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On August 05 2016 05:39 silentwarrior wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2016 04:17 Skynx wrote:On August 03 2016 01:58 silentwarrior wrote:On August 02 2016 20:51 Skynx wrote:
And thats about it I guess.
Rels/Grack/Silent is possible but prolly one of them is town. Alternatively add Scott in there and make it 2/4.
Luna/KSC/btdt are really low hanging fruits, watch out for anyone pushing lynches on them early on based on activity/contribution.
Celest/Stutters/Moosy/Jroc I won't be lynching for a while.
I'm sure 3rd scum will giveaway stuff if we keep the track on them 4 on mderg train. Did you just put everyone that voted for Mderg as red? If so, then first where is scott? Second, explain why voting for mderg means you are scum, especially my vote since I only voted to not get lynched myself. If that's not how you picked the reds then I want an explanation on why, because you haven't given one. See with the bolded this is what triggers me so much ever since mderg got lynched. This is like such a lazy reasoning I just hate it. You were a policy lynch, you post constructive stuff, make sense and you don't get lynched D1 thats super easy. If you are getting plynched over an also super afk KSC, a 0 posts til 1.5 hours b4 eod Rels you have a problem. Rels came in literally 1.5 hours before lynch, he just posted stuff, people were off him. You do the same' you were active before so you shouldn't feel too pressured about people voting you out of policy, you just point this out. But oh well why should I, just vote for this other guy and I have a perfect reasoning to vote him cuz I'm getting lynched lolz. Anyway yeah, there is mafia on mderg, town rarely goes on a completely off road on a fairly active and making sense guy when there are better candidates. Someone led them on mderg lynch and thats why I was still suspicious of Rels even post claim. I don't really give claims that much credit but that might be just me + Show Spoiler +hi sicklucker, hi emp, hi kruppe  Are you an idiot? The lynch against me had 4 votes, so did the one against mderg. Without me voting for him I would have been lynched. No matter how town I read someone else, I can never be sure of anyones alignment but my own, so I take myself over mderg any day. You are really stupid if you don't understand this.
Well why do you play mafia at all if you can't post your opinions and let people townread you off of that?
All you did this game:
Stfu vote RB.
Bandwagon mderg to save yourself.
Vote someone thats afk.
Taking no risks I see. There is no one townreading you, you earned no towncredit at all this game but for some reason people don't wanna lynch you. I guess we will see.
Also fuck you you fucking fuck. We all have our opinions, you can call someone bad fine if you insult them for not thinking the same way you do thats what we call being a dickhead.
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Man I need some time off mafia. 3 games now I push someone they don't agree with me, call me bad/idiot variants and we both get mad I get even more tunnelled.
Sry for calling you a fucking fuck silent.
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Also remind me to not join a game with KSC ever again.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
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If we have a cop/vigi thats not Rels you are losing this game.
Celest, Rels, Moosy, Onegu should never be lynched.
btdt 1st then I'd go Scott.
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Logical reads don't seem to make sense at this point and people don't move by them anyway. So I'm just gona move by instinct. It tells me btdt has more chance flipping red compared to Luna/scott.
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Yeah not much of a point in arguing. Mafia would most certainly bus Lunatic anyway.
I'll just spend this day to re-read prev days. Silent's reactions were actually good, he has changed much from when I first started to push him, I might drop him entirely.
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Lulz people you need to vote, especially you Mooz
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Other voters have to explain themselves. Mafia didn't even bus lol this is such a wtf game. Silent and celest earned eternal towncred. I'm not scum.
Btdt needs a bit of a re-read but he's putting effort right now.
Comes down to Onegu vs Scott. Onegu has been tunneling Scott since min1 so I doubt he's the last one here.
Scott should be the vote for now. Time to re-read if he's town which would be unfortunate.
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One thing is very important here celest and silent: we can never ever be daunted by others and switch votes. Always vote together.
