[M][N] Onegu is the Best Host Mafia Part 2

On August 07 2016 15:53 Lunaticman wrote:
Gooooddd mornnnnnnnning USA.

In other news today it seems that we have a few insurgents in the town. I was thinking maybe that we should take care of them.

The activity so far in this game has been pretty horrible. Maybe I need to go back to basics and post like crazy.

What's the post cap in here?!?!?

On August 08 2016 02:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@damdred about rng lynches. it's done for the lols not for the wins. Kind of sad that you actually felt the need to point out that rng lynches are suboptimal.

@hf nice catch on that lunaticman post. When I read it, I kinda thought he always opens like that half roleplaying like? Still I agree with you that the post is suspect.

@onegu the filters link to liquiddota... FIX IT...

On August 08 2016 22:40 GlowingBear wrote:


Can you just answer me please?

On August 08 2016 22:12 Holyflare wrote:
lol I've done shit all and have barely read the game and nobody has pushed suspicion in my direction even the slightest, mafia is some weak sauce team

I'll collect my luna is mafia cred later, choo choo mother fuckers.

On August 09 2016 01:06 Grackaroni wrote:
HF what were your thoughts on the Kush incident?

On May 24 2016 13:31 sicklucker wrote:
didnt really read any of ls's posts but holyflare targeting the weak link is classic mafia stuff. Like we get it its easy to mislynch ls. im probably wrong but im gonna be an ass about it anyway

On August 09 2016 06:33 Shapelog wrote:

Actually I liked his earlier posts....
And I seen GB be shit as either alignment.

On August 07 2016 09:27 GlowingBear wrote:


Town Damdred

Yay damdy now I can proceed to not tunnel you!

On August 07 2016 09:29 GlowingBear wrote:


Dude what a weird question.
I'm already convinced you're scum.

On August 08 2016 12:28 GlowingBear wrote:
HF are you mafia?

Gb while I agree I dislike the play he is doing I also don't know if it's worth a lynch yet. I've seen him do this a few times as town and he matched my thought process at points and lives scum reading me as both alignments. So I am a little pocketed

On August 09 2016 06:38 Holyflare wrote:


are we reading different games??"?!??! shapelog and damdy!?!?!?!

where the hell has GB posted anything of substance?

On August 09 2016 06:42 Damdred wrote:


Th he first post on dis matched my way of thinking. Gb has been lack luster but has shown the ability to play badly as town lately just as much as mafia.

While I agree that Gb hasn't played well so far we have,more time to parse him we should take it ad it,becomes more apparent as the game Gomez along and we both know it.

On August 09 2016 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Meh stuff happens, it wasn't a bad lynch though in any case.

And while I understand your frustration hf just kind of not sure if Gb was scum meh.

And shape I disagree with right now.

On August 10 2016 04:29 Lunaticman wrote:
I tried reading the front page about the role setup, all it says is no abnormal roles. That doesn't mean anything to me. What are the possible roles in the game?

On August 10 2016 09:10 GlowingBear wrote:


Ok

You're bad or you're just mafia. I think you're the latter.

Cya

On August 10 2016 09:26 Shapelog wrote:
...

This is not instant Majority right?

On August 10 2016 08:07 Holyflare wrote:
I also have a wild theory for the end of this entire cycle so remind me of that later.

On August 10 2016 10:35 Shapelog wrote:

So we have Jk/Vig/Cop??

That doesn't make sense at all in a /13, unless there is either more to your role, or mafia has something to = it.
Actually maybe it kinda does if JK is valued at .5 cannot remember honestly

On August 10 2016 10:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Let Holyflare lynch me, when I flip green, you lynch holyflare.

On August 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
I don't care about trading or whatever nonsense you want to defend yourself with

On August 10 2016 11:16 Grackaroni wrote:

The one where you don't call out Holyflare's cop claim as mafia trying to mislynch you. That's just not a good idea for him. He would go from one of the most town read people to one of the least by a lot of people in this game, and what would he gain? A mislynch that he was pretty much guaranteed to get anyway.

On August 10 2016 11:16 Shapelog wrote:

Why am I feeding your shitposting when I am against it....
Fuck it, I am tired, and shitposting is my jam

Well my boy. He is doing something called a "strip tease." Its when a female or male starts to undress very very slowly, to sexually arouse you. Now boy, knowing that you are my kin. You will most likely not see many of these during your life till you meet "the one." Therefore, whenever it happens, take the chance.

In this case, go get that tiger!
+ Show Spoiler +

Wait,
Isn't HF that guy from hemialaina? The one LS had the red check on?

On August 09 2016 06:35 Stutters695 wrote:
Forgot about GB. I don't know his meta really, but if someone else will vouch for him being better as town I'd give it a shot. Only game I can think of was assassin where he pardoned scum and executed town BH iirc.

