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On August 16 2017 05:45 Tumblewood wrote: so hf, who is mafia / is there mafia between 1der and ff? i think your opinion is important given that you're somewhat forcing us to lynch between them. TW finds HF to be 60% scum and to be forcing a lynch between Hopeless and FF, agrees that Rayn is likely town OGI, etc. If he thinks HF is scum, why is he even accepting a false dichotomy lynch? What about this: On August 15 2017 07:51 Tumblewood wrote: i think 1der is town for his response to this On August 16 2017 01:35 Tumblewood wrote: thanks euros for the 20 pages while i was sleeping i read half of them and i think cake is the clearest town. i'm also moving 1der into weak town. i appreciate rayn but i'm waffling on him hard. not necessarily defending himself in a townie or scummy way, just very actively. damdred seems like town, but that said i don't know if i've ever played with scum!damdred. Hopeless gets a major downgrade, FF gets an upgrade, and none of this gets talked about. There's not any paranoia about 60% super scummer HF pushing a lynch off scum buddy Rayn (see this analog by his "lock town" buddy). I can go on. There's this gem: On August 16 2017 05:15 Tumblewood wrote: i think cake is the lockedest locked town and here is why: + Show Spoiler [some examples] + On August 16 2017 04:21 CopCake wrote: Dude wtf, what is your problem? I said several people and said who: ritoki, tumblewood in the begining, you when rayn came back etc Honestly wtf you are putting fucking words on my mouth. this indignation doesn't read as anything but town On August 16 2017 00:03 CopCake wrote: You are putting words in my mouth, I never knew rayn did that (pushing HF and both were mafia together) On August 16 2017 00:07 CopCake wrote: Here He called you mafia and you were mafia together And How am I supposed to know about your games with rayn? I am talking of the times he has been mafia with me on VS. in 2 words: righteous indignation. i think it is one of the towniest responses to have to an accusation / pointed question and cake's filter has it in spades. i think u should vote her because, among lowish-risk votes, cake is the lowest risk. jealous is fakeable because a lot of his interaction is indirect because of the paint thing. i still think he is town but it is harder to be certain with jealous. hf is also tricky to read and could definitely fake this for 1 day. i don't think cake's filter is fakeable. especially look at this: this would be the strangest thing to think of and write as scum. just no way sheep or u are mafia trying to destroy town Where he's making the case for Cop being town for who she is regardless of alignment; it's akin to saying Rayn is town for being aggressive. There's meta. There's how he's flaunting over his reads like they're rainbows and unicorns instead of just saying what he thinks. On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote: i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote: i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here There's all these fucking FF posts that he's read and liked more than Hopeless's stuff in a matter of 3 minutes. Like come on judges, throw us a bone. | ||
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On August 17 2017 10:39 Damdred wrote: Well first to the vote Thing. Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.). If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched. If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely) Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm. As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does. I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1. What I care about is this: On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote: i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote: i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this: On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote: town cake rit ff sorta town rayn conv geript jealous at least 2/3 mafia are in here 1der damdred hf es rels So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done. I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me. | ||
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On August 17 2017 10:43 Damdred wrote: I am wrong on hopeless+Tumblr btw I thought he voted for ff, so no still interesting and can be a team maybe sorta Hopeless + TW can be a team; it was brought up last game, but it's far harder to "vote wrong" as scum. It's especially so when you're already under pressure. I think TW + Cop makes way more sense personally, but without actually diving filters specifically looking for possible connections I don't particularly care. | ||
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On August 17 2017 11:03 Jealous wrote: I just had the thought that HF pretty much has to be town. Follow me here: HF gets the power role and claims he got the vig shot. If the judges didn't in fact give him the vig shot, would they not show this by not nominating him for the next PR cycle and then putting him in the scum bucket after that? It would be the clearest indication that HF is lying and deceiving everyone. The only fault with this logic that I can see is that HF could be drawing attention to himself for having the vig shot intentionally, so that judges can award it to someone else who would potentially be free from scrutiny I guess? That would be an interesting play as well; but one that could only be done from a town persective imo. Am I completely off base here? Yah, HF claiming Vig shot is basically NAI. It'd be like him claiming blue in this setup. It's something he's just going to do because he's him. He does stupid stuff as town so he doesn't have to actually do work (aka the redcheck on Rels last game or a redcheck on someone else as town but not cop a few games previous that got him lynched). | ||
