EPTthe (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia.
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia. | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On August 21 2017 09:51 Tumblewood wrote: i am fine with either choice besides geript. conv and copcake are both highly town. the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia. never mind bring that down to like 40%. mylo isn't much better than lylo but mylo with vig sure is. still raises the question of, why does a non-hf team try to shoot a possibly vested hf whose town cred is at an all-time low. bring that back up to 50%, that's my final answer. | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On August 21 2017 09:03 Conversion wrote: I never said vote for me? get your head out of your ass thanks No, it means you already knew people died, like... yeah, change of phase and the post before that is HF saying "I GOT VEST" | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On August 21 2017 09:51 Tumblewood wrote: i am fine with either choice besides geript. conv and copcake are both highly town. the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia. Hello apparently "super scum" person. Reads? | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On August 21 2017 10:25 CopCake wrote: No, it means you already knew people died, like... yeah, change of phase and the post before that is HF saying "I GOT VEST" ??? I was glancing over shit and didn't bother reading anyone besides the names for votes LOL. I can see why people are ignoring you.. your arguments are just like "no you can't possibly be doing this bc I said so" | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
 you can put me in bottom three but I wanna quit this game.I am sorry rsoultin and artanis but I feel like people think I am too dumb and annoying and I dont wanna ruin the game more. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
I think people react negatively towards you because you are disproportionately hostile toward any1 who comes remotely close to insulting you or disagreeing with you. Many players are also having trouble following your train of thought, which happens some people's rationale is more difficult to understand than others, but when they ask for clarity or further questions they are often met with yelling or a repetition of the same answer. This can result in people arriving at the point of "well I don't want to interact with that because getting yelled at for asking a question is not the kind of thing I play mafia for and want in my life." I know I am a little shit at times too, as are most here, who call others dumb when we are frustrated or insult people cuz we are having a shitty day; so sometimes you just have to take on people's anger and try and convert it in some way into constructive discourse. But this has turned out way too white knighty and I am disgusted with myself. An example of what I am talking about is you discussing HF with me: I say HF is like 98% cleared as town, because he is the only player who was capable of being a medic or vest and there was no NK along with some other stuff. You respond with "no HF is not clear he could very well be mafia, last game he made #huge_plays so he can be mafia." I respond with, okay I can understand the paranoia but if HF is mafia what reason would he have to not submit KP? Even the math on him vigi shooting + kp tonight doesn't immediately result in a win for mafia, so why? To which you say "because HF is capable of making #huge_plays". And as you see we have reached an impasse. Because I am going to keep asking how and why a competent mafia player would elect to forego KP when it nets no tangible positive that I can see, and you're going to keep responding with "last game #huge_plays" and baseline paranoia. And so now I can't really discuss HF with you anymore because in my mind it will not go anywhere productive. | ||
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ritoky
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ritoky
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On August 21 2017 09:51 Tumblewood wrote: i am fine with either choice besides geript. conv and copcake are both highly town. the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia. What makes conv highly likely town? Copcake too if you're feeling generous. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On August 21 2017 11:47 ritoky wrote: Conv, I never got that lynch pool list from you. oh right probably hopeless/tw and one of rayn vs geript hopeless has like deteriorated in his play. I'm about to sleep so I'm not filter diving, but I can't really remember anything good from him aside from exclaiming that TW needs to die for like 2 days now and giving lists and fading into obscurity TW because he does these like weak question pushes and doesn't really get anywhere. he's really into giving lists (I don't like lists maybe? who knows). also whenever I thought he was mafia he ended up being town, and now he's like trying extra hard so that's giving me bad feelz (probably not a v. good read) I feel like I'm missing something between rayn or geript, so this is all feels between them as my last lynch candidate I don't like Jealous, but I'm leaving him out of my lynch pool b/c of what you or geript stated (voting for HF doesn't make sense if he is scum) | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On August 21 2017 10:26 CopCake wrote: Hello apparently "super scum" person. Reads? i have list posts in my filter from pretty recently. but whatever likely mafia geript solid lynches jealous es hf not so sure rit town everyone else | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On August 21 2017 11:48 ritoky wrote: What makes conv highly likely town? Copcake too if you're feeling generous. this is a feels read so i'm not gonna do a great job of vocalizing why i think conv is town, but i will say that i towned him pretty early, and every time i wasn't so sure i saw some posts by conv and was like "oh yeah, def town." this is an example of such a post (though now i'm hoping i didn't get played by emo... i would rewrite my list post to take some likelihood from other people and say conv and 1der are 20% scum each. reading conv attacks on 1der makes me less sure on 1der, and reading conv filter makes me less sure on conv.) cake is an easier one to explain. a rare combination of not-getting-anywhere and tenacity. i can tell cake really believes her reads and i do believe she is actually frustrated by people not listening. the logic is shaky but i think just about anyone can bullshit decent reasoning, so she is in a way more town for it. | ||
