EPTChoice was elect GB and have Emp lynched or Jean and Moosy lynched.
Moosy flipped goon so... easy call for scum to make there.
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Choice was elect GB and have Emp lynched or Jean and Moosy lynched. Moosy flipped goon so... easy call for scum to make there. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On June 27 2016 06:47 Jealous wrote: Good answer. The bold above is very much in line with the way I approached my vote as well. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On June 28 2016 01:33 Jean Valjean wrote: Is this something you genuinely believe? It's possible. I'm somewhat sleep deprived and a little frustrated atm so take it with some salt. | ||
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Jealous
10307 Posts
On June 27 2016 18:52 Jean Valjean wrote: "hallmark of a terrible player" was perhaps a bit strongly worded. There's a lot of good players who fail to understand the three commandments of the townie. I guess something like "The hallmark of an incomplete player". Yea, I'm not a big fan of the condescension. From personal experience, I feel like it is very easy to dip into that vile habit when you put more effort into your writing and participation in something than those around you, or when you find yourself in a position of power. I think that the best way to get Superbia to come around would be to talk to him as an equal and not a thorn in town's side. When Superbia was dug in on what would have been a losing lynch in the last game I played with him, he came around to logic and reason, not because I berated him. I think he is a good player, and although his posting style can be somewhat irritating (multiple one liners and vague open-ended statements that are essentially "to be continued"), I feel that everyone has a different method of going about satisfying your three major town criteria. I sometimes catch myself typing a "stream of consciousness" post in which I end up contradicting my opening sentence with my last one, essentially catching myself in WIFOM when I would otherwise have been concrete on my initial analysis. Perhaps Superbia needs to hit the post button, re-read his post, and then post again to achieve a similar result. On June 27 2016 18:54 Superbia wrote: Jean, I understand that you have a vision and everything, but just remember that in the end it's just a game. I play to have fun. I don't have fun writing (and reading) long and elaborate posts. However, I can't really get behind this. Even if you are not a fan of writing long and elaborate posts, sometimes that is what is necessary to win someone over. Some of the inductive logic that results in a read or lynch cannot be simplified into two lines and contain words like "feels," so when others are not supporting you in a read you are certain of, it's time to hunker down and make your case as best as possible. This takes effort and is what makes this game interesting, in my opinion. If someone posts a long and elaborate post, you simply cannot be averse to reading it. The more words a person writes, the more indicators of their alignment are possible; if there are none, that may be suspect in itself ("narration" as someone put it earlier in the thread, I think?). If you don't read the long posts, you are ignoring potentially valuable information on three things: the issue at hand, the writer, and the intended reader. Reactions cannot be gauged if the initial post is not read. On June 27 2016 18:59 Superbia wrote: Treat others as equals, Jean. Ok I just got to this after I wrote the above, but hopefully it counts as more when another person seconds this sentiment. On June 28 2016 00:25 Jean Valjean wrote: He is probably talking about the bodyguard. This is the one thing that's going to be extremely helpful in deducing GlowingBear's alignment. His choice of bodyguard is very, very important. Do not let him get away with anything less than a full explanation for his choice and make sure it fits his thinking and approach. In addition, this is just speculation, but at some point in the game it may be a good idea to claim the bodyguard role. The reason is quite simple. We probably have some blues the mafia is going to be looking into shooting. A claimed bodyguard is a massive annoyance to mafia because if they want to eliminate me they have to first kill the bodyguard (if I understand the rules correctly). That means two extra nights for our blue roles to do their job. Also, this is more long term, but there is no world where we have named townie + 3 blue roles. That would be excessive, so if a situation comes up where the claims look like that, be very vary of the claims and start making hard decisions on blue roles. Can you explain the "two extra nights for our blue roles to do their job?" I don't see how revealing the bodyguard will result in this nor how it is a good idea. What if the bodyguard is blue? What if either you or GlowingBear have a blue PR? It seems like a potential stack of dominoes that could fall very quickly. I know GB claimed "named VT" which is basically a null Blue role, which sucks for town, but at the same time I've already expressed concern that this might not be the reality of the situation. Either way, I need to be convinced on this point. On June 28 2016 00:26 Jean Valjean wrote: Chez has been unimpressive so far. There's always a certain leeway with him, because you can usually count on him showing up to actually do stuff later in the game, but this is getting both annoying and suspicious. I don't trust quiet revolutionaries. I feel the same way. Artanis blatantly dodged my asking him to give an objective opinion on Chez's filter, which is very annoying too. It's good to see that someone agrees with me. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On June 28 2016 01:35 emperorchampion wrote: @ TT this is from Jealous' filter (cause I realized damdred has 6 pages lul) Yea see I missed this kus I was looking for his reasoning before EoD. Humm, this doesn't really explain why he waited so long to switch then... Damdred's vote onto Jean was like 5 min before EoD. For a moment I was thinking the switch happened when Jean said he'd lynch Super instead of Moosy. On June 27 2016 05:56 Jean Valjean wrote: No, if I'm lynching scum instead of baddies, I'll be killing superbia I think But it was actually just before that, basically when he posted this On June 27 2016 05:54 Damdred wrote: Lynch Tt Jean blah So I guess that does track. Humm, I'll mull this over some more and I still need to reread EoD in better detail. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
