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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 02:41 GMT
#2481
On June 10 2017 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 11:34 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky makes a case on LS being mafia, says his vote on LS was mafia, links all of LS's posts to fidei and says he's mafia, makes a case on Grack from onegu's comment and says we should lynch grack right at the end of n1. All of these posts are n1. His btdt read is:

btdt played the emo card on me and i am hard pressed to get over that. i think his filter and play isn't particularly townie, but he played the emo card....


But he checks btdt over two STRONG scum reads.


Even with this I still am pretty sure you're the mafia.

To be fair on ritoky he did check Grack night 2 who he was tunneled on. But ya I would think he would of checked me night 1 as well.


If you're making a cop play of course you're going to say you checked the guy you're tunneled on? He leaves you as a mislynch because you're very lynchable.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 02:41 GMT
#2482
fine
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 02:42 GMT
#2483
Oh baby is TW gonna wriggle out of this concrete scum bait? I don't think so it's impossible.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 02:48 GMT
#2484
mostly semi-recent stuff like titanic 7, ffl. he tryharded in kinda vanilla but also there was yuma, you only shoot once, where he was p lazy. but i also picked out some random ones from the middle of his filter. i don't remember which ones those were but, say, mario mini mafia is an example i found clicking randomly again
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 02:49 GMT
#2485
i hope you can die in peace now. the world will forever be brighter now that i list some games from blazinghand's filter
good times for all
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 10 2017 02:50 GMT
#2486
On June 10 2017 11:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 11:34 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky makes a case on LS being mafia, says his vote on LS was mafia, links all of LS's posts to fidei and says he's mafia, makes a case on Grack from onegu's comment and says we should lynch grack right at the end of n1. All of these posts are n1. His btdt read is:

btdt played the emo card on me and i am hard pressed to get over that. i think his filter and play isn't particularly townie, but he played the emo card....


But he checks btdt over two STRONG scum reads.


Even with this I still am pretty sure you're the mafia.

To be fair on ritoky he did check Grack night 2 who he was tunneled on. But ya I would think he would of checked me night 1 as well.


If you're making a cop play of course you're going to say you checked the guy you're tunneled on? He leaves you as a mislynch because you're very lynchable.

True didn't think of that honestly.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 10 2017 02:56 GMT
#2487
why are we lynching HF first when lynching TW gives just as much information. if TW flips doctor insta lynch HF tbh. if TW is mafia, we're in a winning position.

if we lynch HF and he flips vig, we instalynch TW, but then we lose HF as a member of town and he doesn't get a chance to use his shot.

if HF + ritoky are both town, mafia has to make a decision to leave one alive. most likely will kill ritoky and RB HF so he doesn't get his shot off.

I really don't like lynching HF over TW if we're lynching inside of blues
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 10 2017 02:58 GMT
#2488
also I just hate TW for doing nothing D2 N2 when he basically had immunity so someone other than TW tell me I'm wrong
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 10 2017 02:58 GMT
#2489
I hate TW's play when he did nothing D2/N2 **
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 03:00 GMT
#2490
On June 10 2017 11:48 Tumblewood wrote:
mostly semi-recent stuff like titanic 7, ffl. he tryharded in kinda vanilla but also there was yuma, you only shoot once, where he was p lazy. but i also picked out some random ones from the middle of his filter. i don't remember which ones those were but, say, mario mini mafia is an example i found clicking randomly again

On June 05 2017 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 05:59 Tumblewood wrote:
sorry Hf was I not clear?


You state BH is clearly town because as mafia he does WAY less:

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 10:13 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2017 10:07 Tubesock wrote:
On June 04 2017 09:55 Tumblewood wrote:
been reading through bh's meta. scratch what I said about him, he's town


Explain this.

i read through bh's past games. his filter resembles the ones where he is town and not the ones where he is scum

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 10:13 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2017 10:07 Tubesock wrote:
On June 04 2017 09:55 Tumblewood wrote:
been reading through bh's meta. scratch what I said about him, he's town


Explain this.

i read through bh's past games. his filter resembles the ones where he is town and not the ones where he is scum

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 10:26 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2017 10:21 Tubesock wrote:
On June 04 2017 10:13 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2017 10:07 Tubesock wrote:
On June 04 2017 09:55 Tumblewood wrote:
been reading through bh's meta. scratch what I said about him, he's town


Explain this.

i read through bh's past games. his filter resembles the ones where he is town and not the ones where he is scum


lol ok.

I pretty much figured that part out when you said you looked at his previous games and said he's town...this isn't an explanation at all. You stalling or something?

BH has done 0. I think he's had 1 actual real post of usefulness. Everything is mostly blowing Gracks "Lie" way out of proportion.

