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On August 13 2017 06:29 ruXxar wrote: +1 Way above my mspaint skill. Ill probably autolose day 1. Thats howbad I am. its true. i haven't personally seen ruxxar paint but you can just tell he's the kind of guy who's bad at these things | ||
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On August 14 2017 07:07 CopCake wrote: Pretty sure rayn is mafia. why | ||
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On August 14 2017 07:10 CopCake wrote: Didnt like his "I have a plan" and said nothing about it that's pretty weak | ||
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On August 14 2017 07:13 CopCake wrote: Dude wtf, you are trying to make me have a super huge big case when there has been like 3 pages of the game? Mmmmm... no. but you did say you were pretty sure he was scum, so there was a chance you had a decent reason. but what you had was basically nai. | ||
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On August 14 2017 07:20 ritoky wrote: you got an alternative read with some girth? nope. so no one else is allowed to either | ||
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On August 14 2017 07:31 CopCake wrote: No, it seems someone is forcing something. Aka you. please explain what i was forcing. because you may have noticed i'm not attacking you for it. | ||
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On August 14 2017 12:36 CopCake wrote: This is how I felt ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3h58uDq.png) well im sorry i made you feel that way. but i still think your read on rayn is nai, and i think knowing that could make your read on more accurate, if more waffly. it's lame for sure but i think you have to be almost 100% waffle right now or you're just having reads to have reads | ||
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On August 14 2017 13:12 Tumblewood wrote: (the arbiter has spoken)well im sorry i made you feel that way. but i still think your read on rayn is nai, and i think knowing that could make your read on more accurate, if more waffly. it's lame for sure but i think you have to be almost 100% waffle right now or you're just having reads to have reads | ||
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On August 14 2017 19:17 Holyflare wrote: Here's what I posit to you guys: A) Rayn quotes TW's bad post and writes two or three sentences on why it's bad. B) Rayn writes a giant wall of text on TW's bad post. A makes rayn mafia because it takes the same time to quote and write two sentences about a post as writing an afk excuse and no content. B makes rayn mafia because it's a way overblown read on why TW's post is bad. Let's not even get into the fact that rayn hadn't even called tw mafia. Just that his post is bad. What does this actually mean then? Rayn is mafia in every scenario. it sounds like you are working under the assumption that rayn is already scum, so it is logical to posit that he is scum no matter what he does, but it's still stupid logic. | ||
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On August 14 2017 22:43 Conversion wrote: I feel like HF just pressures the people he wants to believe are town the hardest because he probably feels like he has the best shot if he can townread 1-2 strong players and go from there this is not logic i have seen before, and i do not think it is something scum would or could make up if they are trying to blend in / look productive. town | ||
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On August 15 2017 00:01 Holyflare wrote: Tumblewood what is the town rayn motivation to say you have a bad post and then have no elaboration but just afk? TW drops to scummy for missing obvious point of post. maybe you don't want or aren't able to post the analysis? dunno bout you but in my experience town have enough motivation to do it plenty of the time. and then what would be the motivation for scum trying to look like town? | ||
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On August 15 2017 00:09 geript wrote: TW is approaching the game super differently from last game. Literally not a single read but spends his time poopooing reads. i have "poopoo'd" 1 read. literally i have less than 10 posts in a ridiculously inactive d1. and you may have noticed that all the ones today have not been as you described. so um stop looking for excuses to attack me? | ||
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On August 15 2017 00:14 Holyflare wrote: I mean you write it yourself. I even quote in this game a post of Rayn's 3 games ago WHERE HE MAKES THE SAME EXACT POST AND WAS MAFIA. Loooooool. If you can find where he does this as town instead of just instantly posting his reads go ahead and prove me wrong. yo this reminds me that in rayn's last scum game he also typed /in, juat like he did this game. crazy coincidence | ||
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town conv jealous weak town ff cake null far too many people weak scum damdred geript hf scum if asked i will explain reasons in 45 minutes ish | ||
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On August 15 2017 00:52 Damdred wrote: I guess he could be scum? But I am unsure and don't think scum tw would go so hard after your rayn read. And cupcake rayn read early. Granted it could be a chainsaw defense and the likelihood of him being scum goes up drastically if we assume something odd is there. But I don't think so I think tw just doesn't like the argument and has drawn a lot of attention to himself. right on the money | ||
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On August 15 2017 00:56 Holyflare wrote: This post was directed toward Tumblewood. Now Tumblewood is hard defending rayn effectively because he for some reason magics up that town rayn can be passive if he wants??? i'm not hard defending rayn. rayn is null at best for me. i'm just arguing against an attack on what i don't think is grounds for an attack. ta da | ||
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On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript is actually also prolly mafia ´ and from generic 3 On January 09 2016 13:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol darthfoley goes to the townpile ur move hf | ||
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On August 15 2017 01:54 Holyflare wrote: Lol darthfoley is directly after a darthfoley post in question and was quite obvious why. Also that isn't from his last database town game so link it. I'm almost positive he elaborates on it i think i got those two switched around. the df read is from his database game (unoriginal) and the geript one is from generic 3 | ||
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duh, did u see how much information i have? waay too much information | ||
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On August 15 2017 00:42 Tumblewood wrote: highly town town conv jealous weak town ff cake null far too many people weak scum damdred geript hf scum if asked i will explain reasons in 45 minutes ish u were supposed to ask but whatever. conv is town for reasons already described in my filter. jealous is town because it matches his play in the one newbie game where we got a bunch of new players. (in that one i checked his town and scum meta. as scum he was almost conspiratorial and as town he was highly concerned with being Logical (TM), and he is pretty Logical this game) cake is weak town because i think feeling shut down by someone is a more townie sentiment. for scum being shut down doesn't matter as long as they aren't being lynched. fefe is weak town for requesting not to get a powerup. i just don't think mafia are thinking of that sort of thing half the game is null because half the game is afk and makes me sad damdred is weak scum because his posts are highly noncommittal and far too long for saying next to nothing concretely. hf is weak scum for driving weak reasons into the ground. normally this would be fully scum but driving reasons into the ground is hf's specialty already. geript is weak scum because, before the rest of the thread jumped on my ass, i got the impression he was looking for an excuse to attack me. | ||
