[M][N] Generic Mini Mafia - Page 139

On March 26 2017 00:27 Damdred wrote:
I don't agree with that at all.

Xata is tunnely, koshi changes reads at a moment's notice most of the time. Which he has done 999 times.

On March 26 2017 00:49 darthfoley wrote:
My only problem is that koshi has been so wrong this entire game.

On March 26 2017 00:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Well this pretty much doesn't make Koshi scum since if the team would be Eden/Koshi/disformation the player you know 100% to be town has been equally wrong the whole game.

On March 25 2017 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If we lynch town tomorrow then it's LYLO the next day.

The only thing besides DF's alignment i am 100% sure about is that Xatalos is not mafia because there was no roleblock on me last night. Damdred wasn't really around either so i have to look at his interactions with Eden. But there is no way Xatalos does not roleblock me on N2, just no way.

So first things first.

Now that the other game is over i can actually talk about this. I played another game which i was alive for 33 days. In those 792 hours my vote was on a townie for a total times of one, for exactly 1 hour and 15 minutes, because i got tilted at Rels for suggesting i would make the dumbest night kill i have ever seen. For 32 days i tried to convince the town to lynch one of the most obvious mafias i have ever seen in any game i have played. Guess who was the only townie who got lynched that game? For being wrong on Hapa's alignment for 3 days when he afk'd and i had no time to interact with him and then someone just hammered him with almost 10 days left in the phase... And even when i was wrong i was right because i was pushing the other fucking mafia. Now that is not why i get mad irl. I get mad when even after all that there are completely illogical and straight out stupid people who cannot understand any sort or logic at all and tell me how i should play mafia. I had literally three scumreads in that game and all of them were mafia, even when i didn't think Hapa is mafia i couldn't tell who the third mafia is.

So yeah, that was the 8th time i have gotten lynched as town. Out of those 8 times in 5 occasions i have only called out mafia/SK .At least almost - in that one dumb game i afk'd for 24 hrs for valentines day and came back with like 100 votes on me "bcz rayn never afks" and called out 7 people of which there was 5/5 were mafia and one SK. But no, "we are not reading your posts you are mafia bcz rayn never afks". So this is going to be most likely my last game of mafia, i have now tried like three times and it always ends up in the same way in like at most 10 games.

On top of that i have had a terrible flu for a week and i have slept like 1hr max/night and at some random times during the day when i am not working. So i am sorry, especially for Calix for my words. I am also sorry for my completely retarded night 1. I for some dumb fucking retarded reason thought that
(1) i should not jail ritoky after all because:
- ritoky is either right and Eden is scum (40%) and i always lynch Eden if he dies
- if ritoky is wrong he is probably mafia because that post looked like "polished" and too many words for saying simple things (40% -- now this would be higher but i know i am almost always wrong on ritoky's alignment early on in the game), he could be sending in the night kill if this is the case
- ritoky is wrong and is town, in which case we figure that out on D2

Now if i jail ritoky and there is a no-kill, i don't know if he is town or mafia. I then made the retardation vol 2.
Let's jail Xatalos! Because if Xatalos is mafia he would possibly send the kill as he is not being scumread (retarded conclusion). If Xatalos is somehow town and mafia is in a good position (aka if ritoky and Eden are both town), mafia can shoot Xatalos to frame me (now this is even semi-reasonable).

The fucking idiotic thing i realized RIGHT after i saw the flip is that if there is a no-kill it leaves me in the same fucking position than it does with me jailing ritoky. Except for worse. So i am so so so sorry for that ritoky. I played like a fucking dumbass who has played like -4 games of mafia.

I claimed when i did because i am pretty sure my mental state couldn't handle D2 otherwise. Thankfully Adam joined the game and saved me. I don't blame anyone for scumreading me and i don't think anyone is scum for scumreading me, and no Xatalos, i am smart enough to realize - regardless of my condition - that you are not mafia JUST BECAUSE you scumread me.

I jailed darthfoley last night because i thought there is a high chance he's scum and if he's scum he will most likely do the kill. The problem is i fell asleep at the deadline (i honestly don't even remember i put my vote back on Xatalos at the EoD 2) because i was a fucking zombie and didn't actually send in my jail until at some hour when i woke up during the night. But that was a good thing because now i can be sure about Xatalos' alignment.

Darthfoley. I sent in my jail at the exact deadline this time. I did not jail Tumble because i thought Onegu was flipping mafia and if that happens Tumblewood is very very very likely to be mafia. So basically the jail on him doesn't do anything (and if we are wrong on Onegu that is actually quite a terrible jail target - especially with his posting now). I am not going to change my target regardless and i am not going to imply who it is, but please do not check Xatalos. There is no way Xatalos does not roleblock a claimed jailkeeper in a setup like this.

On March 26 2017 00:49 darthfoley wrote:
My only problem is that koshi has been so wrong this entire game.

Wrong about the Malongo ML (not a huge deal) but he also didn't really say much about it at the time. This might've been when he was irl afk though so there may be an explanation.

He was also one of the people who switched very hard on to Xatalos when it seemed as though Eden might end up getting not mislynched. I think the numbers were like 4-3-3 Eden-Xata-disformation at the time. I believe I remember Xata remarking at the time how quickly Koshi seemed to jump on the Xata wagon. It just seems like a scum play tbh, especially if the team is Eden/Koshi/disformation. Koshi (and others) make sure the CW is Xata instead of SvS who would have a better role than AFK goon.

I also think this is a relatively safe play from Koshi POV because he's unlikely to get checked my cop (for fear of checking someone who dies) and if he's GF a cop check won't matter. Plus if you jail him and there's no kill he can very reasonably claim "wtf man I wouldn't carry the KP, I was obviously the KP target" ... or his teammate carries KP and your jail is useless

Plus now he's talking about how he is soooo lost in the game. Can someone more comfortable with his play tell me if he's ever been so unconfident of himself before?

On March 26 2017 01:53 Xatalos wrote:
Btw both of you, but especially rayn, remember to claim your actions at deadline. That way we gain info even if you die.

On March 26 2017 01:37 Xatalos wrote:
Why didn't you make your initial claim like this that

On March 26 2017 01:42 Xatalos wrote:


I agree the switch was oddly hard/sudden (from lock town to lock scum in like minutes). And it would fit the scum motive. But yeah, him directing these actions and overall playing solidly... I don't really buy it.