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I love you but I have copyrighted it. The media hates me. I have copyrighted it vote me wow is that a Haiku | ||
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But its xmas. Expect me to play starting 27/28 only. | ||
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forgot about this game, have my gf here :< will catch up tomorrow. voting tictock because I have to vote | ||
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Check my last town game and check my activity level there. I can and will contribute for town in the exact same way if you give me the chance to do so. There's no way I will catch up in the like what 30 minutes or so we have until deadline. Tictock, the whole reason behind you voting me is that my vote was randomly cast on you.I checked if there was a main wagon, there wasn't, so I voted randomly. More important even: as there seemingly aren't any clear wagons and town feels confident in lynching into afk/lurky players, I fear that mafia is currently in the driving seat of this game. Which leads my gut to Koshi who went under the radar pretty much ALWAYS when town was on the wrong track. I correctly read him as scum once already so I guess it's worth something. Koshi has 1 filter, compared to his last town game of D1 that's horrendous. Also note Time Traveler's vote on me and keep a close look on ANYONE that voted me early as I am right now a very low hanging fruit for mafia and lazy town alike. | ||
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Thing about disfo is that from what I can see, he only comments on stuff. "I like that", "I don't like that" and so on and he's not taking any actions on his own, being lazy. Seems to be willing to go after Grackaroni but rather discusses about me? Hmm | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:24 ExO_ wrote: you have 2 posts in this game, that you confirmed in to. You promising to be active now doesn't really convince me you will be. Why are you just coming out and voting now that its been mentioned you need 3 posts? Because I went to teamliquid.net to see if I'm going to get lynched and actually care about this game? | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:26 beentheredonethat wrote: Because I went to teamliquid.net to see if I'm going to get lynched and actually care about this game? I mean it's not like there's a 100% scum motivation in avoiding a modkill/replacement/whatever. I guess I could also avoid a replacement by simply saying "uhhh I'm pretending to be AFK all of Day1 my fellow scum friends and I will not live up to the activity requirement so I screw you guys over" It could also be that I genuinely forgot I confirmed this game because Christmas and girlfriend but yeah that's just a theory right? | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:26 Time Traveler wrote: Yeah, I'm unvoting BtDt. I kinda random voted him because it was mandatory and I didn't have anyone clear in mind. And I still do not who to vote. Hum. You voted me without explanation. "Random" as you say. That means you didn't have a real clue who to vote on. Then, you unvote as soon as I drop one post and say "uhhh I still dunno". That's not townie | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:45 Time Traveler wrote: We're totally not lynching Ex_O. There are much better options. But you said you do not know who to lynch. What are the better options then if it's not me? | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:31 Tictock wrote: Ok I think I am back to wanting to lynch Dis and maybe Traveler. I partially started to push BtDt just to see who jumped aboard and both of them did so without a second thought. I'm not sure about LS, he could be scum, but I think he gets credit for pointing out a BtDt lynch gives next to no info. I'm waffling a bit ATM deciding who I most want to lynch, kinda wanting to just go back to Dis. That's actually a good idea and I like that. I wondered why you pushed me especially since it felt like you're doing it only because I voted you. I would lynch Traveler over disfo but I'm with ExO in terms of "he's new". Also I haven't read the game so I probably should just sheep someone and stfu :/ but not that's boring. | ||
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not sure what that is worth but it's something to note | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:42 disformation wrote: man. do I really want to lynch Koshi D1? Yes. I'm confident he'll flip scum. | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:43 Time Traveler wrote: BtDt, be honest, you just want to lynch me because I voted you without saying anything and caused all this mess by accident. And now you're like "OMG. THIS GUY ALMOST GOT ME KILLED. #DOWNWITHHIM No. 1. I don't want to lynch you as I have voted Koshi over you 2. I think you're new and that is why you're not really pushing anyone 3. I am really interested in your scum reads as one one hand, you said you don't know who to lynch, on the other hand you said something like "there are way better lynches than ExO_" | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:50 disformation wrote: yo guys if you want to ml me, please do so D1, cause I dont think ill have much fun with you guys the next days. You're not even being a wagon Oo Let's make you a wagon. ##vote disformation | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:52 disformation wrote: ##unvote ##vote: disformation | ||
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That's nuts. Also whatever disfo's doing there it's plain bullshit ##vote Koshi | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:50 Grackaroni wrote: Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol. On December 29 2016 08:29 Grackaroni wrote: I honestly think LS is the better lynch. But obviously I'm willing to switch to Koshi. So Grackaroni is lying about his motivations. | ||
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also grack you're fine with a koshi train and not even trying to make the LS train happen although you'd rather have lynched him? great job disformation lynching koshi although being wishywashy as fuck and even being a crybaby that votes himself wow | ||
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On December 29 2016 09:17 disformation wrote: also: town is pretty much fucked. =D Second time you're adding a positive smiley face to a bad thing. | ||
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On December 29 2016 09:18 darthfoley wrote: You did a great job of subverting your lynch lol Point taken. Can you now not disregard my valid points? Thank you. | ||
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On December 29 2016 09:22 darthfoley wrote: I have regarded them. I actually agree with both your points of grack and disformation. Disformation was especially WTF for me. Who are you singling out with your first post? TimeTraveler? Voting me: Time Traveler, Tictock, disformation, ExO_ disfo's flailing would cover up his shit wagon jump on me as well as his shit wagon jump on koshi. Time Traveler seemed to be confident in voting me, then Koshi, and all he had to say was "I dunno who to vote for" and he ended up on, lol, Superbia. He even disappeared from thread which is also bothering me. So I'd say disformation > Time Traveler, then I need to read ExO and see why apparently everyone is townreading him. Tictock tbh no idea, I liked his reaction to my initial random vote though. | ||
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On December 29 2016 09:32 disformation wrote: Unfortunately Shape will not replace me out of the game for that reason. My trouble with you is that yes, you can do wrong things. It's perfectly fine to fuck up, town does this on a daily basis. but I absolutely hate the way you're playing right now as it is very undecided and soft. I'd love if you'd have a strong opinion on something, if you'd stop flailing and instead decisively push someone or something. You're always like "oh that could be a thing but maybe it's not" which tbh contributes nothing to the game. It only creates confusion and actually helps scum a lot. I don't even think you're scum in that situation but I think your play really helps scum in an abysmal D1. If you don't step up I'm perfectly fine in lynching you D2. | ||
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Medicine Bottle “P” Medicine Bottle “S” Medicine Bottle “X” in that very order | ||
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1. Blames btdt for being inactive all day 2. Does not want to lynch btdt because "I only wanted to test reactions and see who jumps on that lynch" 3. Votes outside of Koshi, thus making his vote irrelevant 4. Wants to lynch btdt again What I don't get is 2 vs. 4. I can fully understand #2, and I can fully understand #4. I'd probably also lynch myself in the current situation. But how can this go together? #2 implies that Tictock thinks I am town. Then, Koshi gets lynched without any counter wagon to it, and suddenly, Tictock thinks I am scum. This is really weird. Also, Tictock pretty much ignores the disformation happenings (like, voting himself, voting Koshi over Grack, and so on). If disformation flips scum anytime soon, Tictock will do so very likely, too, given that he went after me over disfo. To be honest, Tictock's explanation on why he voted me could also be a subtle TMI of "I know he's town, so I pretend to fish for information, I'm not really voting him because I know he is not scum". | ||
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disformation then again claims to have a bad scum game (correct me if I'm wrong) and what he's doing right now is either a bad town game or a bad scum game so I'm perfectly fine in lynching him. Grackaroni's EoD was a joke. | ||
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my town circle would be exo/gb/me so far. | ||
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On December 29 2016 21:39 disformation wrote: btdt confirmed not caring for my alignment. i kinda hope he is just scum trying to tilt/ml me. saving grace is him admitting that grack also had a horrible eod. wait, so you're being called out on "hey you're playing like shit" and your reaction is to scumread the person who's calling you out? You're a good lynch disfo because as I said earlier, you're either amazingly bad town or amazingly obvious scum. | ||