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On August 15 2017 02:57 Holyflare wrote: Because tw is defending rayn and even digging to get meta to try and prove me wrong. If tw is mafia then this only comes from the perspective that he knows rayn is town and so theoretically it's simple to find games where he's done this before. Coupled with the fact he's doing all of this but his actual read on rayn is "null" at best it's dodgy as fuck to be doing unless he has the standpoint of him being right and me wrong (yes, tmi). Then you look at the actual quotes he linked me and they're trash and don't align with what he's saying at all but he thinks they do. It's like he briefly skimmed a game for the point to prove himself right (because of the tmi on rayn) and then posted them because it vaguely said what he was getting at. Basically lynch all Tumblewoods. are you fucking kidding me you basically put the onus on me to find meta to disprove yours. so i did. and now you are calling that scummy? | ||
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On August 15 2017 03:14 ritoky wrote: wait a second....there's people in this game that don't have geript as basically confirmed town? are they on crack? why is geript confirmed town | ||
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On August 15 2017 03:23 ritoky wrote: why is angle shooting NAI? every time i have seen people angle shoot really hard (myself included) it has come from town. i guess this is true actually | ||
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On August 15 2017 03:26 Holyflare wrote: absolutely 100% but I'm your mafia so that's my job though innit? this is so confusing it might have to be town. i'm pretty sure something is flying over my head here but ??? | ||
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On August 15 2017 05:50 CopCake wrote: I think is time to stop to play dumb and actually give reads (tho many might consider them dumb) but I wanna be alive because I like to draw. 1.- Tumblewood bothered me a lot. Not just for the whole "your reason for rayn is nai etc etc etc" but because he posted a fucking elaborated pic. Elaborated. Shadows, ears, etc, etc. Everyone else is doing 2D and quick drawings but he took the time to drew that. The first thing that came to my mind is that he wanted to be part of the top 3 to win a power and have their other two scummates help to win that. I mean scum would have that support and they would probably send their best drawer to do that. Ofc this logic applies to HF and Jelaous (and myself but I am town) but take this thing in consideration. Another thing that bothers me is that idr who said that "this game is so pro town) now just imagine this... Mafia has a very very very good drawer and that drawer appeals to emotion. Boom mafia gets all the power roles. More cake reasons to come about ritoki and damdred. you realize the judges' selections have nothing to do with the paintings at all, right? you could not draw anything and still get selected. | ||
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On August 09 2017 02:47 rsoultin wrote: That's correct  They win with town, so they're trying to find the townies to get the goodies, and the scumbags to put up for lynching. | ||
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On August 15 2017 06:03 Holyflare wrote: TW: Super pedant mode engaged. Why did you not call me weak town too for doing the same thing as FF before he did? i didn't even see that post. and it seems to me that post asks to get a vest instead of a shot? ff was declining a powerup because he didn't think he'd be able to use it well, you just seem to be declining a shot because you think mafia are terrified of you | ||
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On August 15 2017 06:18 Holyflare wrote: you're disagreeing that mafia generally NKs me N1 or N2 in almost every game ever? about half the time, according to database. but i'm not disputing that mafia are likely to nk you. | ||
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On August 15 2017 07:35 Hopeless1der wrote: playing the game vs not playing the game is my current metric how does that list at all reflect playing the game vs not playing the game | ||
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On August 15 2017 07:38 Tumblewood wrote: how does that list at all reflect playing the game vs not playing the game and more importantly why would that be your metric | ||
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i read half of them and i think cake is the clearest town. i'm also moving 1der into weak town. i appreciate rayn but i'm waffling on him hard. not necessarily defending himself in a townie or scummy way, just very actively. damdred seems like town, but that said i don't know if i've ever played with scum!damdred. | ||
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On August 16 2017 01:52 Hopeless1der wrote: I realize i'm confimation biased against TW but wtf was that post. an attempt at getting people to talk to me | ||
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On August 16 2017 02:14 Conversion wrote: like what should we do with him, considering his 0 activity if he continues to be totally afk we let the mods handle it. otherwise we make him do stuff and if he doesn't by d2 we lynch him. same goes for onegu, ish. he said he wasn't playing because he didn't get to vote, and then he hasn't come back when he does get to vote. but i fully expect he will come back tomorrow and make like 5 posts and fuck off again, regardless of alignment. | ||
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oh that's strange. i haven't seen that in a game that wasn't resistance | ||
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On August 16 2017 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes, good plan, follow with that. can you tell me where the big list of reads from Jealous is, Holyflare apparently couldnt. I also cant find it in Jealous' filter. hf literally just quoted it. it's a spoiler that says "good morning!" | ||
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On August 16 2017 02:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am quiting this game right now i dont wanna do this any more. okie dokes | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [some examples] + On August 16 2017 04:21 CopCake wrote: Dude wtf, what is your problem? I said several people and said who: ritoki, tumblewood in the begining, you when rayn came back etc Honestly wtf you are putting fucking words on my mouth. this indignation doesn't read as anything but town On August 16 2017 00:03 CopCake wrote: You are putting words in my mouth, I never knew rayn did that (pushing HF and both were mafia together) On August 16 2017 00:07 CopCake wrote: Here He called you mafia and you were mafia together And How am I supposed to know about your games with rayn? I am talking of the times he has been mafia with me on VS. in 2 words: righteous indignation. i think it is one of the towniest responses to have to an accusation / pointed question and cake's filter has it in spades. i think u should vote her because, among lowish-risk votes, cake is the lowest risk. jealous is fakeable because a lot of his interaction is indirect because of the paint thing. i still think he is town but it is harder to be certain with jealous. hf is also tricky to read and could definitely fake this for 1 day. i don't think cake's filter is fakeable. especially look at this: On August 15 2017 22:19 CopCake wrote: Rels was mafia with HF last game. Would be odd if both of them are mafia again this would be the strangest thing to think of and write as scum. just no way sheep or u are mafia trying to destroy town | ||