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On August 17 2017 11:29 Damdred wrote: Well I they're scum together they have to be 100% be ok with bussing at that point. Or well have the vote coordination down to the second. Either are plausible it's probably better not to make super connective teams just yet. Also think it's much less likely that hopeless/rels/tw are the scum together. Like I just don't see a super bus going on that early when two If he town options are up. Like I really think the wayvrels went about eod is indicative of a scum mindset. TW or hopeless could be scum hi never together (for me at least). Then just need to figure out the last one for my poe. Why have your posts become riddled with misspellings etc since I've come back. I didn't remember the rampant misspellings making it harder to read what you wrote prior. | ||
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On August 17 2017 11:43 CopCake wrote: You are calling me scum with Tw? Ok, pls tell me, "how" we are linked together and tell me how our interactions made you have that idea. Tell me how I am fucking scum and tell me how is TW scum. You're far from a terrible lynch. IDK if you're scum with TW; I think you can just be fucking terrible. Your filter is a hot fucking mess. You react to any time you and TW get brought up, you make it look like at various points you think he's scum or could be but end up with a lame townread on him. That's only from your filter. It doesn't even go into his need to explain the Copcake supertown read on you in full based on super shitty shit. | ||
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On August 17 2017 11:56 CopCake wrote: this is only the second time it came as a topic and the only time it was brought up I said "It was terrible" but didnt make a huge deal with it. On August 15 2017 05:50 CopCake wrote: I think is time to stop to play dumb and actually give reads (tho many might consider them dumb) but I wanna be alive because I like to draw. 1.- Tumblewood bothered me a lot. Not just for the whole "your reason for rayn is nai etc etc etc" but because he posted a fucking elaborated pic. Elaborated. Shadows, ears, etc, etc. Everyone else is doing 2D and quick drawings but he took the time to drew that. The first thing that came to my mind is that he wanted to be part of the top 3 to win a power and have their other two scummates help to win that. I mean scum would have that support and they would probably send their best drawer to do that. On August 17 2017 06:55 CopCake wrote: 5. Tumblewood: He got balls to deffend me, is strange I mean who mafioso would lose the opportunity to misslynch? I saw him firt as mafia but it changed. I put him on town pile. Like, you want to show off how much you two can "never be together" and how you've "come to blows;" blah blah blah. It's like watching two young gay guys in the south secretly be in love with each other but you have to keep up the "straight" appearances. | ||
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On August 17 2017 12:02 CopCake wrote: FF had so little pages, I checked them when he got nominated, everything looking straight forward and progression was lineal, the whole "I am at work" is believable because I was also working at that time and we both had american time zones. Is something not so hard to understand. How does Fecalfeast having "so little pages" have anything to do with this. Look at the quotes. Here... I'll link them: TW not remembering FF's posts but thinking he was town TW finishing both FF's and Hopeless' filters TW posting a shitty reads post that includes secret hearthrob Copcake at the top that he made a huge amazing shitty townread on unlike anything else he's posted in the game but is obviously in no way whatsoever is connected to [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia?page=71#1413]The mods telling use to shut our traps for end of day[/url It's not at all at the start of day; in fact it's right at the end of it. He magically forgets his reasons for FF but in 3 minutes can read 12 pages of filter and call hopeless scum. You're even fucking defending this shit and you're "so obviously not connected to him." | ||
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On August 17 2017 12:11 CopCake wrote: Oh yeah I also over reacted with cakexrayn being scum together by conversion, OBVIOUSLY I only overreact to TW because we are super mafia buddies. Or maybe you overreact to Cake-Rayn because you feel bad for him because you know he has a shitty day at work and he's town and you want to give him a sporting chance. Here's a hint. This isn't about you Copcake. This is about flat out engaging the blatant discussion that TW is obvious fucking scum and trying to ignore it and shift it to something that's going to look like a shitty fight which people will ignore. But yes, please go on about how despite the obvious scum in front of us that he's really town. Please dear god continue. | ||
