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rayn and ruxxar, to each other: "nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh" (hesitantly i call that a tvt argument. i have ec associations with both of them but that doesn't matter because neither has flipped and neither is likely scum) rest of the game: [nothing, or like 2 posts that basically amount to nothing] | ||
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On July 13 2017 11:15 ruXxar wrote: No scum reads at all. Nothing fishy sticking out to you? nope not really | ||
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if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote: this could be my new sigThis game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. | ||
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On July 14 2017 03:37 Damdred wrote: I really hate this post, it reads like a page out of how Tina or art scum read me. It's almost like he wants to call me scum but can't bring himself to do it. Throw some shade and retreat, especially with how many people know my emotional meta in thread. this is a good post | ||
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cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" | ||
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you're not getting anything more descriptive because that's as far as it goes | ||
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On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote: 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings. In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good. Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons". Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that. I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. i think rux has gotta be town | ||
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... actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM) | ||
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well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reason and since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this | ||
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chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this | ||
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i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him | ||
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i was talking about when he made up a read as ---sick bait--- | ||
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On July 14 2017 05:53 geript wrote: Here's the reasons why I really want to lynch Skynx: I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored. The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where. Skynx bothers to expand a decent bit on the inconsistency. But to what point? The real kicker is here: I posted my explanation here. Rayn posted his scumread on me 14 posts earlier here. ***BIG POINT READ THIS*** Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them. Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread. People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place. Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it. TLDR 1. Skynx downplays his own post 2. Skynx picks at trivial things 3. Skynx doesn't bother to filter Rayn 4. Skynx is legit not reading while trying to make it seem like he has are the people attacking geript already all over this? cause if not i'm boutta write a sick case. cause point 1 directly contradicts point 4 | ||
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On July 15 2017 04:08 geript wrote: I'm still waiting for TW to realize that point 1 and 4 are referencing entirely different things. I'm pretty sure we'll both be waiting a while skynx explicitly says at the top of his post that he has not read everything, then you make the claim about the same post that he claims to have been reading when he has not. but that can't be true because he has already claimed to not have read it. i don't think it matters that it's in different sections of the post, it's not like he's saying he took a break mid-post to read some more so hurr durr i'm an idiot but after double checking the context is fine | ||
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don't like va lynch slightly more than skynx lynch | ||
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cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx | ||
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On July 16 2017 11:11 geript wrote: It's an interesting point, but I like his list in the first post. Actually makes me think I might be wrong on him. Maybe he's gotten better or game is relatively easy. Idk. u played with me twice. one was like my sixth game, and the other was the game voted best mafia performance of the year. also both were like a year ago. why do you keep trying to meta me based off of just that | ||
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On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Skynx is not mafia. Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never. wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town | ||
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a question: are masons ever opposite alignment? cause it seems like they wouldn't necessarily have to be both town or both mafia | ||
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On July 16 2017 14:29 emperorchampion wrote: @tumble: please explain more your ruxxar read. i don't really have a granular thing i can point to and say "this post is townie because xyz" but over the course of this game i have seen ruxxar as a player highly concerned with solving the game and little else. frankly it seems obvious to me and i have trouble understanding why so many people scumread him | ||