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On August 16 2017 05:19 Jealous wrote: Hm. I would think that emotional and random would actually be NAI as it's not hard to do nothing but defend yourself from accurate judgments of your subpar posting. it's not hard to use valid logic to support a point you don't believe in. but it can be very difficult to accurately replicate a town mindset when attacked as scum because your motives and perspectives are so different. (because as scum everyone accusing you is doing so justly, because you actually are scum.) | ||
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On August 16 2017 05:22 Holyflare wrote: Tw last minute shenanigans to try and get it off me is duly noted though i have wanted to get people off of you all day. the case is the only new thing, and i thought i was posting it with 45 minutes to deadline. and do you even think cake is scum? i mean look at that case it's pretty good. | ||
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On August 16 2017 05:24 Fecalfeast wrote: Fuck idk. I love shenanigans but haven't had the time to read copcake. But 1derboy is voting hf But I still think hf is town Fuck it I'm parked it's a good thing someone wrote a case with good quotes from cakepie's filter and explained why they make her town, so you don't have to read the whole thing | ||
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On August 16 2017 05:25 Holyflare wrote: yeh but why have you wanted to get people off me all day? I don't think your case is good though ummmm because i am least confident in you being town among the selections? hello? | ||
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On August 16 2017 05:36 Jealous wrote: Pretty much this. More or less a failure to play the game. it seems you two are just scumreading cake (idk if you actually scumread her but you attack her like you do) because you think she is not playing well, and not because she is scummy. which is a pretty backwards way of approaching things imo | ||
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On August 16 2017 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: If a gun has been handed and a person who they choose to shoot on a dayphase is lynched, is the shot refunded? ask via pm. they said they wouldn't answer any more questions in thread | ||
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On August 16 2017 05:51 ritoky wrote: i never planned on voting for you regardless of my opinion on your case on rayn and i don't think you should have ever been nominated into the top in the first place. i have thought that jealous' schtick since pretty much immediately was an act and a gimmick to hide behind and i naturally didn't trust it. he became peripheral until called out and then his response of seriousness was just giant mspaint summary posts that contributed 0 original thought imo. so i don't trust him with power. i have tons of issues with copcake, but at the end of the day she has a terrible read on me that is absolutely trash imo. but she convinced me over the course of the day that she thoroughly believes her trash read. which makes her more worthy of the power than either of you two. this is top town material | ||
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On August 16 2017 06:08 Jealous wrote: But, if there was a (in my opinion quite fair) chance of him being lynched, why would you waste the shot? !!!!! | ||
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On August 17 2017 04:46 Damdred wrote: Hf Geript Jealous Rayn Conversion Copcake Ritoky FF Hopeless (?) Rels Eversince Not sure who I'm forgetting tbh | ||
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i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here | ||
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cake rit ff sorta town rayn conv geript jealous at least 2/3 mafia are in here 1der damdred hf es rels | ||
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this does not answer anything | ||
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and since when are the judges who put you up for lynch going to give you a bullet anyway | ||
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On August 18 2017 01:20 Hopeless1der wrote: That was the point, I think you're scum and I dont think arguing with you is helpful in the slightest. except maybe if you are extremely off track for reasons that could be fixed with a simple explanation, it might help for me to know exactly how you are off track | ||
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On August 18 2017 01:29 Hopeless1der wrote: If you want to prove you are town, dont try to argue with the guy who called you 5000% scum. wtf since when are you supposed to not defend yourself when someone scumreads you | ||
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On August 18 2017 01:36 Damdred wrote: Can you explain how you went from hopeless is maybe town or liking his posts to voting him and being at the bottom of a list post? i voted him because my other options were rayn and ff, who i thought were both highly likely town. he was in the bottom category of the list post, but i didn't have any strong scumreads, so i lowered the bar for my scum pool to include people who i thought could be town but were kinda "ehhhhhh" | ||
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On August 18 2017 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: How is the argument stupid from my point and why is it tvt? by inanity i mean the point you are arguing over is ridiculous (about a facet of the setup that is obviously not true), and by hostility i mean both of you are far more passionate than a point this ridiculous warrants. i've only skimmed your side of the argument so far (still catching up); your side doesn't seem stupid so far, but it is still vehement and over a ridiculous detail, and i think that is more than covered by the fact that you were already likely town. | ||
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On August 18 2017 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Dude you literally said "there is probably not a right answer here". If you actually thought that, why did you put Hopeless on your scumlist in the next post, that doesn't really go along with "there is no right answer here". he was even at the top (townier side) of my scumlist, as a way of saying "i have little reason to believe that he is scum, but someone needs to be mafia, and i guess it's not so implausible that it is him." i still thought the lynch pool overall had a <50% chance of someone being scum. | ||
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town 1der cake rit rayn conv don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure hf the mafia should all be in here jealous geript es damdred rels | ||
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On August 18 2017 02:20 Hopeless1der wrote: Whoo we did it fam, from scum all the way to literal top town. I was never keeping track, but how many times have I asked for a gun to shoot TW with? dont let it go to your head. the reason you are top town is because it's harder to fake being bad town than good town. | ||
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On August 18 2017 02:22 Hopeless1der wrote: If and only if you flip town will I apologize for ignoring you the rest of the game. i just wanna wound some egos | ||
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On August 18 2017 02:24 Conversion wrote: can you explain your cake and geript read? I'm curious. i think i already explained my cake read, but the short version is some of her reads are so illogical and her reactions to attacks are so righteous that i don't think she could fake it as mafia. i previously thought geript was kinda town for the angle shooting thing ritoky pointed out, but i haven't noticed geript at all since, so it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing. i definitely need to read his filter again though, i haven't read it in quite a while. | ||