On August 09 2016 06:22 Stutters695 wrote:


Yeah, I'm warning up quite a bit on lunatic. I still like kush a bit more though.

On August 09 2016 05:22 Stutters695 wrote:
Not sure I agree with you about luna yet(certainly not enough to want to lynch him d1), but the rest of your post is pretty solid.

On August 09 2016 03:56 Stutters695 wrote:


What makes you like the Luna lynch? It actually feels like he doesn't have the time to me.

On August 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
I don't care about trading or whatever nonsense you want to defend yourself with

On August 10 2016 21:11 GlowingBear wrote:
You're wasting your time associating me with other people because I'm town.

On August 10 2016 21:08 GlowingBear wrote:


This never happened

On August 11 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote:
So can we start speculating on who the two mafia buddies are if GB flips scum?

It feels like that is better than the whole thread being afk for 30 hours.

On August 11 2016 10:34 GlowingBear wrote:


This proves holyflare isn't the cop. A cop with a real red check that doesn't believe it is possible that the game has 2 millers will never post this.

In this sense, Holyflare is either tunneled town or Mafia. For the reasons I've stated earlier, I believe Holyflare is in fact Mafia. His push on me day1 felt forced and to be fair, if Holyflare can't believe I would play a game and don't care, I don't believe Holyflare would play a game withot having a broad view of all players. He isn't reacting to the thread and to the other posters, he is just concerned to have me lynched and to incriminate SL while doing it. What about his town reads? I don't think he have them.

There is a small possibility that Holyflare is so certain of his meta read on me that he fake claimed cop to have me lynched without having to face the struggle to convince the thread.

On August 10 2016 10:23 Holyflare wrote:
Prediction:

GlowingBear: LOL he can't be cop and have checked me because he thought I was mafia LOL.

Retort:

Holyflare: Your last post sealed your coffin, you were correct that I couldn't be sure you were mafia. My actions were Vivax-Stutters-You.

I thought there was a high likelihood that the other two would die and switched to someone that reveals a lot of information from the vote count and why nobody would switch to you.

On August 11 2016 22:20 GlowingBear wrote:


Your quoted post doesn't even make sense. I never asked why did you use your night action on me.

I have no reason to say SL had TMI. I thought he called me probably town but he was talking about you.

You yourself considered I could be Miller, I've just quoted a post where you did that

Whatever, lynch me and fail, I really won't waste my time

On August 11 2016 22:47 Holyflare wrote:
Because nobody's first fucking thought on a cop check on a day where i would have likely got you lynched without it would be "oh holyflare could be role cop and gb miller," that's CRAZY and yes sl says dumb shit but it makes me paranoid.

I also said two millers is unlikely, not impossible.

I am also not fake claiming.

On August 11 2016 23:15 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys. Got pretty sick the past couple days. Going to start catching up

On August 11 2016 23:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Also I have a theory:

HF's phase two will be Holyflare changing his red check at the last minute to somebody else.

On August 11 2016 20:32 Holyflare wrote:
Why do you think it heavily implied disfo was a role?

On August 12 2016 04:32 Stutters695 wrote:
Eh, before I forget [B]##vote GB[/vote]

On August 12 2016 06:52 mderg wrote:
phase 2 anyone?

On August 10 2016 15:36 sicklucker wrote:
in a sick world . if mafia has a rolecop and checked gb and saw he was a miller then mafia hf would make this play. would be pretty sick but way too unlikely. could also just be mafia doing it for the lulz his last mafia performance he didnt acualy try at all and let him self get lynched day 1 with no effort. but hes probably town boring

On August 10 2016 15:37 sicklucker wrote:
We should probably acualy lynch hf if gb flips miller. onegu especially likes to throw rolecops in his games I think...

On August 10 2016 15:37 sicklucker wrote:
REALLY UNLIKELY THO GUYS. just wanna throw that out there

On August 10 2016 16:34 sicklucker wrote:
also shouldnt you have been like jailkeeped last night? vivax sure didnt save himself

On August 10 2016 21:22 sicklucker wrote:


if your town he is. I mean theres nothing I can do untill you flip either way. no ones not gonna lynch you today including me.

But if you are town hes 100% a mafia rolecop. If thats true he saw I was right and is trying to set me up. or he could just be an idiot its hard to tell

On August 10 2016 21:24 sicklucker wrote:
Like its acualy insane that hf believes I slipped about a second miller which is pretty fucking unluckly in a 13 player setup. The fact he thinks its almost a certainty rather then a slim chance like I think is interesting. are lawyers not good at probability?

On August 10 2016 21:25 sicklucker wrote:
either way this game will be fun if gb flips miller. a good old battle royale. If he flips mafia so boring

On August 11 2016 13:59 sicklucker wrote:
ya my role cop scenario acualy makes alot of sense when you think about thanks grack for proving im not crazy. is it likely? hell no I have always said this

On August 12 2016 07:11 Damdred wrote:
Oh well if tomorrow is nylon than game is over and it,makes even more sense for you as mafia yo do it.

