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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 12:31 GMT
#2721
So either way it makes no sense.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 12:37 GMT
#2722
Such a WTF game all around
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 25 2017 12:38 GMT
#2723
Eh idk if its worth thinking about right now, did rayn ever say who he jailed n1? or corroborated df being jailed n2?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 12:44 GMT
#2724
He never revealed his N1 target, but said he jailed DF N2.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 25 2017 12:51 GMT
#2725
On March 25 2017 21:37 Xatalos wrote:
Such a WTF game all around


Hit the nail on the head.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 25 2017 12:54 GMT
#2726
On March 25 2017 21:01 Koshi wrote:
I have no minute to spare today. This game is pretty disgusting. First time in I think 8 months or so I have no clue. AMG is mafia, kuddos to the other person outplaying me.

But I really have no minute to spare atm. Not a second.


Well, you're wrong on me, therefore you're being outplayed by two people right now.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 25 2017 13:18 GMT
#2727
No need to talk about it till tommorow xata if you get my drift.

I don't know what to think atm, like disf is kinda ok still. Eden had a strange comment about calix spewing him town.

Amg gasnt been bad either besides the Eden lynch, but what's the point of defending Eden there? Wifom meh.

Tumble is meh atb points but he seems to be thinking about the game.

Koshu I think is just town.

this is just a weird game...
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 13:22 GMT
#2728
I guess it's too soon to talk until we see what happens tonight. Just had to unload some thoughts on the (somewhat unlikely) event I get killed.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 13:25 GMT
#2729
However, if there's no scum lynch from now until LYLO, I'm pretty sure it would have to be DF+rayn.

In that case, ALWAYS LYNCH THEM. No matter what. I just can't imagine a scenario where we mislynch 2 times with town rayn+DF.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 25 2017 13:39 GMT
#2730
On March 25 2017 22:25 Xatalos wrote:
However, if there's no scum lynch from now until LYLO, I'm pretty sure it would have to be DF+rayn.

In that case, ALWAYS LYNCH THEM. No matter what. I just can't imagine a scenario where we mislynch 2 times with town rayn+DF.


With a godfather and RB leaving us alive as lynch bait is pretty risky but also high reward. You continue to RB cop and hope rayn doesn't go god mode. There's literally no fucking reason for us to double fake claim with 9 people left in the game. There's no reason for rayn to fake claim when he did because Eden was up for lynch and rayn/myself (in your theory) definitely could've gotten Eden lynched over anyone else.

Also, I see a lot of people commenting about how WEIRD the game is. Go find scum and stop lamenting over a challenging mafia game
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2017 13:42 GMT
#2731
Wait we are still 9 alive. Tomorrow is not lylo???
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2017 13:43 GMT
#2732
we are 8 alive, so 6v2. lol tomorrow is not lylo :p
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 13:45 GMT
#2733
Yeah there's still 2 mislynches before LYLO?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 13:48 GMT
#2734
On March 25 2017 22:39 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2017 22:25 Xatalos wrote:
However, if there's no scum lynch from now until LYLO, I'm pretty sure it would have to be DF+rayn.

In that case, ALWAYS LYNCH THEM. No matter what. I just can't imagine a scenario where we mislynch 2 times with town rayn+DF.


With a godfather and RB leaving us alive as lynch bait is pretty risky but also high reward. You continue to RB cop and hope rayn doesn't go god mode. There's literally no fucking reason for us to double fake claim with 9 people left in the game. There's no reason for rayn to fake claim when he did because Eden was up for lynch and rayn/myself (in your theory) definitely could've gotten Eden lynched over anyone else.

Also, I see a lot of people commenting about how WEIRD the game is. Go find scum and stop lamenting over a challenging mafia game


That would be an extremely risky play since they could easily get checked / blocked during the 3 following nights. In fact I'd say it would be a wonder if they didn't.... I guess if they're really desperate they might try that, but then we should win through the roles.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 13:50 GMT
#2735
AFK for a couple of hours - I'll be back before resolution
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2017 13:52 GMT
#2736
If we lynch town tomorrow then it's LYLO the next day.

The only thing besides DF's alignment i am 100% sure about is that Xatalos is not mafia because there was no roleblock on me last night. Damdred wasn't really around either so i have to look at his interactions with Eden. But there is no way Xatalos does not roleblock me on N2, just no way.

So first things first.

