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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 11 2017 17:40 GMT
#1241
On January 12 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:27 Calix wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:19 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:17 Calix wrote:
I'm here but not feeling very well. Tried to filter-dive earlier but nothing will sink in -.-


Hi calix, what do you think of squishy just as a knee jerk? or what I posted about him etc?

(i've sort of missed you btw)


Thanks, I didn't totally hate playing with you in the past either <3

I don't agree with most of your squishy reasons because they could be explained by him being new/ not knowing how people play here. Using strange logic is NAI, questioning why someone votes for a scum-read is NAI and I don't think his Onegu read by itself means a lot.

Your point about him following thread sentiment is something I think holds true but you buried that among a lot of fluff points.

I would like to hear your ME bad-town reason because he's one of my stronger scum-reads atm. His posts don't have a clear thought process and he admits to wanting to hide information with his vote which I don't see town motive for at all and nobody has given one.

Can you explain your jump from Onegu maybe scum to Onegu prolly town? I don't have strong feelings on him - he just pops in, fires out some posts and then fucks off again and none of those posts have strong town or scum motivations imo.



Yeah its a bit fluffy tbh, his grack vote though is bad vivax saw it first so i wont' claim the idea. I think hes a decent scum lean though.

As for ME its so horrible, he asked the host in thread if people who die do the thread know who killed them etc. Its horrible reasoning but if he was scum he would just ask in his qt instead of hte thread more than likely or his scum coach would tel him. Totally horrible reasoning though, besides that he has a few scum signals though

I remembered something about onegu, the more useful onegu is early in the game the more likely he is scum really. Its difficult to pinpoint his alignment though later in the game hes easier to read if you can get him to put work in. But its more a gut feeling with how hes approaching the game and not really caring.


His EOD was questionable for sure with the Boston/ Grack thing.

Yeah you're right, that is horrible, but that is something I briefly considered when I saw that post before thinking about it.

I was hoping for something a little more substantial but it's a bit reassuring that even someone who's played with him before is saying he's hard to read.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 11 2017 17:42 GMT
#1242
On January 12 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:35 Calix wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:23 ika42 wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:10 Damdred wrote:
I saw someone mention silver earlier as scum (I think) Why exactly? I read his filter and theres some really good things in their that I coudl see coming from town more than scum.

Reactions to whats going on in the thread
Reads accurate to what hes been talking about
Actual progression on the reads, good pressure to his scum reads

I really liked his filter honestly. Definatly going in the town pile today. I kind of want to put onegu in that pile as well


silverwolf is female fyi


Whops well she ^_-

what do you think of silver?


lmao

How did you not figure out the answer from SW's filter?


I always call everyone he/him i still call gb a she hehe


I meant the answer to "what do you think of SW?" since the way SW/ ika read each other is the most explained thing in the chat, lol.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 11 2017 17:42 GMT
#1243
On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Scum list:

Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.

His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.

I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.


+ Show Spoiler +
While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.

Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.

I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though


still reading filters atm any questions i'm around


I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it.

Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 11 2017 17:43 GMT
#1244
On January 12 2017 02:42 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:35 Calix wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:23 ika42 wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:10 Damdred wrote:
I saw someone mention silver earlier as scum (I think) Why exactly? I read his filter and theres some really good things in their that I coudl see coming from town more than scum.

Reactions to whats going on in the thread
Reads accurate to what hes been talking about
Actual progression on the reads, good pressure to his scum reads

I really liked his filter honestly. Definatly going in the town pile today. I kind of want to put onegu in that pile as well


silverwolf is female fyi


Whops well she ^_-

what do you think of silver?


lmao

How did you not figure out the answer from SW's filter?


I always call everyone he/him i still call gb a she hehe


I meant the answer to "what do you think of SW?" since the way SW/ ika read each other is the most explained thing in the chat, lol.


oh well I forgot and just haven't read Ika yet tbh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 11 2017 17:44 GMT
#1245
On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Scum list:

Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.

His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.

I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.


+ Show Spoiler +
While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.

Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.

I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though


still reading filters atm any questions i'm around


I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it.

Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.


Ok then what are your reads that you believe atm? With any certainty
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 11 2017 17:47 GMT
#1246
On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Scum list:

Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.

His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.

I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.


+ Show Spoiler +
While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.

Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.

I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though


still reading filters atm any questions i'm around


I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it.

Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.


Would it not make sense to try pushing your KSC read to see if you could find something more substantial?

You keep repeating the quality > quantity mantra and it's starting to ping me since you say that more than you actually do that.