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Then go be town. Go make sense. I've literally proved why TW is scum. Go find who he's with. Go prove it. It's not like you're some terrible newbie. You know how to find scum right? | ||
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On August 17 2017 12:19 CopCake wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia?page=70#1393 From this post i can tell you he believes both are town but that Hopeless is more likely mafia than FF, i mean it also took ME a moment to see FF more townie than Hopeless. He got 3 minutes to decide between FF and Hopeless, ofc he would pick FF because he remembered he was a town read of his and FF's filters is shorter, I need to see if the "I like this post" of Hopeless was between the last 3 minutes because that would mean he only read FF's filter. Bull shit read the fucking posts. On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote: i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote: i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here This is clearly and obviously him representing that he's read both filters. Hell just opening reading FF's filter which was like 3 pages would take 3 minutes. You can't tell me he's not flat out lying about what he's doing and done. You can't flat out say that he thinks both are town when he fucking says 2/3rds of mafia are in a group of Hopeless +4. That's why he needs to be lynched. | ||
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On August 17 2017 12:23 Hopeless1der wrote: When TW flips mafia I want copcake and damdred up for lynch right afterwards. I'm not sure on Damdred. He definitely can be scum, but he also can be town. | ||
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On August 17 2017 12:23 Hopeless1der wrote: When TW flips mafia I want copcake and damdred up for lynch right afterwards. To explain more, Damdred's think on Rels is pretty fucking good. On August 17 2017 08:17 Damdred wrote: I think the biggest thing about rels is, he has read the game somewhat (knows I'm being a bit lackluster) has time to snipe about it but doesn't help the game or drive it forward. And if he hasn't why is he scum reading me for tho ng s that might be or not be true? On August 17 2017 10:39 Damdred wrote: Well first to the vote Thing. Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.). If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched. If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely) Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm. As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does. This stuff. More importantly, it's a lot closer to how Damdred thinks about the game as town. | ||
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On August 17 2017 12:27 Hopeless1der wrote: p.s. give my my gun please so I can shoot TW. Or give it to geript. Or HF. Or anyone. Literally anyone. If necessary, I can start a poll of "Will you shoot TW if the judges give you a gun?" geript you on board with shooting TW? No, I don't think we get a gun before we get the next lynch. Plus, shot doesn't go off until end of phase. So if HF doesn't already have a gun and shoots him tonight, I don't think it would kill him prior to the next lynch. It'd be nice to be able to shoot him before the next lynch but I don't think it's possible. Like if HF has a gun and shoots him tonight it's cool. Make sense? | ||
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On August 17 2017 11:08 geript wrote: Like you just gotta accept that HF is a liar regardless of his alignment. You have to read him on what he's trying to do; like what his goal this game is. Who he pushes is kinda relevant, but it's also what he lets go of. QFT. Literally just ignore HF claiming a gun because it's totally irrelevant. Go do something useful. | ||
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On August 17 2017 12:37 CopCake wrote: I don't understand your logic tbh, it is like you read FF's filter in like two minutes, you remember that he was your town read so you don't bother and read the recent posts of Hopeless and come to the conclusion that FF is more townie than hopeless. Like, I don't know if i am dumb or something but that is how I am reading those posts, I mean I even say "Im gonna read "x" persons filter and quick glance because most have quotes and quotes and quotes and ir hard to follow. The post he quoted from hopeless is this one. It's on the third page of Hopeless filter. So at least, we're talking about him reading 6 pages of filter in 3 minutes. Even just skimming, that's super fast. But he has like all the FF posts as super town. Just reading/skimming I'm super fast. I finished most GoT books in about 4-6 hours. I can enjoy a thread super quick. But just opening two filters and hitting all is a good 30 seconds gone. There's not time for him to have done what he's said he's done. Even if FF's filter took 2 minutes, TW doesn't even have time to reach that quote in Hopeless filter. He's just pulling out a random quote (one which I've pointed out at least twice BTW) and calling it towny. | ||
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