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beentheredonethat
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I am not going to put in more unenjoyable effort now since people will now auto on me next day, thanks, HF. Enjoy the game without me and already count with one mislynch less. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 11 2017 23:04 Prison Break wrote: Really btdt getting "mad" at ritoky outing himself gives it away Everyone is like "LOL" "WTF" etc. And he's like "ban him for throwing" You have valid points. I am mafia. You should lynch me. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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beentheredonethat
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HF is blue, no questions asked, and probably dead already. Please lynch me tomorrow so you can continue the game and not auto ritoky then on me and then after like 100+ hours try read these pages again. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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N4: HF gonna be dead probably. D5: LS, Grack, Tubesock, PB, Conversion, ritoky, beentheredonethat. Then, me. N5: Then one of LS/Grack/Tube/PB/Conversion. D6 Mislynch 1 - 4 town, 1 scum. N6 3 town 1 scum Mislynch 2 game over. okay, so you guys have two mislynches. If you were able to correctly read me, then even three. But you choose to make me scum because ritoky is scum. ahhahahaha this is a mafia win, predicting it now. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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Lightningstrike: 13 (14 as town in Generic II) Grackaroni: 11 (15 as town in Generic II) Conversion: 6 Prison Break: 9 (6 as scum in Generic II) Just based on activity, the lynches should be Tubesock and Conversion. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 04 2017 08:46 Conversion wrote: re: post above I'm glad that both Vivax and Grack read me slightly as town, but I think I want to read more into their interaction and presence on the board before making definite assessments. I think Tubesock is pretty dodgy-- he opened up lightly with some jokey posting, but has no real good presence on the game right now. I'm surprised people are letting him fly under the radar when he's asking other people who they think are scum/what they're reads are but not really giving any information for himself I think I stumbled over that post already D1 It's a scummy as fuck post | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 12 2017 02:41 beentheredonethat wrote: I think I stumbled over that post already D1 It's a scummy as fuck post For the record, 6-page-filter-Tubesock is still dodgy but apparently, Conversion doesn't care anymore. but has no real good presence on the game right now. I'm surprised people are letting him fly under the radar This is happening all game but Conversion somehow forgot about this? | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 04 2017 08:48 Prison Break wrote: Voted beentheredonethat Didn't like his initial "response" to me + his follow-up. "shame on everyone who scumreads me D1. Everyone should know by now that I'm simply bad at this game." Excuse to not take responsibility for bad plays so people aren't allowed to scumread him based on "bad play" also a lot of other excuses for no play "I'll check this thread every now and then for the next 4-8 hours but don't expect too much" "no I haven't read the last 3-4 pages in a serious manner yes I'm going to bed now no I'm not scum" this is lazy play at best, but I could see it being scummy play as well. making a few pushes, laying low, mentioning it multiple times which could be overcompensating (afraid people will look into it? we're in the beginning stages of the game so I doubt this many excuses are needed) saying he's not scum obviously isn't a solid defense either also to clarify my stance on Fidei86, I think what he did could be scummy, and "moving the game forward" was a possible counterargument. But I'm not saying he's actually moving the game forward, it was something I was considering at the moment and wanted to give more time. Fidei86 instantly gave beentheredonethat towncreds (while multiple people were suspicious of it), which stands out, as well as beentheredonethat "attacking me" after I "attack" Fidei86. Possible scumteam? My 2nd choice to vote right now would be Fidei86. I think both Fidei86 and beentheredonethat are good vote choices right now. wow, re-reading D1 and INSTANTLY my feelings about PB are back. The bolded part reads exactly like "hey, lemme get towncred for scumreading my partner and also let's try to mislynch" but thats just me tunneling right | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 04 2017 08:48 Conversion wrote: adding to prev post: yet btdt and fidei are readily pressuring me either for explaining my situation, or calling me scummy by making conclusions from my post that I can't really see from rereading my post oh shit I did something together with scum | ||