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On August 18 2017 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so, you listed 5 people as mafia, why can he be the "mafia you are missing"? the idea is the top five (well, six, sorta) people are strongly town and no one else is strongly mafia. so the five people are not mafia exactly, but they're the people who could fill the gaps in the mafia team (the gaps currently being all 3 of them). this is how my last list was formatted too. | ||
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On August 18 2017 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, i am mostly interested in your geript read (after you filter him) and your ES read. Also why do you think ritoky si town? he has made quite a bit of very good analysis. | ||
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i didn't say i had a good read on you. but if you don't establish yourself as very likely town you go to the PoE pool. that's pretty much how it works. | ||
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On August 18 2017 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: He is never ever Conversion. If he is Jealous he is mafia. if you mean conv or jealous are smurfs for sl, that is a definite no because sl is far too lazy for their posting styles (and jealous's account is ancient compared to sl's.) if you mean conv or jealous are using sl's account i think that is extremely unlikely. occam's razor suggests sl was bored and we should move on. | ||
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On August 18 2017 02:58 Hopeless1der wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/txicQY1.png) Give me my gun to shoot TW please case 1: i am mafia, you are mafia that's pretty smart of me to get low-risk town cred like that, but i don't think you are talking about this scenario case 2: i am mafia, you are town i don't have a horse in the race, so it doesn't matter who gets lynched and i don't have a real motivation to wait until after you vote case 3: i am town and don't know your alignment i vote based on my convictions but slightly too late to get the lynch i want really not sure what you're getting at here | ||
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On August 18 2017 03:06 Holyflare wrote: Why was hopeless in your mafia suspect list when you called him definitely town before that list was ever made? i don't remember calling him definitely town before my list post in which he was in the poe pool | ||
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On August 18 2017 03:18 Hopeless1der wrote: OH LOOK RAYN ISNT 100% CONFIRMED SCUM. wow it is almost like you are extremely overconfident and wrong in both of your scumreads | ||
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On August 18 2017 03:34 Holyflare wrote: Hopeless is town, then weak town. Rayn is null then waffle hard because reasons. I don't see any mention of ff from you at all other than an "oh i thought he's towny". Somehow rayn isn't your vote. Why? did you notice that ***two days and rayn's mini-blowup passed*** between the posts you quoted Also you spend your time making a town case on copcake, why? Why do you spend all your time on that but run out of time to look at the 3 people up for lynch and somehow read hopeless in 3 minutes? i spent my time ***before the lynch pool was announced*** casing my strongest townread because i did not trust the other two as much. and then when i knew who we could even lynch into you announced that you were shooting rayn and so i left for a bit, and then when i came back (admittedly much too close to deadline) i realized rayn wasn't going to die anyway so i speed-read ff's and 1der's filters and came to the conclusion that ff was highly likely town and 1der was less likely town. | ||
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On August 18 2017 03:53 geript wrote: No. That's bullshit. Look at this: Clearly he's "caught up." Yet he flat out ignores a huge ass case on him? He flat out tries to say I'm scummy yet has nothing to call me scum for? His townreads are shit. Of course it's important to bring back up because I'm not going to let him slide a rock solid case under the rug.
so basically you have misrepresented me in every single thing you said. congrats. | ||
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On August 18 2017 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think he means you don't imply your read on me changes between there anywhere. yeah, and i don't think i posted about anything but hf's vig shot in that gap either. but at about the point where i heard about hf's vig shot i had started townreading you, and it may or may not show in those interactions with hf. | ||
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On August 17 2017 11:00 geript wrote: I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1. What I care about is this: How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this: So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done. I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me. is this the case geript is talking about? because it seems to be entirely predicated on me disliking 1der's posts and me claiming to read the filters when in reality i did not. to which i say: - i didn't dislike 1der's posts (in fact, i only said positive things about them), but i liked ff's posts more than i liked 1der's posts. - i skimmed the filters, but i skim filters most of the time anyway, because what i am looking for is tone and reactions. (plus i had already read through the first parts of the filters so that sped things up considerably.) not Systematically and Logically analysing people's Logic in Every Post, though i am sure you would like me to. | ||
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On August 18 2017 04:16 geript wrote: TW: "Here's my updated reads" Also TW: "I haven't finished catching up" TW: "Puts X person in a list that contains all scum" Also TW: "X person is not scummy" The yo-yo is real have you ever heard of process of elimination? it seems you have not, so let me break it down for you: step 1: read the game thread and, when i feel like it, people's filters. post also. step 2: when someone looks very townie, especially if they have looked that way for an extended period of time, eliminate them from the lynch pool. step 3: as the game goes on, you may spot more very townie players, and eventually you will have a lynch pool where you can be reasonably confident in the success of a lynch from it, despite not having reasons that those players are mafia. | ||
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On August 18 2017 04:25 Tumblewood wrote: have you ever heard of process of elimination? it seems you have not, so let me break it down for you: step 1: read the game thread and, when i feel like it, people's filters. post also. step 2: when someone looks very townie, especially if they have looked that way for an extended period of time, eliminate them from the lynch pool. step 3: as the game goes on, you may spot more very townie players, and eventually you will have a lynch pool where you can be reasonably confident in the success of a lynch from it, despite not having reasons that those players are mafia. so either you can lynch me for having Not Enough Scumreads, which is understandable if misguided (as i have had this problem multiple times, notably in generic 1), or you can lynch me because you refuse to understand how my PoE works, which is silly. someone does not have to do anything scummy (or anything at all) to get in the PoE pool, they just have to not look townie enough to be eliminated. | ||
