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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 13 2017 20:34 GMT
#103
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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 13 2017 21:22 GMT
#134
koshi is judge

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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 13 2017 21:49 GMT
#144
normally i like people who tell other people to go fuck themselves in the face of pressure and find it to be a town trait. but jealous consciously took the time to write his name in green on his shirt. i feel like taking the time to consciously communicate your alignment color via color in a drawing wouldn't be at the forefront of the mind of a townie. so he is whatever mafia is called this game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 13 2017 21:52 GMT
#147
he is kinda funny tho, but then he said kappa and ruined it all.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 13 2017 22:12 GMT
#156
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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 13 2017 22:15 GMT
#158
why the fuck am i a clock with a misspelled name. fuck this shit.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 13 2017 22:18 GMT
#161
there's a dude who plays here who's UN is ticktock...i feel insulted on a profound level.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 13 2017 22:20 GMT
#163
On August 14 2017 07:11 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 07:10 CopCake wrote:
Didnt like his "I have a plan" and said nothing about it

that's pretty weak


you got an alternative read with some girth?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 13 2017 22:36 GMT
#170
On August 14 2017 07:22 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 14 2017 07:20 ritoky wrote:
On August 14 2017 07:11 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 14 2017 07:10 CopCake wrote:
Didnt like his "I have a plan" and said nothing about it

that's pretty weak


you got an alternative read with some girth?

nope. so no one else is allowed to either


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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 13 2017 22:38 GMT
#171
On August 14 2017 07:32 CopCake wrote:
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On August 14 2017 07:18 ritoky wrote:
there's a dude who plays here who's UN is ticktock...i feel insulted on a profound level.


What do you wanna be?

You have 5 min. If you don't answer you gotta be with the clock.


a mahou shoujo
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 13 2017 22:39 GMT
#172
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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 06:39 GMT
#194
i am at lunch....having a rough one tonight. 4 codes in 3 and a half hours, no bueno.

what's up?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 06:50 GMT
#200
On August 14 2017 15:42 geript wrote:
Do you think it's fair to read Jealous as if he were Chez? Do you think TW looks off? Also, why were you so "mad but not mad" about being called ticktock?


idk who jealous is so i have no context on that. tw is being a demolitionist so far, not a builder. wow it's great that you shit on other people's reads, but you have no alternatives or don't try to get the ball really rolling. so if that is what "off" means to you, that is what tumblewood is to me. if he magically flipped mafia i wouldn't be surprised. the clock thing was partly joking, but partly actually being hurt. i feel like i got everyone else's on some level or they were clever or cute....and i am a fucking clock with a misspelled name....dunno, was just sad
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 06:51 GMT
#202
On August 14 2017 15:46 geript wrote:
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On August 14 2017 15:39 ritoky wrote:
i am at lunch....having a rough one tonight. 4 codes in 3 and a half hours, no bueno.

what's up?

And ugh. Cardiac floor?


Emergency room, though sometimes when they get turfed to ICU I follow them.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 06:54 GMT
#204
On August 14 2017 15:49 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky is mafia. That is all.


swing and a miss.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 06:57 GMT
#205
On August 14 2017 15:53 geript wrote:
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On August 14 2017 15:51 ritoky wrote:
On August 14 2017 15:46 geript wrote:
On August 14 2017 15:39 ritoky wrote:
i am at lunch....having a rough one tonight. 4 codes in 3 and a half hours, no bueno.

what's up?

And ugh. Cardiac floor?


Emergency room, though sometimes when they get turfed to ICU I follow them.

How do you handle the craziness? I need more stability in my life which is currently a bit ironic.


idk, i don't do well when i am not under pressure or a deadline. been that way all my life, i get lazy or bored or complacent. ER is often like a constant deadline so it allows me to thrive. it also often requires extra bodies and i aggressively work overtime for the money. got 3 kids now....so.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 07:01 GMT
#207
cool. you're wrong. but you'll get your shot to lynch me this phase and every other phase cuz koshi is a judge and he will die on a hill to get me into the lynch pool every time.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 07:11 GMT
#210
anyways, back to work i go. hopefully the 2nd half is better. hf's bad read on me is nai.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 07:24 GMT
#213
On August 14 2017 16:16 Holyflare wrote:
And why is it a bad read? Do you think you posted meaningful content absolutely anywhere in the thread before I posted that read?

Right now it looks like you're hardcore discrediting it just for the sake of it.


it's bad because it's wrong. i think i have been about 20% useful this game, which is par for the thread. and lol at "hardcore", i don't think i have or will do anything "hardcore" this entire game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 18:14 GMT
#379
wait a second....there's people in this game that don't have geript as basically confirmed town? are they on crack?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 18:16 GMT
#382
On August 15 2017 03:15 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 15 2017 03:14 ritoky wrote:
wait a second....there's people in this game that don't have geript as basically confirmed town? are they on crack?

why is geript confirmed town


mafia doesn't angle shoot to the point the mod gets involved.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 18:19 GMT
#383
On August 15 2017 03:15 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On August 15 2017 03:14 ritoky wrote:
wait a second....there's people in this game that don't have geript as basically confirmed town? are they on crack?

Why isn't rayn part of that circle?


was he hugely involved in the angle shooting? i mostly remember geript spearheading it, if he was he gets half points.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 18:23 GMT
#385
why is angle shooting NAI? every time i have seen people angle shoot really hard (myself included) it has come from town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 18:35 GMT
#393
On August 15 2017 03:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On August 15 2017 03:23 ritoky wrote:
why is angle shooting NAI? every time i have seen people angle shoot really hard (myself included) it has come from town.

I may be misunderstanding what you mean by angle shooting. If it's the judge manipulation stuff, scum get power roles too.


angle shooting is a poker term in which a player tries to manipulate the rules of the game in an ambiguously illegal way in order to gain an edge over their opponents.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 18:35 GMT
#394
On August 15 2017 03:29 Damdred wrote:
Geript will never be town to me ritoky, our trust is broken.


why?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 20:06 GMT
#425
On August 15 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Btw "breaking" "bending" rules is not town aligment tell, like honestlt I can perfectly mimic myself having a badass plan and shit and people would be like "Oh my god that is so meta town cake".

It is absurd.

Fucking judge of this thread, not others.


all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...

“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 20:14 GMT
#433
i feel like artanis baited us into a thinly veiled cell mafia game. that's kinda how this game feels to me....except i don't get to spam american flags to try an win mayor.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 20:17 GMT
#435
On August 15 2017 05:15 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 05:06 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Btw "breaking" "bending" rules is not town aligment tell, like honestlt I can perfectly mimic myself having a badass plan and shit and people would be like "Oh my god that is so meta town cake".

It is absurd.

Fucking judge of this thread, not others.


all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps



You weren't my top mafia read but now you are for lying.

I said Damred was the mafia more likely.


