EPTI'd say that's a lot better since mafia have to shoot.
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Holyflare
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I'd say that's a lot better since mafia have to shoot. | ||
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Holyflare
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His play today is absolutely uncharacteristically atrocious though. | ||
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Conversion
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Tumblewood
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On June 10 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote: TW what about you? I think I remember you saying it's between PB, me l, and ritoky and can I get an actual argument because none of you are persuading me to lynch HF over TW right now if hf is scum it is pb for sure. have you noticed how they turned into the same person now that hf is fighting me? and i have many actual arguments, in my filter. especially the ine where i detail the pros and cons of hf's claim as both alignments. i think that's page 8 of my filter | ||
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Tumblewood
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On June 11 2017 00:28 Conversion wrote: I think I mentioned that I wanted to find Mafia outside of the claims and you mentioned the scenario you just did now but the discussion didn't really gain any traction (partly my fault as people did make comments on it and I didn't pursue) the problem i've run into finding mafia outside of the claims is that ts makes 0 sense with hf but total sense with ritoky. whereas pb makes tons of sense with hf but is way to tryhard if ritoky's scum. plus grack and btdt might be mafia, but only with ritoky. i'd rather not vote someone based on an assumption about someone else's alignment. | ||
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Holyflare
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On June 11 2017 00:33 Tumblewood wrote: if hf is scum it is pb for sure. have you noticed how they turned into the same person now that hf is fighting me? and i have many actual arguments, in my filter. especially the ine where i detail the pros and cons of hf's claim as both alignments. i think that's page 8 of my filter You ignore everything about me playing the game. What I want you to do from now on, since you've detailed why I am mafia and you are town repeatedly but are still getting lynched, is start working from a world where ritoky is mafia. Even if you don't believe it I want you to try. Why does his claim and play make him mafia and who is he with? | ||
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Prison Break
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On June 11 2017 00:15 Holyflare wrote: This is a duper simple weighing up that I'm doing in my head to figure out the claims: Tw - cased day 1 massive tmi and inconsistencies, didn't have answer to bh meta claimed doc instead (but somehow answered it in tiny paragraph within 10 minutes now?), afkd all game, claimed rb all game, blindly believes ritoky claim over me and shovels as much as he can in my direction with no thought Ritoky - mediocrely towny all game, scum read ls/grack but checked btdt despite town reading (his reason was that he didn't want to lose to emotion instead of checking scum reads??), pushed some ok things, been active. They're both shit claims but one of those claims was forced day 1 as survival instead of answering simple questions and the other was to kill tw and has been mediocrely towny all game. So yeh tw looks worse on paper. In Ritoky's defense I'd check BTDT lynch LS (if I had his reads) as well You can check people yuo aren't comfortable lynching but still want to make sure | ||
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Prison Break
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On June 11 2017 00:43 Holyflare wrote: Tubesock makes perfect sense with me as mafia or ritoky as mafia because he's already gone down the bussing route with fidei. So if Tubesock is mafia with everyone, then what's the benefit in not lynching him today again? | ||
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Holyflare
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On June 11 2017 02:02 Prison Break wrote: In Ritoky's defense I'd check BTDT lynch LS (if I had his reads) as well You can check people yuo aren't comfortable lynching but still want to make sure Yes, I would agree but then that sentiment should continue THROUGHOUT his gameplay. Why would he therefore check Grack next when he was his biggest scum read? The logic does not follow through. | ||
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Holyflare
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On June 11 2017 02:04 Prison Break wrote: So if Tubesock is mafia with everyone, then what's the benefit in not lynching him today again? That's not what I meant. I was referring to tw's post that tube can't be mafia with me. I was simply playing devil's advocate that tube has already bussed one partner so why not another? | ||
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Prison Break
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On June 11 2017 00:33 Tumblewood wrote: if hf is scum it is pb for sure. have you noticed how they turned into the same person now that hf is fighting me? and i have many actual arguments, in my filter. especially the ine where i detail the pros and cons of hf's claim as both alignments. i think that's page 8 of my filter I'm partly sheeping HF because I townread him, and partly agreeing with his reads (which makes me townread him) I understand why it seems like we're teaming up but if we were mafia is there any benefit to clear out so many people as town? Like we're essentially giving Conversion, LS a conf town status for no reason. Also last game we weren't teaming up at all - but I understand people would think we'd change it up, because we probably would. But I don't see the benefit of us as scum doing this tbh. More likely that, if one of us is scum, he's pocketing the other, which is what I was semi-paranoid of. But I townread HF so I'm not paranoid of that anymore. | ||
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Prison Break
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On June 11 2017 02:06 Holyflare wrote: That's not what I meant. I was referring to tw's post that tube can't be mafia with me. I was simply playing devil's advocate that tube has already bussed one partner so why not another? Right But i'm really considering a tubesock lynch now. Because if you or ritoky get nightkilled that's good if TW is actually mafia. But if you guys live, we can still lynch between you 3, but we've gotten at least a doc, cop or vig check through now, like my suggestion would be that you vig TW and Ritoky checks TW or something like that? They can only rb one and if the shot goes through ritoky is conf mafia if TW flips town, if you get rb'd and Ritoky says TW is red we know HF is town for sure, and if Ritoky says TW is green then we know TW is green for sure. Anything I'm missing here? | ||
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Prison Break
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On June 11 2017 02:05 Holyflare wrote: Yes, I would agree but then that sentiment should continue THROUGHOUT his gameplay. Why would he therefore check Grack next when he was his biggest scum read? The logic does not follow through. Who should he have checked night 2, LS? | ||
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Holyflare
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Based on his posting he just started calling grack mafia and asked to lynch between the people on fidei at the end of night. I would have thought grack n1 to confirm. Then LS bit of a toss up guy you don't know what he is n2. | ||
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Holyflare
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kind of pathetic guys? | ||
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Conversion
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On June 11 2017 02:44 Holyflare wrote: Not Voting (3): Conversion, ritoky, Grackaroni kind of pathetic guys? chill out dood was having some lunch on a nice saturday for once here also I'm not getting any new information that's making me want to switch my vote it's going on TW. if anyone thinks I'm wagoning I've been suspicious of TW since N2, so go read my filter if you want also PB I don't want a free pass as town, but my goal going into D3 was to make myself look as townie as possible, so I will continue to play like I have been and if you still think I'm scum then what can I do | ||
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