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On August 18 2017 04:31 geript wrote: First, when I do a PoE and separate the groups into "town" and "contains the whole scum team," by definition you are calling the people in the second group scum. Sure there's probably 1-2 townies in that group, but again you're saying those people are likely scum. Here's the important question: If you're town and haven't even caught up yet STILL, why are you even doing PoE reads or giving "updated reads" to begin with? because i am caught-up enough to eliminate my townreads from the lynch pool, and i don't have to be caught up to say "i do not at this time have a strong reason to townread this person." | ||
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On August 18 2017 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tumblewood, noone is accusing you of your poe. It is because you said hopeless is something and then, after your 3 minute filter drive you place him onto some completely different place. And if you are town noone knows why. pls he was in weak town during early d1. and then much later i restructured my reads to be PoE, and some people had looked townier in that period and some people who had not. i upgraded the people i was now quite confident were town to "town", and the 1der read from earlier did not hold much water later, so i downgraded 1der to PoE. | ||
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On August 18 2017 04:36 geript wrote: Like seriously if TW is town and hasn't caught back up to the thread, why is he making this post? Since when does town think it is important to give an updated list of reads when he's 20+ pages behind on the thread? Since when does a townie find it more important to post about where he stands 20+ pages ago, than to actually read the fucking thread to figure out what if anything has changed in his read? /end of thread 20+ is a grand exaggeration. i am missing less than pages between 70 and 80. my townreads are confident enough that i doubt anything in those 8 pages changed them, and if those are right then i think i'm well served by posting that, because i have narrowed the game down a useful amount by now. | ||
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On August 17 2017 09:55 geript wrote: Like TW upgrading his FF read is really fucking weird. It's based off of a weak town read for "Not wanting a power-up" never gets talked about and FF gets upgraded to lock town 30 minutes before the lynch. i read ff's filter when i upgraded my read, after seeing more posts that made me think he was town. that sounds pretty normal to me. Sure there's like ~32 hours at least between these reads and FF posts some in that time frame, but also in that time frame we get gems like: TW finds HF to be 60% scum and to be forcing a lynch between Hopeless and FF, agrees that Rayn is likely town OGI, etc. If he thinks HF is scum, why is he even accepting a false dichotomy lynch? i think you have misinterpreted my question. i thought that, if hf was shooting rayn, he should at least think one of the other two lynches was scummy. so i asked him if he did. What about this: Hopeless gets a major downgrade, FF gets an upgrade, and none of this gets talked about. There's not any paranoia about 60% super scummer HF pushing a lynch off scum buddy Rayn (see this analog by his "lock town" buddy). where do you get 60% from? and how do you get to decide who i should be paranoid about? I can go on. There's this gem: Where he's making the case for Cop being town for who she is regardless of alignment; it's akin to saying Rayn is town for being aggressive. There's meta. There's how he's flaunting over his reads like they're rainbows and unicorns instead of just saying what he thinks. one would think it is quite reasonable to make a town case for someone when enough votes gets them a powerup. and although i am not familiar with cake's meta, i doubt it can explain away all the reasons i think she is town, and i think it is silly to scumread me for not being familiar for her meta when making a case on her. you made cases about me in generic 3 (even meta cases) despite having played one game ever with me. There's all these fucking FF posts that he's read and liked more than Hopeless's stuff in a matter of 3 minutes. i have already explained this one Like come on judges, throw us a bone. this reminds me somewhat of rogue 1 hype when scum!koshi pushed me all game on a case based on 13 individual posts with no overarching connection. i won't say this is totally like that but i am not exactly looking at geript more favorably after this case. | ||
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On August 18 2017 04:49 Holyflare wrote: Crock of shit really. i meant by your vig shot. the only reason i was voting rayn is because i thought you were shooting him anyway so we might as well lynch him and not risk losing a mislynch on some people i didn't think were that likely mafia. | ||
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On August 18 2017 05:05 Holyflare wrote: Tw is mafia because he has too many holes in his read progression. He announced every little thing that makes someone town that looks stupid to any onlooker but he casually forgets to mention he now town reads rayn? Nahhhhhhh fam. i was under the impression (when i came back) that the thread consensus was already rayn town and all the people voting him had simply not changed it, like i had, so it would be unnecessary to say that i read him town (just like it might be unnecessary to say you read me scum). i didn't post about it as soon as i got the read because i don't like saying anything about modconfirms (i try to ignore them, mostly), but later i realized he was town anyway regardless of mod actions. | ||
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On August 18 2017 05:16 CopCake wrote: God plssss give me patience *will ignore forever rayn and holyflare for a while* Ok so I am sold 100% that TW is mafia, I mean I think he made a case on rayn of "He is town" because he knew the outcome "Rayn is town" like I said before it was obvious Rayn would be in the 3 lynch pile and he wanted to be part of that bus. Then he said FF is town (forgot why) but he is town, unvoted and waited for Hopeless to unvote and vote FF and then he voted for Hopeless. I can see 2 things with this: .Hopeless is mafia with TW so if by a miracle someone from the lynching pile of Rayn changed his vote last second to Hopeless and Hopeless turned mafia that would make TW town for deffending FF and Rayn and saying that Hopeless is scum. . If FF was the one lynched he would be "I told you so" and he wouldnt be bad. Jelaous you that you like to create hypothetical scenarios analyze this. Geript you too. this is silly. tw attacked hf's read on rayn, later the thread decides he is town -> TMI: ok, that's pretty shit but sorta defensible. and the second part of that sentence is incomprehensible to me. scumblewood went after hopeless -> hopeless is scum because bus: ridiculous, completely ignores the possibility of me not having a horse in the race at all. also there is no way i would have the courage as scum to put my scumbuddy as top town after my last list post had him in the lynch pool. the last paragraph is also incomprehensible to me. | ||
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On August 18 2017 05:24 Holyflare wrote: Yet I post that you're mafia 24/7 :p People unvoted rayn cos mod confirming and that I yelled. If you had an actual reason to town read rayn I think that's pretty important information. Also far removed from the "i didn't think rayn was getting shot anymore" that you gave earlier instead. the fact that i didn't think he was getting shot was not why i thought he was town. i thought he was town because of his mini-blowup near the 48h mark, but i voted him when you said you were shooting him to avoid wasting a mislynch unnecessarily. then when i saw you say "jk just wanted to get the thread to shut up about rayn" i unvoted because there was no point in that anymore. | ||