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beentheredonethat
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At the time this happens I am under pressure. ritoky/fidei/conversion is quite possible | ||
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On June 04 2017 09:06 Holyflare wrote: Lynch Tumblewood. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Qs4OlEJ.png) | ||
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On June 04 2017 09:13 Conversion wrote: Understood! To summarize what I think: I think tubesocks is mafia. His contributions has so far been him trying to look like he is contributing. I believe he actually asked someone for their opinions on their reads without giving any of his own. I think Vivax and Grack are town. No real evidence, but I kept up with Generic II and they both just feel town to me right now with the way they're playing. Fidei might be scum, but I'm not sure. I find it really suspicious he's not giving me a benefit of the doubt and looking to push me as scum with one post on my end. Not saying I deserve a free town pass because I suck and I'm a newbie, but my experience in 2012 showed me that most experienced players ignored me as just that: a newbie until it became important for me to step up and contribute. PB is a neutral for me because the one game I saw him play here, I thought he was town in Generic II, and he's playing rather similarly. I want to say he's town right now. I have no idea how to read Tumble's aggression and BH's posts honestly. Those are probably the people I have the biggest opinions on. So Tubesock is his scumread. He doesn't care about him later on though. Vivax and Grack are town. He doesn't care about Vivax being town later on though. Fidei "might be scum but I'm not sure", so he busses a bit but not really? | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 05 2017 09:02 kitaman27 wrote: Day One Final Vote Count Fidei86 (6): Onegu, Tumblewood (2): Prison Break (2): Conversion, beentheredonethat (1): Prison Break, Vivax (1): LightningStrike (1): Blazinghand (0): Grackaroni (0): Holyflare (0): Conversion (0): Fidei86 will be lynched. I think we can assume LightningStrike is town here. Ritoky is like "I do my thing you faggots and I'm not gonna bus here" and I think it's not likely that he voted his teammate there. That leaves not many people outside of the Fidei train: me, Conversion, Prison Break. I am town and I do know this, can't say the same about Conversion and Prison Break. PB was kinda mad at me for scumreading him and continues to tunnel heavily on me, his vote makes sense. Conversion's vote does not exactly make sense because it should be on Tubesock, right? | ||
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beentheredonethat
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That's why I was super happy in lynching TW (also because I thought he'd flip red but that's totally gut-based, exactly the same with Vivax, jsut the other way round). So of course I lynch HF, because not both scummers are voting outside of fidei, right, right?! but then this ritoky shit happens, okay, cool, one scummer down, so apparently BOTH scummers are outside of Fidei wagon. And ironically enough, I think it's not PB, I think it's conversion (but of course others think it's me, I also voted outside the wagon) | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 11 2017 19:41 Tubesock wrote: *Turns out you can't post a post greater than 100,000 characters. Pt 1 of 3ish. Over the next 96 hours or so I'm going to be compiling what I can of the non-confirmed people. I think the rest will be much less detailed, this took way too long to get all the quotes in. I'll be doing about 1 per real life day for the day after ritoky's lynch. beentheredonethat The "towny" things that btdt has done is basically showed emotional rage and threatening to quit, and staying in a tunnel on basically 1 person all game. Neither make him town. I think his rage bit is set up and fake. He nitpicks Conversion for typing "b/c" and HF rightfully calls it ridiculous. Then btdt antagonizes a bit more (scumflare), and claims that people are calling him dumb/bad. When it wasn't till much much later. 