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On August 08 2016 18:23 beentheredonethat wrote:SkynxShow nested quote +On August 02 2016 03:18 Skynx wrote:
Rels should be the lynch I'm afraid. No one really sticks out to me. This is basically the essence of Skynx Day 1. He doesn't do much, bantering here and there a little bit, and filling the first page of his filter. No strong opinions, no pushes. Interestingly enough, his first interactions are with Lunatic and Moosy, followed up by interactions with me about my "Race Bannon" which at this point is the easiest way to go. He tries to stop the scott train: Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 03:51 Skynx wrote:
Anyway 1st things 1st, mderg, stutters, KSC and jroc pls move away from Scott there is no way he is scum, thank you. Which again is interesting. I mean I stated in my post about J Roc how he is all about lynching scott. Skynx should have seen this and looked into J Roc at this point. He has a high interest in stopping the Scott train so anyone who's actively pushing that wagon should be suspicious to Skynx. Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 05:26 Skynx wrote:
Anyway I think this is my preferred priority algorythm for now:
Rels>Stutters>btdt>Grack>silent
So imo i liked gracks posts more than other two. Can't really quote out specific ones but his interactions felt more like natural towny to me.
Rels is plynch, same with silent.
We can also throw a curveball and go Luna if we don't want to deal with similar behavior cuz he didnt changed much but pretty sure he's town. Town>Town>Town>Town>Town. He wants to policy silent at this point but there's no way that silent should be a policy lynch. Weird thought process there, again. Nothing(!) about J Roc, still, although J Roc is still pushing scott. On a sidenote there's a lazy "could lynch Luna" thingy which might be scum mentioning his teammate so he has something to rely later on. Keep in mind, Lunatic was already under pressure from Silent and myself at this point. Then, Skynx completely ignores his "top 5 lynch priority" and goes for mderg. Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 05:37 Skynx wrote:On August 02 2016 04:02 mderg wrote:On August 02 2016 04:00 Skynx wrote:On August 02 2016 03:55 mderg wrote:On August 02 2016 03:51 Skynx wrote:
Anyway 1st things 1st, mderg, stutters, KSC and jroc pls move away from Scott there is no way he is scum, thank you. What makes you so sure about that? 1: RB kept trolling when roles piled up on him. While scum may not panic sometimes, he definitely didn't look like he gave two fucks if he died right then. 2: Scott had a nice entry 3: You guys are just voting to shut him up, now regardless of alignment its a different player who is at least putting effor in the game. 1. I agree 2. I don't think so. In my opinion his entry was pretty bad 3. No, for me at least. On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.
##vote Race Bannon Hmm actually thats quite bad. Bunch of other stuff not really saying much. He also likes my comment saying RB is a lazy scumread. Like as inconsistent as it gets. Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 05:44 Skynx wrote:
Well since i gotta go bed tone based updates:
Rels, Scott, stutters are town. Also not feeling like plynch as per stutters point so silent gets a pass. Grack is very very slightly above btdt for me.
Mderg or btdt. Ends up on me though: Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 19:35 Skynx wrote:On August 02 2016 06:11 -Celestial- wrote:
Skynx just threw a vote on BTDT right before leaving but didn't actually say why he chose him over mderg as far as I can see. Can anyone point out a post where he says this? It came down to both of them in the end and right before I leave stutters pointed out above. I figured I jumped to conclusions too quickly on mderg, hence btdt vote. And, finally, he goes back to his initial priority: Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 20:51 Skynx wrote:
And thats about it I guess.
Rels/Grack/Silent is possible but prolly one of them is town. Alternatively add Scott in there and make it 2/4.
Luna/KSC/btdt are really low hanging fruits, watch out for anyone pushing lynches on them early on based on activity/contribution.
Celest/Stutters/Moosy/Jroc I won't be lynching for a while.
