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On August 18 2017 04:49 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2017 04:02 Tumblewood wrote:On August 18 2017 03:34 Holyflare wrote:On August 15 2017 01:26 Tumblewood wrote:On August 15 2017 00:56 Holyflare wrote:
This post was directed toward Tumblewood. Now Tumblewood is hard defending rayn effectively because he for some reason magics up that town rayn can be passive if he wants??? i'm not hard defending rayn. rayn is null at best for me. i'm just arguing against an attack on what i don't think is grounds for an attack. ta da On August 15 2017 07:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i think 1der is town for his response to this On August 16 2017 01:35 Tumblewood wrote:
thanks euros for the 20 pages while i was sleeping
i read half of them and i think cake is the clearest town. i'm also moving 1der into weak town.
i appreciate rayn but i'm waffling on him hard. not necessarily defending himself in a townie or scummy way, just very actively.
damdred seems like town, but that said i don't know if i've ever played with scum!damdred. On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff
sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous
at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels Hopeless is town, then weak town. Rayn is null then waffle hard because reasons. I don't see any mention of ff from you at all other than an "oh i thought he's towny". Somehow rayn isn't your vote. Why? did you notice that ***two days and rayn's mini-blowup passed*** between the posts you quoted Also you spend your time making a town case on copcake, why? Why do you spend all your time on that but run out of time to look at the 3 people up for lynch and somehow read hopeless in 3 minutes? i spent my time ***before the lynch pool was announced*** casing my strongest townread because i did not trust the other two as much. and then when i knew who we could even lynch into you announced that you were shooting rayn and so i left for a bit, and then when i came back (admittedly much too close to deadline) i realized rayn wasn't going to die anyway so i speed-read ff's and 1der's filters and came to the conclusion that ff was highly likely town and 1der was less likely town. Show nested quote +On August 17 2017 04:39 rsoultin wrote:Day 1 Elimination
raynpelikoneet (4): Conversion, Jealous, raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood, Hopeless1der
Fecalfeast (3): geript, Holyflare, Conversion
Hopeless1der (4): Fecalfeast, Damdred, CopCake, Rels
Not Voting (2): ritoky, EversinceIn raynpelikoneet is facing elimination from the competition. Voting is mandatory for all contestants. You can vote in the voting thread. Crock of shit really.
lol
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I gotta sleep, HF's post kinda dunked it 
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I again think Cake is mafia. I don't see fault in my post on her.
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Conversion is super town and unless Jealous answers him i think he is mafia too. And that's a problem because Rels and TW are scum basically guaranteed.
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So Cake, where, on in which post did ritoky lie?
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I readd up until p100 when i could today. I am fine with tw/rels/ ritoky, although i am not sure about ritoky. Idk which is worse, cake saying what i talked about yesterday, or ritoky realizing ot makes no sense and rhen doing nothing with it. I also dont have any reason to townread Eversince.
Gonna vote holyflare, i am completely fine him having powerup every day. I try to get back today still but i cant be sure if i can make it. Tomorrow i should be free all day after 3pm or so.
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Yeah and the Jealous thing Converion pointed out yesterday. That too. Fuck too many people.
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Jealous why is Rels more likely to be mafia than the other two?
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Sorry i am still tired, i will rephrase my question, why is Rels more likely mafia than ritoky?
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ritoky:
On August 15 2017 11:07 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 10:57 Hopeless1der wrote:On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.
i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.
i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.
with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.
but i don't really want to vote for any of them. If you had to rank them 1 - Most town 2 - Kinda town 3 - Not really town What's your call? copcake - scum lean for inconsistency, her tw read (if i even understand it right) being sheeped from hf who partially sheeped it from me but i am scum, and her obsession with the clock aka omgus hf - nothing yet. town hf lynches mafia and dies/eats shots, town mafia pushes forward his agenda consistently, town hf doesn't give much shits about outside opinions so long as things head his direction. mafia hf aggressively pockets players, lynches townies and stays alive, and has sudden shifts in his agenda post-nks to suit his new agenda (or sometimes he does this super cool slight pivot thing that i wish i was capable of). he hasn't had the opportunity to blossom yet. jealous - ???? he's funny, but proclaims self dunce which makes it feel like an act and since his geript boner died he has felt pretty preipheral, pretty hard meh. so basically i reject your categories.
Here is where you gave your reads on the people who were up for nomination for the prize on D1. Then happens this:
On August 16 2017 04:01 ritoky wrote:
am i really going to have to vote for copcake in this top shit? really....is that what is about to happen....
Note that this post happened before you claimed a scumread on Holyflare.
Now i would like you to explain this:
On August 16 2017 05:51 ritoky wrote:
i have tons of issues with copcake, but at the end of the day she has a terrible read on me that is absolutely trash imo. but she convinced me over the course of the day that she thoroughly believes her trash read. which makes her more worthy of the power than either of you two.