Always lynch hf even if it loses the game basically.

On August 12 2016 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
I have a bit of a block with Luna for the most part and it's definitely because I've never played with him but I tend to think that new mafia don't try and play the game or solve it when there's a red check afk day. Luna made a case against disfo based almost entirely on his association with GB. So the question is, is he smart enough /motivated to do that. Generally I would say new players arent. I also was hesitant to lynch him d1 because I saw some towny obstinace.

Basically he's probably town unless you can say he's an intelligent mafia.

Disformation is much the same reasoning for a town read but his posting comes across as smart. Yet, he filter dived previous games, did associations etc etc. I'd very likely say he was town too.

On August 12 2016 08:44 Shapelog wrote:

Eh I prob read them tomorrow.
Getting off for tonight.

On August 12 2016 08:31 Holyflare wrote:
Also my wild theory from d2 start is still possible. Difvaimvasvios.

On August 12 2016 09:03 Damdred wrote:
I'm not saying you are necessarily lying, though you have said several lies in the past 48 hours that are damming in itself.

Firstly you say that Gb is easily the next lynch regardless of whether you fake the claim or,not. Basically this is true, Gb already had half the votes needed at the time (basically I was found to vote before the claim anyway).

The better question is what's the point of the fake claim then? There is none

On August 12 2016 09:10 Shapelog wrote:

Bold is right and wrong. Right that he didn't vote, wrong that he ignored SL comments, and in fact, said they were town.

On August 11 2016 22:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, again, I've never questioned your night actions, I have no idea why you're coming up with that.

I also don't understand how you can say that SL has too much insight on me when he calls me Miller (I didn't see that post?) and you jump on him calling him Mafia and never dropping that read when, well, he couldn't have too much insight because you think I'm Mafia and you said that two millers is impossible.

What I'm trying to say is: you either believe I'm Mafia and SL is stupid town considering I'm Miller, or you believe SL had TMI, then I'm town and he is Mafia. You can't call us both Mafia, and that's what you're doing.

On August 11 2016 22:47 Holyflare wrote:
Because nobody's first fucking thought on a cop check on a day where i would have likely got you lynched without it would be "oh holyflare could be role cop and gb miller," that's CRAZY and yes sl says dumb shit but it makes me paranoid.

I also said two millers is unlikely, not impossible.

I am also not fake claiming.

On August 12 2016 09:18 Holyflare wrote:


Nono he didn't even acknowledge the miller and role cop thing which would/should have made him go crazy.



Here's the thing that I posted.



Basically it shows that I was super paranoid that he was towny which makes sense if I don't know his alignment!!! I was getting crazy paranoid with SL's posts and now it fits in perfectly hence why to gb it looked like I was calling them both mafia.

On August 12 2016 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
I have a bit of a block with Luna for the most part and it's definitely because I've never played with him but I tend to think that new mafia don't try and play the game or solve it when there's a red check afk day. Luna made a case against disfo based almost entirely on his association with GB. So the question is, is he smart enough /motivated to do that. Generally I would say new players arent. I also was hesitant to lynch him d1 because I saw some towny obstinace.

Basically he's probably town unless you can say he's an intelligent mafia.

Disformation is much the same reasoning for a town read but his posting comes across as smart. Yet, he filter dived previous games, did associations etc etc. I'd very likely say he was town too.

On August 12 2016 08:38 Holyflare wrote:


An addendum to this though, while Luna's experience and actions lead to me thinking he's town some of the content about there being multiple mafia on wagons is very fucking suspicious and sends alarm bells evry time I hear it.

On August 12 2016 09:39 Holyflare wrote:
Specifically, I know nothing about Luna, I don't know his scum game at all. SL keeps posting he'd be more tinfoil as town and it's making me wifom harder because regardless of alignment I don't think SL would lie about that.

On August 12 2016 17:25 Lunaticman wrote:
I also think it is funny that Dis was the first one to go on the GB train. Were you afraid he might fight back on the claim

On August 10 2016 05:46 Shapelog wrote:

I've played with GB a few times long ago.
He got mislynched Day 1 like 3 times in a roll as town.
He got bussed d2 when he rolled scum.
I think he got pretty far in Outlaw as scum. Cannot remember why.

He has no prob. posting or not posting as either alignment.
Tone wise I never can tell. Kinda similar
And he smells sometimes.

I am actually interested in what you come up with, because I already written what i think about it in my read post I am working on.

On August 10 2016 05:55 Shapelog wrote:

We talking about HF's progression on his read on you.