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On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote: And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right. Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town. the first part is patently untrue, and you just made the second part up | ||
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On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote: Why do you make this post now? It's out of context. it's always relevant when i take a position on someone that i did not hold previously. and i saw it just then because i was catching up. but if you're saying that rayn's point isn't what i think it is because of context lmk. i think it's pretty good though On July 16 2017 19:43 ruXxar wrote: I can see that. I know I look bad for my defending of VA, so I'm a hypocrite for saying this, but I think TW also looks bad for his supposed town read on VA. I wouldn't say it's definitely mafia though, since I'm town and reached the same conclusion. What most bothers me about TW, is how little doubt he has about any of his reads. His reads are static and non evolving as the game progresses. Most notably very few ingame events makes him reconsider his reads, which means that his reads are locked regardless of what we do. That is a sign of someone with TMI aka mafia. i look confident on my reads because i don't say when i'm unsure about about people and posts. like i didn't know about damdred and rsoul so i didn't talk about them. and with my va read i figured he was town only after he said he made a claim up. before that he was #2 in my lynch list On July 16 2017 19:47 emperorchampion wrote: His last response was really meh, like how can you town lock but not point out a single concrete reason why? Like if you're too lazy to filter the guy, then just say feels or that you're too lazy. So pretty interested in his further response on that. well i am too lazy to filter him, but i basically did say feels, in a roundabout way. but i'd say it's more reliable to get lock town from forty different posts than from four On July 16 2017 19:47 emperorchampion wrote: His last response was really meh, like how can you town lock but not point out a single concrete reason why? Like if you're too lazy to filter the guy, then just say feels or that you're too lazy. So pretty interested in his further response on that. well i am too lazy to filter him, but i basically did say feels, in a roundabout way. but i'd say it's normally more reliable to get lock town from forty different posts than from four. but then it's impossible to get people to listen to you On July 16 2017 23:38 Rels wrote: rux is not "attacking skynx's case on someone else" he's attacking geript's case on skynx. Does that change anything ? no | ||
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On July 17 2017 03:09 Holyflare wrote: it took you 40 seconds to get each of those posts and answer them? you had that copied and pasted as a response instead of catching up that's baddddd as i caught up i answered people's questions, but i didn't want to make 5 separate posts for them so i just added them to the end of the first one. and then i got to the last page and answered koshi's question, and i remembered about the big post in my other tab. so i posted it | ||
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you could just as easily say the opposite. "oh, mafia like not committing, so they can change their positions later as it suits them." see how easy that was? i've heard both sides of the coin on tmi and wishy-washy and as far as i'm concerned both sides are wrong | ||
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On July 17 2017 03:11 Koshi wrote: TW do you have a scumread? you. and i thought hf had a redcheck on rels so he was hard scum, but now i don't know what's what with that | ||
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On July 17 2017 03:20 Koshi wrote: Why it has nothing to do with mafia and he is wrong. Mafia has a way tougher time gradually acquiring townread than a townie has. So it happens more often that they seemingly out of nowhere read somebody town and then ignore that person for a very long time. While a townie more often uses 3-4 or more posts to read somebody town. And that post has nothing to do with actually playing mafia. wtf, my read on ruxxar is exactly what you said mafia has a hard time faking. and what do you mean it doesn't relate to playing mafia? it's part of my defense of myself, and you can base reads off of non-read-related posts anyway. this is bullshit | ||
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On July 17 2017 03:21 Koshi wrote: So you missed all the posts in which people blamed hf for fakeclaiming, the hf fakeclaim post itself and then all other posts about that. Cool. So how did you catch up? started off strong, finished strong, skipped every other page in the middle. so i've seen hf posting about how he wouldn't fakeclaim cop, people discussing a fakeclaim in mild confusion, people yelling about mason/cop setups, and some votes. and i could reread pages 89-93 but i'm on mobile and not interested in doing that | ||
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On July 17 2017 03:26 Koshi wrote: Dnu what you are mad about when I am just explaining why that isn't a "good post" because i'm trying to attack your scumcase on me, and you constructed your post out of half-truths. Dnu why that's so strange to you | ||