On August 15 2017 02:45 CopCake wrote:
If I have to lynch someone I think I would lynch Ritoki
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 20:29 GMT
#443
i mean either:

a) damdred is your top mafia read and you want to lynch someone who isn't your top mafia read which is ????????????????????????????

or

b) i am your top mafia read who you want to lynch and you're lying.

so which?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 14 2017 20:39 GMT
#452
my top 3 would have always had hopeless and geript.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 01:27 GMT
#584
i feel literal nothing about way too many people in this game. maybe it is because i am not directly empowered to lynch, maybe it was because i was nagged into playing and i am not mentally invested....dunno. i just haven't read very much of anything compelling in the thread. and i realize i have done basically nothing to make a substantial difference either, but it is all pretty bleh.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 01:34 GMT
#588
i think geript is town for angle shooting, i think hopeless is town for being a ball buster and that's pretty much it. i wouldn't be surprised if TW is mafia for how he came out of the blocks tearing ppl's opinions down and not trying to build anything up but i am not sold on that. the whole shit surrounding rayn is a pile of nothing to me. ff's read on hopeless is lazy, nitpicky, and a stretch. i don't understand basically anything copcake types and it seems like she is in a different reality. and there's a guy in the thread who the judges think is town drawing pictures and self-proclaiming dunce which is offputting to me but he is funny which tends to be town indicative. damdred is just floating through like a whispy cloud who doesn't wanna be tied down to reads. it is all just so fucking meh. none of it has me excited.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 01:49 GMT
#599
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 01:53 GMT
#600
On August 15 2017 10:38 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 10:34 ritoky wrote:
i think geript is town for angle shooting, i think hopeless is town for being a ball buster and that's pretty much it. i wouldn't be surprised if TW is mafia for how he came out of the blocks tearing ppl's opinions down and not trying to build anything up but i am not sold on that. the whole shit surrounding rayn is a pile of nothing to me. ff's read on hopeless is lazy, nitpicky, and a stretch. i don't understand basically anything copcake types and it seems like she is in a different reality. and there's a guy in the thread who the judges think is town drawing pictures and self-proclaiming dunce which is offputting to me but he is funny which tends to be town indicative. damdred is just floating through like a whispy cloud who doesn't wanna be tied down to reads. it is all just so fucking meh. none of it has me excited.


What happened to you?

You became pretty angry from being a clock and now you are fucking emo?


real talk, i was never really that mad about the clock thing. it was more like a last kid picked in dodgeball issue. i felt like thought/cleverness had been put into most of them except for mine which felt tacked on. that's my opinion, if you put equally as much thought/effort into mine as everyone else's or my name is just too hard to make into something cute/clever then fuck me for caring and having a shitty name.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 01:56 GMT
#601
i am gonna click a filter and read it. someone give me a name of which filter i should click. not geript or hopeless, i made my mind up on those two for now.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 02:07 GMT
#608
On August 15 2017 10:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.

If you had to rank them

1 - Most town
2 - Kinda town
3 - Not really town

What's your call?


copcake - scum lean for inconsistency, her tw read (if i even understand it right) being sheeped from hf who partially sheeped it from me but i am scum, and her obsession with the clock aka omgus

hf - nothing yet. town hf lynches mafia and dies/eats shots, town mafia pushes forward his agenda consistently, town hf doesn't give much shits about outside opinions so long as things head his direction. mafia hf aggressively pockets players, lynches townies and stays alive, and has sudden shifts in his agenda post-nks to suit his new agenda (or sometimes he does this super cool slight pivot thing that i wish i was capable of). he hasn't had the opportunity to blossom yet.

jealous - ???? he's funny, but proclaims self dunce which makes it feel like an act and since his geript boner died he has felt pretty preipheral, pretty hard meh.

so basically i reject your categories.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 02:09 GMT
#609
town mafia = town hf above
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 02:13 GMT
#611
On August 15 2017 11:09 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 11:07 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 10:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.

If you had to rank them

1 - Most town
2 - Kinda town
3 - Not really town

What's your call?


copcake - scum lean for inconsistency, her tw read (if i even understand it right) being sheeped from hf who partially sheeped it from me but i am scum, and her obsession with the clock aka omgus

hf - nothing yet. town hf lynches mafia and dies/eats shots, town mafia pushes forward his agenda consistently, town hf doesn't give much shits about outside opinions so long as things head his direction. mafia hf aggressively pockets players, lynches townies and stays alive, and has sudden shifts in his agenda post-nks to suit his new agenda (or sometimes he does this super cool slight pivot thing that i wish i was capable of). he hasn't had the opportunity to blossom yet.

jealous - ???? he's funny, but proclaims self dunce which makes it feel like an act and since his geript boner died he has felt pretty preipheral, pretty hard meh.

so basically i reject your categories.


Do you notice that having change of moods is scummy right?

Like people had called me scum several times and I am still happy as fuck because I feel no guilt.


i think the exact opposite in most cases. but no point in going down that hole.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:01 GMT
#971
am i really going to have to vote for copcake in this top shit? really....is that what is about to happen....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:06 GMT
#976
rayn seems kinda town to me. i don't know why people are defending jealous' "reads posts". the last picture one was kinda something but the other 2 are just thread/post summary pure and simple. they don't actually have any original thought. still no clue what that makes him, but defending him like he is town jesus over that is lul.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:10 GMT
#981
And holyflare joins the scummy pile.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:16 GMT
#985
Cool beans!
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:17 GMT
#986
I hear I also challenge you a ton on day 1 as mafia, it's a thing I do.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:28 GMT
#988
I think your read on rayn is mostly garbo about non sequitur and unmet expectations and the method you're choosing to push it is also unconvincing garbo about making the player look dumb/contradicting themselves rather than categorizing the play as scum indicative. Where's your bullet point list that you spam on repeat 80 times making sure no one ever forgets these points that make you infallible and him always mafia?

To that end I think rayn's reads are pretty fine.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:31 GMT
#991
Well I don't know where rayn got his damdred town read from, that one is weird.
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ritoky
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August 15 2017 19:33 GMT
#994
On August 16 2017 04:31 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 16 2017 04:28 ritoky wrote:
I think your read on rayn is mostly garbo about non sequitur and unmet expectations and the method you're choosing to push it is also unconvincing garbo about making the player look dumb/contradicting themselves rather than categorizing the play as scum indicative. Where's your bullet point list that you spam on repeat 80 times making sure no one ever forgets these points that make you infallible and him always mafia?

To that end I think rayn's reads are pretty fine.


I can't be bothered to do that when 90% of the game is on board with it. This game mode is also semi garbage because I can't make a case to get people to vote someone when I don't even know who is going to be up for lynch.


I agree with the 2nd part, I feel like my wings are clipped because even if I felt super compelled to lynch someone I have to convince koshi to allow me to, which ain't happening.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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August 15 2017 19:41 GMT
#998
copcake are you town? can you tell me who else is town?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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August 15 2017 19:43 GMT
#1002
holy shit conversion has a 4 page filter and i remember like none of it LOL
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
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August 15 2017 19:45 GMT
#1004
make a deal to read eachother's filters and post a read after?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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August 15 2017 20:00 GMT
#1024
On August 15 2017 21:45 Conversion wrote:
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On August 15 2017 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
On August 15 2017 21:39 Conversion wrote:
too little time to actually read through filters atm so I'll give a dumb list like y'all

null:
everyone not on my second list

scummy:
HF if he lives past N1 and I get lynched and I flip town
Hopeless1der


So I'm town the :D :D

Why hopeless?


