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Holyflare
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Prison Break
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On June 10 2017 10:48 Tubesock wrote: I didn't reply because I simply don't believe your reasoning. I don't see much point in arguing about this with you, you wouldn't make a claim without already knowing all your answers. They will be thought out and reasonable. Of course you're goign to make sense and people will believe your reasons for not shooting. You're brilliant at arguing. My point is that the odds of someone, anyone really, holding their shot is super super low. And considering how prolific of a night kill you are, I just don't see it. I get you are claiming that you would prefer to die without shooting, but my point is that most everyone playing on this site shoots and won't hold. They even just shoot big question marks like ALakaslam, or Chezinu or some other mega lurker. I'm just not buying it. Tumblewood could be scum sure. It would have been really helpful if he put in noticeable work since his claim. So yeah he looks scummy, but I think mafia!Holyflare has more to gain and this world being more likely. Ritoky's claim looks good to me. I think it would be way too obvious to just drop all discussion of btdt. So maybe he did to pretect himself I don't know. Here's the thing Would HF mafia claim vig that hold his shot over doc/cop? | ||
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Prison Break
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if we're right and the 3 PR's get left alive, that's good as only 1 can get rb'd but if one get nightkilled we're one closer to it but only if we're really certain on tubesock though, thoughts on this? | ||
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Tumblewood
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Tubesock
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On June 10 2017 12:44 Prison Break wrote: Here's the thing Would HF mafia claim vig that hold his shot over doc/cop? Why not? He can call his shot later and "prove" himself. He could be hedging and being proactive to avoid town turning on him and killing him for being alive. | ||
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Holyflare
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On June 10 2017 18:53 Tubesock wrote: Why not? He can call his shot later and "prove" himself. He could be hedging and being proactive to avoid town turning on him and killing him for being alive. You think i don't think I'd have a good reason to be alive with a doctor claim and a guy that pushed mafia d1 dying? | ||
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Tubesock
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On June 10 2017 20:03 Holyflare wrote: You think i don't think I'd have a good reason to be alive with a doctor claim and a guy that pushed mafia d1 dying? I don't know what you're doing. I think you have an excuse for another night but the next day you'll need some reason. I'm answering PB's question. He is saying mafia!HF wouldn't claim vig over doc/cop. I'm saying that you could and it's not a reason to town you. | ||
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Holyflare
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Tubesock
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On June 10 2017 20:20 Holyflare wrote: Yeh but I'm town Ok. This will resolve fairly soon. We lynch one of you. One of the 3 of you are mafia. I don't think there would be 3 pr's in the game but I suppose it's not impossible. Mafia has to decide who to kill and then we know the last one's alignment 100%. Really after this next day / night we will just have to choose between me, LS, PB and Conversion as we would be the only non-confirmed. Although btdt and Grack wouldn't be confirmed if Ritoky is mafia. But I think if Rit is mafia then Grack isn't. | ||
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Holyflare
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Furthermore, of the three people that have claimed I am the only one of them that is going back through the filters, asking the claimed people questions and weighing up the facts, why aren't you? Then the fact still lies that ritoky's check on btdt doesn't particularly make the slightest bit of sense but people keep saying it does, why is that? Tw's claimed under pressure and not died for 2 cycles and tmi'd all of day 1 and afkd the rest, why is that? He blindly states ritoky's claim also makes the most sense when it doesn't. Why? | ||
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Holyflare
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LS is likely town due to being lost and not blindly calling everyone town. Pb is very likely town due to his wildly different play and coherent posts instead of picking a player to be mafia and then showing how he got to the conclusion. Conversion just posts good things all the time. Then there's you who just throws light suspicion at everyone, who doesn't base his reads today on gameplay, who instead fights tbe corner 90% of the game isn't fighting. | ||
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Tubesock
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On June 10 2017 20:28 Holyflare wrote: Let's be real here Tubesock, the rest of the game can tell the claims apart, or at least that I'm town, but why can't you after town reading me the entire game? Furthermore, of the three people that have claimed I am the only one of them that is going back through the filters, asking the claimed people questions and weighing up the facts, why aren't you? Then the fact still lies that ritoky's check on btdt doesn't particularly make the slightest bit of sense but people keep saying it does, why is that? Tw's claimed under pressure and not died for 2 cycles and tmi'd all of day 1 and afkd the rest, why is that? He blindly states ritoky's claim also makes the most sense when it doesn't. Why? I don't think you've done anything that mafia!HF can't do. I would have believed you if you claimed something other than vig. I looked back at their filters. I think the answers will be there. People usually plan their fake claims a couple days in advance so there's no way they don't have precanned answers for the predictable questions that we will have. I am considering Ritoky for the points you brought up. I haven't researched how Ritoky does claims but that's on my to do list. Part of me thinks that he would put in work so that it's not too obvious to mafia that he just checked someone. I am wondering why he still checked btdt, but am willing for him to answer as he's already been asked in thread. | ||
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Tubesock
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On June 10 2017 20:32 Holyflare wrote: Btdt is town if you bothered to check his meta once like you apparently did for me. Grack linked it earlier, totally different. LS is likely town due to being lost and not blindly calling everyone town. Pb is very likely town due to his wildly different play and coherent posts instead of picking a player to be mafia and then showing how he got to the conclusion. Conversion just posts good things all the time. Then there's you who just throws light suspicion at everyone, who doesn't base his reads today on gameplay, who instead fights tbe corner 90% of the game isn't fighting. I generally only use meta when I've had personal experience with someone. I guess technically I used "meta" about the vig thing but it was to see if you have in fact held your shot before. It is certainly not a common occurrence. You also said I post good things all the time and even loved that I posted something about BH. But because I'm going against you right now is the only reason you think I'm scum. How often does mafia actually go against 90% of the game vs just piling on TW who has been under suspicion all game? | ||
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