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emperorchampion
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
Currently I am highly suspicious of the fact that lunatic and prpl are barely acknowledging one another. And not previously, like now. I am also highly suspicious of prpl's hammer onto sicklucker. I am somewhat suspicious that lunatic didn't actually answer any of my questions on the previous pages, but that was probably because I was being an ass. I am suspicious because lunatic voted me day 1, then town read me, then posted that he was voting me for information. This was done sheeping the mafia godfather. I'm suspicious that lunatic thinks that I could be mafia after the cop checks. I'll post some more things when i think of them, will probably be tomorrow. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
We only have 1 mislynch. | ||
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DCWasabi
United States368 Posts
One thing that leaped out at me is he doesn't even mention prpl ONCE until the end of page 5. At this point he says just these 2 short posts where he briefly town-reads him, then moves on and never mentions him again: On July 24 2016 01:47 Tumblewood wrote: hm maybe I need to read prplhz's filter. he had one post that I know looked like genuine emotion but maaaybe strategic use of all caps? On July 24 2016 01:49 Tumblewood wrote: prplhz was first on rels so probably town (combined with other things) EC, if you are suspicious of Prpl for not associating with Luna, shouldn't this make you doubly suspicious? It makes me suspicious. He didn't mention Prpl until he already had more content posted then I have for the whole damn game, lol. Did Prpl's alignment magically never cross his mind? His logic did sway me a bit too, you all know that I was town-reading Prpl almost the entire game; and it was in part due to these posts made by Tumble (who I mistakenly trusted). ##vote Prplhz | ||
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DCWasabi
United States368 Posts
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DCWasabi
United States368 Posts
On July 26 2016 04:15 Race Bannon wrote: #tabletowa®®ior ;Honor Him! #totab :notthesamewithoutfriendKruppe By the way, this was legit  | ||
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Lunaticman
Sweden1097 Posts
We should have killed DC yesterday. We can do Haze tomorrow but if he is mafia he's not the one we should go after first anyway. It should be Skynx followed by: DC/EC or DC Skynx/EC works too. And please answer this simple question. Does not one of you think it is wierd DC has not been lynched yet? Also I believe that there are 2 mafia on the Grac train. There only 2 players remaining alive is me and Skynx. Also it is possible that the Tumble train was all town. I have to reread day 2. I think we can solve in there. AFK Ill be back in a couple of hours. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On July 27 2016 11:06 DCWasabi wrote: I just reread Tumble's whole filter. One thing that leaped out at me is he doesn't even mention prpl ONCE until the end of page 5. At this point he says just these 2 short posts where he briefly town-reads him, then moves on and never mentions him again: EC, if you are suspicious of Prpl for not associating with Luna, shouldn't this make you doubly suspicious? It makes me suspicious. He didn't mention Prpl until he already had more content posted then I have for the whole damn game, lol. Did Prpl's alignment magically never cross his mind? His logic did sway me a bit too, you all know that I was town-reading Prpl almost the entire game; and it was in part due to these posts made by Tumble (who I mistakenly trusted). ##vote Prplhz eh you didn't read Tumblewood's whole filter you just went into his filter and searched "prplhz" because he mentions me before that, just using "prp" instead to refer to me. you'd know that if you read his filter but you didn't. also doesn't make sense that you townread me "almost the entire game" for a post a scum made less than 6 hours before he was lynched. especially not when you don't think it was because he had good arguments, but because you trusted him. you also townread me here before Tumblewood even posted any of that. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 27 2016 02:36 prplhz wrote: eh okay this case is really bad generally you just make the wrong conclusions for what appears to be no reason gonna wait until you read my filter before responding but overall 1) koshi dying n3 means nothing 2) this narrative is retarded 3) talked about this already 4) hmm okay On July 27 2016 02:37 prplhz wrote: 4) is literally "town has no reason to do this so you're scum doing it to look town" lol This doesn't explain anything from what I've said. In particular, the 4) point is something scum do all the time. "too scummy to be scum" is a thing scum do when they are in a bad spot. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 27 2016 03:27 Grackaroni wrote: This case isn't nearly as convincing to me as your SL case yesterday. Points 1/4 are mostly just wifom. Prplhz's vote seems scummy in retrospect, but I think his story actually adds up. It's not too odd that he made a switch when he wasn't strongly favoring TW over DCW to begin with. And there's nothing prplhz said that would have prevented him from making a switch on to me if he really wanted to save TW. Prplhz would look bad if Tumblewood eventually got lynched, but I think he could have made the switch if he was already putting that much effort into saving TW by putting out a case on DCW. Point number two is pretty good. I think mafia would want the day to be over before Koshi changes his vote again when SL is getting lynched. But hammering isn't strange for Prplhz. Look at day 2. Lunatic's story of trying to lay a trap for the mafia by encouraging wagons on Koshi/TW and then wanting to kill SL for not voting TW seems more suspicious to me. K I will reread exactly what happened EOD2. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 27 2016 04:54 prplhz wrote: there i can bluff about being the last vote on me but not about being the first vote on me not lynching Lunaticman in a million years It doesn't make any more sense from a town perspective though. | ||
