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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 27 2016 10:58 GMT
#2681
I'll hammer if you guys are fine with it, DC should be next.

I'm ready to go lylo with Luna if all goes wrong.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 10:59 GMT
#2682
On July 27 2016 19:57 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2016 19:50 Rels wrote:
On July 26 2016 02:51 Koshi wrote:
ec and skynx

pff. it is possible I guess.

This is the only post that is a little weird with a EC green check. It is his last post. But remember that the day got hammered for this lynch, so it's possible this was just to hide his check better and he wanted to post something else before the deadline, only to be silenced by the hammer.


If we assume EC and Grac are the cop checks because I think that's logical and smart. Can we put them in green in the day votes too please?

Yeah I can do that. So in the same time I'll fix the D3 votes.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 27 2016 11:00 GMT
#2683
DC just looks like mafia too me, look at day 2 and day 3 votes from DC with Grac and EC as townies.
Failure is not an option
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 11:00 GMT
#2684
On July 27 2016 19:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll hammer if you guys are fine with it, DC should be next.

I'm ready to go lylo with Luna if all goes wrong.

No I'm going back to work soon and I want time to think about who is the last scum.
And more importantly I want EC to read your filter and give a read about it. He's the one that knows you the most.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 11:03 GMT
#2685
Day recaps colored with flips

With D3 votecount fixed and Koshi's cop checks colored!

+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 final votecount] +

nnn_thekushmountains (6): Grackaroni, Palmar Grackaroni, Koshi, Palmar, sicklucker, Dcwasabi, prphlz
DCWasabi(3): Rels, Skynx, emperorchampion, Lunaticman
Rels (1): Prplhz, emperorchampion, Palmar, Lunaticma Tumblewood, prphlz
Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Skynx, sicklucker
sicklucker(1):: nnn_thekushmountains
Skynx(1): Kruppe the Eel, Palmar
emperorchampion (0): Lunaticman, Tumblewood
Palmar(0): Lunaticman
Lunaticman(0): Skynx


+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 final votecount] +

Tumblewood (6): Rels, Koshi, emperorchampion, Grackaroni, prplhz Kruppe the Eel, Grackaroni, Koshi, Koshi, prplhz, emperorchampion
Grackaroni(4): Tumblewood, sicklucker, Skynx, Lunaticman
Koshi (1): Skynx, DCwasabi
Skynx(0): Skynx
Lunaticman(0): Skynx
Rels (0): Tumblewood,sicklucker, DCWasabi, sicklucker
DCWasabi (0): prplhz, Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Koshi
sicklucker (0): Grackaroni


+ Show Spoiler [Day 3 final votecount] +

sicklucker (5): DCWasabi, Koshi, Rels, Grackaroni, prplhz
DCWasabi (2): prplhz, sicklucker, Koshi, Skynx
Lunaticman (0): Skynx, Grackaroni

Not voting (2): Lunaticman, emperorchampion
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 27 2016 11:05 GMT
#2686
Where did these cop checks came from lol
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 27 2016 11:06 GMT
#2687
On July 27 2016 20:03 Rels wrote:
Day recaps colored with flips

With D3 votecount fixed and Koshi's cop checks colored!

+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 final votecount] +

nnn_thekushmountains (6): Grackaroni, Palmar Grackaroni, Koshi, Palmar, sicklucker, Dcwasabi, prphlz
DCWasabi(3): Rels, Skynx, emperorchampion, Lunaticman
Rels (1): Prplhz, emperorchampion, Palmar, Lunaticma Tumblewood, prphlz
Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Skynx, sicklucker
sicklucker(1):: nnn_thekushmountains
Skynx(1): Kruppe the Eel, Palmar
emperorchampion (0): Lunaticman, Tumblewood
Palmar(0): Lunaticman
Lunaticman(0): Skynx


+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 final votecount] +

Tumblewood (6): Rels, Koshi, emperorchampion, Grackaroni, prplhz Kruppe the Eel, Grackaroni, Koshi, Koshi, prplhz, emperorchampion
Grackaroni(4): Tumblewood, sicklucker, Skynx, Lunaticman
Koshi (1): Skynx, DCwasabi
Skynx(0): Skynx
Lunaticman(0): Skynx
Rels (0): Tumblewood,sicklucker, DCWasabi, sicklucker
DCWasabi (0): prplhz, Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Koshi
sicklucker (0): Grackaroni