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you clearly scumread me, having found a "sick tmi". so first of all - your level of spotted tmi is the same as my level of spotted tmi about tictock. and you're capable of knowing that so you should be very clear about what you are trying to achieve with that. You scumreading me feels a lot like "im pissed towards btdt so I scumread him" which is simpy a bad way of doing things. Instead, calm down a bit and start looking for actual reasons why I could be scum, or, even better, why I could be town, because I am town. Suprise, surprise. You're one of the most active players in D1 and yet town has a boiling mislynch in the end without any counter wagons. That doesn't change the fact that Koshi was a very good lynch IMHO. Given Koshi's level of mafia play and the lack of play he showed for D1. Good thing I have been granted a power role and will be able to use my ability. | ||
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disfo/tictock/chez/exO? | ||
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Forgot about grack :O there's that storyline where Grack is voting Koshi over his scum read and not even trying to kill LS. LS also disappeared or something? | ||
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On December 29 2016 21:34 disformation wrote: thats a very bad reason and you know it. That's not a bad reason and you should know it Oo | ||
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On December 29 2016 23:08 disformation wrote: and yes im pissed towards btdt so I scumread him On December 29 2016 23:08 disformation wrote: if i have a vig shot im still shooting grack over btdt Okay. Get out of the thread. Return later when you calmed down. Because if you don't, you're helping scum. Stop one-lining. Instead, take a step back. Also, I apologize for upsetting you. It was not my intention to so and I was (and partially am) pissed about the way you approached the game because if you're town, it's helping scum and if you're scum, you're frustrating af to play against. | ||
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On January 04 2017 01:17 disformation wrote: hf isnt unfriendly hes direct. calix and nu are only asshats to each other. I have hosted games where Holyflare literally said "You moron" and NU was warned for hostile behaviour towards other players. You have observed at least one of these games. | ||
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On December 29 2016 08:35 ExO_ wrote: Can we stop having votes all over the place? Either vote Koshi or tell me why we should be voting your target instead Especially since the Koshi wagon seemed to have its origin at ExO_ although I felt like I was one of the initiators, too. He's the most townread person at that point - so why would he lead an uncontested mislynch if he was scum? I don't think that a scum!ExO_ would do this but my paranoia is still tingling. Gnahh. Really curious about what he's going to make of the "Grack is looking bad now" thing from EoD1. That's important because he said before the flip that Grackaroni is not at all a good target to lynch due to 8 pages. | ||
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On December 27 2016 20:23 Time Traveler wrote: How is this possible? Weren't we supposed to know when Balance Bills are happening? Plus they can only happen at the end of phases. Why is he asking that when only shortly before, this happened: + Show Spoiler [this] + On December 27 2016 10:28 Time Traveler wrote: I see. I wonder if I could get punished for not being 100% aware of the Mechanics  That's like the try-hardest (most try-hard?) dumbtell if I've ever seen a dumbtell. I don't think I'm buying this "I'm so new" shit. Also, I'm still waiting for the follow-up on my question regarding On December 28 2016 10:45 Time Traveler wrote: We're totally not lynching Ex_O. There are much better options. Because I don't know the better options he's talking about. BUT apparently, I am one: On December 29 2016 07:40 Time Traveler wrote: Well, then I can say that I voted BtDt because #yolo. Or, not: On December 29 2016 08:26 Time Traveler wrote: Yeah, I'm unvoting BtDt. I kinda random voted him because it was mandatory and I didn't have anyone clear in mind. And I still do not who to vote. Hum. There's nothing in Time Traveler's filter that contributes to the game. Like, really nothing. No reads, no follow-ups on any questions, he's not deducing anything from whatever he's asking, he just appears to be there every now and then - full stop, that's it. Maybe I ate the whole "He's new" thing from ExO EoD1 too early. | ||
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On January 04 2017 04:02 disformation wrote: ExO_ this game: scum!ExO_ dota 2 game: and much more. @LS can I get your stamp of Meta approval this time? That's a pretty great catch. Makes my paranoia penis harder - by a lot. | ||
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Let me try. D1 was driven by scum or by wrong-guessing town. No counter wagon to Koshi. Given that Koshi is a heavy weight player on both alignments, I assume that scum just laid back and was fairly okay with that lynch. Question is if scum pushed the Koshi lynch (which would point towards exo) or if the lynch just happened with scum maybe being the hammering votes (pointing towards tictock/df?) | ||
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One if not more between them should be scum here. | ||
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Leaves Tictock. I think there were some inconsistencies in Tictock voting Koshi over LS (?) but I am on mobile and cannot double check right now. Still, I think TT has a decent chance of being scum. Also, he scumread me basically for being around and voting him. :/ | ||
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On January 04 2017 21:44 disformation wrote: TT had his vote on LS. There was someone voting Koshi although he was pushing someone else. Grack? | ||
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On January 04 2017 21:46 disformation wrote: Erm. You know chez has a nuke headed towards him, right? Hes unreadable so I dont care. Hes not contributing. Basically the same I was mad about you, only worse as he's completely unreadable and useless. | ||
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Skimming superbia filter, could this be darth TMI defending koshi and superbia spotting this? Like, superbia pressurung darth, gets killed? | ||
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On January 04 2017 21:55 disformation wrote: Just to make clear cause I am not 100% sure how to read this: You are saying you don't care about the nuke headed towards Chez? That is correct | ||
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On January 04 2017 21:56 disformation wrote: Erm? Lynching Chez makes no sense, unless you think the nuke is fake or will be shot down. Both for which there is 0 evidence. Thats correct, too. So scratch chez from that list. That list is to be read as "im fine with them being removed from the game" and I should differentiate that list from "lets lynch xx today". I think darthfoley should be lynched, hence my vote there. | ||
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On January 04 2017 22:01 beentheredonethat wrote: Thats correct, too. So scratch chez from that list. That list is to be read as "im fine with them being removed from the game" and I should differentiate that list from "lets lynch xx today". I think darthfoley should be lynched, hence my vote there. I suck at explaining. Dont lynch chez as there is a nuke - but im totally fine with the nuke potentially killing him. | ||
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Would you expect this in this game? Lel | ||
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On January 04 2017 22:36 darthfoley wrote: Just like you were fairly confident that Koshi wasn't playing town!Koshi and that we should trust your gut, right? These votes on me are stupid and are strictly because Superbia was suspicious of me. The dude literally power rolled claimed. Doesn't take a genius to kill someone like that off during the night. Besides this point, all you and disformation have cited are "bad vibes" and TMI on Koshi that apparently like 4 other people originally had. Forgive me if I don't view your votes are warranted So you believed the claim? | ||
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On January 04 2017 22:46 darthfoley wrote: ExO is coasting D2 claiming nothing but VT. GB has literally not posted Slam is still trolling TiTr hasn't posted anything useful TT's excuse is that it's "hard to get back into the game" BTDT is using the same bullshit strategy he used EoD1 to get out of being a lynch again. LS is claiming a role that could've easily been made up Yet you vote me. That's disappointing So who is scum in that list and why would you lynch them? I mean youre clearly trying to get disformation to not vote you while you add me to your list so apparently you do not care about me voting you. Why is that? | ||
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Yes, I was wrong on Koshi. So what, last game ai was fully right. Happens. | ||
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On January 04 2017 22:53 darthfoley wrote: Reason being 1. I'm not letting him ride mislynch towncred any farther 2. Refuses to step his game up 3. If he's town, his pressure will be useful to town 4. If he's mafia, he should hang at the gallows This is like the most generic list ever | ||
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On January 04 2017 22:54 darthfoley wrote: You, TimeTraveler, ExO and I'll think long and hard about LS considering his PR claim. I don't see the town motivation behind revealing it so early on Are you aware that I scumreaf TiTr and am paranoid about ExO? You scumreading me doesnt make sense and I think youre just OMGUSing here. | ||
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On January 04 2017 23:01 darthfoley wrote: Gimme a sec to get out of bed and I'll show you why btdt'S filter is booty cheeks Show me the OMGUS. Im not moving my vote. Pissed off scum outside of comfort zone spotted. Thank me later, vote df. | ||
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On January 04 2017 23:04 disformation wrote: Which is why i am not 100% comfortable in lynching df just for that. Fair and square. But there's never a 100% chance. Df flipping scum is at like 70-80% imho. Rest of the candidates is at like 50. | ||