Now that the other game is over i can actually talk about this. I played another game which i was alive for 33 days. In those 792 hours my vote was on a townie for a total times of one, for exactly 1 hour and 15 minutes, because i got tilted at Rels for suggesting i would make the dumbest night kill i have ever seen. For 32 days i tried to convince the town to lynch one of the most obvious mafias i have ever seen in any game i have played. Guess who was the only townie who got lynched that game? For being wrong on Hapa's alignment for 3 days when he afk'd and i had no time to interact with him and then someone just hammered him with almost 10 days left in the phase... And even when i was wrong i was right because i was pushing the other fucking mafia. Now that is not why i get mad irl. I get mad when even after all that there are completely illogical and straight out stupid people who cannot understand any sort or logic at all and tell me how i should play mafia. I had literally three scumreads in that game and all of them were mafia, even when i didn't think Hapa is mafia i couldn't tell who the third mafia is.

So yeah, that was the 8th time i have gotten lynched as town. Out of those 8 times in 5 occasions i have only called out mafia/SK .At least almost - in that one dumb game i afk'd for 24 hrs for valentines day and came back with like 100 votes on me "bcz rayn never afks" and called out 7 people of which there was 5/5 were mafia and one SK. But no, "we are not reading your posts you are mafia bcz rayn never afks". So this is going to be most likely my last game of mafia, i have now tried like three times and it always ends up in the same way in like at most 10 games.

On top of that i have had a terrible flu for a week and i have slept like 1hr max/night and at some random times during the day when i am not working. So i am sorry, especially for Calix for my words. I am also sorry for my completely retarded night 1. I for some dumb fucking retarded reason thought that
(1) i should not jail ritoky after all because:
- ritoky is either right and Eden is scum (40%) and i always lynch Eden if he dies
- if ritoky is wrong he is probably mafia because that post looked like "polished" and too many words for saying simple things (40% -- now this would be higher but i know i am almost always wrong on ritoky's alignment early on in the game), he could be sending in the night kill if this is the case
- ritoky is wrong and is town, in which case we figure that out on D2

Now if i jail ritoky and there is a no-kill, i don't know if he is town or mafia. I then made the retardation vol 2.
Let's jail Xatalos! Because if Xatalos is mafia he would possibly send the kill as he is not being scumread (retarded conclusion). If Xatalos is somehow town and mafia is in a good position (aka if ritoky and Eden are both town), mafia can shoot Xatalos to frame me (now this is even semi-reasonable).

The fucking idiotic thing i realized RIGHT after i saw the flip is that if there is a no-kill it leaves me in the same fucking position than it does with me jailing ritoky. Except for worse. So i am so so so sorry for that ritoky. I played like a fucking dumbass who has played like -4 games of mafia.

I claimed when i did because i am pretty sure my mental state couldn't handle D2 otherwise. Thankfully Adam joined the game and saved me. I don't blame anyone for scumreading me and i don't think anyone is scum for scumreading me, and no Xatalos, i am smart enough to realize - regardless of my condition - that you are not mafia JUST BECAUSE you scumread me.

I jailed darthfoley last night because i thought there is a high chance he's scum and if he's scum he will most likely do the kill. The problem is i fell asleep at the deadline (i honestly don't even remember i put my vote back on Xatalos at the EoD 2) because i was a fucking zombie and didn't actually send in my jail until at some hour when i woke up during the night. But that was a good thing because now i can be sure about Xatalos' alignment.

Darthfoley. I sent in my jail at the exact deadline this time. I did not jail Tumble because i thought Onegu was flipping mafia and if that happens Tumblewood is very very very likely to be mafia. So basically the jail on him doesn't do anything (and if we are wrong on Onegu that is actually quite a terrible jail target - especially with his posting now). I am not going to change my target regardless and i am not going to imply who it is, but please do not check Xatalos. There is no way Xatalos does not roleblock a claimed jailkeeper in a setup like this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2017 14:03 GMT
#2737
I don't think Eden's vote on Damdred actually makes Damdred anything.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 25 2017 14:05 GMT
#2738
Rayn I think 3/4 the player list wouldn't block the jk though.

Like it just doesn't make any sense not to.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 25 2017 14:08 GMT
#2739
And also after hailing xata why did you push him so hard d2 when you knew he was at least not the kp carrier was there not a better target in that situation, Like statistically he was a better shot at not being mafia than otherwise.

And you say that if ritoky dies than always kill Eden so why the change in that rational d2?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2017 14:15 GMT
#2740
On March 22 2017 06:36 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
cop does not get shot when there is a claimed jk who is also named rayn


Say calix and xata are town. What's the point in shooting rayn?

I always get back to this post and wonder "what the hell?"
Because i can only see that Damdred knows Eden is going to flip goon, otherwise this doesn't make any sense to me.
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