+ Show Spoiler [Day 3 final votecount] +

sicklucker (5): DCWasabi, Koshi, Rels, Grackaroni, prplhz
DCWasabi (2): prplhz, sicklucker, Koshi, Skynx
Lunaticman (0): Skynx, Grackaroni

Not voting (2): Lunaticman, emperorchampion


I dont think the mafia would vote on the same player day 1.

It's most likely DC/Skynx/Tumble or DC/Haze/Tumble using that logic.
Failure is not an option
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 11:08 GMT
#2688
On July 27 2016 20:05 Skynx wrote:
Where did these cop checks came from lol

On July 27 2016 00:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Thinking about it on my walk here, I'm completely convinced that the team is lunaticman/prplhz.

I can't believe that I didn't piece together that koshi was cop yesterday, especially when he was posting about everybody needing to do the reads thing, since I had the exact same thought at the end of day 2 that we all need to post reads in order to hide our cop in the future since silent nights. His day 1 check was grack (really good check btw lol), and I was probably his day 2 check (likely due to the last minute vote). I know his day 1 check was grack because after grack posted about only towny people voting for tumble (great post btw), koshi switched there as well. He put 2 people as 0% mafia on his last list, grack and I. I am writing this part first to convince you that I'm town and not trying to deceive you at all in this. We should treat both grack and I confirmed town here.



The day 1 stuff with lunatic and tumble makes complete sense where tumble made his push on me and then lunatic was like "oh yeah I'm convinced", then "oh yeah he's town, but I'm still voting for him to put pressure", and tumble didn't call him out on it either (note: I didn't verify that tumble didn't call him out, but I'm pretty certain). Like if lunatic was town, that's sooo many good town points for jumping onto lunatic for some stupid posting. And there is no reason not too IF he is town, since a lynch is a lynch. One other thing, lunatic and tumble both do not seem like the type that would be likely to bus teammates. Other evidence is the "trap" stuff lunatic was posting about at the end of day 2, which was I guess just complete non-sense.

Like start reading from here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511784-who-needs-72-hours-anyway?user=Koshi&page=12

Another thing I came across was the stuff from Kruppe, which I'll repost here:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 06:33 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Skynx, Sicklucker

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 06:33 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
My wagon was all town?

More evidence against prpl here.

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote:
prplhz is mafia.

And for all the insane fucking things Lunatic has done. I think he never ever once said anything about prplhz.


I am sure it is those 2. ggwpnore.
Fuck I can't believe it. Mafia can't hide forever I guess.




It honestly clicked like a puzzle or something on my walk here, I'm sure there is more evidence on prpl, but I'm totally convinced it's them at this point.

On July 27 2016 01:40 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 25 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:
is there any particular reason why koshi and grac are playing like conjoined twins?

If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted.


Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓

1) Prplhz 75%
2) DCWasabi 75%
3) Skynx 50%
4) Lunaticman 60%
5) emperorchampion 0%
6) Rels 25%
7) sicklucker 60%
8) Gracaroni 0%
12) Koshi

Maybe you are not mafia.

##unvote
##vote Prplhz

This might have been the breadcrumb. I think he was the only one who was absolutely certain EC couldn't be mafia, at the very least.

On July 27 2016 19:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 00:53 Koshi wrote:
I don't think there is a snowball chance in hell EC is mafia. I have read his filter AGAIN. I am not 100% sure ofc but seriously..

These guys, should repeated after me: "EC is not mafia"




On July 24 2016 19:25 Skynx wrote:
Emperors last min was scummy aswell.


On July 24 2016 20:50 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 24 2016 20:26 sicklucker wrote:
emperor why did you vote one person in the vote thread and vote the other in the main thread with like 3 minutes before deadline?


There is a high probability, that SL and EC are scum.

Kruppes read was perfect, I think I will just wait for his reads and do what he says.