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On January 04 2017 23:30 darthfoley wrote: The House of Brown presents: The Curious Case of BTDT? So, i'll try to keep this succinct. Here are the original points I will summarize but don't need to show 1. btdt was super inactive all D1 2. mysteriously comes back when he is going to be the lynch, and only then, and gets the lynch off him WHILE successfully mislynching Koshi. Koshi He firstly explains that there is no possible way he could accurately catch up. Within the same post, he advocates for Koshi's lynch strongly, appealing to the authority of his previous reads on Koshi-- Would anyone characterize Koshi's D1 play as being in the driving seat of the game? He intentionally made himself NOT in the driving seat, and it got him lynched. The first and second sentence contradict each other; Koshi did not go under the radar D1, he was talked about by ExO, me, Grack, Superbia, etc. Really? You're confident? Within twenty minutes, BTDT went from randomly diving filters AND it being impossible for him to catch up, into confidently lynching Koshi-- not just any random player. "Don't lynch LS over Koshi-- that's nuts." Again he reroutes the lynch train onto Koshi, effectively stopping what Grack and I were trying to do (lynch LS > Koshi). Then this??? Like seriously???? + Show Spoiler + What dee fak It's one thing to be wrong about someone. Yea, that happens. It's another thing to wholeheartedly advocate for someone's death after not reading the entire game WHILE using your previous reads on him to bolster your argument + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://images.memes.com/meme/674487) I like the effort you're spending but 1st you're misrepresenting me, 2nd you're painting a btdt picture that is wrong. I will answer very detailed to your case once I get on a computer (2 hours). | ||
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We need Grack AND Tictock to confirm this. I'm not sure what to make out of the whole thing. darthfoley was under pressure then admitted the mafia alignment but claims to not be mafia aligned anymore. Let's just say for a minute that what darthfoley says is true: We surmised that Superbia would be a good kill especially if he had a blue role, wouldn't really link back to me, and I was going to claim vigi misshot. I roleblocked Superbia in case he shot/checked me and got saved. Ticktock used his sleeping bag (according to him, one time jailkeep) on Chez so disformation wouldn't get the seed that would probably let him check Grack. Grack claims to have gotten medicine X. He also claims this medicine makes him show up as mafia, but that he hasn't drank it. Not sure if I believe him regarding the utility of his medicine. If Superbia was the kill of the 3 guys AND Chez was indeed in jail - then either mafia cannot kill OR Chez was the one who carried scum KP. As I have received the armour as a protective item and did not use it yet, chances are that Chez indeed tried to deliver KP. That's a huge if though. Next up: note how Tictock comes into the thread, claims to not have read up completely but he's already down to lynching me. Funny, as darthfoley (the guy who claims to be in a QT with Tictock) cased me. With a shit case. I will now dismiss that case. | ||
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So, i'll try to keep this succinct. Here are the original points I will summarize but don't need to show 1. btdt was super inactive all D1 2. mysteriously comes back when he is going to be the lynch, and only then, and gets the lynch off him WHILE successfully mislynching Koshi. Koshi On December 29 2016 08:21 beentheredonethat wrote: Oh c'mon. Yes, I confirmed 2 days ago. Then, I had christmas dinner with gf's family, spent a nice time with her, she went home to my place with me and we continued having a nice time. Nail me on that if you feel like it and don't believe that I genuinely forgot about this game, okay. But lynching into me is the easiest thing to do for scum at this point. Check my last town game and check my activity level there. I can and will contribute for town in the exact same way if you give me the chance to do so. There's no way I will catch up in the like what 30 minutes or so we have until deadline. Tictock, the whole reason behind you voting me is that my vote was randomly cast on you.I checked if there was a main wagon, there wasn't, so I voted randomly. More important even: as there seemingly aren't any clear wagons and town feels confident in lynching into afk/lurky players, I fear that mafia is currently in the driving seat of this game. Which leads my gut to Koshi who went under the radar pretty much ALWAYS when town was on the wrong track. I correctly read him as scum once already so I guess it's worth something. Koshi has 1 filter, compared to his last town game of D1 that's horrendous. Also note Time Traveler's vote on me and keep a close look on ANYONE that voted me early as I am right now a very low hanging fruit for mafia and lazy town alike. He firstly explains that there is no possible way he could accurately catch up. Within the same post, he advocates for Koshi's lynch strongly, appealing to the authority of his previous reads on Koshi-- Yes. 1. I have not read the game as I simply forgot about it. 2. I randomly opened some filters. 3. I saw Koshi had one page of filter. Easiest scumread given that I have a pretty good grip on Koshi's meta. Would anyone characterize Koshi's D1 play as being in the driving seat of the game? He intentionally made himself NOT in the driving seat, and it got him lynched. The first and second sentence contradict each other; Koshi did not go under the radar D1, he was talked about by ExO, me, Grack, Superbia, etc. You're trying to paint a contradiction. That would require that I actually had read the game which at this point, I had not done. I had no idea that Exo, you, whoever, talked about Koshi. Also, how could you know that Koshi INTENTIONALLY did not put himself into the driver's seat? On December 29 2016 08:38 beentheredonethat wrote: 1-page-Koshi feels bad and I think he's a very good lynch. On December 29 2016 08:39 beentheredonethat wrote: ##vote Koshi On December 29 2016 08:45 beentheredonethat wrote: Yes. I'm confident he'll flip scum. Really? You're confident? Within twenty minutes, BTDT went from randomly diving filters AND it being impossible for him to catch up, into confidently lynching Koshi-- not just any random player. Of course I am confident! I have hosted three games where Koshi rolled scum as well as town. I have played with him as scum and as town. Reading his one-page filter, I felt absolutely confident that this was scum!Koshi going under the radar. Note how at this point I still hadn't caught up. I mean, what do you expect me to do? I was happy to consolidate on a player I could judge instead of wasting my vote such as others (TiTr) did ALTHOUGH they had read the game. On December 29 2016 08:54 beentheredonethat wrote: Don't lynch LS over Koshi, really. That's nuts. Also whatever disfo's doing there it's plain bullshit ##vote Koshi "Don't lynch LS over Koshi-- that's nuts." Again he reroutes the lynch train onto Koshi, effectively stopping what Grack and I were trying to do (lynch LS > Koshi). I am not rerouting here. You took that out of context - context being that someone thought about lynching LS and I actively said "don't do that". Why did I say that? Easy - Koshi was inactive and playing to his scum meta, while LS had a filter of multiple pages and felt rather townie. Again, I skimmed. You can't really scumread me for saying wrong things  .On December 29 2016 09:14 beentheredonethat wrote: okay everyone who was eager to vote me and then voted koshi instead of not-voting slam needs to explain why also grack you're fine with a koshi train and not even trying to make the LS train happen although you'd rather have lynched him? great job disformation lynching koshi although being wishywashy as fuck and even being a crybaby that votes himself wow Then this??? Like seriously???? + Show Spoiler + What dee fak Why is that a scummy reaction? I was genuinely pissed, mainly towards disformation but also pissed about myself. I had strongly argued for a Koshi lynch and I might have done way better for town then I did D1 if only I had not forgotten about this game. I tried to play the game as good as I could and I was angry about failing at it. Also, I was even more pissed about disformation as I felt like his wishywashy playstyle was detrimental for town. 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I applied a solid meta read to Koshi and if you would just put in the effort to check Koshi's past games, you'd instantly see that he was playing 100% to his scum meta of "I chime in every now and then but besides that I stay under the radar and pretend to be lazy town". + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:04 darthfoley wrote: Also if House of Brown was a legit mafia team, I would've just vigi claimed D2 like we planned. I was thinking of something spicy, like, i'm a vigilante with a 50% success shoot rate (especially as an ode to Superbia's 50/50 bet with the Hosts). This is such a worthless sentence as there's no way to ever prove that. "If I was real scum, I would play totally different from how I played all game." Like, really? | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:09 darthfoley wrote: How did you know he was going under the radar if you hadn't read through the game? Yes. 1. I have not read the game as I simply forgot about it. 2. I randomly opened some filters. 3. I saw Koshi had one page of filter. Easiest scumread given that I have a pretty good grip on Koshi's meta. | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:08 darthfoley wrote: Yes really. The plan I laid out in my Poor Man's Confession is literally better in every single way than what I did. Of course it's WIFOM, but to make your point, you have to think i'm a fucking stupid mafia. If that's your argument, have at it hoss. Actually, it's not that WIFOM, thinking about it. Because you have two people who can confirm that plan (if you discussed that plan in QT). | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:06 darthfoley wrote: Yea so naturally you should be confident in your read and lynch me! Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice, shame on me I'm actually not really down to lynching you anymore. Puzzle pieces are moving and I think you're not scum (or, if you're scum, your dedicated as fuck). Still not sold completely but we're on a good way. | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:16 darthfoley wrote: I'm also more sus of Slam because I gave him this information last night and he did not do anything about it or change his playstyle "sus" as in suspicious? | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:17 darthfoley wrote: Yea. I sent him the message because I thought and maybe still think he's vigilante Okay.. wtf. | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:23 Tictock wrote: This is part of why I want to lynch BtDt still. He seems to still not know what is happening in this game. You could maybe read my follow up post where I explain that | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:39 beentheredonethat wrote: You could maybe read my follow up post where I explain that Here: On January 04 2017 22:01 beentheredonethat wrote: Thats correct, too. So scratch chez from that list. That list is to be read as "im fine with them being removed from the game" and I should differentiate that list from "lets lynch xx today". I think darthfoley should be lynched, hence my vote there. On January 04 2017 22:02 beentheredonethat wrote: I suck at explaining. Dont lynch chez as there is a nuke - but im totally fine with the nuke potentially killing him. Or, you could continue to paint a fake picture. So maybe Tictock is the scum in the famous brown QT triangle? | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:59 disformation wrote: I dont particularly think btdt is scum. but I might need to look at him and tt. then how about you DO that instead of flailing the closer eod gets the more wishy washy you get -.- stop being polite and start playing | ||