So up until this page people are unsure between Moosy and emperor for a lynch, but so far Moosy has the edge and this happens: Tumble questions this and it doesn't get answered. Then Super, Tumble, GB, JVJ and QT are ok with emperor lynch. On June 27 2016 04:35 Damdred wrote: My reads aren't off at all the only person I'm reconsidering is super. I have Tt as scum. Jealous as a lower null Super US falling Ec is a higher null Not a bad pool tbh I wouldn't lynch ec today at all emperor between that interval did not post. He is also not playing well at all. He is almost all joky one liners with only exception being a JVJ scumread based on delusional stuff. So i don't think there is even a reason to tr EC to start with but even so why null read him when he's done nothing town indicative at all? | ||
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Jealous
10307 Posts
On June 28 2016 02:52 Skynx wrote: I'm at 49 right now and I found something interesting. So up until this page people are unsure between Moosy and emperor for a lynch, but so far Moosy has the edge and this happens: Tumble questions this and it doesn't get answered. Then Super, Tumble, GB, JVJ and QT are ok with emperor lynch. emperor between that interval did not post. He is also not playing well at all. He is almost all joky one liners with only exception being a JVJ scumread based on delusional stuff. So i don't think there is even a reason to tr EC to start with but even so why null read him when he's done nothing town indicative at all? EC's response to GB is so good that I want to TR him. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
Both are the only ones to tr emperor: Both are only ones to scumread TT (except Tumble but he changed his mind i think?) Both are hardcore defending eachother in Art vs QT Both are never ever lynching Chez cuz "he's their friend" | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On June 26 2016 12:25 emperorchampion wrote: Have to read up on this guy, null atm Then there is also this. How can you not have a read on most active guy in the game? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
I think Super has been very good so far. He's insightful with his posts, he asks a lot of questions, he's solving the game with his moves. Plus scum Superbia is very very different to town Superbia based on what I've seen from HF game, newbie game and 1day mafia. I'd assume they have played even more games together and should be up to date with his meta so this is very interesting to say the least. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On June 28 2016 03:10 GlowingBear wrote: Skynx are you new to the game? Yeah | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On June 27 2016 06:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Just looked at TT's filter for interactions regarding MD. Looks pretty bad to me. Soft scumming a scum whilst pushing others. The first post is one of the only ones actually addressing MD. That said, there wasn't much to go off on anyway so there is that. Scumreads TT for him being soft gut reading Moosy. On June 27 2016 05:57 Damdred wrote: I also think moosey flips town though meh. Just a gut feel nothing to base it on There is no way in world I'm gona believe you missed this post which is basically identical. Also you talk about tunnelling after this is so ironic... | ||
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Jealous
10307 Posts
On June 28 2016 03:10 GlowingBear wrote: Skynx are you new to the game? Fresh eyes that it may be harder to pull the wool over  | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On June 28 2016 03:23 GlowingBear wrote: This game is hard. What's your opinion on me anyway? You haven't posted a word on me if I didn't miss anything. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
Full town: GB, JVJ, TT, Super Sort of town: Jealous, Tumble, QT Null: Chez Sort of scum: (tempted to put Chez here) Super scum: emp, Art, Damdred GB, JVJ and Super are obvious towns for me I don't see a reason to scumread them at all. TT is there because he's thinking exactly the same way with me about Art/Damdred/emp and town should stay united. Jealous is less town cuz he's a bit more difficult to read this game, I've skipped couple of his posts, have to re-read later on but nothing sticking out in particular. Tumble was as afk as me in last 24h so I'd give him some objective discredit for that. Otherwise I like his posts. QT needs to start playing good but I think there is no way he's in a mafia set up with Moosy as his teammate. Chez is super afk, odds are not good on him. Still yet to post anything of a candy's value this game. I'm super certain there is at least one mafia between last three. More leaning on Damdred compared to other two only by a thread. I think he should be our lynch tomorrow. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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