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On August 18 2017 05:23 CopCake wrote: I cant find the rsoultin post but this will do. If Rayn was a townread of TW why did he vote him for lynch if he found Hopeless scummy? because i thought hf was vig shooting him. but jk, apparently he wasn't, so i went with the least townie option of the three, which was 1der. | ||
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On August 18 2017 05:30 CopCake wrote: If you think Rayn was getting shot... Why vote him instead of Hopeless? We could have gotten rid of the most scummiest of the 3 and rayn. Win win. If Rayn was super town to you why vote him? At least to me it doesnt make sense. if i had the choice, i would've no-lynched given that pool because i didn't think any of them were good options. if rayn had died via vig and ff or 1der flipped town via lynch, we would have lost a mislynch. if we had lynched rayn and he got shot, only 1 townie dies so we still have the extra mislynch. | ||
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all townreads combined (40% scum) + Show Spoiler + because you can never be 100% sure rels (35%) + Show Spoiler + i really like that rels considered hf bluffing the vest, because i was thinking the same thing. (and if he were mafia and believed hf chose a check, why not kill him just in case.) still gonna need some actual posting though es (45%) + Show Spoiler + small filter, hard to make heads or tails of, but at least high-effort hf (50%) + Show Spoiler + hard to read. can push me into oblivion as either alignment. jealous (60%) + Show Spoiler + most of his reads are "things to like, things to dislike... could be town or scum" geript (70%) + Show Spoiler + i call this tell, "pushing lynchbait relentlessly despite thorough defense and debunking of most of his points" | ||
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On August 18 2017 05:52 Rels wrote: Damdred's kill points at ritoky. Ritoky and Damdred has a soul read on each other. And from Damdred's last big post he was scumreading ritoky quite heavily. this may be true. hm | ||
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On August 18 2017 06:54 geript wrote: I really thought you were going to take the cop check. I also did not get a gun  Also, I'm not dead? I need to go get food, and I'll look around then. Didn't really like Rels comeback but I don't hate the NK analysis. I think it's mostly WIFOM though. how do you not like rels' comeback if his comeback was only him commenting on hf not taking the check (which you agree with) and his NK analysis (which you don't hate)? | ||
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i understand you may disagree but i do not think he is clearly town (or, for that matter, clearly mafia). so he's a 50/50 | ||
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On August 18 2017 06:58 Holyflare wrote: Nice try. I won't take anything other than vests. Ever. nvm | ||
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On August 18 2017 07:01 Holyflare wrote: Damdred has been pretty vocal against ever and ritoky i guess? On August 18 2017 07:03 Holyflare wrote: Rels/tw/ritoky trifecta lynch? On August 18 2017 07:04 Holyflare wrote: Yeh forgot about rels. His posts are superrrr bad. and yes its on tone | ||
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On August 18 2017 07:07 Holyflare wrote: Holyflare the mafia that got elected that knows there's no blues in the game kills semi scum read by all damdred. Best plan. A+ so you're town because other people think you're town and because the nightkill was stupid. A+ | ||
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On August 18 2017 07:08 Holyflare wrote: And what's the tone that makes that mafia good sir? it's hard to explain, but i'm calling it "passive guiding." i would not case someone on it (mostly because no one would ever listen) but i still think you're mafia for it | ||
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On August 18 2017 07:13 geript wrote: Onegu doesn't get busy, he unfortunately gets sick. He has health issues. His family has health issues. If he left the game, then that's the reason. That's a bad reason to lynch that slot. plus onegu likes playing mafia more than town. he said this after jat game | ||
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On August 19 2017 01:15 Conversion wrote: someone explain to me why hopeless is a town read if he is for you? I'm not seeing it he is so convinced on such bad points that he can only be town. when mafia attack someone they try to have good reasons, and if they don't they almost always back down from a terrible read. and 1der doesn't, he doubles down. (same goes for copcake) | ||
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On August 19 2017 01:23 Conversion wrote: idk his meta, but can't mafia abuse that line of thinking and just double down on shitty logic all the time to look town? it's not like he's contributed to the thread at all aside from his bad play i'm just saying how it works, not how it should work | ||
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On August 19 2017 04:12 geript wrote: I'm consolidating on HF. Those Copcake voters look fucking terrible. i really like that the rhetoric of this game is "do what hf says or you're mafia" | ||
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On August 19 2017 04:44 Holyflare wrote: That's the overarching theme in every game I'm in though. hahhahahaaahahahaaa | ||
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On August 19 2017 04:49 geript wrote: A lynch between him and TW would be tough. Lynch one, shoot the other. how bout lynch one realize you are not infallible | ||
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On August 19 2017 05:31 rsoultin wrote: Day Two Foundation Challenge Contestants' pick The people have spoken, and they have decided that Holyflare is an artistic god. He will now have until the end of the phase to choose the item of his choice. Day Two Elimination Challenge Judges' picks ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5jBA2U9.jpg) You can choose to eliminate any of the following contestants: -ritoky -Jealous -Rels You have to vote off your least favourite contestant. You can do so in the voting thread here: <link> ![[image loading]](https://blog.hornblasters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/airhorn_l-1.jpg) lol | ||
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On August 19 2017 19:50 Jealous wrote: I tried doing stuff. I really did. Now I don't even have the means to do that so I'm not gonna bust my balls during my vacation catering to judges who make dumb picks 90% of the time and players who look at my scum case and say "eh don't feel like readinf, despite the fact that you have numbered and spoilered direct quotes it's too messy for me," meanwhile rarely putting in a comparable effort. The only player whose play is palatable here is geript so instead of raising myself to her level I'm just going to sink to yours for a few days because y'all beat all the ambition out of me. damn this decision is gonna be tougher than i thought | ||
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On August 20 2017 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Jealous is mafia and rels is not. ggnore. i'm with ya on the not rels but if you have a good reason on jealous it could make this decision a helluva lot easier | ||
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then again i still think jealous has a better chance of flipping mafia. and i like lynching mafia. | ||
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i already read that case, and what i got out of it was more that conversion was town than that jealous was scum. i'd put jealous at maybe 40% mafia. | ||