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Lunaticman
Sweden1097 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 27 2016 18:19 Lunaticman wrote: How much time is left? Something like 12h30 | ||
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Rels
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Race Bannon
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uoke , take 5 | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On July 27 2016 18:08 Rels wrote: This doesn't explain anything from what I've said. In particular, the 4) point is something scum do all the time. "too scummy to be scum" is a thing scum do when they are in a bad spot. i don't even know what you're trying to say but Grackaroni explained everything rather well even though i disagree with his answer to 2) because of something you mention right here. the "bad spot" thing. the only "good" thing to come out of this for scum was 3 hours less of discussion. but why would scum put themselves in my position for 3 hours less discussion? was that really worth it? didn't everything in the thread point at a sicklucker lynch anyway? was anyone else (me or my scumbuddy) even tangentially threatened? did anything indicate that in those 3 hours, something bad would actually happen for scum? the thread and the town was like this: a lot of people wanted to kill sicklucker and Koshi was sort of all over the place for a couple of hours but then he settled down. i don't really remember what other people wanted because it wasn't really fleshed out enough and rather unlikely to happen anyway. why would scum feel like they had to risk anything to hammer under those circumstances? and you can say it was because Koshi thought i was scum for a total of 6½ minutes but he completely turned around on that after i wrote two more posts. you can also read my replies to his accusations and see if i feel threatened or pressured or whatever. post some quotes. the idea that we town could've used those 3 hours of discussion and therefore anyone who openly denies town these 3 hours is 100% scum is just naïve. and generally wrong. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On July 27 2016 18:17 Rels wrote: It doesn't make any more sense from a town perspective though. but the argument "this does not look townie so it must be scum doing it to look town" is just so convoluted and backwards and circular that it'll take you anywhere you wanna go | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
This got wxay longer that I initially thought, I'll try to insert some formatting but it still probably going to be a big mess. Day 1 prp's D1 was meh. Pretty passive, get a vote going on me just to see what happens. Nothing very townie or scummy. His EOD1 is scum indicative. He comes back around 2 hours before deadline and has a series of posts during 1 hour in which he pushes a Kruppe lynch, starting with and ending with these posts: On July 22 2016 04:47 prplhz wrote: when is deadline On July 22 2016 05:42 prplhz wrote: Just vote with me and stay up for the deadline. Otherwise it's KAPOW! Not long after that post, Kruppe claims in thread: On July 22 2016 05:54 Kruppe the Eel wrote: Kruppe has decided. The wolves are not backing out. The friends are too shaken by the mysteries surrounding Kruppe. Kruppe is an adept in truth. Then prp disappears for 1 hour, only coming back 15 minute before deadline. Scum has a hard time deadling with new info, especially around deadline when a mistake can get you lynched easily. Here prp was pushing a lynch for 1 hour on Kruppe; Kruppe claimed; then prp disappears without re evaluating. This is scum indicative. As I said, he comes back 15 minutes before deadline, saying he doesn't want to lynch kush, then agreeing to lynch him anyway: On July 22 2016 06:44 prplhz wrote: I don't want to lynch nnn_thekushmountains!!! On July 22 2016 06:52 prplhz wrote: I'm switching to Rels. I'm really unsure but I don't think nnn_thekushmountains is scum. I just agreed with some of his things too much to want to lynch him on d1. On July 22 2016 06:56 prplhz wrote: Hmm okay after reading his filter again I guess we can lynch nnn_thekushmountains. Sorry dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 There is no reasonning explaining this switch. That is it for D1. Starting to read his D2. Day 2 On July 22 2016 19:54 prplhz wrote: maybe grackaroni said it (hurr durr also scumread him) and maybe a bunch of people said it pretty much simultaneously and maybe "adept in truth" sounds a lot more like a COP, a guy who INVESTIGATES PEOPLE to find out the TRUTH about them and not so much like a MEDIC who HEALS PEOPLE or a VIGILANTE who SHOOTS PEOPLE IN THE FACE or a WHATEVER who PUTS THEM IN PRISON i'm trying to make sense of this thing where you claim blue but not a role. but then again, you really seemed to claim cop so i don't know if you're just messing around and wasting everybody's (my) time right now. I remember thinking the whole series of posts where prp gets super angry at