400 or so posts later Onegu says he read the dumbest thing ever on TL Mafia and that was the "b/c" scumread. But btdt was already working himself up. His flip flop on Ritoky really looks like a partner who is mad that they got some suspicion. I'm still looking for actual reasons why he scumread Ritoky early on. It looks solely OMGUS and it's weak too. Seeing how btdt was a "cop check" it's so easy to see this world where they did this on purpose too. Ritoky could drop talking about btdt and later explain it, and btdt could just remain focused on killing the newbies. His scumread depth extends as deep as OMGUS and nitpicking. Oh, and Prison Break is "calm". Which is funny since he's playing the out of control emotion card so hard. btdt I don't think you're bad at all. I'd say you're better player than I am, but this game you have pretty good chances of flipping mafia. btdt's votes: Day 1 = Day 2 = Day 3 = Tumblewood His sheep of Ritoky makes no sense at all. Ritoky is town because Rit told btdt to talk about someone other than btdt or Conversion? That's enough to sheep someone for? What? Anyway, it's late. The rest is basically a rundown of btdt's filter for easier access to fact check. I will do a couple others in the coming days but likely a more truncated version of this one. I think btdt has good odds of flipping scum. I will check the others first though. Day 1 Page 1 (Not all post) + Show Spoiler [towns TW&TS; defends Grack] + On June 03 2017 23:21 beentheredonethat wrote: Tumblewood missing Tubesock's joke in disformation fashion, full frontal. I rate that as a towny thing. The joke itself is kinda NAI, too, but then again, why would scum start to push ahead a game when they can just rely on a lackluster game start with the EU people still asleep? I feel like Tubesock is town here, too. This post feels super weird. First of all, you're here as a newbie, you're not supposed to judge if something's "cool" or not, right? The content of your post is supercorrect yet super obvious, so you do not add any value at all to the discussion. I do agree with this post. Except I wouldn't put Grack on the scum pile yet because in Generic II, he played like this all game and was town. That's all fine and dandy but if you've been here for about an hour, why aren't you posting? + Show Spoiler [PB is wordy] + On June 03 2017 23:25 beentheredonethat wrote: This is weird, again. First thing: Hard statement. "Fidei86 calls too many people out for lurking". Second thing: feels a bit wishy-washy but it also makes sense - then again, it's a lenghty version of "I don't think scum would do that so he must be town". Third thing: super irrelevant things. This is not a discussion about "how to play mafia". This is an actual game of mafia. PB is making a lot of words about not very much. + Show Spoiler [4 nonreads] + On June 03 2017 23:26 beentheredonethat wrote: I'll check this thread every now and then for the next 4-8 hours but don't expect too much On June 03 2017 23:56 beentheredonethat wrote: My motive is that I want to point out things I find to be weird. My problem is that I cannot judge right now if the things I find weird are scum or town indicative. Having read your posts in Generic II, I think it's rather easy to put you on the scum pile. On June 03 2017 23:56 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm really interested in finding out what others think about the points I mentioned. On June 04 2017 07:28 beentheredonethat wrote: shame on everyone who scumreads me D1. Everyone should know by now that I'm simply bad at this game. On June 04 2017 07:29 beentheredonethat wrote: no I haven't read the last 3-4 pages in a serious manner yes I'm going to bed now no I'm not scum + Show Spoiler [Towns LS] + On June 04 2017 23:03 beentheredonethat wrote: Hm okay. I like that point of view because you've been scum with him in generic II, so you're quite capable of judging it imho. I rate the "LS votes HF" thing townish for LS. ritoky is super investing into the HF filter quoted by LS which is a super town tell IMHO, I wouldn't put in that effort if I was scum. But I do know I'm lazy so.. meh, maybe ritoky isn't. But that plus the fact that ritoky fearlessly pushes around people (me), keeps on adding value etc, he's on the town pile. + Show Spoiler [Not "pushing" Conversion] + On June 04 2017 23:08 beentheredonethat wrote: Well I'm not exactly pushing you. It's more like it feels weird that you say "hey, I'm here" and then you leave again. That's just not helping. If you feel like helping, then at least make people ask you questions. "What do you think about the exchange of HF/TW?" "What do is your stance on Vivax?" this is something that helps making yourself more readable. You didn't especially invite people to ask those questions, on the contrary. You're saying "hey guys I'm somewhat playing" so everyone expects you to do things; except you're not doing things so boom, people even start scumreading you. "What about the others in here" is also not the greatest of things to say. There's no real reason for me to look into anyone right now as I didn't find too much that caught my attention as "super suspicious" (except for the PB thing, ofc), but somehow your "hi bras" post caught my attention. So, no, it's not "clutter" or "unproductive". On the contrary - my slight poke