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On July 17 2017 03:54 Koshi wrote: Can somebody else answer Ruxxar because I don't understand what he asks. town!TW likes to solve games. TW is nowhere close to solving this game and bases reads on thread sentiment ---> mafia!TW fuck that. you wanna know where i am? town ruxxar damdred/geript town, i'm pretty sure skynx hf vivax null sl ec mafia rels koshi and no, i don't base reads off of thread sentiment. you're scum because you're a shittier version of yourself from generic 1. and it's not how i get my reads as scum either. i am solving this game, you just don't see how because you insist i solve it some othet way. + Show Spoiler + jk it's because you need someone to tunnel on | ||
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On July 17 2017 06:15 Skynx wrote: Shit you're right, it even comes after this: EC is town. what? how do you come to that conclusion after that post? (sick post btw. just based on that rels could be town) | ||
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On July 18 2017 01:28 Koshi wrote: It is extremely fucked up TW hasn't got a single vote though. Like... I haven't seen that ever. So many people scumread him but I can't get a single vote on him. strange for a guy like you with no town cred and a bullshit case | ||
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On July 18 2017 01:34 Damdred wrote: Kochi and tw give me your opinions on Rels Rux And ec Just humor me. Maybe two sentences i thought rels was scum for his reaction to the fakeclaim, but he brought up some very insightful points on ec so i think he's town ruxxar is top town. somewhere on pg 1 of my filter i have a case where i got my early townread on him, and since then he has continued to be very focused on solving the game. ec is blah except for his inconsistency in who he cases/who he votes. now that i think about it this relies on skynx being scum to make sense though. if skynx is scum ec is 90% scum, but we don't know so more like 60% | ||
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based off of generalized meta that he just made up, which even has inconsistencies with itself. his case on rsoul was the same thing. made a bad case on her and then spent all day asking people why she was town | ||
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On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote: And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right. Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town. just going through my last database games as town: cop you idiot - town tunnel on nu haunted mansion 3 - 100% town on nu, calix, grack rogue 1 hype - 100% town on daneler. also in this game scum!koshi tunneled me all game based on a bad case. that might remind you of another game in which that happened | ||
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On July 18 2017 02:29 emperorchampion wrote: Wow I'm amazed actually it took so long for someone to bring this up. I'm on mobile so it's a bitch to bring up, this happens somewhere around page 2-3 of your filter. Basically the posts where you point out rsouls interpretation of some post I had made calling out damdy for defending someone based on one post. I made this at like 6am and confused geript with rsoul in my head. Hence the follow up post of whoops he actually thinks rsoul is scum. She actually interpreted correctly what I had written on paper, although not what I meant. For you to interpret what I tried to say, and defend me on this basically was something that I could not really see scum doing. despite what i've said earlier this is a very believable read. might have to reconsider. and i think hf is town for being inquisitive about this | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:27 sicklucker wrote: that ec wagon is pretty pure tho. hum i thought you said you hadn't accepted the mason claim? | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:35 sicklucker wrote: also hosts didnt count my vote on koshi. its the tiebreaker right now too... mine either. game confirmed rigged | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:47 Rels wrote: lol TW showing up close to deadline only after becomiung the main wagon is a good sign i was here with less than an hour to deadline and the thread was quiet, so i did some irl stuff and came back. you could say the same thing about koshi. he was gone for hours before returning after becoming the main wagon | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:51 Holyflare wrote: I mean tw what do you want us to do? YOu've played like a spectator all game and that's just what you said last game when you were mafia no passion i have not. did you see me pushing koshi all this day? i am 1000x better than last game. last game i read like 20% of the thread and skated by. i have been attentive and seriously thought about this game. but it seems like the username alone is enough to get me lynched | ||
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otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs | ||
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i played this game to the best of my abilities and imo well. if that's stupid then ok | ||
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On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote: maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all? and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline | ||
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On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote: lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon the point is, your argument requires a major leap of faith when a simple explanation where i am town exists | ||