I'm reading his filter and honestly his pushes seem weak at best and forced. deflects my question (like if ur a good town all u have to do is answer me and wave me off, it's not hard).

nothing in his filter screams I AM TOWN and screams I AM MAFIA TRYING HARD

not going to overwhelmingly call him scum b/c I misread town play as scum (see: newbie mafia) so someone can convince me that's not the case if they want to


I am interested in which posts made you think this and why.

Also why rels as the subject of afk discussion but not 1gu? Did you feel like people were deflecting off of rels or uncharacteristically avoiding him compared to gu?

Also, I don't have a distinct impression of who you think is town from your filter, so who is town?
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ritoky
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August 15 2017 20:06 GMT
#1033
On August 16 2017 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 16 2017 04:51 Conversion wrote:
@rayn if you want to actually play the game instead of calling everyone else shit outside of 2 players, please do. I've been lurking around TL mafia and you are one of the more memorable names, so it means I respect your play

if you're going to just fling shit at a wall and try to assume I'm making reads I'm not, you can go choke on a bag of dicks and fuck off

I will say i was shit in case i am wrong but i am not.
You can think otherwise, you can want to lynch me, you can want to lycnh whoever you want. But if you don't lynch HF D1 or D2 you will lose. If you are town that is.

Don't tell me to go choke on a bag of dicks, because you can be fucking sure you will get that bag thrown at your face, i promise you that. I dont care if i am modkilled, i wil just throw it and make sure it hurts, so do not try me, same as Hopeless. I am not in the mood rn...


being serious here after coming off of a rough fucking day the other day, but i hope you get the time over the course of the next day or so to do something you love or to eat one of your favorite foods or some random stranger is kind to you. some times we can't pick ourselves up and need something else to do it for us. i hope you get that to make the world less shitty for you.
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ritoky
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August 15 2017 20:07 GMT
#1034
On August 16 2017 05:03 CopCake wrote:
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On August 16 2017 04:59 Jealous wrote:
On August 16 2017 04:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 16 2017 04:51 Jealous wrote:
On August 16 2017 04:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm gonna have lunch instead of filtering copcake because I don't want to do what 1derboy asked me to do. I see you conversion I'll do it for you later

I asked you to filter Damdred, why ignore my request as well?

Didn't see that sure i can do that

Thanks! My biggest question was why you read him as town for the same frame if posts that I scumlean on him and why you would disagree with my impression on his posts. You can see my read in my filter.

As far as HF/CC and the vote cycle (it's still going right? Still on mobile so I haven't checked), I can understand people both believing in and being wary of HF because that's where I'm at, but CopCake makes very little sense sometimes and has contributed even less so I am puzzled as to why anyone would vote for her at all. Vote analysis in a cycle or two should be interesting.


Because I am cute

And because people know this is how I play.


can you answer my question.....who is town?
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ritoky
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August 15 2017 20:12 GMT
#1040
On August 16 2017 05:04 Conversion wrote:
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On August 16 2017 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 16 2017 04:51 Conversion wrote:
@rayn if you want to actually play the game instead of calling everyone else shit outside of 2 players, please do. I've been lurking around TL mafia and you are one of the more memorable names, so it means I respect your play

if you're going to just fling shit at a wall and try to assume I'm making reads I'm not, you can go choke on a bag of dicks and fuck off

I will say i was shit in case i am wrong but i am not.
You can think otherwise, you can want to lynch me, you can want to lycnh whoever you want. But if you don't lynch HF D1 or D2 you will lose. If you are town that is.

Don't tell me to go choke on a bag of dicks, because you can be fucking sure you will get that bag thrown at your face, i promise you that. I dont care if i am modkilled, i wil just throw it and make sure it hurts, so do not try me, same as Hopeless. I am not in the mood rn...


boohoo you're not in the mood yet you're going to act like an arrogant fuckface. guess what? I'm not in any fucking mood to take your shit either

duly noted and ignored for the rest of the game. enjoy being whatever the fuck you're being


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ritoky
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August 15 2017 20:23 GMT
#1054
voted copcake. just don't trust hf or jealous......somehow i trust copcake more.....it was a bad selection by the judges
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ritoky
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August 15 2017 20:24 GMT
#1057
gonna take a guess and we got all 3 r's up for lynch. me, rels, rayn.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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August 15 2017 20:44 GMT
#1097
On August 16 2017 05:42 Conversion wrote:
I'm parking my vote and not looking at this thread until tomorrow morning, nor am I reading anything that was written after winner post


? could you do what you said you were doing and give a read on my filter or respond to my questions about yours first?
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ritoky
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August 15 2017 20:51 GMT
#1108
On August 16 2017 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 15 2017 05:06 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Btw "breaking" "bending" rules is not town aligment tell, like honestlt I can perfectly mimic myself having a badass plan and shit and people would be like "Oh my god that is so meta town cake".

It is absurd.

Fucking judge of this thread, not others.


all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...

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On August 15 2017 05:17 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 05:15 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 05:06 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Btw "breaking" "bending" rules is not town aligment tell, like honestlt I can perfectly mimic myself having a badass plan and shit and people would be like "Oh my god that is so meta town cake".

It is absurd.

Fucking judge of this thread, not others.


all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps



You weren't my top mafia read but now you are for lying.

I said Damred was the mafia more likely.


On August 15 2017 02:45 CopCake wrote:
If I have to lynch someone I think I would lynch Ritoki

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On August 15 2017 05:29 ritoky wrote:
i mean either:

a) damdred is your top mafia read and you want to lynch someone who isn't your top mafia read which is ????????????????????????????

or

b) i am your top mafia read who you want to lynch and you're lying.

so which?

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i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

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copcake - scum lean for inconsistency, her tw read (if i even understand it right) being sheeped from hf who partially sheeped it from me but i am scum, and her obsession with the clock aka omgus

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On August 16 2017 04:01 ritoky wrote:
am i really going to have to vote for copcake in this top shit? really....is that what is about to happen....

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On August 16 2017 04:41 ritoky wrote:
copcake are you town? can you tell me who else is town?


can you explain this progression?

I don't think you've said anything or much negative about jealous at all, even town read him for his pictures and hilarity and fuck you ness but you've somehow turned around on copcake when she's been more inconsistent and said more nothingness?


On August 15 2017 11:07 ritoky wrote:
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On August 15 2017 10:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.

If you had to rank them

1 - Most town
2 - Kinda town
3 - Not really town

What's your call?


copcake - scum lean for inconsistency, her tw read (if i even understand it right) being sheeped from hf who partially sheeped it from me but i am scum, and her obsession with the clock aka omgus

hf - nothing yet. town hf lynches mafia and dies/eats shots, town mafia pushes forward his agenda consistently, town hf doesn't give much shits about outside opinions so long as things head his direction. mafia hf aggressively pockets players, lynches townies and stays alive, and has sudden shifts in his agenda post-nks to suit his new agenda (or sometimes he does this super cool slight pivot thing that i wish i was capable of). he hasn't had the opportunity to blossom yet.

jealous - ???? he's funny, but proclaims self dunce which makes it feel like an act and since his geript boner died he has felt pretty preipheral, pretty hard meh.

so basically i reject your categories.