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On January 05 2017 06:29 Grackaroni wrote: I still think ExO may be a good lynch. Between DF and Btdt I would lynch btdt mostly based off gut. I'll vouch for TT being a townie. I don't think he should ever be lynched this game. nah don't lynch darth, he's probably town. I've drawn my conclusions and I think he's town. | ||
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That means I'm pretty sure there is one scum in you guys. Which, going back to EoD1, should be Grack. At this point, ExO is either really ballsy scummer or genuinely afk. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:18 beentheredonethat wrote: ##unvote ##vote Grackaroni we need that second wagon. Reasons why I think Grack should be lynched: 1. EoD1 2. Being a member of the QT triangle (Why? Because IF all three QT members were town, it would be absolutely OP to have them have a conversation. The game would be won so easily) 3. Nothing memorable from D2. On the other hand, I don't think that's enough. ##unvote ##vote Time Traveller I'm scumreading this guy since I play this game. Let's do this. | ||
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We lynch ExO because he is not here. darthfoley, you said lynching Slam is bad because a flip wouldn't give information and a town flip would be really bad. What is different to ExO flipping town and where's the difference in ExO flipping scum? | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:22 disformation wrote: Exos entire d2 filter: (5 posts): + Show Spoiler + On January 03 2017 11:12 ExO_ wrote: I drove home last night. I really hate that the game was paused during the 3 days I was sitting around with family doing nothing. Oh well. I'm going to continue claiming VT. I'll be honest I feel like playing civ and not looking at this game too much (there's so much wtf shit going on), but I'll pipe back up either tonight or tomorrow. On January 03 2017 15:46 ExO_ wrote: Somebody please talk to me on a walkie talkie On January 03 2017 19:09 ExO_ wrote: I'd like to reiterate I am Vanilla Town. I'll actually try tomorrow, but for now please just remember that I am Vanilla Town On January 04 2017 19:31 ExO_ wrote: You can believe what you want, but I am Vanilla Town On January 04 2017 23:38 ExO_ wrote: There's really nothing I feel like talking about except I am VT Note that the first post looks a lot like his afkish excuse posts in the Dota 2 game where he was scum. Has anyone tried to talk to him via a walky talky? Wait. Wasn't there an item "Walky talky" or something? | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:24 beentheredonethat wrote: I have the armour. Thing is the armour will still get me killed because it's old and rusty. I my death at night will only be delayed by an let's say "amount" of time. What if ExO took the walky talky and all he can do is talk to whoever has a walky talky? | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:24 darthfoley wrote: Yep. I asked to talk with him using the walkie talkie and it never happened, nor did he express any interest Oh. Okay. Back to LS it is. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:26 disformation wrote: I think gb scum read exo D1. He joined my paranoia | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:26 Tictock wrote: What part of Super's case did you find most compelling? You're beating a dead horse there, just saying. Mainly, this one On December 29 2016 06:12 Superbia wrote: Specifically: 1a. Reads me mafia based on OP+activity (afaicr) 1b. Unwilling to push anything on me when we're both around. 1c. This is strengthened by his immediate response when I get smitten. 2 Lumps me together with disfo as becomin"sick on lynch day". I became OG sick near game start. This showcases that he is not familiar with my (admittedly) limited gameplay. Also I don't think his read progression on disfo has progressed but I may be wrong. Did he interact with disfo in between his list post and voting me? 3. My actual activity is not taken into account at all in the vote or read even though I have done some AI things But also: On December 29 2016 06:27 Superbia wrote: Darths entire lynchlist is pretty much policy based Because the list darth provided (also the one from D2) was just a weird list without drawn conclusions. Like, "I have an opinion, look at it, but don't nail me on it because I don't dare to actually push someone" Well he pushed me then. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:27 Tictock wrote: Just getting off work now, but won't be caught up till after I get home. It's just amazing how you didn't believe me D1 and now you're like "Oh sorry I missed 24 hours due to work". Amazing, really. Just letting you know I'm no longer the low hanging fruit. I'm running out of ideas here and I'm not feeling comfortable on anyone. I was so happy about my walky talky "finding" but apparently it was tried out already (ironically enough by the guy I scumread D2) I realize I have a townread on darthfoley, like, a real one, not a "well maaaaybe im wrong" I think darthfoley is town. following my triangle theory, lynch should be grack/tt. full circle. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:37 darthfoley wrote: There is someone called "Disciple of Brown" in our QT, saying mysterious things + Show Spoiler + what if this qt thing is just a joke+ Show Spoiler + don't worry i'm not an asshole lol "mysterious things" would be slam or chez. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:38 darthfoley wrote: It may be a host. Either way it's somehow who knows things I don't know Are you allowed to post QT content to the thread? | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:39 darthfoley wrote: We can paraphrase, but not quote directly If there was a confirmation needed that the QT is the truth and you're not the full three guys of the scum team - here it is. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:46 Grackaroni wrote: I think I would be ok with any of the following: ExO LS TimeTraveler Slam Btdt. So that's not a very good place to be. We share 2 out of 4. Wondering though, you said Slam is a bad lynch yet you are fine with an ExO lynch which in my eyes has the same result. I asked already but would you mind to explain the difference? | ||
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Given he afk'ed, he's a good lynch at this point. Note: Tictock wasted his vote on LS. He voted outside of the main wagon but didn't try to get a LS train going. Over D2, he dropped his LS stuff and half-assed tried to go after me. Having not caught up, he still seems to be after me. Wondering where his vote will end up. I really think Tictock is looking very bad here. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:53 GlowingBear wrote: He's not. But the sudden change of opinion truly makes me pause. Anyone thinks grack is Mafia? What do you think, disfo? How is he not? D1: Koshi basically absent, apparently easy mislynch target. D2: ExO basically absent, apprently easy mislynch target. That's what I mean. The plot twist here is that ExO was the one driving the Koshi lynch which is why I have headache. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:55 GlowingBear wrote: I don't know, I didn't read day2. I want to lynch Exo because I was sure he is mafia. I want to be right. But my best bet is that we should lynch time traveler By the way there's still the thing with "you killed Superbia, Chez got Jailkeeped and maybe couldn't carry KP" which I brought up earlier. We should not forget about this ESPECIALLY if he survives the nuke. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:58 darthfoley wrote: Is that directed at me? Under that circumstance, there are two mafia KPs and I would've outted my entire team for no reason How are there 2 mafia KP? I thought you killed Superbia because you were given scum roles AND jailkeeped Chez? Since there was no other kill besides Superbia my point is that Chez carried the "real" scum KP. | ||