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On July 18 2017 06:23 Rels wrote: no. The leap of faith is believing that it was a coincidence you came back just after becoming the main wagon. The simple explanation is taht you came back BECAUSE you became the main wagon. no, because you're working under the assumption that i was watching the thread and intentionally not posting until i was already the lead wagon (i think that if i were to do that i'd try to dissuade people before i had 5 votes, but who can say) it's no coincidence that i came back right before deadline because mafia players typically come back into thread a little before deadline anyway | ||
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On July 18 2017 08:18 Koshi wrote: 3/4 of those votes ended on Ruxxar to save TW. Coincidence? I think not. dumdumdumdum this series of posts occupies a weird limbo between serious and joking, and isn't really either. like, "here's a point that supports my conclusion --ironic airhorn-- and here are 4 more unrelated ones." just tossing em all out there | ||
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On July 19 2017 09:03 Holyflare wrote: Tw can you give a brief sentence on the ppl you town read and why? damdred - needs no explanation you - been mostly calm and focused on doing the right stuff rather than being the most forceful person in the game. especially choosing to turn around on ec who would definitely be viable lynchbait ec - on pgs 110-112 his play is very candid. sorta reminds me of myself as town. then his continued good play since then solidified it damn, that was a lot fewer townreads than i thought i had | ||
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On July 20 2017 00:36 emperorchampion wrote: wurd dawg, so who's scum? koshi/rels/skynx is most likely, but vivax is not out of the question. vivax has a low. stamina as scum, so i'd prefer to wait him out, but so far both votes from that slot have been random off-wagons | ||
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but hf, i don't think ec is scum just for doubting whether vivax is scum. it's inconsistent and all that, but i'd give him the benefit of the doubt. if it were a solid, veteran player maybe not, but i think ec has the potential to do weird flips like that as town. | ||
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in that game, vivax replaced in for superbia d3, made a couple WoT catching-up posts, and then hardly interacted with the game afterwards. a little more active than this game but not by much. | ||
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On July 20 2017 04:05 emperorchampion wrote: If koshi is town and vivax is town, this is the team I'm fairly sure. And those are not the worst assumptions to make. those are literally the worst assumptions to make | ||
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hf fakeclaims like that all the time. i think sl even said something to that extent | ||
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like, rels, ec is tinfoiling and tunneled in it - both things that townies do quite often - and to ec, the mafia team is not a cabal and 3-man unflipped association never ever works | ||
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On July 20 2017 05:24 Holyflare wrote: Oh wtf it's lylo it's 6v3, we have one mislynch | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + this is wifom of course, but i think putting skynx under "dnu what that guy's doing" means koshi is with skynx. it just feels right | ||
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On July 20 2017 09:11 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin was town because she complained about sexism while still giving reads and then replaced out. Aka she felt harassed enough to make it a big thread thing and leave. Don't think she'd do that as mafia but there's always a new low to reach on this website. i don't think her leaving was at all related to her alignment, just based on frustration with thread behavior. as in nai and not a tactic | ||
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On July 20 2017 19:08 Holyflare wrote: Why are you voting off wagon with your scum read then? i will switch to vivax if he remains the lead wagon (95% sure it doesn't matter what order we do it) but something about voting koshi is very vindicating | ||
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On July 20 2017 21:10 Rels wrote: way more random than his other scum games. By that I mean interact sometimes with the thread and randomly states some reads. No agenda, just lazily playing the game. I retract the townred I gave him above. I think his play last game and this game is quite similar. how on earth does that resemble my play this game? | ||
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On July 21 2017 00:05 Skynx wrote: Can you fucking make up your mind??? Why Vivax over all these? He's essentially a coinflip. i don't think you understand -- being afk is vivax's mafia meta. he is not a coinflip at all. even when he came back he made 1 post and closed the thread again immediately because he cba to play as scum | ||
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active, engaged, thoughtful, good, etc i could maybe get what you're saying if you compared it to generic 1 or something, but in lxxv i was super lazy even for a scum. like, look at how many of those posts quote something versus this game | ||