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On August 20 2017 05:16 Holyflare wrote: This is so fucking bull shit. I called it before rayn even did it. It was so fucking plain as day. Rels didn't even get to reply to rayn's question and he's already gagging to switch to jealous. Rayn has to be mafia here. It looks so unnatural. 4 jealous voters and only 3 mafia. how could it be? and rayn had already said jealous was mafia at that point iirc | ||
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why aren't you dead if you have already solved the game, you always die n1, and mafia have a roleblock? | ||
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On August 20 2017 05:23 Holyflare wrote: ????? Mafia don't have a roleblock and I won the contest. Are you mad? i could swear mafia started out with a rb + Show Spoiler [haha sick joke] + not that they dont anyway LoOL | ||
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i think the point is, mafia can sit on an rb and claim it is a vest. unlike with a vig shot for example | ||
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On August 20 2017 05:27 Rels wrote: Hf if you're town you're weirdly acting. Your read strength is not what I expect i don't think it's read strength (see hm3 d1), just how controlling he is | ||
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On August 20 2017 05:35 Holyflare wrote: Mafia have to be on the jealous train. I see absolutely 0 reason to ever not vote rels today. 0 content provided. ah yes i think it is reasonable to conclude that the wagon that flipped town was pure and all the mafia (Disagreers Of Holyflare) were on the other one. | ||
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On August 20 2017 05:39 CopCake wrote: *Tinfoils on RaynxHolyflare * i eliminated that possibility on d1 when they didn't shit up the thread more in their fight | ||
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the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia. | ||
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On August 21 2017 09:51 Tumblewood wrote: i am fine with either choice besides geript. conv and copcake are both highly town. the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia. never mind bring that down to like 40%. mylo isn't much better than lylo but mylo with vig sure is. still raises the question of, why does a non-hf team try to shoot a possibly vested hf whose town cred is at an all-time low. bring that back up to 50%, that's my final answer. | ||
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On August 21 2017 10:26 CopCake wrote: Hello apparently "super scum" person. Reads? i have list posts in my filter from pretty recently. but whatever likely mafia geript solid lynches jealous es hf not so sure rit town everyone else | ||
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On August 21 2017 11:48 ritoky wrote: What makes conv highly likely town? Copcake too if you're feeling generous. this is a feels read so i'm not gonna do a great job of vocalizing why i think conv is town, but i will say that i towned him pretty early, and every time i wasn't so sure i saw some posts by conv and was like "oh yeah, def town." this is an example of such a post (though now i'm hoping i didn't get played by emo... i would rewrite my list post to take some likelihood from other people and say conv and 1der are 20% scum each. reading conv attacks on 1der makes me less sure on 1der, and reading conv filter makes me less sure on conv.) cake is an easier one to explain. a rare combination of not-getting-anywhere and tenacity. i can tell cake really believes her reads and i do believe she is actually frustrated by people not listening. the logic is shaky but i think just about anyone can bullshit decent reasoning, so she is in a way more town for it. | ||
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On August 21 2017 23:08 Holyflare wrote: I just want to lynch Tumblewood. I don't really care about much else. His lists are so bull shit. When has he ever given % chances to his reads? If tw is mafia then cop and rayn are basically cleared town too. i haven't given percent chances to my reads lists before, but why does that make me scum? i think it's a more granular way of explaining my confidence on every read, and eliminates confusion — like, completely hypothetically, when my 33% read is in my lynch pool and everyone yells at me for an entire day. | ||
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On August 22 2017 00:38 Holyflare wrote: Because whenever I see you make a read it's based off dumb crap but it's resolute and you don't waiver on it. This uncertainty bugs me a lot. i haven't at any point acted too certain about my scumreads. except at eod2 when i really was that confident on you, and said so. and even if you don't understand them, i think my townreads are very good, and that is reflected too. | ||
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On August 22 2017 02:57 ritoky wrote: pretty cool eclipse. we had about 90-92% visibility here in seattle. oh hey, i was in bellevue for it. it was strange being outside and everything was just darker, felt like there was something wrong with my eyes. | ||
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leaving him unprotected is the best play (of course this is from my perspective but i think it is definitely the right move). if he is unprotected and dies, it clears up a major point of uncertainty. plus he is practically mafia mvp as either alignment, so no real loss. or, if he is unprotected and lives, we learn quite a bit. | ||
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On August 22 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote: I don't even think anything I've done this game has been mafia orientated one bit. All I wanted with the rels lynch was that mofo to actually play the game and he did shit all. pls i think you qualify for mafia mvp when you push cases that people don't look suspicious sheeping onto two townies, all game. and if i recall, that was not your approach to the rels lynch at all. | ||
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On August 22 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote: Actually the deaths that would answer questions are: HF Jelaous Rayns TW Cake honestly, you have the vig shot? shoot any of these people but rayn and cake. i don't care who the judges give the vig shot to as long as the person who gets it shoots one of these people. i would die, not giving up a lynch, to get this game off the crazy trail. just don't say if you got it in case of rb. | ||
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On August 22 2017 03:44 Holyflare wrote: What cases have I pushed onto two townies? hello, rels and me | ||
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On August 21 2017 05:56 geript wrote: TL:DR edition: 1. The 3 minute filter read. It's pretty bullshit that even skimming TW can go through most of a single filter let alone two. He had an earlier townread on Hopeless, puts hopeless in the likely scum group, yes only finds something (that's already been brought up) to find him as towny. 2. TW is giving "updated" reads without having actually read the thread and trying to sell it like he's caught up. So we're constantly in a state where he's both up to date and his reads are irrelevant (or mostly so). 3. TW has rels as basically town (or by far the least scummy), yet Jealous is only the best lynch "by a medium margin" and TW is "debating" reasons to vote Rels... Especially when Rels is being pushed by 2/3rds of his most likely to be scum and the last 1/3 is going to be voting for him. Like Fuck that.... 1. no, i didn't most of it. that's kind of how skimming works, you don't read most of it. i might have read 15 posts max, but depending on the posts i think that can be enough. (like maybe not for xata but ff's filter in this case had some very townie posts i stumbled upon) 2. i was missing less than 10 pages. please show me where i tried to pass it off as having read more than that. and if you honestly think i would, as scum, consciously try to exist in a limbo between up to date and irrelevant (let alone think that is how i would do it), you are bad 3. jealous had some posts (i think he was frustrated that people were insulting or ignoring him?) that gave me doubts. but i was still confident that by game logic rels was town. so jealous was better by a medium amount, because i wasn't totally sure i was right on him, but it was far from a tossup. this is the nitpickiest shit | ||
