I personaly have not but thats not even what happened here. he tried to take a role bullit imo... poorly...

Something which you did as well and I dont understand how you cant see it

I do it every game and shape does not and has done it as mafia. Sooooooooooo.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 14:10 GMT

#1708

Like the dude literally has 0 reads despite saying he's caught up and then just fucked off when he saw nobody reacted well.

If he's town you're definitely dying dude.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 15:02 GMT

#1711

On December 03 2016 23:41 sicklucker wrote:
not all reads are made on meta. If shapelog does that as mafai then hes bad and should feel bad. but i doubt it

This is so full of crap wtf? You just got told he does something as mafia and you're staying resolute that he's town when your only reason has gone?

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 15:29 GMT

#1714

Yes I just told you about it and your reply was that he's still town because of it you loon.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 15:42 GMT

#1715

Not voting (4): Onegu, emperorchampion, Shapelog, Checkm8

Please vote random people. Also, mar why have you voted everyone but shape today when he's done nothing?

If shape returns right at deadline I'm not going to believe a word of his btw. That would be way too opportune.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 15:43 GMT

#1716

On October 27 2016 06:20 Shapelog wrote:

Show nested quote +

Guess I must speak this game
/in (idk if the gif loaded, it sometimes does and doesn't)

Pre-game excuse:
-Prob be busy
-Logshape is making a appearance at least for 1 cycle
-All reads will be gifs.

Ok at least he did give a pre-game excuse.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 15:44 GMT

#1717

In October rofl, nvm.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 20:07 GMT

#1744

You lynch the people you think are the most likely to flip mafia, there is absolutely nothing more to it.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 20:15 GMT

#1746

I just skimmed what happened since then... I honestly don't see a reason to change any of the points/opinions I made. It feels like finally more people are willing to reconsider SL though. Hell, even you did a 180. Only yesterday you were still yelling at me because I called out shlog and you called me and my reasoning shit. Welcome to the other side.

Also just to correct you, this didn't happen. I have maintained Shapelog is mafia since the first time I've mentioned him and haven't changed it. I have also had sl as my second top mafia if shape isn't mafia. I can dislike your points because they don't make someone mafia but I can independently think the same person is mafia possibly.

On December 02 2016 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
My lynch pool/order is:

Shape
Sl if shape is town, off list completely if mafia
Checkm8
Rels (confirmed town)
Onegu

I mean you complain and whine at me all game but here we are again where you're saying what I've already said but after me

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 20:44 GMT

#1756

I stopped reading when you said "maybe you wrote it to pressure shaoelog but then it's still bad"

I did the same thing to darthfoley about 4 times and he responded excellently and is now a strong town read. What about my questions were hard to answer at all?

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 20:49 GMT

#1758

On December 02 2016 22:13 Holyflare wrote:
Why is he angry?
Why does he have 0 reads?
How can he have 0 reads but adequately defend himself?
How can he be aware of the flips, be here for deadline and still not conclude a thing?
Why are there so many activity excuses that weren't ever mentioned before?
Why is he so angry and attacking player personalities rather than than discussing the points?
How can he possibly know people scum read Checkm8 and himself if he hasn't been around to play?
If he knows this from reading the thread why can't he make a list? That scum team isn't super old, it's post nu flip?
Why is he only filter diving checkm8 with the mindset that he is mafia with checkm8????

So many questions to ask.

This is largely a rhetorical post btw. You're meant to come out scum reading Shapelog from it.

If he can answer some of the ones that aren't weighted to making him look like mafia then he'd be fine?

If he came and posted "I've been busy, sorry, was really tired but now I'm fully caught up and here are my reads bla bla. Sorry, was angry yesterday that you didn't read my defence and called me mafia still so took it out on you personally in anger. I filter dived checkm8 so I could get a better read on other people not necessarily check. I got that he was just afk so not much from that. I'm caught up but I didnt post reads because I only skimmed through and honestly had nothing concrete yet being exhausted."