triggered a big "oh noes" post which contains a lot of speculation and "do not look at me". I'm totally fine with people looking into me. I'm town, after all, and I got nothing to hide, I don't have any restrictions in who I'm pushing etc. + Show Spoiler [ID Irony PB wishywashy] + On June 04 2017 23:17 beentheredonethat wrote: "Lacking a sense of humor" and "not identifying the irony" are completely different things. The first thing is the absence of the capability to laugh about something. Like "Hey, wow, I don't think it's funny that you make an ironic statement about the number of posts in this game". The second thing is "What the fuck are you talking about? There haven't been many posts in this game, why do you say there were many posts in this game?!" The second thing is exactly what happened. TW missed the irony. He simply "didn't get it". He did not find it "not humourous", he missed the joke. That is NAI at best. If you have your judgment there from "experience", then please point me to some games where you have made those experiences in. You've shown already you're willing to dig filters from other games, so go ahead. Yes, I have defended Grack and your interpretation of that is entirely possible. Not much to say against that. But it's of course possible that you interpret it that way because you want to scumread me. It's also entirely possible that I simply said this to make Vivax aware of something - especially since Grack was in LYLO in generic II and half the obs QT was sure he was scum. So much to that  . What does "prods the new player" mean? As you might've realized, I'm not a native speaker. PBs reads at that point are wishy-washy, ritoky, and if you call that a solid read, then you're misrepresenting things. If there are more questions towards me coming from that case, feel free to ask, I'm here. + Show Spoiler [Rit pissed cause bad, BH RNG fishy] + On June 04 2017 23:18 beentheredonethat wrote: your whole case feels like you're pissed off over me being bad instead of having solid reasons for me being scum. Take a step back and reconsider? + Show Spoiler [<3 TS & Grack? Weird Conv Post] + On June 04 2017 23:26 beentheredonethat wrote: <3 On a more serious note though, I like your thought process quite a lot. It feels genuine. On June 04 2017 23:29 beentheredonethat wrote: One more super weird post that doesn't really add much. I might get tunneled and be over-"whatthefucked" by a newbie. But what if not? Page 2 + Show Spoiler [whoaX3 Conv is wordy, "whatthehe…] + On June 04 2017 23:32 beentheredonethat wrote: "I'd appreciate some effort into why you think my posts are scummy so I can understand" whoawhoawhoa, so many words for not really much. What is hard to understand about "hey, you said you're here but you didn't do anything, so why say that you're here in the first place"? On June 04 2017 23:33 beentheredonethat wrote: My "whattheheck" feeling about Conversion keeps growing and growing + Show Spoiler [nitpicks phone vs pc posting] + On June 04 2017 23:35 beentheredonethat wrote: 1. You're on a phone 2. You're typing super long sentences with correct spelling and punctuation. 3. You go out of your way to even type "b/c" which on mobile should be harder to type then "because" You're either overly dedicated to correct spelling, punctuation, wording and what not - or you weren't typing from mobile and you're making excuses. + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2017 23:37 beentheredonethat wrote: Why do you mention the people that do townread you when you're asked the opposite thing? Why is Tubesock dodgy and why do you not scumread me although you said you'd almost do so in the posts just before? + Show Spoiler [HF U lazy bum; I'm bad 2017…] + On June 04 2017 23:38 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm reading up the pages I didn't read while I'm cooking. If you want to put me onto something, then quote it and ask me about it you lazy bum On June 04 2017 23:39 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm not a vet I'm a bad player, I already got nomination for 2017's worst play + Show Spoiler [lied typer; Rit town, 1gu town secret] + On June 04 2017 23:39 beentheredonethat wrote: I already lied about phone posting when I was scum so why wouldn't he do it? I used it as an excuse to not post what I think in full lenght On June 04 2017 23:41 beentheredonethat wrote: stuck on page 11, cooking is done. ritoky town hf dunno, can be both, if alive >D3, lynch with fire etc I don't care about pretty much everyone else, can be lynched except Onegu, for some super weird reason I think Onegu's town but I'm not gonna share this reason + Show Spoiler [not only here for shit, fine with dumb] + On June 04 2017 23:43 beentheredonethat wrote: ok. If you're interested in my opinion about something and not only here to give me some shit, feel free to ask me whatever you want. I'll read up pages 11-this once I've eaten. On June 05 2017 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote: so everyone's fine with sitting back and calling me dumb ok  let me know if there's something interesting at any point+ Show Spoiler [PB cheap &stupid; let happen] + On June 05 2017 01:35 beentheredonethat wrote: ahahah these wagons mind my words: PB still voting me is so cheap and stupid. if he keeps coasting, hedging and overexplaining commonly known things, he should be lynched with fire it's not like I care though since I am bad x) sooooo yeah On June 05 2017 01:35 beentheredonethat wrote: Being VT is so super boring -.