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On March 28 2017 00:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos just go and look at the possible combinations.
AMG cant be mafia with anyone but Koshi and based on today that doesnt make any sense. Someone can argue Damdred but that doesnt make any sense based on D2.
What happened on D2? Him not liking Damdred/Xatalos?
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@rayn if your argument for damdred being town due to him parking his vote on eden, before you claimed, why are you scumreading me? i did the same?
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On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting. Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi. Top scum is Calix. Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame.I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well: Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come. 1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read 2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads 3) "look how much work i already did" if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway. That's about all I got that I think matters right now.
From reading Eden his filter it is way more likely Damdred is his scumbuddy and not disformation. It's always wifom but Eden is not the best mafia player and it is way more likely he talks about a town!disformation here and a mafia!Damdred.
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On March 28 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting. Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi. Top scum is Calix. Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame.I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well: On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come. 1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read 2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads 3) "look how much work i already did" if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway. That's about all I got that I think matters right now. From reading Eden his filter it is way more likely Damdred is his scumbuddy and not disformation. It's always wifom but Eden is not the best mafia player and it is way more likely he talks about a town!disformation here and a mafia!Damdred.
In addition to that, though, Eden actually voted Damdred on D1 which put him in a realistic position to be lynched... And Damdred voted a (somewhat) crucial vote against Eden on D2 as well before it was at all clear how it would turn out.
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problem i kinda have is that i dont remember anything from damdy on d2, beside his vote. what was his stance on amg/xata?
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On March 28 2017 01:02 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting. Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi. Top scum is Calix. Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame.I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well: On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come. 1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read 2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads 3) "look how much work i already did" if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway. That's about all I got that I think matters right now. From reading Eden his filter it is way more likely Damdred is his scumbuddy and not disformation. It's always wifom but Eden is not the best mafia player and it is way more likely he talks about a town!disformation here and a mafia!Damdred. In addition to that, though, Eden actually voted Damdred on D1 which put him in a realistic position to be lynched... And Damdred voted a (somewhat) crucial vote against Eden on D2 as well before it was at all clear how it would turn out.
Yes. But double busses happen. That can be manufactured quite easily.
Reads can be manufactured as well obviously. But it is way easier to make "mistakes" within them. The waffle on Damdred vs the clean townread on disformation.
On March 19 2017 07:28 beentheredonethat wrote:Final Vote Count![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/RFDXes97gboYg/giphy.gif) me right now Damdred (3) - raynpelikoneet, Koshi, DeepBlueSea89, Eden1892 disformation (0) - Calix, Xatalos, KoshiRaynpelikoneet (2) - Malongo, Tumblewood, XatalosCalix (0) - disformation, Eden1892 Onegu (0) - Koshi, Tumblewooddarthfoley (1) - disformation, Tumbleweed Malongo (6) - darthfoley, Koshi, disformation, Calix, Damdred, Xatalos Tumblewood (0) - XatalosKoshi (0) - OneguDeepBlueSea (1) - Onegu Rels (1) - Rels
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On how much was Malongo and how was the thread sentiment? When Eden voted? I wasn't around for this lynch.
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On March 28 2017 01:08 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2017 01:02 Xatalos wrote:On March 28 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting. Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi. Top scum is Calix. Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame.I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well: On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come. 1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read 2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads 3) "look how much work i already did" if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway. That's about all I got that I think matters right now. From reading Eden his filter it is way more likely Damdred is his scumbuddy and not disformation. It's always wifom but Eden is not the best mafia player and it is way more likely he talks about a town!disformation here and a mafia!Damdred. In addition to that, though, Eden actually voted Damdred on D1 which put him in a realistic position to be lynched... And Damdred voted a (somewhat) crucial vote against Eden on D2 as well before it was at all clear how it would turn out. Yes. But double busses happen. That can be manufactured quite easily. Reads can be manufactured as well obviously. But it is way easier to make "mistakes" within them. The waffle on Damdred vs the clean townread on disformation. Show nested quote +On March 19 2017 07:28 beentheredonethat wrote:Final Vote Countme right now Damdred (3) - raynpelikoneet, Koshi, DeepBlueSea89, Eden1892 disformation (0) - Calix, Xatalos, KoshiRaynpelikoneet (2) - Malongo, Tumblewood, XatalosCalix (0) - disformation, Eden1892 Onegu (0) - Koshi, Tumblewooddarthfoley (1) - disformation, Tumbleweed Malongo (6) - darthfoley, Koshi, disformation, Calix, Damdred, Xatalos Tumblewood (0) - XatalosKoshi (0) - OneguDeepBlueSea (1) - Onegu Rels (1) - Rels
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On how much was Malongo and how was the thread sentiment? When Eden voted? I wasn't around for this lynch.
eden switched to damdy just b4 this vc:
On March 19 2017 05:15 beentheredonethat wrote:Vote Count![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/aqQsmtq6J2L16/giphy.gif) Every mafia D1, ever Damdred (3) - raynpelikoneet, Koshi, DeepBlueSea89, Eden1892 disformation (0) - Calix, Xatalos, KoshiRaynpelikoneet (2) - Malongo, Tumblewood Calix (0) - disformation, Eden1892 Onegu (0) - Koshi, Tumblewooddarthfoley (1) - disformation, Tumbleweed Malongo (5) - darthfoley, Koshi, disformation, Calix, Damdred Tumblewood (1) - Xatalos Koshi (0) - OneguDeepBlueSea (1) - Onegu
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Currently, Malongo is set to be lynched in at (at Saturday, Mar 18 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).
not 100% on the consent though. votes suggest the consent was that mal didnt look good, but it was not set in stone yet?