What I am saying is basically this: HF comes and pushes you. Calls you 100% mafia, and basically just really up for your death. You come back and start posting, and HF somewhat quickly loosens up on his read on you. Quickly enough, to where I feel that it is too quick for scum (I feel scum would continue it for a bit longer). And, during a time that you were viewed as a good lynch. So instead of pushing you, when he could easily do during then, and drop off later if needed. He changed his mind, and even pushed another lynch instead.

On August 13 2016 02:36 disformation wrote:
So. scrolling through hf's filter:
unlikely to be with luna.
unlikely to be with sl.


@hf you mention really early that grack is very town to you. I think you never explained why.
Actually you did town him kinda hard two times, but didn't explain why.

On August 13 2016 04:09 mderg wrote:
Some quick thoughts on hf's possible partners assuming hf is scum. Pretty much only looking at hf's filter for d1/n1.


Shape: hf had him in his scumpile at the end of d1 but quickly changed him to a townread after that.Somewhat plausible partner for hf but not that likely.
Stutters: Pretty much everything is possible. hf mentioned him like once before d2. After that everything is wifom.
disfo: Pretty much only mentions disfo once. Soft defending him against early accusations against disfo's opening posts while pointing to luna's opening posts. Possible partner.
grack: Showing a "positive" opinion of grack throughout d1/n1. Plausible partner for hf.
(me): mentions me once before d2, saying he would be open to lynching me. You can judge that yourself.

On August 13 2016 04:52 Grackaroni wrote:

lol. Do you consult them before doing this or just go for the jugular?

On August 13 2016 04:55 Lunaticman wrote:


Well it is mostly intution combined with several things, voting patterns. First post implied power role, the lynch never taking of and quickly other trains where created.

I woukd actually look at who created the others trains ad why when dis was under attack.

There is honestly no way he is VT.

On August 13 2016 05:19 Damdred wrote:


If anyone lets hf live tomorrow regardless of his alignment your horrible.

Anyone attacks hf he automatically discredits them and attacks there position. He 100% claimed cop and then 5 seconds or whatever before eod unclaimed when it was to late.

No matter how,much he talks or,makes sense you have to lynch him,no matter what.

Hf is widely viewed as the best player on site by almost everyone, would the best player on site as town claim a red check on someone and not rely on his ability to convince the thread they are mafia?
No he threw the game into,chaos and stagnation and,now seeks to push it off on others.

Lynch hf tomorrow no matter what, no matter what his alignment it is what has to,be done.

On August 13 2016 04:56 Holyflare wrote:


PLEASE JUST ANSWER MY ONE QUESTION. WHY DOES IT IMPLY HE'S A POWER ROLE. YOU CAN IGNORE ALL OF MY OTHER POSTS BUT NOT THIS ONE.

ALSO MAYBE WHY CAN'T HE STILL BE A POWER ROLE?

On August 13 2016 07:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok we're still lynching HF. Here are the relevant facts explained by Glowingbear:



If HF was town he would have unclaimed and moved the lynch on to SL on day 2 since he never had a check on GB in the first place. He didn't do that. He pushed through the mislynch on GB and is now trying to close out the game with this final SL push.

On August 13 2016 07:23 Grackaroni wrote:

There are no mafia vigs in 13 player games. That definitely destroys the balance.

On August 13 2016 07:25 Grackaroni wrote:

But they aren't mutually exclusive. If you are convinced that SL has slipped on day 2 then you have to assume that GB is that shit as town by definition.

On August 11 2016 22:47 Holyflare wrote:
Because nobody's first fucking thought on a cop check on a day where i would have likely got you lynched without it would be "oh holyflare could be role cop and gb miller," that's CRAZY and yes sl says dumb shit but it makes me paranoid.

I also said two millers is unlikely, not impossible.

I am also not fake claiming.

On August 11 2016 18:53 Holyflare wrote:
I like how sl is paranoid/mafia but not explaining that if stutters is town and gb is town it's lylo tomorrow and my claim would be good mafia plays.

Gb especially, very disappointed in his attempt to throw suspicion at me, poor show. Disappointment all round really.

On August 11 2016 22:57 Holyflare wrote:


You see if you're town GB and I'm town you have to say that SL is mafia for knowing it at this point. As mafia he knows that I am town claiming cop and you are town so unless there's a framer (there won't be) then you must be a miller. You're accusing me of setting up for SL tomorrow when this very conspiracy theory is setting ME up first.

Yet you say he's town for the shittest post on the planet and I'm setting HIM up.

On August 13 2016 07:29 Holyflare wrote:




I was waivering on GB, you see I WOULD have switched off GB and it was going to happen if he just acknowledged the SL thing but he fucking went full dumb and said SL was towny for a shit post and that somehow SL's post made sense from tinfoil (in what world!??!?!?!?!?). Bolded is most important of why I didn't unvote and put the SL thing in the back of my head, it looked like GB was spewing SL as town to me.