Then I would likely unvote him. But he didnt.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 20:51 GMT

#1760

The trouble with you is that you play this game wayyyyy too black and white. I like to ask weighted questions, get reactions and go on tone and content based on the situation. Perhaps this is why you can't see past "trash" questions and are obsessed with everything having to make sense. Sometimes you have to live in a tunnelled scenario to see through it.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 20:55 GMT

#1764

I don't think you're mafia at all and perhaps that's where the problem lies.

You are the one thinking THAT I am mafia and all this time I'm flinging things in your face explaining myself, my actions and everything and you're treating it like some inane thing and never re-evaluating. It's incredibly frustrating when everyone else in the game sees it. You criticise me as being tunneled but here we are with no reconsideration.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 20:59 GMT

#1767

It will be bs if check is replaced.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 20:59 GMT

#1769

Darth is not mafia sl. I am not willing to budge on this at all.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 21:06 GMT

#1772

On December 04 2016 06:01 Rels wrote:

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On December 04 2016 05:59 sicklucker wrote:

On November 30 2016 00:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:

On November 30 2016 00:01 mahrgell wrote:

On November 29 2016 23:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
#526

5) and 6) mostly reflect my thoughts on both these players. However, I really don't like this: "Fuck it, I guess I leave [LS] to people who can judge him better until I have seen more from him to form a more conclusive opinion. " It comes back to HF's point re: dedicating a post to someone and not having a clear opinion on them.

On that note, you still have no read on me despite liking the points that were made against me and claiming I am the one you have the most meta with.

Also, fucking stop calling me "controversial" and whatnot.

COntroversial most in the sense that you are among the most suspected players in this game. Deal with it.

And about not having a read, I think I explained why. Because I feel that what you write in this game, and what others call you out for makes you look scummish in isolation. If I add back the meta, it makes you look townish. So back to square 0.

But I don't see much point in argueing about that. I have nothing to add to the allegations against you and it is up to you if you feel you defended enough against those.

If you don't feel like they are worth commenting more, just share more good stuff about other players. Like what are your opinions on HF, SL, emp, TT and LS?

The allegations as you put it are that I made stuff out of thin air (emp and checkmate) which I debunked, that my post on LS was tainted by the fact that I had a pre-made conclusion on him which is a blatant shade-throw for someone who claims to have no read on me (emp), and that I'm losing ppl with my train of thought (Shape, you). (And a point that emp misunderstood)
No example/explanation for the first, shade for the second, and my arguments being too IQ demanding for the third. That's my "case".

Here are my reads:
TOWN
DF
Koshi

LEAN-T
Checkmate
Onegu

LEAN-SCUM
EC
TT ??
SL

HF's point on you is something I agree with. Like I told you in the noobers game, you don't interact with peoplez enough which makes you look unnatural, not transparent which is a mafia trait. I don't have anything to lean either way on him though.

SL has been useless and not in a funny Grack/Superbia way, so he can be scum-leaned until he starts moving his ass.

emp, I don't understand how anyone could town-read him. His serious posts after his trolling were about me, and as I mentioned above, one of them was a misunderstanding and the other one had no evidence on why I was making shit up and contained something I perceive as a shade-throw because he doesn't even scum-read me.

TT seems uninterested by the game :3 I'm thinking it could be NAI because he was willing to give Onegu his spot in the pre-game which would show that he is not that interested in the game, so it's kind of a moot point.

LS, I despised his first post, but I enjoy his attitude in this game. Tone doesn't sound maf. He's null for me now.

Lol he has df as his top town for literraly no reason. Just like he had me at the bottom even tho he was talking about 5 other players. He didnt mention df in his filter before this just like me. Knowing im fucking town and he put me at the bottom. This is just more proof to me that darth is his partner

I have the opposite conclusion on that. Scum don't put their partners top town for no reason

Also agree.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 22:03 GMT

#1808

I'm dying tonight. Kill sicklucker without a shadow of a doubt.

Holyflare

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December 03 2016 22:05 GMT

#1815

Why did you try to change the lynch is the real question.