It's hard for me to not see the world where both you are mafia, you jump on me for throwing suspicion on him, then back off because I am willing to fight. Then you weakly say you could lynch BH, but then retract for shit reasons.

bh's scum games are just too much less involved to call this one of them. not only lower on posts but less actual content in his posts, less cases, etc. i hope my explanation was worthy of your blessed eyes


I'll make it easy:

[N] You Only Shoot Once Mafia Mafia Recruiting-Mason//Traitor Lynched Day 3 - 4 pages
[M][N] Yuma Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 2 - 3 pages
[M][N] Noir Mini Mafia: Chapter 2 Town Veteran Lynched Day 1 - 7 pages
[M][T] Cell (Mini?) Mafia III Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 5 - 6 pages
[M][N] Fantasy Football (FFL) Mini Town Vanilla Killed Night 2 - 11 pages
[T] Hearthstone Mafia Town Thrall Killed Night 1 - 4 pages
[N] VII Titanic Mini Mafia: I Have a Cunning Plan... Town Jailkeeper Survived Night 4 - 19 pages
[T] Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal Mafia Inspector G. Lestrade Survived Night 4 - 13 pages
[M][N] Noir Mini Mafia: Chapter 3 Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1 - 2 pages
[N] Assassination Mafia! Town Anti-Nuker Lynched Day 2 - 7 pages
[M][N] Mini Mafia: The kinda Vanilla Experience Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 6 - 20 pages

Now that's going back realllyyy far which I don't think you would have done, you should be (and most likely would be) looking at his latest games. All of his last mafia games have had his highest page filter counts and basically content counts in the previous few games of his. So, when you say he has more content, more filter length I think that's incredibly disingenuous because that's just not true at all.

So, which games of his did you read exactly? This read looks really fabricated to me.



So you looked through his most recent scum games of 20 pages + etc you looked through his town games as well as a town game from 5 YEARS ago and concluded that he does way more as town than mafia. Even though that is false when you look at this list?

You also made that meta read when he had lile 1-2 pages of just pointless spam. What made you town read him?


Furthermore you posted that post just now within 10 minutes and it's a tiny non committal throwaway but somehow you'd much rather claim cop day 1 and call us all bad instead of spending 30 seconds writing thr same thing then. Why?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 03:00 GMT
#2491
On June 10 2017 11:56 Conversion wrote:
why are we lynching HF first when lynching TW gives just as much information. if TW flips doctor insta lynch HF tbh. if TW is mafia, we're in a winning position.

if we lynch HF and he flips vig, we instalynch TW, but then we lose HF as a member of town and he doesn't get a chance to use his shot.

if HF + ritoky are both town, mafia has to make a decision to leave one alive. most likely will kill ritoky and RB HF so he doesn't get his shot off.

I really don't like lynching HF over TW if we're lynching inside of blues

the goal is to lynch the mafia one first. especially given that we give virtually the same information
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 03:01 GMT
#2492
On June 10 2017 12:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 11:48 Tumblewood wrote:
mostly semi-recent stuff like titanic 7, ffl. he tryharded in kinda vanilla but also there was yuma, you only shoot once, where he was p lazy. but i also picked out some random ones from the middle of his filter. i don't remember which ones those were but, say, mario mini mafia is an example i found clicking randomly again

Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
On June 05 2017 05:59 Tumblewood wrote:
sorry Hf was I not clear?


You state BH is clearly town because as mafia he does WAY less:

On June 04 2017 10:13 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2017 10:07 Tubesock wrote:
On June 04 2017 09:55 Tumblewood wrote:
been reading through bh's meta. scratch what I said about him, he's town


Explain this.

i read through bh's past games. his filter resembles the ones where he is town and not the ones where he is scum

On June 04 2017 10:13 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2017 10:07 Tubesock wrote:
On June 04 2017 09:55 Tumblewood wrote:
been reading through bh's meta. scratch what I said about him, he's town


Explain this.

i read through bh's past games. his filter resembles the ones where he is town and not the ones where he is scum

On June 04 2017 10:26 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2017 10:21 Tubesock wrote:
On June 04 2017 10:13 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2017 10:07 Tubesock wrote:
On June 04 2017 09:55 Tumblewood wrote:
been reading through bh's meta. scratch what I said about him, he's town


Explain this.

i read through bh's past games. his filter resembles the ones where he is town and not the ones where he is scum


lol ok.

I pretty much figured that part out when you said you looked at his previous games and said he's town...this isn't an explanation at all. You stalling or something?

BH has done 0. I think he's had 1 actual real post of usefulness. Everything is mostly blowing Gracks "Lie" way out of proportion.