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On January 05 2017 07:59 darthfoley wrote: I'm actually more annoyed at GB considering he started playing the game then forgot. I have him completely null atm. I would reread his filter now but the town has bigger fish to fry Why are you believing that so easily? You didn't believe me, right? | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:01 darthfoley wrote: But Superbia still died, and our mafia team did NOT have KP. So even if Chez carried KP, someone had to also carry KP onto Superbia Wait. I thought that the Superbia kill came from your QT and the Scum KP was not delivered or healed or whatever. What about this then? On January 05 2017 02:26 darthfoley wrote: The funny thing about this game, is that yes, I actually did want to kill Superbia N1. In fact, I thought I had killed him. ![[image loading]](https://m.popkey.co/2fdc61/9GA9g.gif) On January 05 2017 02:47 darthfoley wrote: [...] We surmised that Superbia would be a good kill especially if he had a blue role, wouldn't really link back to me, and I was going to claim vigi misshot. I roleblocked Superbia in case he shot/checked me and got saved. Ticktock used his sleeping bag (according to him, one time jailkeep) on Chez so disformation wouldn't get the seed that would probably let him check Grack. Grack claims to have gotten medicine X. He also claims this medicine makes him show up as mafia, but that he hasn't drank it. Not sure if I believe him regarding the utility of his medicine. So we thought this was peachy keen. I was going to claim "vigi shooting" Superbia, while the other mafia team was going to shoot town. This would allow both the other mafia team, and the town to be under the assumption that there was still only one mafia team in the game. [...] So either there were two teams of three that individually chose Superbia kill, or Grack/TT are mafia and knew of our plan, notified the other mafia team, etc. This is partially why I have been trolly and confused. I don't know in which scenario Superbia died. So yea, I wanted to kill Superbia under the assumption that I was mafia. However i'm not mafia. I cannot confirm anything else regarding Grack and TT's alignments | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:02 darthfoley wrote: Sorry, misspoke. I should've quoted "and then forgot" to show my skepticism. I'm biased I guess but I have no idea how you forget about a game of mafia AFTER you've been playing I wasn't playing D1. All I did was /confirm, via mobile, in a hurry. You believe GB but then you say you "have no idea how you forget about a game of mafia AFTER you've been playing"? Please tell me I have poor reading comprehension because the kill thing and also this is really weird right now. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:05 darthfoley wrote: All of that plotting was under the assumption that we in fact had KP; it was the thinking behind the kill. But then the SAME kill happened and we were told we weren't mafia and didn't have KP So hosts told you you have no KP, yet your target died. Is that assumption correct? | ||
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So either you were trolled and are basically confirmed town (all three of you) or you had one or two scum people in your qt. Which, funnily enough, brings me full circle to "one of you guys is scum" and since I townread darthfoley, I think we should lynch between grack and tictock. Funnily enough, second wagon is Time Traveller, which I'm fine with, too. So. What to do? | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:09 Time Traveler wrote: ![[image loading]](https://s28.postimg.org/fius0uopp/ribbon_weather.png) Why am I feeling the votes on me feel really... strange and random? Darthfoley, the guy who brought up that random mafia thing, BtDt, the guy that I'm ignoring and has been messing up with me since end of D1 and Alakaslam... which I don't remember him giving an explanation for he voting me (?) I'll see if he actually said something. Why are you ignoring me? Who should be lynched? What is the site you already played on? | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:04 darthfoley wrote: ExO: 4 TimeTraveler: 3 Alakaslam: 1 ExO, TT, and TimeTraveler have yet to vote Is ExO the kind of scummer to take the mod warning to look genuinely afk? | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:20 Grackaroni wrote: I don't think I said that Slam would be a bad lynch. I think he's a fine lynch. I wrote this post thinking that darthfoley was the one I quoted. You answered the question with the "who are your lynches" and then answered it before darth, so tired me (00.20 here, EU timezone) thought it was you. I redirected the question already to darth but he's very good at ignoring it. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:21 disformation wrote: Its a bad idea to play around with such things. He can just come in last second and vote. I don't want to play around. I want to know if anyone played with him and would judge him in a meta read to be that kind of player. Because if he is that kind of player, we should lynch him with fire. | ||
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Explain me then. And answer those: On January 05 2017 08:10 beentheredonethat wrote: Why are you ignoring me? Who should be lynched? What is the site you already played on? I feel like we should lynch TiTr over ExO. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:26 Grackaroni wrote: I said in QT that I think there's probably one scum in that group. Just wondering: disformation said that LS and I sent him a PM each. That makes it a voting pattern of 2 guys only then. Because IF LS and me indeed talked in scumQT and decided to send a PM to disformation, disformation is NOT our scum team member. Why would we jointly message him? That being said, we would be down to two people voting the same person. Which is happening fairly often. I see why it's a finding, because hey, it's a pattern, but it's absolutey NAI and disformation just confirmed this. | ||
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We have a counter-claim By all rules, we should lynch into LightningStrike here. But it's a bastard game and I can easily see this being town v town especially because of what I sent to disformation | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:36 darthfoley wrote: Apparently he "apologized" for being mean to disformation lol 1. This is not what I sent him 2. I have sent an apology to the hosts after ranting over disformation, yes. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:39 darthfoley wrote: Cuz I'm all knowing. Disformation said you sent that to him iirc Quote that. Now. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:40 disformation wrote: btdt reading my posts would help: but not a topic for now What the fuck | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:42 disformation wrote: like btdt confirmed not reading the thread? Fuck it I completely missed that | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:42 Tictock wrote: This sounds about right. Why am I the only one who wants to murder BtDt? do whatever the fuck you want I honestly do not care | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:45 Grackaroni wrote: Btdt why didn't you see the post about Chezinu getting nuked? It's starting to seem like a pattern of you just coming in at the end of the day and trying to bury someone. I am posting consistently since 10 hours. I'm not even under pressure yet I am playing my heart out. What the fuck is wrong with you. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:47 darthfoley wrote: I mean you could just tell the thread what you PMd if you're that mad. For all we know you could be lying about your PMs That's the point. There's a reason why I said that I would reveal that D3. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:49 Tictock wrote: Honestly if GB is telling the truth then that removed Darth Grack (Though to be honest I'm super behind reading out buddy QT, Grack fills that shit up with his personal poetry) Dis GB LS Chez (kus he's being Nuked) Slam (kus I'm soft) For my lynch pool Which I think leaves me with exactly Exo Traveler BtDt Yep. There's one out of each group you mentioned. From buddy QT: You. From Dis/GB/LS: whoever is lying between GB/LS. From the rest: Traveler. | ||
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On January 05 2017 08:50 beentheredonethat wrote: Yep. There's one out of each group you mentioned. From buddy QT: You. From Dis/GB/LS: whoever is lying between GB/LS. From the rest: Traveler. So fucking vote Traveler with me if you dare to lynch your scum teammate ffs | ||
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On January 05 2017 12:56 darthfoley wrote: BtDt has claimed that he sent one PM to the hosts to apologize for his behavior to disformation??? and another one to disformation. Kinda seemed like covering his own ass at the time by blaming hosts. If you have a chance, go back through my filter at look at my case on BtDt, TT. Let me know what you think. It's probably on my 12-14th page It is the truth. Hosts fucked me over and this is the last time I played in a bastard game. | ||
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On January 08 2017 03:08 disformation wrote: Bit sad no one wants to chill on a hipster wagon with mvp disfo for a bit. will switch to ls again like an hour b4 deadline. still no sign of btdt makes me sad though. Shhh I'm here. | ||
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I am a two shot cop. I have a "Magnifying Glass" which lets me zoom in on people and lets me know the alignment according to the item's description. I had this item from the very beginning. The night Superbia died, I checked disformation. I was pretty pissed about him because he felt so un-contributing that I chose to target him, hoping to be able to ride a copclaim to a disformation lynch D2. But my magnifying glass said that there's a green under it. Note how it said "green", I think I'm not allowed to quote the heavily themed host PM but I think I can write around it. It basically was a description of the person under the magnifying glass, and it said the person would have a green shirt. As this was the only color implication (basically, it was the description of a bavarian man in lederhosn) I took it as a town alignment. Given that, I sent my paper plane to disformation as I thought that I am under suspcicion for my late game entry anyways and hoped he would be rational enough to not push me. I knew he was town so I felt confident. Given that I did not die in this night, I think it's pretty clear that disformation indeed is town (although there's like a 10% chance or so that the "green shirt" did not imply a town check). I was amazingly mad when I saw that disfo claimed to have received a PM that I sent to the hosts origginally, stating that I am sorry for how I treated him EoD1. Fun thing is that while disfo apparently made that up, I indeed sent a PM to Shapelog, saying that I felt like I went too far in my disformation rage and got way too much on a personal level, and Shapelog basically offered me to remind me postgame to apologize to disformation. I absolutely hated and still hate that Tictock is not caught up at all yet chimes in every now and then to put shade on me without having any clue of how the game is going. I see myself as one of the main game drivers D2, and I felt like I put up solid points about Time Traveler and I was raging af when I realized that ExO was town. I have not submitted my second check in the night phase. I was absolutely pissed at the hosts for seemingly exchanging the PMs, thus I felt like I got fucked over and chose to not come back to play this game. However, I got PM'ed by kitaman in the meantime, asking me to play Newbie Mafia as I have confirmed there. So I came back to TL, and started reading this game, and I realized that disformation, well, lied about what I sent to him. I still have my second check. I need to be protected in the following night I guess. Disformation is confirmed town. My scumreads are Time Traveler and TicTock. I like the LS stuff. He even sent me a paper plane saying that he'd provide the famous bandages to me but I have not received any bandages. I don't know when or if I am going to receive them. Grackaroni needs to explain why he thought I'd be dead. Yes, I had the rusty armour, correct, but I used it already. By the way this could mean that I was attacked and will flip at the end of this day. However, I got no notification about that. Could be Grack TMI'ing at this point. So. All of this post is only possible due to disformation so this post should be regarded as a praise. | ||
