EPT[M][N] Murder on the Cruise Trip Mafia - Page 41
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Grackaroni
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Grackaroni
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Palmar is normal Batsnacks is normal Then whenever somebody argues otherwise he agrees with them. | ||
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Calix
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Because so far, I've seen nothing convincing outside of "he's hilarious" (courtesy of NU) and "some of his later posts were okay" (which doesn't invalidate the earlier points) Both batsnacks and JAT are playing passively imo. | ||
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Superbia
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Superbia
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On October 05 2016 08:45 Palmar wrote: I am not mafia please guys show mercy Kicked out of my town. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On October 05 2016 16:41 Superbia wrote: Skimmed a bit. Really like grack. Kinda liking bats as well. Pls elaborate | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Grackaroni
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On October 05 2016 17:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Man hf where you go He probably went to work. Don't worry I'm an expert on time zones. I need to know what time it is in the UK if I want to know what time is Marv's tea time. | ||
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Superbia
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I like grack's posts and the perspective he's coming from. I like how bats came back to discuss and contribute things after the shitstorm. | ||
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Superbia
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justanothertownie
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Let's start: On October 05 2016 09:34 Grackaroni wrote: No I'm actually working on it right now, but it's a slow process. My first instinct was to look at JAT and I'm still a bit undecided. There's nothing in his filter for me to really fault but he seems very agreeable. How do you go from the bolded, which is entirely accurate, to me being his prefered lynch? When being agreeable is basically my bog-standard townmeta? I am literally known for this. Still mafia superbia made the same case on me in my last towngame. It is highly irritating. On October 05 2016 14:06 Grackaroni wrote: JAT (Because of general agreeability. Also he weakens his reads whenever questioned.) On October 05 2016 14:07 Grackaroni wrote: I don't really want to go for the Holyflare hat trick on day 1, so I propose JAT. On October 05 2016 16:36 Grackaroni wrote: I do agree though that JAT spends a lot of time arguing people are acting normally. Palmar is normal Batsnacks is normal Then whenever somebody argues otherwise he agrees with them. Literally nothing about my play changed between those posts. As if reevaluating my read on batsnacks was the slightest bit scummy. I had an impression of his game which didn't really hold up when I rechecked his filter. And as far as I know this was the only time this game where I "weakened my read". Never did I retract what I said about Palmar. I wasn't questioned either. Grack is misrepresenting what happened here. Overall this is a bullshit accusation which does not require any towny mindset to come up with. Combined with gracks lackluster play it can easily come from mafia. On October 05 2016 08:18 batsnacks wrote: jat was on the ground floor with NU vs Calix, said later that he has "0 idea why anyone [Superbia] would find that fight interesting." He's been there a few times egging Calix on when what Calix was doing at the time was at best anti town. I know I'm speaking as someone who himself is guilty of not taking stances but jat is also there sort of directing traffic a lot of the time and similarly not taking stances. What does "on the ground floor" even mean? I said that calix approach was hard to understand since nu apparently is such an easy read for her. That's literally the only somewhat interesting thing about that fight and since calix was obviously really invested and out herself out there I did not think it made her mafia. The rest of your accusation is just what you said earlier already and it is probably the silliest accusation I have ever heard. If you only lynch people who do this kind of "anti town" stuff you will never win a single game as town. In fact it is so silly that I find it hard to imagine mafia batsnacks trying to attack me with it. On October 05 2016 09:24 Oatsmaster wrote: I quite like what bats has been doing recently, especially since he returned pretty quickly after his peace out post. Super still whining and not being proactive. Koshi and stutters no-show. Koshi if you really don't have the time, just find one read and push it. Don't do this fluffy shit. Jat a lot of activity but not a lot of content, leaning scum on him. This guy on the other hand is just making a thowaway comment on me without following up un it. He is putting me on the backburner because "I did not offend him" (what kind of bs reason is that?) - possibly because he doesn't really think I will actually get lynched. Might come from mafia. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On October 05 2016 15:37 Holyflare wrote: He's always been a parrot but now he's a boring parrot. There's posts jat picks up on such as early game where he bolded one of my posts and said "is this true?" in regards to calix and nu and then dropped it entirely. Then there's another thing somewhere he dropped let me find it. I think I already answered that in my last post. There was no reason not to drop it. Note how HF acknowledges that being agreeable is not a scumtell for me without really being interested in correcting grack btw. On October 05 2016 15:46 Holyflare wrote: That's a wasted vote. Anyway, I don't like that jat's only vote is palmar. He's been far too conservative. He did some weird batsnacks defence and then found out he didn't realise what batsnacks did post but still defended him anyway and then when batsnacks gets called out jat says he looks bad but doesn't shift his vote. If he admits that palmar doing not much isn't really indicative (he says to marv that palmar isn't scummy for it) then his vote should be on the people he is actually calling scummy but it's not. He doesn't really have scum reads