I'm sure 3rd scum will giveaway stuff if we keep the track on them 4 on mderg train. Like, where is Skynx coming from here? Re-evaluating is a good thing. Townie. But he has thus far not actively pushed anyone. He's just dropping half-hearted reads, going with thread sentiment. Note how he calls Lunatic a low hanging fruit and warns people to not go for him while he puts MoosyDoosy on his town pile, completely ignoring my meta arguments. Since he voted me, he must've seen my meta arguments, right? Show nested quote +On August 03 2016 14:25 Skynx wrote:On August 03 2016 12:40 -Celestial- wrote:On August 03 2016 12:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I actually don't think vig should claim here. As it is, there's really no need to claim so early unless they're under a lot of pressure. I guess an argument can be made that holding onto the vig claim (that isn't going to be challenged unless mafia REALLY needs the mislynch and are willing to risk a mafia life for it) will allow for a potential impact reveal later and make for a less easy N2 shot which would just be on the confirmed town vig (unless there's a doc in the game, in which case they just protect the vig from the shadows). Problem is that we have very little to go on right now, so the extra info could be useful. :-\ That's assuming Vig is one shot. Vig is one shot this game, right? I can't actually see it in the OPs but vig have always been one shot in the newbie games I've played I think. IDK. Game is hard. Vig claim is a bad idea. We need to push mderg voters first, if not cc would be harder to analyse and/or even without cc claim might have less credit. Push first into have your own opinion based on responses is the way to go. Vig can be 1,2 or multishot. I doubt there is a finalised version of role distribution but mafia can prolly analyse if its a limited or multishot vig depending on their power roles. So that makes claim even worse. This is an outright lie.+ Show Spoiler [Roles] +On July 23 2016 05:26 Shapelog wrote:Flavor setting:Show nested quote +Can I pick a fictional horror story that takes place in alternate history where all the characters suffer comedic deaths?
Roles:
You are a Immigrant of Prosper! (Vt) You are in a bliss state, living in prosper, and take part in the governmental elections. You win with town.
You are a Prosper Officer. You have been given special Privileges by the country of Onedia, and have be made a "Officer." You...Aren't entirely sure what a Officer is, but given the history books you have read, you know you can break into peoples houses! Once per night, you may break into a players houses, and see if they are up to no good. A course, you aren't that good at telling hard to understand crime, so any criminal mastermind (GF) will get away. But that shouldn't be a problem in Prosper. You win with town.
You are a Medical student (doc)! While all citizens of Onedia knew basic medial procedures. But you know more detail procedures. Once per night, you may heal anyone one person of your choosing. Not that you need to, no one gets hurt around here anyways. You win with town.
You are aProsper Citizen(vet)! You been around the town, and know all the alleyways. Therefore, in case of a dangerious threat, you have a extra life of sorts. You win with town.
You are aOnedia "Escort"! Sometimes, newcommers just don't work out. So you get the pleasure of moving them for your country. Once per game, at night, you can remove (kill) any person that just arrived (one of the other players). You win with town.
You are a Secret Rebel (goon)! You have your orders a upon arriving, do so. You will get a communicator (QT link), that will allow you to talk with your fellow mafia members. You win with the Rebels.
You are A common sweet-talker (RB)! You were hired to come to Prosper, for a unknown reason. Who cares though, price was good. You are to each night, pick a person and stop them from doing anything to the morning by talking to them. You will get a communicator (QT link), that will allow you to talk with your fellow mafia members. You win with the Rebels.
You are -Confidential Name- (GF) You are head of the Secret Rebel Organization. You decided this operation was worth you coming to the flied. You are good enough at blending in to not be detected by anyone. You will get a communicator (QT link), that will allow you to talk with your fellow mafia members. You win with the Rebels.
The role distribution among the scum team is not random. The "power role distribution" that Skynx describes is always the same as the role descriptions imply. If that is not the case, only scum would know. Let's make sure this is not the case (although if that question gets answered with "yes", it would modconfirm Skynx as scum... lol) Are there any scum roles in the game that have not been described within the role section of the OP?
Absolutely not liking this post from Skynx. Content wise, I disagree with the vig not claiming. Rels was at this point subject to heavy suspicion and was an easy mislynch target for scum at this point. His claim was good, also because the possibility of a doctor was within the setup. Having confirmed town makes things always easier for town imho.
Interestingly enough, he doesn't care for what confirmed town says:
On August 05 2016 04:32 Skynx wrote:
On August 04 2016 17:45 Rels wrote:
Yeah Lunatic dude couldn't help but post every 30 seconds in the previous game, but can't be assed to post for days here. Mafia, or he has some IRL urgencies. Let's hope it's not the latter.
Or he took lessons from last game.
On August 05 2016 04:42 Skynx wrote:
Guys Lunatic is not the lynch here...
##Vote: Silentwarrior
Like - what? This is an incredibly bad vote.