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I even think that his mega late vote on ExO is not town indicative. He hadn't voted ALL DAY and then he finally voted on the counter wagon to him. That basically means that he is rendering his votes absolutely unreadable, there's no way to interpret that voting behaviour in any way. | ||
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At this point, I think we're down to TT, TT2, LS, Grack, Chez, Slam, with darth, disformation and myself being the town circle. Then again, there's GlowingBear in not-low-but-no-activity-mode who's miraculously always around at deadline but never seems to give a fuck over the day phase. If there are any town KP located between people, I strongly recommend to shoot whatever you have into Slam/Chez/GB. | ||
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Also, LS, if you're indeed town and you indeed have the bandages, then send the bandages EITHER to confirmed town disformation or to me and don't let anyone know your decision. If roleblocks kill the bandages, mafia roleblocker will have to guess between disfo and me. I understood it correctly that bandages can self-heal as well as other-heal? | ||
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On January 08 2017 03:57 LightningStrike wrote: They can self-heal or heal other people. Whos your top scum? | ||
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On January 08 2017 04:04 Grackaroni wrote: Don't ruin this lynch for me based off a poll. This should be a blow out. The poll results added together are 100.01 ... | ||
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On January 08 2017 04:09 beentheredonethat wrote: The poll results added together are 100.01 ... Let me double check that | ||
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On January 08 2017 04:07 LightningStrike wrote: Grack but I voting myself to spite people. Which is plain bullshit and anti-town just like disfo's self voting so stop it and vote for your counter wagon like any rational person would do. Or, everyone is right with your scum meta and you're indeed scum, in this case, continue. Nah really, this will not bring us any further. | ||
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On January 08 2017 04:10 disformation wrote: yes its 100.01 got the same. see my one post where i had a good explanation for the poll btw Ah forgot about this: you nuked TimeTraveler. Do you have a nuke? | ||
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On January 08 2017 04:12 Grackaroni wrote: lol my point isn't that the poll doesn't add up to 100% The amount of people that would have to have voted in the poll to get numbers like that goes way beyond the plausible number of people who would have voted. Also this is a bastard game. I shouldn't have to explain why we should focus on analysis over things put out by the host. No that's my point. That can either be a rounding error or it can be a manipulated poll. Note how this poll scumreads me by a lot although I claimed to be a 2-shot cop and literally noone counterclaimed all of D3. | ||
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On January 08 2017 04:13 beentheredonethat wrote: No that's my point. That can either be a rounding error or it can be a manipulated poll. Note how this poll scumreads me by a lot although I claimed to be a 2-shot cop and literally noone counterclaimed all of D3. But yeah you're right we shouldn't trust too much in what the hosts say as the first nuke also didn't kill chez. Who fired that nuke? | ||
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That's actually a good catch Oo I didn't think of that. | ||
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On January 06 2017 10:26 LightningStrike wrote: BTW GB could be scum role cop with that EoN stuff from disformation. No way town would have 2 cops type roles. Erm yeah there was something about GB. And LS. Waitwaitwait I think we're missing stuff here. LS claims Cop/Investigative GB claims Cop/Investigative BTDT claims 2-shot Cop/Investigative You guys DO realize that there's a like something fishy in there, right? LS what's your claim again? | ||
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On January 08 2017 05:19 darthfoley wrote: Check me and you'll confirm that I'm Brown Is that like part of your QT stuff? "You return brown upon cop checks"? | ||
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On January 08 2017 03:44 beentheredonethat wrote: ... Grackaroni needs to explain why he thought I'd be dead. Yes, I had the rusty armour, correct, but I used it already. By the way this could mean that I was attacked and will flip at the end of this day. However, I got no notification about that. Could be Grack TMI'ing at this point. ... | ||
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On January 08 2017 05:50 Time Traveler wrote: BtDt, congratulations for being scum!: You said in page 199 that your scum-reads were Tictock and me. And now you said "Oh LS. That leaves Chez and Time Traveler, seems legit". Ooh! Where did Tictock go? I see an extreme change just for your convenience! ##vote Beentheredonethat I guess I can pardon Chez for a while. It's kinda easy, if LS flips green, I think Tictock will flip red. However since LS is the current lynch, it's rather useless to pressure Tictock, especially since you're today's counter wagon. Also where is my convenience? Me calling you scum is not really new. And Chez is interchangeable with Slam, I sad multiple times that they should be simply killed at night by prot roles. Contrary to Chez, Slam is at least playing the game. Also you're lynching a cop check. | ||
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On January 08 2017 05:54 Grackaroni wrote: I've explained it several times already. I got the rusty armor. I was only supposed to have picked up leftover items from the feast or items of dead players. Why would I make this up if I was scum? Thing is, I have used it. But I'm not dead. That is contrary to what you are saying. You cannot have picked it up as it is neither leftover nor am I dead. That's bothering me. I don't see why you should make that up. But you are either lying - or the hosts made a mistake. | ||
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On January 08 2017 05:58 disformation wrote: There are two armours? I assume btdt got the first one and grack got the second one? I got the rusty armour. Not the "Armour". | ||
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On January 08 2017 06:00 disformation wrote: But how did you get the rusty armour? that was during the time you were not playing? I didn't get it. I just double checked. I got the "Armour" but it's rusty. It's in my filter somewhere where I explain that the famous "Armour" is not that great because it will eventually get me killed". When I compared "Armour" to "Rusty Armour" in the post you made, I thought that I received the "Rusty Armour" but yeah I received the "Armour". Which also explains why Grack picked up the "Rusty Armour" as it was leftover. | ||
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On January 08 2017 06:02 Grackaroni wrote: The LS rage is fake. Don't screw this up for me. Lynch will be between LS and TT2. Ever since darth (it was darth, right?) brought up the other game where LS did the exact same thing as scum, I'm totally fine with LS dying. Although I have like the standard paranoia that everyone has I guess. | ||
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On January 08 2017 11:14 GlowingBear wrote: I thought hosts made it so nobody would die? Why would (1)Foley protect you and (2)Mafia attack you? I had a very hard punishment from hosts  I can't use my abilities tonight just because I said I wouldn't praise disfo What? I may not participate in the feast. You claimed rolecop and it feels very scummy that you cannot use your ability this night. | ||
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. I think GB is scum at this point. He's barely playing, just like TT2. Shoot between Chez/GB if a shot is in preferably as I think Slam kinda came out of his afk'ness. | ||
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On January 08 2017 10:33 disformation wrote: oops... A SEED HAS BEEN SOWN IN THE GARDEN OF CITIZEN LIGHTNINGSTRIKE OF LAZ. IT BLOSSOMED INTO A BLUE AND BEAUTIFUL FLOWER also sry for the caps Coming back to this, this is a genuine check from one of Chez' seeds, right? | ||
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On January 09 2017 05:14 beentheredonethat wrote: Wait, Traveler didn't vote for LS? Would he have survived if he had done so? No. 4-4 tied. Hm. my theory doesn't work out | ||
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On January 09 2017 05:17 disformation wrote: GB why did you want ExO_ over time traveler at the end, when you said you would prefer TT2 over ExO_ earlier? I really dislike GB by now. He's not in thread, but somehow manages to drive by, drop a read or two and vote. That's like the definition of a lurky scummer. He has not contributed much, hasn't engaged in discussions and didn't push anyone (or did he, I don't think so). What really bugs me is that I have received a punishment for not praising disformation: I may not grab items from the feast. However, Glowingbear claims that as a punishment, he may not use his ability this night. I assume there were more people being punished or where we the only ones not praising disformation? Because if everyone who didn't praise disformation may not participate in the feast, then GlowingBear is clearly lying and his rolecop claim would be fake. Which would make LS most likely town since he's the only one that GB attacked when he made that claim, right? | ||
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On January 09 2017 05:24 Tictock wrote: Dis switched back to Traveler from LS near the end. If Traveler had voted LS then, LS would have been the lynch. My theory sucked anyways theory: town!traveler was afk EoD, and scum made him appear as scum on the flip. genuine scum!traveler would've voted town!LS to survive. That's why I have a hard time believing that traveler wouldn't save himself especially since he DID save himself vs. ExO. but I think that's a shit theory | ||