Cake's read on you was one of the smartest things you questioned before the power up's. It literally was, because intentional or unintentional she claimed you are mafia for lying and basically that she knew you were lying before the lying could have even happened (the posts on you and Damdred). That is a thing that can actually be scummy, even quite likely, and definitely worth questioning. Now Cake never ever answers this, even when i asked about it three days later she just starts talking about something completely different (well that's irrelevant but she didn't explain herself to you either). At the start of the nominations (as you claim in your post) HF is "undecided", so i s Jealous. Basically the only thing you found scummy in those three people was Cake's leap of logic.
And then you wanted to give the power up to her. Now this is why i have a hard time believing you actually believed in Cake being scummy -- even earlier. Which imo makes you scummy, since you either (1) tried to make someone else catch up on the point you made and push a townie (i don't think you two can ever be mafia together) instead of you, or (2) you didn't actually think the point was scummy from the beginning which doesn't make any sense to me because i think if you thought that, you wouldn't spend like half of your filter at that time over something you find irrelevant to one's alignment.
I think both of options (1) and (2) make you mafai, so can you tell me what is the option (3) i am missing here?
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Rels, can you give me a detailed reads on Jealous, ritoky, geript and Cake?
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On August 19 2017 09:18 Eversince wrote:
Anyone who wants to talk I give you gravious because I have downtime between tonight and tomorrow. Despite my overwhelming desire to tell you'll go jump off an overpass, I will try to stay around tonight while I have free time.
I am not sure if this is still your night or not but why is Rels mafia and are the other two not?
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On August 19 2017 16:16 ritoky wrote:
on lunch @ work for 30 mins, still town.
I am not sure what this means. Do you have 30 mins to play or you can play after 30 mins?
Why is it not likely a mafia -- after making a read, trash or not -- would not "believe" in it?
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On August 19 2017 16:20 ritoky wrote:
she exceeded the threshold in my mind of person manufacturing crap to push an agenda to donkey who believes in an inane read. that's generally how i read people who post things that make no sense to me, kinda like koshi, based on their conviction and sincerity in the thing that i cannot comprehend why they think it.
Koshi is completely different in terms of his town/mafia play than Cake is. First of all not many people can figure out Cake's logic even she is town so i don't really know what makes you think you should give her a free pass only because "too stupid to be scum", since that is definitely not true.
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On August 19 2017 16:26 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2017 16:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2017 16:20 ritoky wrote:
she exceeded the threshold in my mind of person manufacturing crap to push an agenda to donkey who believes in an inane read. that's generally how i read people who post things that make no sense to me, kinda like koshi, based on their conviction and sincerity in the thing that i cannot comprehend why they think it. Koshi is completely different in terms of his town/mafia play than Cake is. First of all not many people can figure out Cake's logic even she is town so i don't really know what makes you think you should give her a free pass only because "too stupid to be scum", since that is definitely not true. okay, you may know that from experience, but i don't know who copcake is, so i am applying my basic bitch metrics to her w/ the little time i have to devote to this game. in general my basic bitch metrics work for more people than they don't.
Then why didn't you ask?
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And i fully know Holyflare is showing some of his mafia signs, especially early on in the game. But he is also showing some of his town signs. I assume you still think Holyflare can be mafia. Why do YOU think Holyflare doesn't just lynch me on D1, when he could have easily done that, if you think i am town?
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On August 19 2017 16:28 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2017 16:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2017 16:26 ritoky wrote:On August 19 2017 16:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2017 16:20 ritoky wrote:
she exceeded the threshold in my mind of person manufacturing crap to push an agenda to donkey who believes in an inane read. that's generally how i read people who post things that make no sense to me, kinda like koshi, based on their conviction and sincerity in the thing that i cannot comprehend why they think it. Koshi is completely different in terms of his town/mafia play than Cake is. First of all not many people can figure out Cake's logic even she is town so i don't really know what makes you think you should give her a free pass only because "too stupid to be scum", since that is definitely not true. okay, you may know that from experience, but i don't know who copcake is, so i am applying my basic bitch metrics to her w/ the little time i have to devote to this game. in general my basic bitch metrics work for more people than they don't. Then why didn't you ask? because 1) if someone links me a filter i am not overflowing with time to go read it; 2) i don't know if the source of info is trustworthy; and 3) i read players differently than most on this site so what is beneficial to others often is different than what is for me.
Okay so, i find this to be the problem here:
Me and Cake have played numerous games with each other. I think it should be very apparent if you have read the posts between us, especially early on in the game (idk why wouldn't you since you thought she is mafia). You already had a town read on me back then, why do you trust me now if you didn't think it was worth to trust my opinion back then?
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I am by no means "mod confirmed town", you are right on that, but it is a fact everyone accepted it because Holyflare said so.
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On August 19 2017 16:35 ritoky wrote:
i think hf flipping red would move you down from town to at least null/reconsider because of it, and i would heavily look into the people who bought into the "mod confirmed" stuff super quick too.
Wait you think if Holyflare is mafia i can be mafia with him? Why?
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