On August 05 2016 04:49 Skynx wrote:
D1 pattern:
silent pushes stutters > stutters is getting townread > people jump off scott train to silent train > Rels starts mderg train > their only interaction in game happens:
On August 02 2016 07:18 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 07:05 silentwarrior wrote:
Rels, what's your take on stutters and my case about him? I read yours on mderg and agree with most of what you wrote, but Stutter's is so blatantly mafia. Also, can others also comment on it? These posts are townie: Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 06:44 Stutters695 wrote:On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:On August 02 2016 00:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:56 Skynx wrote:
Also Moosy how is KSC town is that a tone read? Yes. On August 01 2016 22:54 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 22:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 21:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:
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I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia.
Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic!
As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things.
My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott. I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away. That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise). explAin dood Race Bannon simply posted gibberish which is obnoxious and annoying but not really alignment indicative. scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated. His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post. So do you think btdt's post was shit or good? it was bad So you're scumreading scott because he's scumreading btdt for making a shit post? The scumread itself is not my issue with scott. I'll try to explain it again. btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial. Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody. He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town". That's just way too superficial for me. There's no effort to really figure people out in there, just focusing on single posts with imo very little value. It's like he's following a simple line of seeing a obviouslybad post -> seeing people calling those posts out -> townreading those people. I'd expect a townie to put a bit more thought into it than that. This post makes me much more in favor of a silent lynch over mderg now that I've read his filter Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 06:48 Stutters695 wrote:On August 02 2016 06:36 -Celestial- wrote:
EBWOP: I don't like silent as much as I did but I still think he's pretty scummy.
For clarification there, before someone decides to misrepresent me. Out of curiosity, what did you see in his post that makes you less sure? Before he was a plynch essentially, now he's someone I actively want to lynch. So I'm not sure of anything on Stutters.
>silent votes mderg to survive
The reasoning is dumb - of course silent votes mderg to survive. I would've done the same.
On August 05 2016 05:34 Skynx wrote:
Celest who you wanna lynch? Lunatic won't flip scum.
Hard defense. And look at this:
On August 05 2016 05:36 Skynx wrote:
Can we shennanie KSC/btdt? You said they have equal chances with Luna, Rels. I'm happy with one of Scott/btdt/KSC.
"Can we shannanie the guys that I put in the low hanging fruit category and warned everyone else to lynch them?"
This makes no sense.
Skynx is probably even more likely to flip scum than J Roc. Both dropped fairly under the radar of everyone. I will now leave the thread and think a bit more, reread my own posts about the remaining five and see if I can get even more value into that thread.
All fair points. You earned your place for at least not getting lynched befoer Scott. However, you are wrong in most of them and unfortunately for you, while it may seem to you that you make sense with your points, I'm not scum. I play borderline due to the aggressive nature of my play and most people tend to stay in the struggling zone that celest is in right now i guess.
He tries to stop the scott train:
On August 02 2016 03:51 Skynx wrote:
Anyway 1st things 1st, mderg, stutters, KSC and jroc pls move away from Scott there is no way he is scum, thank you.
Which again is interesting. I mean I stated in my post about J Roc how he is all about lynching scott. Skynx should have seen this and looked into J Roc at this point. He has a high interest in stopping the Scott train so anyone who's actively pushing that wagon should be suspicious to Skynx.
Wrong, actively pushing someone is not a mafia trait. Mafia is all about keeping their options open and being friends with everyone while trying to push an agenda on the sly. Mafia's pushes aren't out there, they can't afford to tunnel. Jroc wasn't even considering other options than Scott, he was sure he's on a track, nothing suspicious here.
On August 02 2016 05:26 Skynx wrote:
Anyway I think this is my preferred priority algorythm for now:
Rels>Stutters>btdt>Grack>silent
So imo i liked gracks posts more than other two. Can't really quote out specific ones but his interactions felt more like natural towny to me.
Rels is plynch, same with silent.
We can also throw a curveball and go Luna if we don't want to deal with similar behavior cuz he didnt changed much but pretty sure he's town.