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On July 21 2017 00:50 Rels wrote: I reread your filter this morning and I definitely didn't have this impression p: then idk what to say to you. it's clear as day to me but i can't force you to read it in a different way | ||
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i am never a high-post player, which doesn't mean i'm not active or forceful. filter length is a silly thing to read someone on unless they're gumshoe, especially if you only compare 3 games | ||
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On July 21 2017 06:28 Holyflare wrote: so who is the last 2 mafia? koshi/tw/skynx/ec fite koshi/skynx, ez also hf, you still can't count, it's not mylo tomorrow | ||
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On July 21 2017 08:43 Holyflare wrote: Yeh definitely, he deserves to die for being subpar he's basically given up at this point | ||
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but like... tomorrow | ||
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On July 25 2017 03:09 Rels wrote: This is a few hours after the start of the game, and rsoul's second post. rsoul's real first push being on EC is weird if they're partner. But that's not all. Just after, starting with this post, rsoul and EC have a ~40 posts conversation, at the beginning of the game, where it looks like EC is really trying to gauge rsoul. Doesn't feel like a scum vs scum AT ALL. I think I'm never considering EC as scum now that I've read that. good shit | ||
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the big thing i get out of this is that rels is either town or producing some of the best analysis i have ever seen from scum. thankfully we have 1 ML left but i will read both of their filters/meta tonight. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + if we lynch skynx - likely sl/rels runoff with me as deciding vote. or ec if they think me being independent is too much of a risk if we lynch sl - rels/skynx runoff, same sort of deal but rels probably wins this one if skynx is scum - rels is just bad. and going off track + Show Spoiler + if we lynch rels - skynx vs sl, town wins 90% of the time if we lynch sl - rels vs skynx, town wins 70% of the time if sl is scum - idk, if scum he doesn't seem to have a plan here. unless you count omgus as a plan + Show Spoiler + we lynch rels - shit goes bad we lynch skynx - shit goes bad? | ||
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this is true but unlikely. before the claim i was at 55% skynx/30% you/15% sl, and now i'm not sure. it's hard to play the odds on what sort of setup we think the hosts might make, but i can say for sure sl is more likely. scum | ||
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On July 26 2017 04:01 Rels wrote: dunno how can you think I'm double the chance to be scum compared to SL. Especially since liked my posts on him yesterday yeah... i don't know why i'm so paranoid about you, but i am. now it's the other way around though | ||
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On July 26 2017 04:15 emperorchampion wrote: Wait, since I checked skynx after koshi, and we know koshi is red, if it's not sl it has to be skynx right? no. if your checks are all correct, rels, skynx and i are all town. but it doesn't rule out the possibility of any of us being gf | ||
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Tumblewood
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On July 26 2017 04:18 emperorchampion wrote: We have two lynches so I think it should be locked up one way or the other well, no... there are 3 people who could reasonably be scum, so we have to at least pick the right person to not lynch | ||
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On July 26 2017 06:58 emperorchampion wrote: ah, so sl threw in the towel? idk, i thought he was conceding but btdt has posted and it was not a concession post | ||
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Tumblewood
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say what you want about the setup, idc + Show Spoiler [the argument that has been shitting up…] + rsoul was mostly in the right. the jokes you made were, firstly, so bad i wasn't totally sure they were jokes and, secondly, totally unnecessary. you especially should not have piled on after she told you to stop. that's all i have to say i'm not sure town won by being good exactly, because all of the scum basically landed on our doorstep. i would like to think that i played well, but i am very disappointed that i had to qq to narrowly avoid a mislynch on d2. i don't want to have to do that and i am open to advice on how to not be lynched in the future. kudos to ec for his effort and blue play | ||
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On July 27 2017 01:48 Skynx wrote: I'm trying to come up with a way of how we could've avoided the first 2 mislynches, any thoughts? how bout by listening to me | ||
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On July 27 2017 13:01 sicklucker wrote: i enjoyed lynching him. was the highlight of my week ty for moving the lynch off of me also @rsoul: who is ian? | ||
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On July 27 2017 18:30 ruXxar wrote: @tumble: Why did you vote for me when you were calling me town all game? so i did not die. i knew you were town but i preferred that you die over me because you were more likely to die later on. | ||
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superbia fucked up imo and i thought i didn't have a choise. i always have a choise at the start of normal D1.![[image loading]](https://media0.giphy.com/media/X9BYu9ZsVImGc/giphy.gif)