On August 16 2017 04:06 ritoky wrote:
rayn seems kinda town to me. i don't know why people are defending jealous' "reads posts". the last picture one was kinda something but the other 2 are just thread/post summary pure and simple. they don't actually have any original thought. still no clue what that makes him, but defending him like he is town jesus over that is lul.


i never planned on voting for you regardless of my opinion on your case on rayn and i don't think you should have ever been nominated into the top in the first place.

i have thought that jealous' schtick since pretty much immediately was an act and a gimmick to hide behind and i naturally didn't trust it. he became peripheral until called out and then his response of seriousness was just giant mspaint summary posts that contributed 0 original thought imo. so i don't trust him with power.

i have tons of issues with copcake, but at the end of the day she has a terrible read on me that is absolutely trash imo. but she convinced me over the course of the day that she thoroughly believes her trash read. which makes her more worthy of the power than either of you two.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 20:56 GMT
#1112
On August 16 2017 05:53 Holyflare wrote:
She convinced you?

Your whole point was that you hated she forgot her read and it's crap.

That didn't change??? What made her convince you?


insistence, always referencing back to it, making it the cornerstone of her scum reads and view of the game. literally half her read on the game is predicated on me bitching @ her for making me a clock. to me that is just too deep for a scum, especially with the basis of the read gaining absolutely 0 traction in the thread.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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August 17 2017 18:34 GMT
#1840
first time i have ever missed a vote. sorry mods, but i did warn you so a little less sorry.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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August 17 2017 18:37 GMT
#1844
On August 18 2017 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 18 2017 03:34 ritoky wrote:
first time i have ever missed a vote. sorry mods, but i did warn you so a little less sorry.

Why didn't you push your Cake case?


honestly couldn't tell you, don't remember hardly anything about this game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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August 17 2017 18:40 GMT
#1849
On August 18 2017 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
I actually am pretty sure I posted it in the last 10 hours. Why you ignore it?


haven't been on in 2 days, all i have done is work and sleep. don't take it personally; i ignored everything.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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August 17 2017 18:43 GMT
#1855
On August 18 2017 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 03:40 ritoky wrote:
On August 18 2017 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
I actually am pretty sure I posted it in the last 10 hours. Why you ignore it?


haven't been on in 2 days, all i have done is work and sleep. don't take it personally; i ignored everything.

Well do you have time now? I've had the same so i don't blame you.


honestly i would prefer to just town read 1 or 2 people and sheep them as an extra vote the rest of the time i am alive rather than catch up on like 40 pages and be continuously present cuz i can't really guarantee that.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 17 2017 18:46 GMT
#1860
On August 18 2017 03:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 05:06 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Btw "breaking" "bending" rules is not town aligment tell, like honestlt I can perfectly mimic myself having a badass plan and shit and people would be like "Oh my god that is so meta town cake".

It is absurd.

Fucking judge of this thread, not others.


all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...

Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 05:17 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 05:15 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 05:06 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Btw "breaking" "bending" rules is not town aligment tell, like honestlt I can perfectly mimic myself having a badass plan and shit and people would be like "Oh my god that is so meta town cake".

It is absurd.

Fucking judge of this thread, not others.


all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps



You weren't my top mafia read but now you are for lying.

I said Damred was the mafia more likely.


On August 15 2017 02:45 CopCake wrote:
If I have to lynch someone I think I would lynch Ritoki

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On August 15 2017 05:29 ritoky wrote:
i mean either:

a) damdred is your top mafia read and you want to lynch someone who isn't your top mafia read which is ????????????????????????????

or

b) i am your top mafia read who you want to lynch and you're lying.

so which?

Show nested quote +
i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

Show nested quote +
copcake - scum lean for inconsistency, her tw read (if i even understand it right) being sheeped from hf who partially sheeped it from me but i am scum, and her obsession with the clock aka omgus

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On August 16 2017 04:01 ritoky wrote:
am i really going to have to vote for copcake in this top shit? really....is that what is about to happen....

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 04:41 ritoky wrote:
copcake are you town? can you tell me who else is town?


can you explain this progression?

I don't think you've said anything or much negative about jealous at all, even town read him for his pictures and hilarity and fuck you ness but you've somehow turned around on copcake when she's been more inconsistent and said more nothingness?


didn't you already ask me this and i answered it and then you said nothing in response and then called me mafia still? or something?

jealous feels fake as fuck, i am never handing you superpowers day 1 cuz i am not arrogant enough to believe i am right on you. copcake began to read like a donkey. PoE donkey > fake
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ritoky
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August 17 2017 19:05 GMT
#1868
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ritoky
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August 17 2017 19:10 GMT
#1871
yeah! fuck you tumblewood! dunno what we're on about, but every1 is doing it!
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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August 17 2017 19:15 GMT
#1873
i have clicked a filter! is any1 proud of my effort?
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ritoky
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August 17 2017 19:24 GMT
#1881
i'd lynch damdred.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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United States6851 Posts
August 17 2017 19:41 GMT
#1893
On August 18 2017 04:36 geript wrote:
Like seriously if TW is town and hasn't caught back up to the thread, why is he making this post?

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On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels




Since when does town think it is important to give an updated list of reads when he's 20+ pages behind on the thread? Since when does a townie find it more important to post about where he stands 20+ pages ago, than to actually read the fucking thread to figure out what if anything has changed in his read?



/end of thread


this is some thin shit.
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ritoky
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August 17 2017 20:00 GMT
#1904
On August 18 2017 04:49 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 04:41 ritoky wrote:
On August 18 2017 04:36 geript wrote:
Like seriously if TW is town and hasn't caught back up to the thread, why is he making this post?

On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list

town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv

don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf

the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels




Since when does town think it is important to give an updated list of reads when he's 20+ pages behind on the thread? Since when does a townie find it more important to post about where he stands 20+ pages ago, than to actually read the fucking thread to figure out what if anything has changed in his read?



/end of thread


this is some thin shit.

So when you're town, you try and post reads that are 14+ pages old? What point does that ever serve as town? At what point have you ever seen that happen and not also be qualified with "Haven't caught up yet but here's where I was at as of last night" (or similar)? You don't try to sell them as I'm rip, rearing and ready to go and it's totally good.


i am a firm believer that players can do things that make them irrevocably town or mafia and reading 40 or 50 pages of content will never change that. it is 1 of the reasons why i used to be so much better at reading new players than most people.

i don't think the points on tw are awful, just this one in particular. he posted updated reads while behind in the thread = mafia does not compute for me. i don't see it as an exclusively mafia thing i see it as you trying to bury a guy who is in a hole with a stupid thing he did that isn't alignment indicative.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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August 17 2017 20:01 GMT
#1905
naw rayn, damdred is mafia so your list is wrong.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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United States6851 Posts
August 17 2017 20:10 GMT
#1912
On August 18 2017 05:06 geript wrote:
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On August 18 2017 05:00 ritoky wrote: i don't see it as an exclusively mafia thing i see it as you trying to bury a guy who is in a hole with a stupid thing he did that isn't alignment indicative.