On July 24 2016 20:16 sicklucker wrote:
On July 24 2016 19:59 emperorchampion wrote:
There is probably 3 mafia on grack (maaaybe just 2). Almost certain that 1 of grack/sl is mafia, and grack is certainly town. I think we go sl for now.

I think cop only claims if they are about to be lynched or if the lynch target is checked green.


eh no we are both town im pretty sure I dont see how you can reach that conclusion if even I think that

##vote emperorchapion aka the guy lurking at the end waiting to see if he could save tumble



Especially it is beyond me that a vet like sicklucker doesn't see it.

Sicklucker, I would very kindly ask that you read EC his filter and give a definitive read on him. Because I know on of you 3 or maybe all 3 are trying to get him lynched and I don't understand why.

Here Koshi says he read EC's filter "again". But he doesn't mention anything from his filter, just that he is confirmed not mafia. He does say "I'm not 100% sure", then in the same sentence "repeat after me: EC is not mafia".
I think he was trying to make the check obvious in case he was killed, while hiding it as long as nobody knew he was cop.

On July 27 2016 19:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 25 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:
is there any particular reason why koshi and grac are playing like conjoined twins?

If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted.


Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓

1) Prplhz 75%
2) DCWasabi 75%
3) Skynx 50%
4) Lunaticman 60%
5) emperorchampion 0%
6) Rels 25%
7) sicklucker 60%
8) Gracaroni 0%
12) Koshi

Maybe you are not mafia.

##unvote
##vote Prplhz

+ this, as mentionned already earlier today
2 checks, 2 people at 0%. It is super smart. It doesn't attract the attention, while giving info. Super super cool. (=
I'm 99% sure those were his green checks. If he had a red check we would have known.
The 1% chance is that he checked someone that was killed, but then I think he would have put only 1 person at 0% in this list.

Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 27 2016 11:09 GMT
#2689
Out of the players left I think: Haze and Rels are most townie.

Ohh look at that DC and Skynx have never voted on the same player. Interesting.
Failure is not an option
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 27 2016 11:10 GMT
#2690
Man thats like pure speculation. But whatever they are both 100% town anyways.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 11:11 GMT
#2691
On July 27 2016 20:06 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2016 20:03 Rels wrote:
Day recaps colored with flips

With D3 votecount fixed and Koshi's cop checks colored!

+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 final votecount] +

nnn_thekushmountains (6): Grackaroni, Palmar Grackaroni, Koshi, Palmar, sicklucker, Dcwasabi, prphlz
DCWasabi(3): Rels, Skynx, emperorchampion, Lunaticman
Rels (1): Prplhz, emperorchampion, Palmar, Lunaticma Tumblewood, prphlz
Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Skynx, sicklucker
sicklucker(1):: nnn_thekushmountains
Skynx(1): Kruppe the Eel, Palmar
emperorchampion (0): Lunaticman, Tumblewood
Palmar(0): Lunaticman
Lunaticman(0): Skynx


+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 final votecount] +

Tumblewood (6): Rels, Koshi, emperorchampion, Grackaroni, prplhz Kruppe the Eel, Grackaroni, Koshi, Koshi, prplhz, emperorchampion
Grackaroni(4): Tumblewood, sicklucker, Skynx, Lunaticman
Koshi (1): Skynx, DCwasabi
Skynx(0): Skynx
Lunaticman(0): Skynx
Rels (0): Tumblewood,sicklucker, DCWasabi, sicklucker
DCWasabi (0): prplhz, Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Koshi
sicklucker (0): Grackaroni


+ Show Spoiler [Day 3 final votecount] +

sicklucker (5): DCWasabi, Koshi, Rels, Grackaroni, prplhz
DCWasabi (2): prplhz, sicklucker, Koshi, Skynx
Lunaticman (0): Skynx, Grackaroni

Not voting (2): Lunaticman, emperorchampion


I dont think the mafia would vote on the same player day 1.

It's most likely DC/Skynx/Tumble or DC/Haze/Tumble using that logic.

