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On March 28 2017 03:04 Xatalos wrote:
Well, rayn is the only one here I can trust, and he's also a good player. I'd rather go down his path, even if I'm not 100% behind it, rather than detract from him and reignite a town vs town debate (giving scum the control in this already pretty tight lynch).
Can you give reasons why Damdred is town that does not involve Eden?
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Does anybody have meta on AMG? Is he a spammer?
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On the other hand, here are some connection thingies I thought about.
These are the pretty much impossible scumteams...
Eden & Damdred -> Damdred out
AMG & Koshi (as explained by rayn)
Eden & disformation (not sure? - but this doesn't seem very likely to me, considering disfo went fast after Eden on D2, even before rayn had claimed and was up for lynch, and besides Eden hard-townread disfo which would be a bit unusual)
So considering these facts, I don't think we should lynch Damdred or disformation today... And actually Tumblewood might be the best bet, since his vote history is pretty shady and he'd fit decently with Eden / anyone else.. What do you think rayn? Not really all that sold on disfo.
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On March 28 2017 02:59 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2017 02:47 Damdred wrote:I (bias) think the double bus theory is pretty bad. I do like people defending me though  In any case, Rayn why would you rather lynch disf for instance over say Tumble? Tumble did have a few good posts during the night cycle i'll give you that point. I just find his early game posts a bit strange still? His read progression on Eden just doesn't jive with me exactly, to hard townreading him, then calling him a red herring and its to easy but still voting him. And his going about the d1 lynch, doesn't want to vote you off but still leaves his vote on you ehhh. IDK it might be a bit of omgus with his constant on the damdred lynch train but his filter just seems a bit off and to willing to lynch down a list really. I'm not sure if Koshi is starting to fall out of town or not, like I could see town Koshi believing this but i'm not sure. I agree on your AMG read. Good stuff.
cant tell if you are sarcastic or talking about his tw read
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On March 28 2017 03:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2017 03:04 Xatalos wrote:
Well, rayn is the only one here I can trust, and he's also a good player. I'd rather go down his path, even if I'm not 100% behind it, rather than detract from him and reignite a town vs town debate (giving scum the control in this already pretty tight lynch). Can you give reasons why Damdred is town that does not involve Eden?
Well, his posts were decent / reasonably insightful at some point. He's kind of faded away as the game progressed though, so just considering his play, I wouldn't hard-townread him.
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On March 28 2017 03:08 Koshi wrote:
Does anybody have meta on AMG? Is he a spammer?
No idea
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no idea about amg meta either.
tbh thats prolly so old and a lot of stuff has changed, so not sure if it would even help
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On March 28 2017 03:15 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2017 03:07 Koshi wrote:On March 28 2017 03:04 Xatalos wrote:
Well, rayn is the only one here I can trust, and he's also a good player. I'd rather go down his path, even if I'm not 100% behind it, rather than detract from him and reignite a town vs town debate (giving scum the control in this already pretty tight lynch). Can you give reasons why Damdred is town that does not involve Eden? Well, his posts were decent / reasonably insightful at some point. He's kind of faded away as the game progressed though, so just considering his play, I wouldn't hard-townread him.
His only good moment was mid D1 to D2.
Tell me where he was elsewhere good?
Like I genuinely want to know.
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On March 28 2017 03:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2017 03:15 Xatalos wrote:On March 28 2017 03:07 Koshi wrote:On March 28 2017 03:04 Xatalos wrote:
Well, rayn is the only one here I can trust, and he's also a good player. I'd rather go down his path, even if I'm not 100% behind it, rather than detract from him and reignite a town vs town debate (giving scum the control in this already pretty tight lynch). Can you give reasons why Damdred is town that does not involve Eden? Well, his posts were decent / reasonably insightful at some point. He's kind of faded away as the game progressed though, so just considering his play, I wouldn't hard-townread him. His only good moment was mid D1 to D2. Tell me where he was elsewhere good? Like I genuinely want to know.
That's kind of what I thought too.
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On March 28 2017 02:47 Damdred wrote:I (bias) think the double bus theory is pretty bad. I do like people defending me though In any case, Rayn why would you rather lynch disf for instance over say Tumble? Tumble did have a few good posts during the night cycle i'll give you that point. I just find his early game posts a bit strange still? His read progression on Eden just doesn't jive with me exactly, to hard townreading him, then calling him a red herring and its to easy but still voting him. And his going about the d1 lynch, doesn't want to vote you off but still leaves his vote on you ehhh. IDK it might be a bit of omgus with his constant on the damdred lynch train but his filter just seems a bit off and to willing to lynch down a list really. I'm not sure if Koshi is starting to fall out of town or not, like I could see town Koshi believing this but i'm not sure.
Like this post is something I'd dislike quite a bit otherwise. So much hedging and non-conclusive points. Not good.
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(and forgettable as a whole...)
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That has been his last 6 days...
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Still, like I said, if at all possible I'd give Damdred and disfo a pass for today based on their interactions with Eden.
+ Show Spoiler +Ultimately I'll defer to rayn's judgment though.
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For me AMG + Damdred makes so much sense.
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On March 28 2017 03:21 Koshi wrote:
That has been his last 6 days...
Heh. Well, if he did indeed focus on double bussing with Eden during D1-D2, then his play after that would fit with scum motivations (basically laying low and preserving his "safe" status). IF though, it's a big IF. I could perhaps see myself doing that play, as I've done it before, but it's still unlikely to say the least. The biggest obstacle to him being scum is IMO how Eden just left the thread and left his vote on Damdred at a rather critical moment.
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On March 28 2017 03:24 Xatalos wrote:Heh. Well, if he did indeed focus on double bussing with Eden during D1-D2, then his play after that would fit with scum motivations (basically laying low and preserving his "safe" status). IF though, it's a big IF. I could perhaps see myself doing that play, as I've done it before, but it's still unlikely to say the least. The biggest obstacle to him being scum is IMO how Eden just left the thread and left his vote on Damdred at a rather critical moment.
But Eden obviously wasn't planning on not coming back. See his message. Unless that was WIFOM but that is superlame.
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On March 28 2017 03:25 Xatalos wrote:
That was D1 EOD btw
oh nvm then.
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On March 28 2017 03:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2017 03:24 Xatalos wrote:On March 28 2017 03:21 Koshi wrote:
That has been his last 6 days... Heh. Well, if he did indeed focus on double bussing with Eden during D1-D2, then his play after that would fit with scum motivations (basically laying low and preserving his "safe" status). IF though, it's a big IF. I could perhaps see myself doing that play, as I've done it before, but it's still unlikely to say the least. The biggest obstacle to him being scum is IMO how Eden just left the thread and left his vote on Damdred at a rather critical moment. But Eden obviously wasn't planning on not coming back. See his message. Unless that was WIFOM but that is superlame.
Hm... I'd hardly throw my vote on a strong player on my scumteam who is also GF/RB and in danger of being lynched, getting close to the deadline. Even if he thought he'd be back before DL.
Well, that's a bit WIFOM I'll admit.
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wait. dl is in 3h30 now not 2h30?
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EPT