and the only time he does mention scum reads really is to agree with a damdred list. You know fully well that I do not tend to throw my vote around day1. I voted Palmar because pressuring palmar is always good and marv was on it not because I thought he was particularly scummy. Should be quite obvious. On October 05 2016 15:49 Holyflare wrote: I also thought jat's earlier call out of stutters was extremely out of place on a person who posted 3 posts at the start of the game and it sidetracked from actual discussion. It's weird because: A) it's really the only person jat has called out the entire game. B) he ignored scummy things going on for it. C) he knows stutters is a lurker and doesn't post much Looked really forced read. A) Wrong. Called out superbia multiple times for example. Before you did btw. B) What scummy things? Why would they stop me from posting about the guy I thought was the least impressive up until that point? C) Yes, so what? I did not call him scummy for lurking. On October 05 2016 16:01 Holyflare wrote: This game is gonna get boring really fast when jat returns to post some inane drivel retort. What kind of bs is that? It seems like you are just intentionally trying to rile me up. Which I have to admit can come from both alignments in your case. On October 05 2016 16:10 Holyflare wrote: Why do i think the complete opposite then? Batsnacks looks like a complete emotionless robot that posts reads and has no passion behind them. Because most of those posts came way after I posted my initial read on batsnacks?! It is really opportunistic for HF to start pushing me like this just after 1-2 other people started suspecting me. He knows I won't be able to shout him down/defend myself properly today like I usually would. Regardless of his alignment he is pushing mafia agenda here. The problem is that I can easily see HF going after me despite knowing that this is 100 % my townmeta just to aggrevate me because it amuses him. Wouldn't be the first time. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On October 05 2016 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Ah ok, I see where Marv is going here. Super proposed a throwaway question with no doubt in his mind that calix was town. I'm not sure if super is saying that mafia is latching onto to hf's push or that hf is latching on. Scum slips don't exist though so i agree with you This is really bad. Super does something tmi'ish, oats sees it but then he suddenly agrees with gracks assessment that super is town because "scumslips don't exist"? So oats is basically saying mafia will never show tmi or what? Ridiculous. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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justanothertownie
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On October 05 2016 13:12 Grackaroni wrote: @JAT: You quoted some posts from Batsnacks that made you think he wouldn't be scum. Superbia has made a lot of posts similar to those, yet you agreed with Palmar that he would be a good push. Do you think that Superbia would be more capable of making those posts as scum or is this something that you have missed? Since when is batsnacks=superbia? They are very very different players. Batsnacks tends to be more cocky as town. Superbia tends to be cocky and needlessly aggressive as mafia. It is literally his scummeta and I caught him with it multiple times. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 05 2016 17:56 justanothertownie wrote: This is really bad. Super does something tmi'ish, oats sees it but then he suddenly agrees with gracks assessment that super is town because "scumslips don't exist"? So oats is basically saying mafia will never show tmi or what? Ridiculous. No, it means you can't infer alignment based on a "scum slip" because repeated games have shown that it's obviously not true. Also tmi is generally advance knowledge of night actions, not alignment. | ||
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Calix
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HF is opportunistic. batsnacks' push is "so terrible that it might not come from mafia" Grack's push "does not require a townie mindset" Oats is not even a good argument. You're attacking him for a 'throwaway comment' (lol) and for saying that he doesn't believe in scum-slips. Terrible. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
![[image loading]](http://images.clipartof.com/thumbnails/1045740-Royalty-Free-RF-Clip-Art-Illustration-Of-A-Cartoon-Boring-Parrot-Talking.jpg) On October 04 2016 20:44 justanothertownie wrote: It's content is pointless. The hostile/aggressive attitude on the other hand is somewhat interesting. Town read on Superbia above. Only ever mention or interaction with Superbia until I started pushing him below. On October 05 2016 02:55 justanothertownie wrote: How is it the most interesting thing? I think it is pretty boring. Also your scumreads were Palmar and HF earlier and at least palmar can't be because of nu/calix, right? Doesn't add up. On October 05 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote: You could just play the game if you are town. I know - foreign concept. That is quite clearly not a push by any stretch of the imagination. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On October 05 2016 15:55 Grackaroni wrote: I don't think that scum becomes genuinely annoyed at somebody for not answering a question because they don't actually care about the answer. This is something that Superbia has to actively think of to fake. If you're going for the cocky useless scum play, then you are drawing a lot more attention to yourself. It can be harder to pull off than you would think, and it's always a riskier gambit than just contributing more than the shittiest players. Marv isn't going to roll over this game as scum because he hasn't played in months. HF point was something that I noticed as well. Like I said - it is superbias scummeta. Just read some of his mafia games if you don't believe me. I also don't think marv would roll over as mafia because he hasn't played for a while. That's the opposite of how it actually works. The reason why I think marv would be easy to spot is his reduced time to play the game which makes it even more likely for him to not give a shit as mafia than before. | ||
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Calix
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I remain unconvinced. | ||
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