Yes I'm trying to bury TW. I strongly disagree that it's not alignment indicative. Maybe it's just is just my view on how the game should be played from town. But I don't think it's hard to say that giving updated reads when you are up to day isn't helpful at all.


i mean i haven't really read 30+ pages of thread, so i am in a similar boat. but i guess i am not peddling my wares like they are legitimate.
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ritoky
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August 17 2017 20:15 GMT
#1914
i lied this game?
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ritoky
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United States6851 Posts
August 17 2017 20:55 GMT
#1949
yup i am in the business of making myself look like an idiot as mafia and calling the person i am about to nk mafia as my only read in 3 days. thumbs up!
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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August 17 2017 20:58 GMT
#1951
do my posts sound ragey? serious question, a great deal of my posts are sarcasm or tongue in cheek or intentionally hyperbolic for humor. maybe i am an ineffective communicator
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ritoky
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August 17 2017 22:36 GMT
#2002
On August 18 2017 06:43 CopCake wrote:
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On August 18 2017 05:58 ritoky wrote:
do my posts sound ragey? serious question, a great deal of my posts are sarcasm or tongue in cheek or intentionally hyperbolic for humor. maybe i am an ineffective communicator


You have multiple personalities.


not really, i am just open with my emotional state; it's part of what makes me easy to read as town. as mafia i only have calm and angry as emotional possibilities.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 17 2017 22:42 GMT
#2006
On August 18 2017 07:39 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 07:36 ritoky wrote:
On August 18 2017 06:43 CopCake wrote:
On August 18 2017 05:58 ritoky wrote:
do my posts sound ragey? serious question, a great deal of my posts are sarcasm or tongue in cheek or intentionally hyperbolic for humor. maybe i am an ineffective communicator


You have multiple personalities.


not really, i am just open with my emotional state; it's part of what makes me easy to read as town. as mafia i only have calm and angry as emotional possibilities.


Those are the ones you have been.


naw you forgot disheveled, bored, funny, ironic, and a couple others.

but continue your hate boner for me over a clock, it makes me laugh.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 17 2017 22:48 GMT
#2008
jealous is never mafia with conversion btw.

big contributions by me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 17 2017 22:58 GMT
#2014
i don't think that the way i normally read hf works in this game because of the restrictive lynch mechanics....that sucks for me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
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August 18 2017 17:22 GMT
#2131
On August 19 2017 01:06 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 04:24 ritoky wrote:
i'd lynch damdred.


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On August 18 2017 05:01 ritoky wrote:
naw rayn, damdred is mafia so your list is wrong.


any thoughts on the flip?

if you're even around


i was wrong. but i don't think his filter was typical town damdred filter i remember, so i feel justified in my read.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
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August 18 2017 17:29 GMT
#2134
On August 19 2017 01:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 01:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 19 2017 01:44 Holyflare wrote:
I will quit this game if rels is not in the lynch list.

what about TW?


It's not satisfying to lynch him. Shot will do.


quoted for posterity in my filter. this is a moment i need to remember.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 18 2017 17:31 GMT
#2135
voted for geript
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 18 2017 21:09 GMT
#2190
i am town, vote for someone else.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:16 GMT
#2243
on lunch @ work for 30 mins, still town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:20 GMT
#2244
@rayn i don't understand your post. you're asking me a question to which the answer to it is one of the posts quoted in your post.....so????

she exceeded the threshold in my mind of person manufacturing crap to push an agenda to donkey who believes in an inane read. that's generally how i read people who post things that make no sense to me, kinda like koshi, based on their conviction and sincerity in the thing that i cannot comprehend why they think it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:22 GMT
#2246
and better than hf and jealous isn't exactly a glowing review.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:23 GMT
#2247
idk i find false conviction obvious from most people. they're way worse at it than they think they are usually.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:23 GMT
#2248
i go back to work in ~22 minutes.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:25 GMT
#2250
idk i think hf has some of his mafia signs going on, but the game is being handed to him by every1 so i am kinda just in cross my fingers and let jesus take the wheel mode.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:26 GMT
#2251
On August 19 2017 16:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 16:20 ritoky wrote:
she exceeded the threshold in my mind of person manufacturing crap to push an agenda to donkey who believes in an inane read. that's generally how i read people who post things that make no sense to me, kinda like koshi, based on their conviction and sincerity in the thing that i cannot comprehend why they think it.

Koshi is completely different in terms of his town/mafia play than Cake is. First of all not many people can figure out Cake's logic even she is town so i don't really know what makes you think you should give her a free pass only because "too stupid to be scum", since that is definitely not true.


okay, you may know that from experience, but i don't know who copcake is, so i am applying my basic bitch metrics to her w/ the little time i have to devote to this game. in general my basic bitch metrics work for more people than they don't.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:28 GMT
#2254
On August 19 2017 16:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 16:26 ritoky wrote:
On August 19 2017 16:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2017 16:20 ritoky wrote:
she exceeded the threshold in my mind of person manufacturing crap to push an agenda to donkey who believes in an inane read. that's generally how i read people who post things that make no sense to me, kinda like koshi, based on their conviction and sincerity in the thing that i cannot comprehend why they think it.

Koshi is completely different in terms of his town/mafia play than Cake is. First of all not many people can figure out Cake's logic even she is town so i don't really know what makes you think you should give her a free pass only because "too stupid to be scum", since that is definitely not true.


okay, you may know that from experience, but i don't know who copcake is, so i am applying my basic bitch metrics to her w/ the little time i have to devote to this game. in general my basic bitch metrics work for more people than they don't.

Then why didn't you ask?


because 1) if someone links me a filter i am not overflowing with time to go read it; 2) i don't know if the source of info is trustworthy; and 3) i read players differently than most on this site so what is beneficial to others often is different than what is for me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:35 GMT
#2256
idk about the whole not lynch you thing. it was very strange. i still don't exactly get how you became "mod conf town" and then every1 basically just accepted it as gospel and repeated it like earily quick and without tons of question....so....that shit was just odd. i think hf flipping red would move you down from town to at least null/reconsider because of it, and i would heavily look into the people who bought into the "mod confirmed" stuff super quick too.

the only thing i really like about hf is his frustration with the limitations of the setup because i feel them too even though i am not fully engaged.

but then he is doing the thing where he starts setting up the next lynch before he is through with the current one whereas when he is town he usually pushes through until the lynch then begins evaluating/pushing post lynch based on the info. i could also see him being a partner w/ TW...i think it was TW i quoted it before, ppl will prob say "RABBLE RABBLE" to that, but the whole "don't lynch him shoot him" and a couple other things are flags for me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:38 GMT
#2258
On August 19 2017 16:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 16:28 ritoky wrote:
On August 19 2017 16:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2017 16:26 ritoky wrote:
On August 19 2017 16:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2017 16:20 ritoky wrote:
she exceeded the threshold in my mind of person manufacturing crap to push an agenda to donkey who believes in an inane read. that's generally how i read people who post things that make no sense to me, kinda like koshi, based on their conviction and sincerity in the thing that i cannot comprehend why they think it.

Koshi is completely different in terms of his town/mafia play than Cake is. First of all not many people can figure out Cake's logic even she is town so i don't really know what makes you think you should give her a free pass only because "too stupid to be scum", since that is definitely not true.


okay, you may know that from experience, but i don't know who copcake is, so i am applying my basic bitch metrics to her w/ the little time i have to devote to this game. in general my basic bitch metrics work for more people than they don't.

Then why didn't you ask?


because 1) if someone links me a filter i am not overflowing with time to go read it; 2) i don't know if the source of info is trustworthy; and 3) i read players differently than most on this site so what is beneficial to others often is different than what is for me.