If you think that doing nothing (especially during D2) is suspicious then did anyone else strike you as trying to 'skate by' or what?
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 11 2017 17:58 GMT
#1247
On January 12 2017 02:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Scum list:

Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.

His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.

I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.


+ Show Spoiler +
While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.

Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.

I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though


still reading filters atm any questions i'm around


I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it.

Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.


Ok then what are your reads that you believe atm? With any certainty


1gu because of my prior points.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 11 2017 17:59 GMT
#1248
On January 12 2017 02:43 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:42 Calix wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:35 Calix wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:23 ika42 wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:10 Damdred wrote:
I saw someone mention silver earlier as scum (I think) Why exactly? I read his filter and theres some really good things in their that I coudl see coming from town more than scum.

Reactions to whats going on in the thread
Reads accurate to what hes been talking about
Actual progression on the reads, good pressure to his scum reads

I really liked his filter honestly. Definatly going in the town pile today. I kind of want to put onegu in that pile as well


silverwolf is female fyi


Whops well she ^_-

what do you think of silver?


lmao

How did you not figure out the answer from SW's filter?


I always call everyone he/him i still call gb a she hehe


I meant the answer to "what do you think of SW?" since the way SW/ ika read each other is the most explained thing in the chat, lol.


oh well I forgot and just haven't read Ika yet tbh


It's weird that of all the things you asked ika about it's SW since that's something that everyone knows and ika has talked about a lot and SW is a town-read to you. Your priorities are whack there is what I am saying.

I'm not sure how you're catching up or if you're just filter-diving but if you're reading the thread chronologically then I don't see how that slipped you by.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 11 2017 17:59 GMT
#1249
On January 12 2017 02:58 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:44 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Scum list:

Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.

His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.

I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.


+ Show Spoiler +
While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.

Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.

I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though


still reading filters atm any questions i'm around


I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it.

Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.


Ok then what are your reads that you believe atm? With any certainty


1gu because of my prior points.


That's your only read? lol
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 11 2017 17:59 GMT
#1250
On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Scum list:

Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.

His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.

I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.


+ Show Spoiler +
While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.

Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.

I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though


still reading filters atm any questions i'm around


I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it.

Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.


Why did you have this reaction to Grack's play (basically stubbornness, right?) when ika and SW were basically doing the same thing. Ika was also very standoffish with Vivax later in the day, like did that "really progress the thread?" Why were/are you drawing different conclusions on them?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 11 2017 17:59 GMT
#1251
On January 12 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:23 ika42 wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:10 Damdred wrote:
I saw someone mention silver earlier as scum (I think) Why exactly? I read his filter and theres some really good things in their that I coudl see coming from town more than scum.

Reactions to whats going on in the thread
Reads accurate to what hes been talking about
Actual progression on the reads, good pressure to his scum reads

I really liked his filter honestly. Definatly going in the town pile today. I kind of want to put onegu in that pile as well


silverwolf is female fyi


Whops well she ^_-

what do you think of silver?


ill wait till you read the iso

if you need to know now its town though
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 11 2017 18:00 GMT
#1252
On January 12 2017 02:59 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:43 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:42 Calix wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:35 Calix wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:23 ika42 wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:10 Damdred wrote:
I saw someone mention silver earlier as scum (I think) Why exactly? I read his filter and theres some really good things in their that I coudl see coming from town more than scum.

Reactions to whats going on in the thread
Reads accurate to what hes been talking about
Actual progression on the reads, good pressure to his scum reads

I really liked his filter honestly. Definatly going in the town pile today. I kind of want to put onegu in that pile as well


silverwolf is female fyi


Whops well she ^_-

what do you think of silver?


lmao

How did you not figure out the answer from SW's filter?


I always call everyone he/him i still call gb a she hehe


I meant the answer to "what do you think of SW?" since the way SW/ ika read each other is the most explained thing in the chat, lol.


oh well I forgot and just haven't read Ika yet tbh


It's weird that of all the things you asked ika about it's SW since that's something that everyone knows and ika has talked about a lot and SW is a town-read to you. Your priorities are whack there is what I am saying.

I'm not sure how you're catching up or if you're just filter-diving but if you're reading the thread chronologically then I don't see how that slipped you by.


Just filter diving atm, my priorities just randomly select people and read them until i'm done.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 11 2017 18:01 GMT
#1253
On January 12 2017 02:58 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:44 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Scum list:

Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.

His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.

I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.


+ Show Spoiler +
While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.

Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.

I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though


still reading filters atm any questions i'm around


I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it.

Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.


Ok then what are your reads that you believe atm? With any certainty


1gu because of my prior points.