It's hard for me to not see the world where both you are mafia, you jump on me for throwing suspicion on him, then back off because I am willing to fight. Then you weakly say you could lynch BH, but then retract for shit reasons.

bh's scum games are just too much less involved to call this one of them. not only lower on posts but less actual content in his posts, less cases, etc. i hope my explanation was worthy of your blessed eyes


I'll make it easy:

[N] You Only Shoot Once Mafia Mafia Recruiting-Mason//Traitor Lynched Day 3 - 4 pages
[M][N] Yuma Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 2 - 3 pages
[M][N] Noir Mini Mafia: Chapter 2 Town Veteran Lynched Day 1 - 7 pages
[M][T] Cell (Mini?) Mafia III Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 5 - 6 pages
[M][N] Fantasy Football (FFL) Mini Town Vanilla Killed Night 2 - 11 pages
[T] Hearthstone Mafia Town Thrall Killed Night 1 - 4 pages
[N] VII Titanic Mini Mafia: I Have a Cunning Plan... Town Jailkeeper Survived Night 4 - 19 pages
[T] Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal Mafia Inspector G. Lestrade Survived Night 4 - 13 pages
[M][N] Noir Mini Mafia: Chapter 3 Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1 - 2 pages
[N] Assassination Mafia! Town Anti-Nuker Lynched Day 2 - 7 pages
[M][N] Mini Mafia: The kinda Vanilla Experience Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 6 - 20 pages

Now that's going back realllyyy far which I don't think you would have done, you should be (and most likely would be) looking at his latest games. All of his last mafia games have had his highest page filter counts and basically content counts in the previous few games of his. So, when you say he has more content, more filter length I think that's incredibly disingenuous because that's just not true at all.

So, which games of his did you read exactly? This read looks really fabricated to me.



So you looked through his most recent scum games of 20 pages + etc you looked through his town games as well as a town game from 5 YEARS ago and concluded that he does way more as town than mafia. Even though that is false when you look at this list?

You also made that meta read when he had lile 1-2 pages of just pointless spam. What made you town read him?


Furthermore you posted that post just now within 10 minutes and it's a tiny non committal throwaway but somehow you'd much rather claim cop day 1 and call us all bad instead of spending 30 seconds writing thr same thing then. Why?

FUCK YOU this is the exact reason i didn't do it then. i'm not dealing with this shit
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 03:02 GMT
#2493
It's a basic question?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 03:03 GMT
#2494
who even gives a shit anyway about recency in a player who hasn't played a game in over a year
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 03:03 GMT
#2495
BH's filter at the time of your post was an RNG post and calling grack a liar and he had no involvement with the rest of the game.

Why did you say he was posting more and was more involved when he literally wasn't involved?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 03:05 GMT
#2496
What games did you think his early filter resembled?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2017 03:06 GMT
#2497
the exact reason i didn't answer your meta question was because i knew that if i tried to explain you would keep arguing his meta and the last thing i wanna do is go down a rabbit hole arguing someone else's meta. so no i won't oblige any more about that
i'm both very annoyed and very vindicated
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 03:11 GMT
#2498
So, next question now that you're dodging.

You explain that you have read BH's meta and that he was town. Regardless of whether that is true or not the fact stands that I got in a fight with vivax over the exact same topic that you researched enough to make an informed decision about.

So, why, when Vivax was pushing false meta and saying BH was definitely scum did you not say a single thing to intervene?

Why when I defended BH as a coin flip did you not weigh in a single bit?

Why did you in fact want to lynch me afterwards?

How come you 95% town read vivax even though he was pushing falsehoods about BH that you should have known were false?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 03:14 GMT
#2499
On June 05 2017 06:05 Tumblewood wrote:
ls, who would you say is "winning" the argument between vivax and Hf?


This is your only involvement in the entire discussion.

You even still scum read me after it despite pushing points you should be advocating. And vivax was still in your town list despite pushing points you would know to not be true!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 10 2017 03:24 GMT
#2500
On June 10 2017 12:06 Tumblewood wrote:
the exact reason i didn't answer your meta question was because i knew that if i tried to explain you would keep arguing his meta and the last thing i wanna do is go down a rabbit hole arguing someone else's meta. so no i won't oblige any more about that
i'm both very annoyed and very vindicated


Also perhaps you don't understand how I play mafia. In my world when someone makes a statement they should absolutely have some thought process to back it up and be able to simply explain everything they were doing and thinking. There is nothing to hide if you're town.

You seem to have the attitude that everything should be assumed and magically figured out telepathically.

If you are town and would have struggled explaining the meta points more than "Oh, he just does more things as town!" then simply saying that is much more agreeable than withholding the information and being obstinate. If your meta read was flimsy at best and based on cursory skimming of multiple games then that would also be great to know.

It doesn't all have to be arguments next time.
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