Okay so, i find this to be the problem here:
Me and Cake have played numerous games with each other. I think it should be very apparent if you have read the posts between us, especially early on in the game (idk why wouldn't you since you thought she is mafia). You already had a town read on me back then, why do you trust me now if you didn't think it was worth to trust my opinion back then?


idk, cuz i didn't? i wanted to make my own read cuz that's mafia
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:42 GMT
#2260
On August 19 2017 16:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 16:35 ritoky wrote:
i think hf flipping red would move you down from town to at least null/reconsider because of it, and i would heavily look into the people who bought into the "mod confirmed" stuff super quick too.

Wait you think if Holyflare is mafia i can be mafia with him? Why?


i think it is possible. for the exact reason you asked "why didn't hf lynch me day 1?"
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:51 GMT
#2264
anyways i gotta go back to work. i will probably be back an hour or 2 before deadline at best.

when you're evaluating me please keep in context that you all signed up for this game. i didn't. i am town, but if you feel otherwise and end up lynching me i get it, i haven't been that helpful and i have been inactive so meh sorry for those out there working for it, i just don't have it in me atm.

out of rels and jealous i would lynch jealous. he has actually done stuff that i remember and have an opinion on, which is that his act was contrived and his "contributions" early were just summaries being peddled as reads. i think him dropping from top 3 to bottom 3 is indicative of the judge's opinion, and his alignment would show if they need to reevaluate what they're doing with their lives moreso than 2 afks. rels is a coin flip for me outside of my OMGUS feelings toward him for immediately attempting to pin damdred's death on me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 07:54 GMT
#2265
yes the "fake bus" into "fake rage" into "reconciliation" play is possible. i have organized it before in a qt, if that is what you're asking.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:00 GMT
#2577
oh cool i got green checked.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:01 GMT
#2579
On August 20 2017 05:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
If ritoky doesnt show I'm leaving my vote on rels.


and if i do show?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:03 GMT
#2581
On August 20 2017 05:02 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2017 05:01 ritoky wrote:
On August 20 2017 05:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
If ritoky doesnt show I'm leaving my vote on rels.


and if i do show?


Now that you are here... Read on Geript?

That is the only thing you need to do for me.


no that is not a thing i will be doing in the next half. i have 20 minutes to pick a person to vote on, so i will be doing that.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:05 GMT
#2583
On August 19 2017 19:00 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 18:58 CopCake wrote:
Like after reading Ritoki's whole filter and noticed he is a doctor I understood his mood, lack of participation, ec, he is also constant with his reads.

Pretty sure he's a nurse like me. Not 100% though.


yes i am a nurse
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:08 GMT
#2588
oh fuck off with the "he got green checked and fucked off" stuff rayn. i fucked off before i got green checked, and already said i had to finish work then sleep. plus i was fucking off before that, you act like it was a change in behavior.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:10 GMT
#2591
why is rayn so adamant rels is town?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:18 GMT
#2599
the only thing i like in rels' filter is his geript read where he says "geript thought this of me last game where i did a lot of the same shit, but this game he thinks the opposite and that is sketch."

the only thing i dislike in rels' filter is his immediate inclination to pin a damdred death on me esp w/ him not reading the game closely.

so idk how rayn got to feel so strongly.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:22 GMT
#2607
voted on jealous, not married to it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:24 GMT
#2613
i might switch to rels dunno. i really don't particularly like the people voting on jealous, but i think he is more mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:44 GMT
#2653
yo my bad for not voting on the coinflip who ended up town. feeling really burnt up inside. /s
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:46 GMT
#2656
also after careful consideration, i have determined that geript and hf cannot be together, they are added to jealous and conversion of people i cannot see together in this game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:47 GMT
#2657
cannot see as mafia together*
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:54 GMT
#2668
hmmmm....considering the world where both were town and rayn fights for the opposite lynch knowing it ain't happening
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 20:59 GMT
#2672
jealous consolidated onto hf for the positive power day 1 right?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:00 GMT
#2676
so they are always the same alignment right? i guess there's a case for a town jealous and a mafia hf, but more often then not they're the same alignment.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:02 GMT
#2679
cuz a mafia jealous would prefer the power go to himself or the "lesser player" in copcake not to hf if it was a mafia jealous and a town hf
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:06 GMT
#2686
so is it as simple as jealous flips red -> hf mafia, jealous flips green -> rayn mafia?

i might be simplifying too much.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:07 GMT
#2689
On August 20 2017 06:05 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky please save my sanity.


i am trying to piece this shit together a bit for the first legitimate time all game; let me work through it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:15 GMT
#2699
i think the only real holyflare is mafia worlds that make any sense to me is something like hf/jealous/hopeless or hf/jealous/eversince. the 2nd 1 probably more so than the first.

geript can't be mafia with hf cuz of the mod confirmed parroting and cuz geript wouldn't start to flip his read on me knowing in the qt that hf is going to fake a green on me.

copcake can't be with hf, cuz shitfighting.

tumble can in a crazy ass universe that i choose not to believe atm, so like 1% or lower.

rayn is possible, but rayn talked me out of believing they could be together.

conv can't be with jealous because of dunce picture and him not doing that to partner.

so yeah those are the only 2 teams where hf is mafia
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:17 GMT
#2703
On August 20 2017 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2017 06:06 ritoky wrote:
so is it as simple as jealous flips red -> hf mafia, jealous flips green -> rayn mafia?

i might be simplifying too much.


No because I'm always town. In every scenario. I don't just randomly green check you in a lynch pool for shits and giggles to narrow it down to my partner and a random.


yeah....narrowing down the lynch pool to 2 randomly when your partner is in the lynch pool....when you could just fake green your partner out of the pool.....that is such a next level play that it probably didn't happen.

okay hf is probably town.....which means jealous is probably town for his day 1 power vote.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:19 GMT
#2705
copcake, you think i am town right?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:25 GMT
#2708
Let's imagine that HF is mafia for this post.

HF fake claims a green check on me, who you think is town. This renders the lynch pool down to 2 as no one is lynching the green check.

In the event that Jealous is mafia and I am town in this scenario, why would a mafia HF drop the lynch pool down to 2 people when 1 of them is his partner? Why wouldn't he claim the check to clear his partner from the lynch pool and render the vote to 2 townies instead?

In that sense you have to believe that either a) HF is mafia with me and clearing me from the lynch pool via fake check or b) all 3 of us (Jealous included) were town and HF checked the 1 that was most convenient for him.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:35 GMT
#2714
I got the opposite impression HF. I got the impression that he was scum who was too tentative to say shit because he felt like the slightest nudge may topple the house of cards over onto him.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:40 GMT
#2717
Right but what I am saying copcake, is that HF (in the 1 game ever we have been mafia together) was very risk averse unless he was forced to take risks or in a losing position. HF is in a position where he has free license to fake a green check on any player in the lynch pool. You're saying in that case he risks his partner (Jealous) leaving him in the lynch pool rather than fake a green on Jealous and ensure 100% another town death because rels or I would have died.

I don't see that as a play HF makes, that is an unnecessary risk when the alternative is literally a guaranteed townie being lynched.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:47 GMT
#2723
half of Eversince's filter before damdred dies is talking directly to damdred.....dunno what to make of that.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:51 GMT
#2727
On August 20 2017 06:44 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2017 06:40 ritoky wrote:
Right but what I am saying copcake, is that HF (in the 1 game ever we have been mafia together) was very risk averse unless he was forced to take risks or in a losing position. HF is in a position where he has free license to fake a green check on any player in the lynch pool. You're saying in that case he risks his partner (Jealous) leaving him in the lynch pool rather than fake a green on Jealous and ensure 100% another town death because rels or I would have died.