No town reads or other scum reads?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 11 2017 18:01 GMT
#1254
On January 12 2017 02:59 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Scum list:

Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.

His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.

I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.


+ Show Spoiler +
While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.

Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.

I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though


still reading filters atm any questions i'm around


I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it.

Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.


Why did you have this reaction to Grack's play (basically stubbornness, right?) when ika and SW were basically doing the same thing. Ika was also very standoffish with Vivax later in the day, like did that "really progress the thread?" Why were/are you drawing different conclusions on them?


I sort of like this post its really natural and feels right.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 11 2017 18:03 GMT
#1255
On January 12 2017 02:47 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Scum list:

Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.

His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.

I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.


+ Show Spoiler +
While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.

Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.

I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though


still reading filters atm any questions i'm around


I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it.

Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.


Would it not make sense to try pushing your KSC read to see if you could find something more substantial?

You keep repeating the quality > quantity mantra and it's starting to ping me since you say that more than you actually do that.

If you think that doing nothing (especially during D2) is suspicious then did anyone else strike you as trying to 'skate by' or what?


My KSC read was not good. I don't like it, there is a back up and using KSC's trolly idaf so much that I don't vote against the back up is a stretch.

With the quality vs quantity, I think I am personally. I try not to make pointless one liners if I am not going to have too much time.

I made a case against 1gu and he ignored it. His first post D2 is "is btdt dead yet?"

Anyway first day of classes, I have to find my building catch up with everyone soon.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 11 2017 18:08 GMT
#1256
On January 12 2017 03:03 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:47 Calix wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Scum list:

Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.

His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.

I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.


+ Show Spoiler +
While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.

Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.

I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though


still reading filters atm any questions i'm around


I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it.

Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.


Would it not make sense to try pushing your KSC read to see if you could find something more substantial?

You keep repeating the quality > quantity mantra and it's starting to ping me since you say that more than you actually do that.

If you think that doing nothing (especially during D2) is suspicious then did anyone else strike you as trying to 'skate by' or what?


My KSC read was not good. I don't like it, there is a back up and using KSC's trolly idaf so much that I don't vote against the back up is a stretch.

With the quality vs quantity, I think I am personally. I try not to make pointless one liners if I am not going to have too much time.

I made a case against 1gu and he ignored it. His first post D2 is "is btdt dead yet?"

Anyway first day of classes, I have to find my building catch up with everyone soon.


What do you mean with 'backup'?

I wasn't asking you to reiterate. I was saying that you've already told me this half a dozen times before.

Do you think outright ignoring a case is more likely to come from town or scum? You state things but do not conclude much.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 11 2017 18:11 GMT
#1257
squishy is looking worse atm with every post meh.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 11 2017 22:01 GMT
#1258
B0ston, what do you make of squishy and KSC/Damdred?
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Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 11 2017 22:09 GMT
#1259
On January 12 2017 03:03 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:47 Calix wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Scum list:

Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.

His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.

I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.


+ Show Spoiler +
While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.

Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.

I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though


still reading filters atm any questions i'm around


I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it.

Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.


Would it not make sense to try pushing your KSC read to see if you could find something more substantial?

You keep repeating the quality > quantity mantra and it's starting to ping me since you say that more than you actually do that.

If you think that doing nothing (especially during D2) is suspicious then did anyone else strike you as trying to 'skate by' or what?


My KSC read was not good. I don't like it, there is a back up and using KSC's trolly idaf so much that I don't vote against the back up is a stretch.

With the quality vs quantity, I think I am personally. I try not to make pointless one liners if I am not going to have too much time.

I made a case against 1gu and he ignored it. His first post D2 is "is btdt dead yet?"

Anyway first day of classes, I have to find my building catch up with everyone soon.


edit by way of post:

Holy shit I did not notice how fucking bad that was.

I mean KSC was very trolly and had a idaf mentality. He had such a idaf mentality he did not vote. I feel like it is a stretch to vote for the "backup" (Damdred) because of KSC's actions alone. I am giving Damdred a null with tiny scum lean, rather than judging him entirely off KSC's play.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 11 2017 22:21 GMT
#1260
On January 12 2017 03:01 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 02:58 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:44 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Scum list:

Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much.

His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway.

I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow.


+ Show Spoiler +
While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.

Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.

I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though


still reading filters atm any questions i'm around


I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it.

Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read.


Ok then what are your reads that you believe atm? With any certainty


1gu because of my prior points.


No town reads or other scum reads?


My townie reads are: SW, Ika, Calix, and ofc our sick play VIG Kmatt.

scum: onegu, DF, ME
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