That is an OK point. Scum votes tend te be sprayed, and especially D1 there was no reason for them to vote together with kush clearly leading the votes. But the only team that eliminates is Tumble / DC / prp.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 11:13 GMT
#2692
On July 27 2016 20:10 Skynx wrote:
Man thats like pure speculation. But whatever they are both 100% town anyways.

It is a little bit, but Koshi is a strong player. I assume he knows that as cop he's supposed to leave hints of his checks in case he's killed before he has a chance to claim, which is exactly what happened. So it is not random at all.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 27 2016 11:14 GMT
#2693
Man Koshi's page 13 is a goldmine.
On July 25 2016 21:16 Koshi wrote:
Lunatic is just pushing town into the wrong direction constantly and hasn't had a single decent game solving thought in his 17 page filter. The guy limits himself to just posting random scumteams without any decent logic behind it. But the most damning is that he yelled the entire D2 that there was mafia within Kruppe/Tumble/Koshi and then voted Grack. That is inconsistent and pushed mafia agenda.
Lunatic also only makes somewhat sense if he is defending himself, then suddenly it makes somewhat sense why he did things (even in our world). I do not believe that the guy is so clueless about finding mafia.

And let me explain once more: Clueless does not mean he doesn't know how mafia works, he knows, but he has never presented to this thread a real reason why somebody is mafia.

Also for 17 pages of filter. He never ever is convinced somebody is mafia ever. Like one moment he could say "Koshi is mafia" and the very next post he is trying to convince me that prplhz is not mafia and we should lynch Grack.






And for prplhz:
Only player this game that is flying under the radar. Received townreads in the start from literally everybody and is riding that townread to the sunset. Mafia or potential mafia never tries to put any suspicion on him, look at lunatic, never ever is prplhz in a scumteam, same for sicklucker, and probably also tumble, --> prplhz doesn't exist to these people. Yet EC is getting scumread 24/7. While the guy is town incarnated;

I showed that during the lynch he was with me to swap to DCWasabi, and after that didn't happen (why??? if we both are town) he moved back after me to Tumble (he had really no choice tbh or show serious face) but kept advocating to not lynch Tumble.

Other than that prplhz has not made enough posts that jump out. But I guess that is the flying under the radar part.




Not saying I am 100% certain. But I have shown that prplhz and Lunatic could have actual hidden agendas this game.
prplhz plays silent mafia that puts himself in a good position. Classic.
Lunatic I don't believe is town. What did the guy do that was solely town in his filter? Or really mafia? He would be very atypical mafia, and for this reason alone gets townread.


sicklucker is just super blunt and open, if he wanted to save Tumble so bad he could have went to DCW. I don't think DCW is mafia, I don't think sl is mafia. I have to be wrong on both. I don't believe that.

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 11:15 GMT
#2694
Alright work time. See you later folks (=
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 27 2016 11:16 GMT
#2695
not even the author of Koshi's case against me thought it was any good
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-30 16:40:54
July 27 2016 11:16 GMT
#2696
On July 27 2016 18:50 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2016 18:22 Rels wrote:
On July 27 2016 18:19 Lunaticman wrote:
How much time is left?

Something like 12h30


uoke , take 5


[hr)

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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 27 2016 11:21 GMT
#2697
On July 27 2016 20:16 prplhz wrote:
not even the author of Koshi's case against me thought it was any good

not even the lousiest blacksmith thought your hammer was any good
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 27 2016 11:23 GMT
#2698
eh just hammer me the reason not to hammer sicklucker was that he might have changed some people's opinions but that's not happening here

this game is boring me but i pretty much never join two at the same time and i wanna play onegu 2

i already gave my final reads
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 27 2016 11:23 GMT
#2699
On July 27 2016 20:21 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2016 20:16 prplhz wrote:
not even the author of Koshi's case against me thought it was any good

not even the lousiest blacksmith thought your hammer was any good

the difference is that no one is claiming that it was good
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 27 2016 11:24 GMT
#2700
On July 27 2016 20:23 prplhz wrote:
eh just hammer me the reason not to hammer sicklucker was that he might have changed some people's opinions but that's not happening here

this game is boring me but i pretty much never join two at the same time and i wanna play onegu 2

i already gave my final reads


Yeah same but that's lame.
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