I don't see that as a play HF makes, that is an unnecessary risk when the alternative is literally a guaranteed townie being lynched.


Not really, not when RELS is one of the last few persons who can call out his bullshit. Notice how he immediately called scum whoever voted Jealous over rels. There is no way Jealous would have gotten lynched when TW (Considered mafia by majority) , Rels (Considered mega mafia) and Cake (Considered mafia/null/stupid living in another reality) are voting for Jealous.

Pretty much the people who voted for Jealous are the "worst" players.


I just disagree with you, I don't think HF risks a teammate and thus I don't think they can be together. I also don't think a mafia Jealous gives a power on day 1 to HF when he can work more to get it himself or send it to you. Which means to me, Jealous is now basically green almost always......

which means that was 3 town up for lynch.....huh....yeah cuz the only world where Jealous is mafia for me is with HF but that vote makes it not possible, so Jealous is town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:52 GMT
#2729
mafia Jealous gives a power on day 1 to a town HF*
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:53 GMT
#2730
that being 3 town up for lynch don't look good for rayn or geript.....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 21:54 GMT
#2731
was i a complete donkey on day 1?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 22:10 GMT
#2750
ok i have to go to the store and then wrangle children. i will try to do more solving tonight.

basically i am at

town:
ritoky
jealous

mostly town:
copcake
hf

everyone else.

i think i made a solid case for why jealous is basically always town now if any1 wants to rebutt it (yes i know i just voted on him, but fuck off). i think it being 3 town up for lynch, doesn't look good for people who didn't care about the lynch very strongly or were content...
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 22:13 GMT
#2752
i am kinda married to my geript angle shooting read cuz it has never been wrong, but skimming his filter and his attitude around the lynch is kinda....it's not good jim....not good....makes me doubt....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 19 2017 22:16 GMT
#2758
scenario 1) jealous gives the PR to you because handing it to HF is worst case scenario.

scenario 2) they can't be mafia together because HF fake greens jealous to exempt him from the pool instead of me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:10 GMT
#2895
i am mildly alive. i got diarrhea from seomething
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:11 GMT
#2897
so basically me, jealous, and hf are all conf town right?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:14 GMT
#2902
On August 21 2017 06:11 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 06:10 ritoky wrote:
i am mildly alive. i got diarrhea from seomething

Cdiff?


i ate meat last night at someone's house to be polite, and i am vegetarian. probably that.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:16 GMT
#2907
i mean i knew 100% hf took the vest when he said he was gonna medic save me. who believes that?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:21 GMT
#2912
what boat are you on? that HF is mafia and held his shot?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:26 GMT
#2920
i mean you either have to believe the mafia is me + hf + 1 and we are making some bizarro sick -EV big plays for the sake of plays....which isn't really either of our style.....or basically me, jealous, and hf are all conf town
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:33 GMT
#2928
I mean, I think we are so far apart in terms of headspace I don't know what to say.

Sure HF is a sicko, but your world is that he fakes a green check on an afk then holds a shot.....to what end?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:36 GMT
#2932
i mean i guess there's a super crazy scenario where he has the vigi shot and it goes ML -> vigi shot + mafia shot -> win?

are my numbers right there?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:38 GMT
#2935
10->9? 9->7 LYLO?

so that would only yield lylo not a win (assuming 3 mafia)...so even that doesn't make sense. because you just shoot tonight and make the same play tomorrow for the win.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:40 GMT
#2938
but you don't believe that he took the vest and got shot, why would you believe he is telling the truth about having a gun...
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:41 GMT
#2940
yeah it is 10, not 9 so it goes LYLO assuming 3, not win
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:42 GMT
#2941
this shit doesn't matter though cuz hf is town LOL
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 21:45 GMT
#2946
no the judges got paranoid cuz HF was wrong in his case and probably got viewed as pocketing me; and decided to put none of the confirmed town in the top for ???? reason. like regardless of hf's alignment i am either green checked or spewed so i should be in top and i went through the reasons why jealous can't be with hf so if they are worried about that he should be in top.....

dunno, they haven't made tons of sense to me w/ their decisions all game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 22:03 GMT
#2953
On August 21 2017 06:51 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 06:45 ritoky wrote:
no the judges got paranoid cuz HF was wrong in his case and probably got viewed as pocketing me; and decided to put none of the confirmed town in the top for ???? reason. like regardless of hf's alignment i am either green checked or spewed so i should be in top and i went through the reasons why jealous can't be with hf so if they are worried about that he should be in top.....

dunno, they haven't made tons of sense to me w/ their decisions all game.


Ritoki I am going to put you a scenario.

1.- One player afk, you know him for years and you haven't seen him that much. You lynch your ask friend.

Is that town or mafia.


that's NAI, he's afk so it's not a bad lynch regardless of the flip
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 22:13 GMT
#2956
jealous is town, cuz hf is town, and jealous gave up the chance at himself getting a PR day 1 to ensure that HF and not cop got it. mafia doesn't do this. the rest of his filter pretty irrelevant now that hf is 98% town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 22:17 GMT
#2958
the vote was 4-4-4 jealous, hf, cop; with only an afk 1gu not voting. jealous unvoted himself and voted hf to ensure hf got the power.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 22:23 GMT
#2961
the vote is 4-4-4 tied, and with 2 minutes left before it is decided he unvotes himself and votes hf (who is now presumably town because mafia holding their shot doesn't make tons of sense) to prevent shenanigans from giving the power to any1 else.

a mafia jealous has the option to make the exact same play but give the PR to copcake instead of HF or try and push a little harder to get it himself. instead he gives it to HF which makes no sense for him as mafia imo unless he is with HF. HF green checking me in the pool yesterday instead of Jealous means they can't be partners, plus HF is basically town now....add it all together and you get jealous is pretty much town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 22:33 GMT
#2965
On August 21 2017 07:27 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 06:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 06:43 Conversion wrote:
I don't wanna vote geript or cop

also why is Jealous just dropping votes without even a one liner


Explain


I don't like you because you make cases without thinking about the bigger picture (Like you call me and Jealous mafia, but in what world am I ever going to be mafia with him. seriously)

I don't like geript. I don't like his recent posts

I'm not actually reading too much into anything though, and I don't think I should win today. I just don't like either of you


so who would be your lynch pool today, and maybe 1 sentence (or more if you want) on why for each?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 02:42 GMT
#2987
Copcake, I am just going to try to be honest with you here and I mean 0 offense by this. It is simply my impression of you this game.

I think people react negatively towards you because you are disproportionately hostile toward any1 who comes remotely close to insulting you or disagreeing with you. Many players are also having trouble following your train of thought, which happens some people's rationale is more difficult to understand than others, but when they ask for clarity or further questions they are often met with yelling or a repetition of the same answer. This can result in people arriving at the point of "well I don't want to interact with that because getting yelled at for asking a question is not the kind of thing I play mafia for and want in my life."