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Tumblewood
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
A) I'd nk someone??? B) the judges could just put me in the bottom three if I'm lying. I am confirming to EVERYONE that I do not have a gun. Now stop this bull shit. I'm like the towniest fucker there is. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Holyflare read me mafia at the start of the game because i was trying to break the game (aka have judges nominate 2 mafia guys and one town guy). Holyflare doesn't claim the green check UNTIL ritoky is nominated for the lynch. I LITERALLY DID TRY TO PLAN THE SAME KIND OF THING AT THE START OF THE GAME, and he called me mafia for it.... When there is a green check claimed, ritoky stop doing shit. Now i know what you were saying earlier ritoky, but i didn't mean "up until this you have been playing properly as usual". I was saying there was a time, before this, when you seemed to pick up on the game and again, when the claim came, you stopped. That's how i felt. Holyflare bullies everyone into voting Rels. Even when Rels flips town Holyflare blames everyone who were NOT voting for Rels.... reasoning is "Jealous wouldn't give me the power up D1", when this is the votecount: On August 16 2017 05:26 rsoultin wrote: Day 1 Best Artists Jealous (3): Holyflare (5): CopCake (4): CopCake, Not Voting (1): Onegu In Holyflare is set to receive the judges' powerup. Voting is mandatory for all contestants. You can vote in the voting thread. On August 16 2017 05:29 Jealous wrote: ##Vote HolyFlare Jealous votes HF literally seconds before the deadline and IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO HE PUTS HIS VOTE ON SINCE HF WILL ANYWAYS RECEIVE THE POWER UP as he got to 5 first!!!! I mean like... Everything is so fucking convenient if Holyflare, ritoky, and Jealous are mafia. But: Then there is the no kill. And i don't think Holyflare no shoots. I mean it is not like it's even a bad strategy because you become "confimed town" and will 100% receive a vig shot, i just don't think he does it, because he can just shoot someone, be almost confirmed town anyways and also most likely receive the vig shot. But i don't think there was anything wrong with my conclusion earlier, except for the conclusion. On August 21 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote: so rayn are you going to explain how you went from rels is definitely mafia to rels posting nothing to rels is town let's lynch jealous or you're going to let that ominously float around unexplained? I simply thought Rels wasnt making up anything, was being honest, and didn't care about surviving. That's it. Trust me, i wouldn't want anything but to lynch Rels from those two yesterday if i was mafia. I just simply thought he is not mafia. I think Tumblewood is town. Or thought.. idk i have to read him again today because i thought he was making sense last day on the lynch phase. On contrary what i said before, Cake doesn't really bus. Also they were both on Jealous and i think Jealous is mafia so i don't think they are both mafia. I think Conversion is still town. I think that makes Eversince mafia, she basically has to be mafia since Jealous is mafia too and nothing else makes sense to me. Then one of Cake / Tumblewood. ##vote geript | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Jealous
10117 Posts
You're right, shenanigans never happen in TL Mafia games, what was I thinking trying to put up a safety net like that. Definitely more likely that I'm scum who just didn't bother to gain votes when it was 4/4/4. Just had to make sure that my scumbuddy got the PR and not me because... wait... HF, explain that one to me again? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On August 21 2017 16:17 Jealous wrote: "Jealous votes HF literally seconds before the deadline and IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO HE PUTS HIS VOTE ON SINCE HF WILL ANYWAYS RECEIVE THE POWER UP as he got to 5 first!!!!" You're right, shenanigans never happen in TL Mafia games, what was I thinking trying to put up a safety net like that. Definitely more likely that I'm scum who just didn't bother to gain votes when it was 4/4/4. Just had to make sure that my scumbuddy got the PR and not me because... wait... HF, explain that one to me again? I am not saying that is soomething that makes you mafia, i am saying it doesn't make you town because if you are mafia you can easily assume there are no more votes 5 seconds before the deadline.. Like are you trying to say it makes you town???? It's fuckign absurd. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
You say that: Definitely more likely that I'm scum who just didn't bother to gain votes... Let's assume you are town and this is your thought process. Now at the time the voting was going on, you didn't exactly think either of Cake/HF is town -> that by default means you think there is at least a chance either, or both of them are mafia. Now tell me this, if that is your mindset, why didn't you bother to gain votes as town????? | ||
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