. That doesn't necessarily make him scummy. The point is how he explains the "why did you do this" doesn't line up with any sort of townie thought process.

It is very simple.
Do stuff and say your conclusion is X, when someone asks you to explain take someone else's comment that looks better and say you actually did Y.

No way.

On August 26 2017 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like really really closely read this:

Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread:
"he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened?

...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta.

Well done.

On August 25 2017 05:39 Skynx wrote:

That's what im trying to say, TW is not necessarily a +1 imo

On August 26 2017 19:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If Skynx is mafia I don't see it being terribly likely that Koshi is.

On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:

That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point.

It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game.