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On August 22 2017 04:10 Tumblewood wrote: 1. no, i didn't most of it. that's kind of how skimming works, you don't read most of it. i might have read 15 posts max, but depending on the posts i think that can be enough. (like maybe not for xata but ff's filter in this case had some very townie posts i stumbled upon) 2. i was missing less than 10 pages. please show me where i tried to pass it off as having read more than that. and if you honestly think i would, as scum, consciously try to exist in a limbo between up to date and irrelevant (let alone think that is how i would do it), you are bad 3. jealous had some posts (i think he was frustrated that people were insulting or ignoring him?) that gave me doubts. but i was still confident that by game logic rels was town. so jealous was better by a medium amount, because i wasn't totally sure i was right on him, but it was far from a tossup. this is the nitpickiest shit "tw said he read a filter faster than someone could read a filter" "tw posted updated reads despite missing some pages" + Show Spoiler + which i still haven't read, and yet i don't feel like i'm missing anything "tw made an offhand comment saying he thought jealous was better by a medium amount, but i think he thought jealous was better by a large amount" if this constitutes a strong scumread for you i am surprised you have any townreads at all | ||
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On August 22 2017 04:23 geript wrote: 1. Skimming a 9 page filter is not reading 15 posts. 2. Yet again wrong. It was 14 pages at least 3. Confident X person is Town and Y person is scum is a medium amount? 1. well that's what i meant by it 2. are you trying to tell me i'm wrong about what i had read? 3. and you misinterpreted what i literally just said explicitly, which is "i'm having doubts on Y person, but X person must be town by game logic" is a medium amount. | ||
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On August 22 2017 04:29 ritoky wrote: am i playing a different game than most people? WHY WOULD MAFIA NOT SHOOT GHDFJGBJDGNDSJKFON i dunno. i don't know why mafia shot an hf claiming vest either. | ||
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On August 22 2017 04:33 ritoky wrote: he was claiming a doc save on me holy jesus.... this is another part i skipped | ||
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On August 22 2017 04:36 Holyflare wrote: The only one that took my posts literally was copcake lol. She has to be mafia :D :D no chance copcake is mafia | ||
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yup. well, one time i said 0% chance nu was mafia and he was mafia, so i'll say 1% just to be safe. but if i'm even wrong on her i give up on this game | ||
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On August 22 2017 04:47 Tumblewood wrote: at least i can be pretty sure it's not hf and geript now although that was already a little far-fetched | ||
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On August 22 2017 04:50 ritoky wrote: is there any possibility that it is team "does not currently care" aka jealous/h1/rayn? i would be very very impressed by rayn's play if that is the case. there is a small possibility it is that but with disfo instead of rayn, but i don't get how d2 went the way it did in that scenario | ||
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On August 22 2017 04:59 CopCake wrote: Idk vivax nor koshi, played with superbia like 3 times and he is one of my favorite mafia players, he is like the slendy of this site. slendy? | ||
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On August 22 2017 05:02 CopCake wrote: Slenderman, super top tier mafia player :D Rayn knows who I am talking about, one of my favorites games is when I fooled him ^^ dang what other site has top tier mafia players | ||
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On August 22 2017 05:06 Jealous wrote: That might be exactly why. They might read Cop/Geript as top 2 and needed a relatively safe (in their eyes) and unlikely to win #3. i think they're just putting their townreads up there | ||
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On August 22 2017 05:32 Holyflare wrote: I'm done with this game. whoa whoa whoa just wait till the flip i think this could really work out | ||
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On August 22 2017 05:37 Conversion wrote: wait the fuck why is geript in there because he is not to be trusted | ||
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On August 22 2017 05:44 Holyflare wrote: We can cop check geript really easily. He just has to promise to 100% medic me and not lie. If he ever claims he vested as a ploy he's confirmed mafia. how is this a cop check? | ||
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On August 22 2017 05:49 Holyflare wrote: Geript dies, he's town. I die, geript mafia. Random dies, geript very likely mafia but even if he's not then some random dies and there are a lot of people who we don't know the alignment of so it's great all around. this doesn't sound like a cop check to me. the first two parts are true but unlikely, and i'm not sure a rando dying is helpful. i mean, if they have to they can just kill copcake and we learn next to nothing. | ||
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On August 22 2017 05:55 Conversion wrote: meh I think Jealous is scum for the same reasons, just not in that context alone. He just tries to seem like he's ~above~ it all and is smarter than you, but still does nothing of any substance and keeps changing his narrative when he's called out (like how many times can you make a mistake if you're so smart?) also he never replied to my post about being transparent as town, and he's really not being all that transparent now either shrug if he's scum, it's not for acting "smarter than you". i had the same exact frustration in newbie xxi with him and he was town. i think that's just how he is | ||
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On August 22 2017 06:02 Hopeless1der wrote: To everyone freaking out about the 4-4-4, let me add to the pile: + Show Spoiler + On August 18 2017 02:58 Hopeless1der wrote: Give me my gun to shoot TW please This doesnt say anything about Jealous, but at least some kind of shit actually happened this game. wrong vote. talking about part 1 of d1 | ||
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On August 22 2017 07:00 CopCake wrote: Can mafia stage the shot? Like if they are both mafia? they're not both mafia. but even if they were... that would be a ridiculous bad play. | ||
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gg to all who played and thanks to the hosts! also gj to judges for getting the entire scumteam d3  i'd like to think that i played pretty well. this was a frustrating game at times, but not really because of the setup. i think the setup had some potential, but i would rather play a regular mafia game. i think the top town voting was annoying without adding too much to the game, and i would rather see 48 hours to pick between 3 (maybe more) candidates. | ||
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. sit up in my ivory tower and decide who is mafia while being conftown | ||
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