Town>Town>Town>Town>Town. [b]He wants to policy silent at this point but there's no way that silent should be a policy lynch. Weird thought process there, again. Nothing(!) about J Roc, still, although J Roc is still pushing scott. On a sidenote there's a lazy "could lynch Luna" thingy which might be scum mentioning his teammate so he has something to rely later on. Keep in mind, Lunatic was already under pressure from Silent and myself at this point.
Then, Skynx completely ignores his "top 5 lynch priority" and goes for mderg.
flips (or not yet flips) don't matter on analysis here, you can't really use that as a tool, every read there had reasoning behind them at that point in time. Rels was policy, not posting a single thing for 46.5 hours. Stutters, you and grack had a thing going on, I pointed out there was one mafia, interesting how you skipped quoting that.
I don't understand what you mean with bold. He did more only compared to rels at that point.
Read the luna point as lazy as you want, I did point out why he would be a good lynch. I'm not making it out of nothing.
I have interacted with him in total more than anyone in this site here, he cannot be read the way you guys did also due to the nature of his posting style. So I trusted my instinctive analysis and decided not to scumread him. What I did in the end however, is I moved with the town and voted Lunatic D2.
Then, Skynx completely ignores his "top 5 lynch priority" and goes for mderg.
On August 02 2016 05:37 Skynx wrote:
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Hmm actually thats quite bad. Bunch of other stuff not really saying much.
He also likes my comment saying RB is a lazy scumread.
Like as inconsistent as it gets.
On August 02 2016 05:44 Skynx wrote:
Well since i gotta go bed tone based updates:
Rels, Scott, stutters are town. Also not feeling like plynch as per stutters point so silent gets a pass. Grack is very very slightly above btdt for me.
Mderg or btdt.
Ends up on me though:
On August 02 2016 19:35 Skynx wrote:
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It came down to both of them in the end and right before I leave stutters pointed out above. I figured I jumped to conclusions too quickly on mderg, hence btdt vote.
And, finally, he goes back to his initial priority:
On August 02 2016 20:51 Skynx wrote:
And thats about it I guess.
Rels/Grack/Silent is possible but prolly one of them is town. Alternatively add Scott in there and make it 2/4.
Luna/KSC/btdt are really low hanging fruits, watch out for anyone pushing lynches on them early on based on activity/contribution.
Celest/Stutters/Moosy/Jroc I won't be lynching for a while.
I'm sure 3rd scum will giveaway stuff if we keep the track on them 4 on mderg train.
Like, where is Skynx coming from here? Re-evaluating is a good thing. Townie. But he has thus far not actively pushed anyone. He's just dropping half-hearted reads, going with thread sentiment. Note how he calls Lunatic a low hanging fruit and warns people to not go for him while he puts MoosyDoosy on his town pile, completely ignoring my meta arguments. Since he voted me, he must've seen my meta arguments, right?
Ok, we are at halfway N1 at this point. please point number of people who has actively pushed someone at this point with a hand, then scumread me for it.
Lunatic is a low hanging fruit. No one even doubted that, he did nothing at all, nothing, easy target for mafia.
Moosy on the other hand made a sick analysis on how silent and grack votes were always together, he convinced me and celest.
What is your meta argument? Moosy is trolly normally so when he's not trolly he should be mafia? Thats wifom at best thats why I ignore Moosy until he makes sense, usually around D2-3, your meta is invalid, should be therefore ignored.
On August 03 2016 14:25 Skynx wrote:
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Vig claim is a bad idea. We need to push mderg voters first, if not cc would be harder to analyse and/or even without cc claim might have less credit. Push first into have your own opinion based on responses is the way to go.
Vig can be 1,2 or multishot. I doubt there is a finalised version of role distribution but mafia can prolly analyse if its a limited or multishot vig depending on their power roles. So that makes claim even worse.
This is an outright lie.
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The role distribution among the scum team is not random. The "power role distribution" that Skynx describes is always the same as the role descriptions imply. If that is not the case, only scum would know. Let's make sure this is not the case (although if that question gets answered with "yes", it would modconfirm Skynx as scum... lol)
[b]Are there any scum roles in the game that have not been described within the role section of the OP?
Absolutely not liking this post from Skynx. Content wise, I disagree with the vig not claiming. Rels was at this point subject to heavy suspicion and was an easy mislynch target for scum at this point. His claim was good, also because the possibility of a doctor was within the setup. Having confirmed town makes things always easier for town imho.