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On January 09 2017 05:31 beentheredonethat wrote: So, to survive, TimeTraveler needed to vote for LS which he didn't do. What if this was a scum vs. scum wagon all day long? I think disfo you had this thought somewhere in your filter | ||
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On January 09 2017 07:23 disformation wrote: Oh snap. Did miss btdt saying he also got punished, but a different one. THough imo that may be because: That post might have gotten him a harsher punishment? I have no idea but GB has the look and feel of a lurking scum. Although the LS stuff still stands I guess. There was so much piled up on him and now it's seemingly dismissed. | ||
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btdt darthfoley is where my town circle is at. Although I have to admit that I gave darth a pass for the last 48 hours or so which is bad. Slam: who are you scumreading right now and why? GlowingBear: the punishment comes in just too handy. On the other hand, I can't really see why he would lie there as scum. It's very risky and he could get called out on it so maybe it's even genuine? His filter is really boring and doesn't bring much value on a quick glance. Actually, thinking about it - I initially hated about Time Traveller that he seemed to be caught up but did never anything of value for town, which then made me scumreading him. The same counts for GB. I'm totally fine with lynching GlowingBear. He was initiating a lot of pressure on LS so I think we should judge GB on a LS flip. If LS flips town at any point in the game, we should lynch GB with fire. LightningStrike: he just jumped off the lynch and it was a scum lynch. The weird thing here is that Time Traveller did not hammer LightningStrike to save himself although he was able to do so (according to Tictock at least, didn't double check tbh)! I think TT and LS can very well be scum together, all the stuff that was brought up during D3 has not lost its value just because a scum flipped. I realize that I have "lost" my read on Grackaroni. I need to filter dive Grack so I can get a better read right there. All I remember is the item thingy which to be frank is not contributing too much. I also realize that me scumreading Tictock mainly resulted from a "he's scumreading me and I hate that because I'm actually a fucking 2-shot cop you dumb shit" mindset so I guess I should re-evaluate that, too. Chez is unreadable and should still be killed. Nothing changed there. | ||
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On January 10 2017 06:39 GlowingBear wrote: Wait, you have a role AND an alignment check too? You havent even read. I have an item that allows me to check people. You were observed watching RWBY. Thats a red. | ||
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I think we shouldn't get distracted at this point. GB is going to flip scum. disformation I swear to god if that nuke hits and kills you and you're town, I'll never get in a game with you again. You're confirmed town and thus a 100% necessary nightkill for scum. Once Glowingbear is dead we need to decide between Slam, Grack, LS and Tictock. Any of them can be the remaining scum. If the nuke kills disformation we're left with one scum in five people which is actually okay. Tictock again afk'ing makes me worry incredibly | ||
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Grack do you have bandages? Does anyone have bandages? | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:38 disformation wrote: Like btdt could have been lying about my check to buddy me, and now to get a ML. real easy to say his check got fucked with. but the way his checks work I think make it real unlikely to be made up. he also was on tt2 D3 so btdt only makes sense if he is scum with LS. who I have a blue check on and my gut tells me he is town since like D1. I am pretty confident that GB will flip ruby red and then we just need to lynch between LS/Chez. I'm not sold on the Grack thing, thinking twice about it. I liked that he was absolutely open about his ability. That might not be town indicative on first glance but I think scum!Grack simply wouldn't give town the advantage to figure out so much. I just want to remind you that while we have weird roles in the game, I am the only person to claim an investigative role and I am not counter claimed. At this point, EVERYTHING points towards GB being scum. My check, his claim vs. LS, his "I was punished" excuse for not being able to submit a check - literally everything. Gut says that if GB is scum, then LS is town because they went really hard against each other - so we lynch Chez I'd say. Right? | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:40 disformation wrote: Huh? I got the bandages. Oh I missed that then. | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:41 disformation wrote: Fair enough. For being pissed at ExO_, LS and partially you for not actually playing the game, I am a huge dipshit myself. How are you pissed at me for not playing the game? I contributed way more than others (see tictock) although being continuesly scumread. I managed to fucking get two checks off, confirm a townie and nail one scum. That's not playing the game for you or what? | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:49 disformation wrote: This: into being gone for like 2 1/2 days. Didnt think you would come back TBH I came back because of the newbie game tbh and looked into this game then. | ||
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On January 11 2017 02:52 disformation wrote: So during those 2 days, I wasnt too amused. Though. Apparently I am an even greater shithead and have no right to such claims. sry. You´re really good at confirming yourself as town through sheer level of activity and I regret my check into you by now | ||
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On January 11 2017 03:28 disformation wrote: also: idea i just had. if scum has an ability tjat can change the colour of flips we probably loose 100% regardless of anything. :D thoigh that would be insane on top of what super had, so i hope that isnt zhe case. it's just really weird that you predicted the nuke on Chez being fake and now you're implying that the check might be false. if GB's check is false then your check doesn't hold anymore, too. just saying. is that scumread enough for now? | ||
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2. Beentheredonethat 5. Alakaslam 7. LightningStrike 11. Grackaroni 12. Mi'lord Chezinu (shadowed by kholly) 13. Tictock Will be two in five if no save or w/e happens in the night. That's lylo then, right? | ||
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On January 11 2017 09:36 LightningStrike wrote: ................Wow fuck. Not only did the nuke actually killed dis but GB flipped blue. Welp btdt you got some explaining to do...... What exactly am I supposed to explain? I have checked Glowingbear. I saw him sitting in his home in front of a monitor, watching a anime series called "RWBY". There were posters all around in the room and he was wearing a shirt with Ruby Rose on it. Ruby Rose is red. That's the transcript of what I received as a result of my submitted check. You can either believe that scum has a framing role (or one of the bazillion items circling around is framing and was used) or you can believe that I lied about this check. But it's interesting that the guy who jumped off the brink of a lynch suddenly comes up with "explaining". There are literally two possible explanations: a frame or I lied. Are you not capable of coming to that conclusion on your own? "Welp btdt you got some explaining to do......" This sentence implies that you think I lied. Just reminding everyone that this is LYLO. I look bad from that flip, okay, but if you lynch me, this game is over. Just saying. The first one to implicit call for my lynch is LightningStrike who somehow is still alive although he had been scumread for good reasons. | ||
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He is one of the QT boys. Darthfoley is the only one that flipped from that triangle: You are an Apprentice of the House of Brown. You suffered a delirious night filled with hallucinations and fevered dreams as part of your induction to become an Initiate of the House of Brown -- a secret society built upon “civilized discourse” and “freedom of discussion”, free of “[discrimination] against anyone based on their social, economic, cultural, political background and leanings”. You share a neigbourhood QT with the other members (link). Your alignments are not known/confirmed to one another. Subsequently, you acquired a brown robe! Remain brown even when others peer closely at you! You show up as Brown to alignment checks. [This is a passive ability, not an item.] With this, you were elevated to the rank of Apprentice. This sentence is incredibly important because it makes absolutely clear that it is possible that there is one scum in the QT. Let's think about this a bit more. All three of them were given scum roles. There's a big claiming post where darth describes very detailed what exactly was going on. Darth flipped town so it's genuine: On January 05 2017 02:47 darthfoley wrote: A Poor Man's Confession At the end of D1, I was PM'd to inform me that I was now a mafia roleblocker. My teammates were Ticktock and Grackaroni. Grack was the Godfather, TT was goon. This QT is called the House of Brown. We surmised that Superbia would be a good kill especially if he had a blue role, wouldn't really link back to me, and I was going to claim vigi misshot. I roleblocked Superbia in case he shot/checked me and got saved. Ticktock used his sleeping bag (according to him, one time jailkeep) on Chez so disformation wouldn't get the seed that would probably let him check Grack. Grack claims to have gotten medicine X. He also claims this medicine makes him show up as mafia, but that he hasn't drank it. Not sure if I believe him regarding the utility of his medicine. So we thought this was peachy keen. I was going to claim "vigi shooting" Superbia, while the other mafia team was going to shoot town. This would allow both the other mafia team, and the town to be under the assumption that there was still only one mafia team in the game. However, after the D2 post, we were notified that we had no mafia powers: KP, GF, RB. We weren't even a mafia team. We were just three dudes put in a QT. So, as it stands, I am in a QT that is still being somewhat used with Grack and TT. According to the hosts, our alignments are what we started with, plus the QT, plus "whatever we may have received" D2. So either there were two teams of three that individually chose Superbia kill, or Grack/TT are mafia and knew of our plan, notified the other mafia team, etc. This is partially why I have been trolly and confused. I don't know in which scenario Superbia died. So yea, I wanted to kill Superbia under the assumption that I was mafia. However i'm not mafia. I cannot confirm anything else regarding Grack and TT's alignments Wait. Grack has received a medicine that can frame. Whoa whoa whoa. There's also the conclusion that darth draws and I think it's pure gold. It's getting complicated now - but this could easily be Tictock or Grack being scum part of the triangle. The more I think about it the more sure I get. | ||