I know I am a little shit at times too, as are most here, who call others dumb when we are frustrated or insult people cuz we are having a shitty day; so sometimes you just have to take on people's anger and try and convert it in some way into constructive discourse. But this has turned out way too white knighty and I am disgusted with myself.

An example of what I am talking about is you discussing HF with me:

I say HF is like 98% cleared as town, because he is the only player who was capable of being a medic or vest and there was no NK along with some other stuff.

You respond with "no HF is not clear he could very well be mafia, last game he made #huge_plays so he can be mafia."

I respond with, okay I can understand the paranoia but if HF is mafia what reason would he have to not submit KP? Even the math on him vigi shooting + kp tonight doesn't immediately result in a win for mafia, so why?

To which you say "because HF is capable of making #huge_plays".

And as you see we have reached an impasse. Because I am going to keep asking how and why a competent mafia player would elect to forego KP when it nets no tangible positive that I can see, and you're going to keep responding with "last game #huge_plays" and baseline paranoia. And so now I can't really discuss HF with you anymore because in my mind it will not go anywhere productive.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 02:47 GMT
#2988
Conv, I never got that lynch pool list from you.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 02:48 GMT
#2989
On August 21 2017 09:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i am fine with either choice besides geript. conv and copcake are both highly town.
the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia.


What makes conv highly likely town? Copcake too if you're feeling generous.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 17:26 GMT
#3086
hm i was looking at the wrong vote....my jealous read is a lot weaker now. sad days.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 17:36 GMT
#3087
oh god i still have to vote for this reward....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 17:36 GMT
#3088
hf why you voting conv? to protest?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 17:57 GMT
#3101
pretty cool eclipse. we had about 90-92% visibility here in seattle.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 18:06 GMT
#3105
On August 21 2017 12:09 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 11:47 ritoky wrote:
Conv, I never got that lynch pool list from you.


oh right

probably hopeless/tw and one of rayn vs geript

hopeless has like deteriorated in his play. I'm about to sleep so I'm not filter diving, but I can't really remember anything good from him aside from exclaiming that TW needs to die for like 2 days now and giving lists and fading into obscurity

TW because he does these like weak question pushes and doesn't really get anywhere. he's really into giving lists (I don't like lists maybe? who knows). also whenever I thought he was mafia he ended up being town, and now he's like trying extra hard so that's giving me bad feelz (probably not a v. good read)

I feel like I'm missing something between rayn or geript, so this is all feels between them as my last lynch candidate

I don't like Jealous, but I'm leaving him out of my lynch pool b/c of what you or geript stated (voting for HF doesn't make sense if he is scum)


what makes you think the 1gu/ever/disf slot is town?

also can i just note how annoying it is to have to click 3 filter (1 of them is basically empty i know) to try and get a read on 1 slot.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 18:34 GMT
#3112
you're in the mafia pool because of a lot of PoE and 1 real reason for me.

PoE is that HF is town, I think the NKs highly suggest that rayn and geript are unlikely mafia because they just don't suit them. The judges seem to be married to their copcake is town read and I have inclinations that she is town so she is out. My jealous read is kinda shittier now that I realize I was looking at the wrong vote in terms of #s.....so he has fallen considering he has gone peripheral again just like he did when every1 TR him before, but idk if I am ready to lynch him quite yet.

So we're already down to you/hopeless/tw/disf by PoE...

the legitimate thing that has made me wary of you from your filter was your d1 and a little beyond interactions with jealous and the way you embraced the dunce thing felt like buddying/pocketing in a not "hey we're both town" kinda way. that's why i said earlier you guys can't be together.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 18:52 GMT
#3134
what exactly does hf dying accomplish? i go from confirmed to confirmed, hf flips town which is already basically true, we lose massive activity, and we gain??????????? peace of mind?????????
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:12 GMT
#3162
it is really simple. either you think hf is town and got shot since he is the only eligible player to not die from a shot or you think mafia held their shot. the onus is on you to explain to me why the hell mafia holds a shot.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:13 GMT
#3164
On August 22 2017 04:10 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:08 geript wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:06 CopCake wrote:
@Geript

Who are the three dumb players / bought that HF got cop?m
Who?

Dont avoid this question

Idk, me, ritoky, Rels?


Ritoki bought HF vest thing?

Rels was dead

You considered yourself dumb?

No real answer, I want the truth now.


you said cop in previous post, not vest.

the question you're wanting to ask is "who do you think is gullible enough to fall for hf claiming he picked doctor and protected ritoky instead of vesting himself?"
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:23 GMT
#3172
On August 22 2017 04:14 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:13 ritoky wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:10 CopCake wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:08 geript wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:06 CopCake wrote:
@Geript

Who are the three dumb players / bought that HF got cop?m
Who?

Dont avoid this question

Idk, me, ritoky, Rels?


Ritoki bought HF vest thing?

Rels was dead

You considered yourself dumb?

No real answer, I want the truth now.


you said cop in previous post, not vest.

the question you're wanting to ask is "who do you think is gullible enough to fall for hf claiming he picked doctor and protected ritoky instead of vesting himself?"


HF claimed that he got cop lol


? Your timeline is mixed up. HF claimed he was going to vest N1 and took cop and green checked me. HF claimed he was going to doc protect me N2 and took vest and didn't die presumably......rels wasn't dead when he claimed the green, and I don't know what your point is really, that we're being bamboozled?

Your world is just too unlikely for me to believe. The judges had to incorrectly TR him, then he had to win PR twice, fake claim a green check, then hold a shot for no reason. To get more TR is not a reason, when a shot on me is freelo; shoot your green check and say "damn I tried to trick them by claiming doc and vesting, my bad ritoky." There's just too many mental hurdles that I can't get there.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:27 GMT
#3173
hf you realize you're voting w/ tumblewood right? lol
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:29 GMT
#3175
am i playing a different game than most people? WHY WOULD MAFIA NOT SHOOT GHDFJGBJDGNDSJKFON
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:33 GMT
#3183
the other case i know of is the secret double shot for the win, but math shows that only leads to LYLO
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:33 GMT
#3185
On August 22 2017 04:31 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:29 ritoky wrote:
am i playing a different game than most people? WHY WOULD MAFIA NOT SHOOT GHDFJGBJDGNDSJKFON

i dunno. i don't know why mafia shot an hf claiming vest either.


he was claiming a doc save on me holy jesus....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:38 GMT
#3191
On August 22 2017 04:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:36 Holyflare wrote:
The only one that took my posts literally was copcake lol. She has to be mafia :D :D

no chance copcake is mafia


0%?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:50 GMT
#3218
is there any possibility that it is team "does not currently care" aka jealous/h1/rayn?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:54 GMT
#3224
idk i have to figure out who to vote, why can't i just have an easy life and be able to vote on myself....i was green checked and still not top 3...must be koshi.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 20:20 GMT
#3258
gonna vote geript and life is gonna keep me away most of the phase.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 22 2017 18:57 GMT
#3632
that feel when you basically nothing to deserve a win, but still feel like the town hero
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 22 2017 19:04 GMT
#3634
On August 23 2017 03:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2017 03:57 ritoky wrote:
that feel when you basically nothing to deserve a win, but still feel like the town hero


I gotcha buddy


I feel like my role this game was to get green checked by you and then spend the remainder of the game talking you down from murdering copcake.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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