Meh, I guess being from #freedom #eagle land helps with the mediatic manipulation in written form [b]THATS A LIE
No it is not. If mafia has a 2-shot roleblocker it only makes sense they analyse vig to be 2-shot and therefore they would shoot rels that night if that was the case, so its not a good claim. It's common sense. You screwing up your own claim past game doesn't help with bitterness I know but you looking to make my point a "modconfirmed scumclaim" is pretty hilarious.
I don't want to discredit you but I'm not gona waste typing time on the rest. My tunnel on silent is explained everywhere, to rels, to him, etc.
Lunatic read is the same as always, you are just parroting your own thoughts to make it sound worse every time.
Altho alright. Let's think from another point. Why would i vote Lunatic as scum D2 then? I got no cred for it anyway, I actively defended him all game? KSC popped in I fired shots at him, people switched on him when I was away. I could've went on KSC cuz I was sure of my point on Lunatic being town, no one would blame me for it and I would get equally discredited for either vote, why bus my teammate when I'm certainly gona be away in eod? I could've helped saving him while getting equal credit for the vote.
I mean you are wrong on so many stuff here, some of them are as clear as day. You are trying to push the same idea in like 3 paragraphs. However, I as a very tunnelling person see where you coming from and get your mindset. Doesn't entirely clear you as town but gets you a pass today.
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On August 08 2016 21:33 silentwarrior wrote:
Ok, just did a quick dive of skynx filter and I have to say I agree with a lot of what btdt says. His D2 voting was weird, first he says he won't lynch lunatic, then votes for him anyway and just leaves. I also really didn't like how he was so deadset to lynch everyone that voted for mderg because of mislynch. Seems really a bad way to find any mafia. His general gameplay is just really iffy for me, like he tries to force lynches where there are none. I also looked through of what MoosyDoosy and Lunatic said of him. They were suspicously quiet about him and never seemed to think he was mafia or anything of the like. Also, Skynx put both of those mafia in either null or town when he did his reads. At this point, I'm more inclined to lynch skynx D4 than celestial/j roc. Btdt and scott are town for me.
I also really didn't like how he was so deadset to lynch everyone that voted for mderg because of mislynch.
because town don't just lynch themselves out of nothingness usually. There is someone pushing for it, always. No mafia on mderg train is impossible, vitrually impossible. Focusing on those targets is the right thing to do. Me focusing you while rels was vigi with no cc was bad but I'm trying to improve on that front. I'm historicly not good at reacting to claims, its evident at all my games.
His D2 voting was weird, first he says he won't lynch lunatic, then votes for him anyway and just leaves.
Please read my point in post above on how mafia Skynx never votes for Lunatic in that case.
His general gameplay is just really iffy for me, like he tries to force lynches where there are none.
Putting yourself on the line is typical scum behaviour right? huehuehue
also looked through of what MoosyDoosy and Lunatic said of him. They were suspicously quiet about him and never seemed to think he was mafia or anything of the like.
Moosy only pushed Grack all game. Lunatic pushed no one. I didn't even check their filter but I'm sure I can find 5 people they were suspiciously quiet about him and never seem think they are mafia.
Moosy was always town. If he didn't got modkilled we would never ever find him and this would be gg. He made sense with his points and analysis. Me townreading him makes me scum is like... I don't even know how to describe it.
It's just bad.
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By the way here are some stats for you:
-two people are actively scumreading me right after eachother.
-two people are hmm "I need to re-read" about it
-one afk
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Hope your daughter is all good btdt...
Moosy played well this game I have to give it. Grack/silent association got me so much between that trio but it was btdt all along eh.
His D4 push on me was so forced but Scott wasn't doing anything so it wasn't totally scummy by him until I got nk'd.
+ Show Spoiler +From: Shapelog [ 4504 posts | Profile | Report ] Subject: Re: OBs Date: 8/9/16 19:47 *slow clap* Original Message From Skynx: btdt 100% last scum, he waited 3 months to make a wifom last stand kill since our loss. Can you just put it there for postgame brag? Hide nested quote - Original Message From Shapelog: http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/L6y2aFMNDMy Reply
WP on Lunatic lynch. I really should give meta less credit.