Kruppe was super townie. Reading it I thought prp was blue and was pressuring Kruppe hard so he could CC him if Kruppe said the wrong role though. And immediately after Kruppe finally claims, prp townreads him instantly: On July 22 2016 20:40 prplhz wrote: yea okay you can be town now were you roleblocked? So I thought prp was another role than JK and that explained (1) his frustration at Kruppe not claiming clearly and (2) his sudden townread of Kruppe when he finally claimed. But it turns out that prp is not a role, so I find it a little bit weird he felt so frustrated at Kruppe not claiming an exact role. I mean, I was pretty sure he was some sort of cop 'cause he said he was a "keeper of the truth" or something like that. If prp is scum he pressured Kruppe into claiming his role because this info is a good info to have as scum. It might be possible. I don't think it indicate specifically that prp is scum but I don't think it indicates that prp is town either. Both alignment had motivation to do what he did. On July 24 2016 00:42 prplhz wrote: Tumblewood at 5 votes. 1 more and it's hammer and goodbye and silence. On July 24 2016 00:58 prplhz wrote: It's more reasonable to lynch Tumblewood. But this lynch does feel a little easy. Compared to how he keeps saying that Kruppe the Eel should be lynched, this is fairly reasonable. These posts might indicate that prp and Tumble are partner. His attitude is the indicator: he's OK lynching Tumble (to gain towncred if case he's lynched) but bringing up arguments against it at the same time (because Tumble living would be better). I'm pretty sure Koshi summarized these posts better, let me see. Yep talking about this: On July 25 2016 18:21 Koshi wrote: Here prplhz moves back to Tumble: But even though he had Tumble as mafia before he moved with me to DCW, he still undermines the tumble lynch: He bussed. That is it for D2. Day 3 Nothing stands out. Apart from the hammer. On July 26 2016 04:12 prplhz wrote: Hammer. ##Vote sicklucker Koshi Rels Grackaroni All good townies, lets see who they want to lynch. Yes, I know you're gonna get mad about this emperorchampion but I'm bored and I wanna see some blood. As stated multiple time already, hammering is super bad. Hammering SEVERAL HOURS before deadline and BEFORE sicklucker had a chance to talk. See, it doesn't make any kind of sense. EVEN if sicklucker was confirmed scum in prp's mind (and if he is town I can believe it is the case since I was super convinced too), sicklucker's defending himself bring information to the thread, specifically we could have seen how people reacts to it. But we were denied of this info by the hammer. Now the justification is bad too. "I'm bored and I wanna see some blood". It doesn't justify doing the single worse thing that happened in this game. Day 4 Not much to say about it yet. I don't understand the self-vote but I concede it's bad as either alignment. Conclusion Scum. ##Vote prplhz | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 27 2016 18:52 prplhz wrote: i don't even know what you're trying to say but Grackaroni explained everything rather well even though i disagree with his answer to 2) because of something you mention right here. the "bad spot" thing. the only "good" thing to come out of this for scum was 3 hours less of discussion. but why would scum put themselves in my position for 3 hours less discussion? was that really worth it? didn't everything in the thread point at a sicklucker lynch anyway? was anyone else (me or my scumbuddy) even tangentially threatened? did anything indicate that in those 3 hours, something bad would actually happen for scum? the thread and the town was like this: a lot of people wanted to kill sicklucker and Koshi was sort of all over the place for a couple of hours but then he settled down. i don't really remember what other people wanted because it wasn't really fleshed out enough and rather unlikely to happen anyway. why would scum feel like they had to risk anything to hammer under those circumstances? and you can say it was because Koshi thought i was scum for a total of 6½ minutes but he completely turned around on that after i wrote two more posts. you can also read my replies to his accusations and see if i feel threatened or pressured or whatever. post some quotes. the idea that we town could've used those 3 hours of discussion and therefore anyone who openly denies town these 3 hours is 100% scum is just naïve. and generally wrong. You analysis of the hammer is super bad. You're saying "3 hours less of discussion doesn't bring anything to the scumteam". This is the opposite of the truth. sicklucker was killed before he had a chance to react to the votes on him. If he had a chance to defend, he muight have been able to prove his townieness and someone else could haveb een lynched. Him getting lynched instantly without the possibility of this happening was GOOD for the scumteam. Yes, shenannies happens all the time. This is fucking wrong: but why would scum put themselves in my position for 3 hours less discussion? was that really worth it? didn't everything in the thread point at a sicklucker lynch anyway? was anyone else (me or my scumbuddy) even tangentially threatened? did anything indicate that in those 3 hours, something bad would actually happen for scum? In mafia, and especially in TL mafia, it happens ALL THE TIME that the lynch is changed last minute. Only in this game, it happened D1, it almsot happened D2; and counting every game on this website I'm suer at least half of the lynches weren't the leading wagons 1 hour before deadline. | ||
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