- On June 05 2017 01:35 beentheredonethat wrote: so yeah I'll just sit here and let this game happen. maybe I'll get some free towncred from that because why not. + Show Spoiler [suck as town; Rit town] + On June 05 2017 04:06 beentheredonethat wrote: im super good as scum i super suck as town story of my life + Show Spoiler [HF towns bt? PB scum soft calm] + On June 05 2017 04:21 beentheredonethat wrote: HF doesn't think my tunnel is genuine but it doesn't seem to be enough for him to push me so I assume he's townreading me? On June 05 2017 04:22 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm super fine with lynching PB, this guy smells like scum. The overall tone of his post is so super soft, so not-pushy, so calm, so zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz really lynch pb + Show Spoiler [Unholy/scumFlare & lynch PB] + On June 05 2017 04:27 beentheredonethat wrote: Wait wait wait you misrepresenting Unholycandle. 1st scumreading exclusively newbies is one thing but the game is to be continued for some time, right? not sure why it should be bad if I coincidentally start with newbies 2nd "refusing to talk about the rest of the people in the game" wait what again what is this this is plain wrong 3rd yes that's my super push for me it makes perfect sense. whats wrong on calling out someone for something that I have done as scum before? holymoly should I not do this? should I rather shut up and like, say nothing? lurk? it's at least something people cast start working with you little nut 4th i didn't drop anything about PB im totes fine with lynching that guy you're misrepresenting me in 4 points that's just super bad scummycandle See, scummycandle? it's actually possible to not scumread me for that but of course as scum pushing for a mislynch you need to paint me red. bah bah bah lynch pb/holyflare I think is a good move Hey Tube I have a better way to express your case: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/522886-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi?user=beentheredonethat Because you're just putting up quotes can you please draw conclusions Like, you post three big spoiler spoiler posts You basically listed my filter why? What's your conclusion? You say "I'm scum" and then put up quotes quotes quotes | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 11 2017 20:19 Holyflare wrote: Tomorrow you will have 5vs2 You should lynch not ritoky because tomorrow will be 100% dead discussion and tube, your biggest asset right now, will die. Lynching someone else is the most productive thing you can do. It doesn't change how many mislynches you get. So the guy with 6 pages of filter is OF COURSE going to be the biggest asset because he of course is going to lead discussion tomorrow all day? Like is that what you're saying, HF? Because it's wrong. Either auto me tomorrow so I don't need to deal with blatant idiotic scumreads anymore or auto ritoky because oh, whoops, almost forgot, he's scum and shouldn't be left alive? | ||
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On June 11 2017 23:00 Prison Break wrote: BTDT is scum and I had a good day 1? ahahashahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahashahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahashahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahashahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah v ahahashahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahashahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahashahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahashahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahashahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah | ||
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On June 12 2017 03:05 Conversion wrote: okay do you have an actual case outside of D1 or are you just trying to be cute Yeah I had several Like PB being scum, HF/Tumble being scum, I even had some hard townreads :O but of course you can just continue implying that I'm "stale" in my reads, you can of course completely disregard the things I just put up because why not? | ||
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