Also please someone teach me how to handle claims...
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One small note before I forget.
Kelsier, what you do is literally 100 times worse than whatever tactics sl or moosy employ d1 on regular basis. You just straight up don't play the game as a tactic I suppose (?) then come back to claim if you are actually blue/vote yourself or anything along that kind of bullshit. You did this in both games I played with you, you just declare your disinterest in the game and say you won't post at all.
You ignore the spirit of competition and outright disrespect everyone else who put time and effort into the game. I don't even know why you sign up to games. If you have any motivation other than to ruin the game for everyone else please tell so we can judge you based on that.
Until then, go fuck yourself.
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On August 10 2016 22:21 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:17 Skynx wrote:
One small note before I forget.
Kelsier, what you do is literally 100 times worse than whatever tactics sl or moosy employ d1 on regular basis. You just straight up don't play the game as a tactic I suppose (?) then come back to claim if you are actually blue/vote yourself or anything along that kind of bullshit. You did this in both games I played with you, you just declare your disinterest in the game and say you won't post at all.
You ignore the spirit of competition and outright disrespect everyone else who put time and effort into the game. I don't even know why you sign up to games. If you have any motivation other than to ruin the game for everyone else please tell so we can judge you based on that.
Until then, go fuck yourself. Just some constructive criticism here, I realise I had perfect information so take this as you will. We can all agree that KSC's play didn't support his claim - veteran SHOULD be trying to draw the shot and veteran is the easiest claim to make as mafia. Fine. Town also failed to fully evaluate Luna's motivation to claim when the vote was 6:1 and you had two mislynches left with no mafia flipped and a tonne of other evidence with Luna. Edit: I can understand those players already townreading Luna to just hop on to KSC without any further evaluation, this is in reference to those who weren't sure/scumreading both. The big thing I told Luna in QT was that when he claimed he didn't out with the n1 save, which for most experienced players is a huge scum tell/indicator of a fakeclaim, and in pure irony it was teammate Moosy that inquired about the save. Luna entirely played to survive but he had to otherwise he was going down 1 for 0. To be fair what KSC said in his defence didn't help him at all but at the very worst proper claim analysis on both players and holding people accountable for the decision making would have also helped in the event of a mislynch. When KSC dropped his last reads prior to death (usually a town tell, but not exclusively), I was STILL waiting for someone to freak out thinking "wait that's similar to mine..." and switch back to Luna. It is easier to preserve the guy being present but it is a tendency for people to ignore the reasons for being present or absent, or whether they are alignment indicative. It happens quite often, just saying. TLDR: Proper claim analysis (evaluating both players) could have resulted in a correct lynch or more information for town after the mislynch.
Man what I said had nothing to do with claim handling by town. Town might be bad yeah but thats a different story. Even if town lost KSC still just shitted on everyone by abandoning the game d1 and coming back only for sleek one liners and 'oh hey I'm vet btw so lynch me if u want and take a step closer to loss cuz idc'. That was my point. He also did it previous game, where he was getting way more scumread compared to here.
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On August 11 2016 04:51 silentwarrior wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:02 Lunaticman wrote:On August 10 2016 21:00 silentwarrior wrote:On August 10 2016 19:05 Lunaticman wrote:
I just want to say that I got kinda pissed that Moosy went afk and got modkilled. I think BT played beautiful and would have won unless he had to go to the hospital.
Had Moosy not got modkilled it is very possible mafia would have won day 4. So tbh this was a moral victory for mafia but gg. Btdt would probably have won, but Moosy would probably have been lynched D4 anyway. He was my biggest scumread by a big margin at that point. Also, find it funny you wanted me modkilled in obv when I did nothing wrong. It's because the town gained information from a mod. It had nothing to do with you per say. Yeah, but I didn't do anything wrong, mods did. It dosen't make sense to punish me then. Also, Moosy should actually have been modkilled D1, but mods went easy on him. It was his own fault he got modkilled.
What was your incident I must have missed it.
I specifically asked pre-game: it is warning on 1st no-vote, modkill on second. Mods did nothing wrong here.
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