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That's like 50% in Grack/Tictock and 33% in Chez/Slam/LS Those are fucked up numbers. | ||
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On January 10 2017 13:57 Alakaslam wrote: Well obs if he is town then I'll go for grack Slam says this too although my impression is that he scumreads Chez way more. | ||
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On January 11 2017 06:40 disformation wrote: Do I like TT baiting ppl into voting? I think I do. This ofc didnt happen cause house of brown (thanks based hosts). Kinda find it strange that TT picks up the scum read he made as fake scum on D2 (the one on btdt). hm: had both in his lynch pool. but would he be voting his mate in the first place, with the super easy exo wagon around? prolly not I guess. This is one I really liked, since it makes a lot of sense and shows thinking about the game. only problem is that he kinda paints himself town with that in the process. where did tt2 go? Huh. He was the one to come up with that BS. Well he goes back to tt2 after the poll and lynches him. so good point for him. =D He also basically had the same reactions after reading TT2's filter I had. Don't think TT is scum. I think I agree with a lot that disformation says there but maybe I'm just desperate for Grack being scum because I really don't feel good about this game anymore. | ||
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On January 11 2017 08:00 disformation wrote: Yeah will do that. Though tbh. Now that I feel better about TT and btdt and to an extend you. From least scummy to most scummy: grack < slam < chez This is what I thought before the GB flip. But with the GB flip and the framing item stuff I'd lynch Grack over Chez even. Still wishing there'd be a vig shot though. | ||
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On December 29 2016 09:03 cakepie wrote: Vote Count Koshi (7) : Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) : darthfoley (1) : Superbia Superbia (1) : Alakaslam (0) : beentheredonethat (0) : Chezinu (0) : disformation (0) : ExO_ (0) : Tictock (0) : Not voting (1) : Alakaslam Grack jumped super late on Koshi. Koshi voted Grack. On January 05 2017 08:55 cakepie wrote: Vote Count ExO_ (4) : Time Traveler (4) : Alakaslam, beentheredonethat, darthfoley, Tictock Alakaslam (1) : darthfoley (0) : Grackaroni (0) : Not voting (2) : ExO_, Time Traveler The day phase will end at Thursday, Jan 05 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), about aaaaaaaaa from this post. remain as you are reading this. Remember, voting is mandatory! If you see any vote out of place, let us know! Grack voted ExO over Time Traveler. Although Tictock and TT himself would go to vote ExO. Not really sure if that's scum indicative. Grackigrack :/ | ||
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LS was under a lot of pressure which completely disappeared. Disfo townread him even in the end. Slam is scumreading Chez. Which to be fair is the easiest thing to do. Chez is planting seeds and not playing the game. Could Chez be 3p? | ||
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On January 14 2017 09:58 Grackaroni wrote: The btdt bus was pulled off really well. I was looking specifically for it because I went into the day assuming TT was town and I still wasn't able to convince myself of it. aww thanks | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:04 Koshi wrote: lol. nha it was great. You did it without even raising my suspicion. wp awww thanks x) | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:08 LightningStrike wrote: wp btdt you got us hard. "Why did I die before btdt? Such a weird kill for them." from obs LS. I was nailbiting that noone would ask that question | ||
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beentheredonethat
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oh btw. GB had 0.00 votes last cycle. prolly got them stolen by scum. slam was down to 0.75 again too nope. we completely ignored almost all mechanics. we even failed to manipulate the uija board. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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I am going to remove all posts I made because I am too salty atm. Reading posts like btdt just made makes me want to kill him. what | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On January 14 2017 10:13 LightningStrike wrote: Well obviously should of been killed if you were town despite the stuff on GB. But serious why you had to kill me when I was still a question mark? During night, I painted a big "It's between Tictock and Grack" thing. Tictock wouldn't be an easy mislynch. Basically it was killing you or killing Tictock. In the end, I feared your activity more than I feared Tictock's activity. You both townread me so I wanted to lynch Grack or Slam. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On January 14 2017 10:27 LightningStrike wrote: Ah fair enough just that I was still questionable to Grack TT sort of. I also hoped that with TT/Slam/Chez activity would just drop off and the game would die off with the town. Funny enough: if Grack had actually tried and found me as scum, town would've won, given the modkills at the end. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On January 14 2017 10:29 disformation wrote: feel free to yell at me a bit if you want to =p I think you're being too harsh to yourself. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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I dunno. If I kill Tictock, will Grack still be the lynch? Hmmmm Would make more sense to remove LS from the equasion and then go for Grack/TT mislynch. I guess. I dunno. WHO KNOWS I DUNNO ##beentheredonethat decapitate LightningStrike From scum QT. I talked to myself there. As everyone in there did. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On January 14 2017 10:29 LightningStrike wrote: It's a legit tatic to kill off high activity players but Iwasn't that active until Night 3 but even then I was still kind of inactive for my own standards lol. It was just so funny when you started raging and you got scumread for it because you raged as scum in a previous game :D | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On January 15 2017 05:18 Calix wrote: Speaking of BTDT, I heard someone say that he should be nominated for a 2017 Award. I don't contest this because I definitely think he's improved from his other scum games. I was aware that he had a hard time posting as scum before so I decided to put him into the "leader" role with his Godfather role + his quest. and i was pretty cautious about the btdt claim at first, I knew this could be a super hard buddy attempt, but him throwing a fit and gtfo'ing for 2 days legit felt like super upset town to me and I wanted him around to see what his check would be. together how hard he bussed tt2, I was pretty convinced he was town at the end (D4). But yeah I should have probably pressed him more about it earlier. I was not a very good check. though with his rage at me N1, I kinda felt it might make some sense. Well he kinda outplayed me. =D If he wins this (pretty likely atm) I will probably nominate him for best scum game. Let me just say some stuff how I approached this game. First of all: I genuinely forgot that I had /confirmed this game. I was not lying when I entered the thread D1, very late. The irony in this kind of hurts since from that point on, my low activity was completely on purpose. However, when disformation said that he found me raging about the paper plane and leaving very convincing - well then that is because I was indeed pissed. I had sent a PM to Shapelog after the mod note with "don't discuss replacements" popped up because I had gone too far and I had asked him to remind me to apologize to disformation post game. Yes, play to win, but I feel like I stepped over the line there. So here's a good point to officially say sorry to disformation for the early N2 stuff which was mainly insulting. Sorry. When disfo said that his paper plane said "yo, btdt is sorry", I was so pissed at the hosts because I felt fucked over. I felt like my awesome scum plan had just turned to ashes because some dumb host wasn't able to take the correct PM and proceed it (yes, that IS what I thought at the time). So I left the game for real, and I only came back and play because Newbie mafia started. I felt like if I would post there but not in Host mafia, people would start to scumread me (also vice versa which is why I will not play 2 games at a time anymore. Like, never again). So I restarted playing in Host mafia. As I saw that my PM to disformation had actually come through AND disfo put up his "last will" post stating that I claimed cop to him, I felt great. From that point on, along with the town cred I had already for bussing TiTr very hard, it was enough to ride stuff to victory. We didn't play at all as one team. I rarely checked the QT, Chez was MIA all night long, and I felt kinda bad for TiTr. Can't speak for him, but I completely ignored my team and played in a way a 3p antitown might play maybe. Basically, I was fine with sacrificing every single team member if only I survived. I'm not sure if I will be able to play that way again as scum and I really hope that one day I'll be in a scum team with people that develop strategies and shit. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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* mislynching Koshi after being on the brink of being policied * completely dropping my scumread of disformation after N2 (since I pretended a green check on him) * gaining a lot of towncred during the game * getting (having) Tictock lynch Grack over me although he scumread me all game. | ||
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