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I think the lynch wasn't really set in stone until like 30min to the lynch or so? Damdred was at least a realistic option until quite late. A bit hard to see scum just leaving their vote on him in that situation..
Besides, I'd say it's easier to fabricate a listpost than to fabricate vote behaviour. The former carries no risk of any kind, just a bit of thinking with how to make your stances, whereas bus-focused vote behaviour is very risky as scum.
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Hmm. But with Rels being around to add another vote on Malongo it is 6-3. Pff. He couldn't do anything else from reading his filter. I guess he could stay on Calix.
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On March 28 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting. Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi. Top scum is Calix. Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame.I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well: On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come. 1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read 2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads 3) "look how much work i already did" if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway. That's about all I got that I think matters right now. From reading Eden his filter it is way more likely Damdred is his scumbuddy and not disformation. It's always wifom but Eden is not the best mafia player and it is way more likely he talks about a town!disformation here and a mafia!Damdred.
Koshi this is baaaaaadddddd.
Damdred was the first one to scumread Eden. Eden voted for Damdred on D1.
The read on disformation is "if calix is scum then disfo is town". Trrrible read when if Calix is town then he can again say whatever he wants on disfo.
How about you guys read what people said on Eden and not orherwise? Double-bus theory is super dumb imo.
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Yeah, I think we've already lost if Damdred is scum... I don't see myself ever voting for him at least.
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So like AMG + anyone but Koshi is like:
"Hey let me bus Eden and lets have you super hard-defend him so i then you have to call you scum later for that" (which is also what happened...
Suuuper duuuper dumb. 
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I (bias) think the double bus theory is pretty bad. I do like people defending me though
In any case, Rayn why would you rather lynch disf for instance over say Tumble? Tumble did have a few good posts during the night cycle i'll give you that point.
I just find his early game posts a bit strange still? His read progression on Eden just doesn't jive with me exactly, to hard townreading him, then calling him a red herring and its to easy but still voting him. And his going about the d1 lynch, doesn't want to vote you off but still leaves his vote on you ehhh.
IDK it might be a bit of omgus with his constant on the damdred lynch train but his filter just seems a bit off and to willing to lynch down a list really.
I'm not sure if Koshi is starting to fall out of town or not, like I could see town Koshi believing this but i'm not sure.
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So mafia does 1 play and are townread forever? We are in a mindfuck game and it actually makes sense if it is because mafia is calling each other mafia so townies can't find people who are faking to scumhunt.
Who has the worst filter this game rayn? Do not look at fucking "events" in the game. Look at the least contributions and the most mafia type posts.
That is without doubt AMG and Damdred.
AMG hasn't scumread anybody but Xatalos (why?) and Damdred (why?) during D2. After that nothing. Today he scumread me because even though I scumread him. I also went after Damdred. Which is the least fucking mafia thing to do in case he would be town. Yet he calls me mafia.
Damdred COMPLETELY fell off after the Eden lynch. He only made friends after that and made sure to not step on any toes.
Also. If AMG/Eden/Damdred all call each other scum on D2. Only 1 can get fucking lynched. And I am pretty sure that in the last 6 real days AMG and Damdred didn't call each other scum anymore.
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I guess Damdred's recent play does leave a bit to be desired. Still, the hard (double) bussing through D1&D2 just seems too reckless.
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On March 28 2017 02:47 Damdred wrote:I (bias) think the double bus theory is pretty bad. I do like people defending me though In any case, Rayn why would you rather lynch disf for instance over say Tumble? Tumble did have a few good posts during the night cycle i'll give you that point. I just find his early game posts a bit strange still? His read progression on Eden just doesn't jive with me exactly, to hard townreading him, then calling him a red herring and its to easy but still voting him. And his going about the d1 lynch, doesn't want to vote you off but still leaves his vote on you ehhh. IDK it might be a bit of omgus with his constant on the damdred lynch train but his filter just seems a bit off and to willing to lynch down a list really. I'm not sure if Koshi is starting to fall out of town or not, like I could see town Koshi believing this but i'm not sure.
I agree on your AMG read. Good stuff.
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On March 28 2017 02:59 Xatalos wrote:I guess Damdred's recent play does leave a bit to be desired. Still, the hard (double) bussing through D1&D2 just seems too reckless. rayn, be the hero we need and solve the game
Xatalos pls. Just fucking give your own opinion. This is bullshit.
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Well, rayn is the only one here I can trust, and he's also a good player. I'd rather go down his path, even if I'm not 100% behind it, rather than detract from him and reignite a town vs town debate (giving scum the control in this already pretty tight lynch).
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