EPT[M][N] Presidential Election Mini Mafia - Page 52
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12972 Posts
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Jealous
10339 Posts
On June 27 2016 04:59 Jealous wrote: Tumblewood: + Show Spoiler + Pretty weak play so far. Has only posted one or two substantiated reads. This quote from him sums it up: "like, there's playing the game, and then there's trying to solve the game. most of us are just playing the game right now..." Don't like him so far, but not enough to say he's scum. GlowingBear: + Show Spoiler + Some decent posts questioning people. A lot of fluff otherwise. Asking to be mayor over and over without giving any reasoning as to why he should be one. Somehow has garnered a lot of support despite not being wholly convincing to me. Only one real good post explaining his reads. If he wasn't pushing so hard to be mayor without any real foundation, I would townlean on him. Jealous: + Show Spoiler + I'm VT. emperorchampion: + Show Spoiler + Very weak start to the game but made a goost post @Jean, which I liked. Overall I'm not very impressed with his play so far, but he hasn't said anything that seemed outright scummy, so I have him as null for now. Damdred: + Show Spoiler + Weak reads, hasn't contributed much of anything at all. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/510385-presidential-election-mini-mafia?page=23#459 This post is suspect because he gets on the defensive while saying that there is "no real reason" for him being scumpushed, but has done nothing in the game up to that point, which to me is reason enough. Later on he gets pressured more, and again says there is no reason to scumread him even though yet again he hasn't contribute much of anything. Gives detailed reads under pressure and they do not impress. Does reads based on "tone" and stuff like that. Tries to jump on me for a policy lynch, then posts this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/510385-presidential-election-mini-mafia?page=41#807 Trying to be objective about it, I think is a horrible post. I answered a question directly to the best of my ability and he disqualifies it because I have no experience playing with Artanis? Also uses this as an opportunity to further support his QT town read that he has been pushing from the start. A few posts later, he is convinced that I am scum and not just inactive as I said I would be, all based off of one post. Although, apparently moves me to "lower null" just a few minutes ago. Makes a late push for pardoner? On what basis? -_- Definite scum lean. MoosyDoosy: + Show Spoiler + Super trolly as always, which I hate that he can get away with every game (according to what some veterans have said so far). Impossible to read and thus not a benefit to town so far. Chezinu: + Show Spoiler + Has contributed the least of all besides MoosyDoosy. Hard to read off of that, but necessitates a mild scum lean from me. Artanis[Xp]: + Show Spoiler + A few jokey posts at the start of the game, with some weak/fake reads. I don't personally like that style of play but I wouldn't send him to the gallows for it (if I were to do so, Moosy would go first). I can actually understand his push on QT, as QT himself said he plays "oddly" and that seems to get him into trouble D1. I wish QT would play less "odd." It wouldn't cause situations like this one. QT's case was pretty weak in my opinion but because he isn't the type to let it go, Artanis was forced into a defensive position (seems like he doesn't like giving up either, even though he eventually did). Overall I'd have to say Artanis reacted pretty normally to the situation. After that, I feel that he has been active and trying to push the game forward, albeit using too much meta, history, and "tone" for my liking. His play vs. Jean and @TT, I can't entirely agree with, but he's trying. He's town to me. More to come. QuickTwist: + Show Spoiler + I like that he has a serious approach to the game, but I also feel this results in him being somewhat obtuse in the early game of D1. Probably still acclimating to TL. It might be harder to do so as a player from another site than as a total newb to Mafia like the other newbs from the Newbie game. Regardless, I definitely did not feel like his counter-attack on Artanis holds water. Also seriously dislike his tone, which he tried to excuse as being reflective of some real life situation, but I have the inclination to believe that it is more reflective of a short temper and not coping well with the mannerisms of TL Mafia. This isn't AI, though. I think I just might not like him as a player, as opposed to thinking he is scum for it. The hyper-aggression just makes me look down upon him. "What the fuck is this dumb ass argument?" - Why so serious, kiddo? Got your panties in a bunch? -_-; QuickTwat from here on out. However, I am inclined to lean town on him simply because he is playing with purpose and without much indication of being scum. I think he is making the same mistake I did D1 against him, which is ironic: jumping to conclusions. Also, he seems to have given a few free passes, which I don't like. Will have to stick to my read that QT vs. Artanis was TvT for now. Jean Valjean: + Show Spoiler + Seems like a constructive and experienced poster. Reacted well to my raising suspicions about his election strategy. Still gives me the creeps a little, but not enough to pinpoint him as the scum. I feel that his clear presentation of ideas makes it easier to work with him, whether he is town or not. Any deviation from this foundation he has made as a reputaiton would be under instant scrutiny. I'm okay with him being Mayor, I think. Hopefully I'm not wrong. Tictock: + Show Spoiler + I like his stance on QT's play, not so much on Artanis's play. His strategy for voting which would make him pardoner didn't make much sense to me. However, his other posts seem to be probing in directions I can get behind (beside Chez for Prez, which given Chez's filter I can't really take seriously). I townlean on him. More to come. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
Idk. Jealous' reaction was okay-ish. About what I expect from his town-self. Maybe not preferred lynch today. See how he plays tomorrow when he has time. Going to sleep. night.  | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
And also your read still sounds like a scum read that ends in a non logical concussion. Would still lynch Tt first for,not doing anything at all | ||
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
As just a random thought, apparently Jealous isn't aware that GlowingBear claimed a blue role. This doesn't mean much, but it means it's slightly less likely they're both mafia, and it's a weird thing to miss if you're mafia. But who knows. I'm not lynching Jealous any time soon anyway, I think. As much as I hate having to do it, I'm lynching Moosy if I become the mayor. I have no reason to think he flips mafia except the one I gave earlier about how he should be one based on logic. The problem is Moosy is a very selfish person and completely willing to ruin the fun of 13 people just so he can have his own fun. He doesn't try to win games as town, he is more interested in entertaining himself. We need to lynch him. It's not a great lynch, it's not one that's particularly likely to get us mafia. I hope he gets banned after literally playing against his win condition this game. So that's where I am at. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12972 Posts
On June 27 2016 05:46 Jean Valjean wrote: Superbia is slipping farther into mafia territory while he continues being utterly pointless. As just a random thought, apparently Jealous isn't aware that GlowingBear claimed a blue role. This doesn't mean much, but it means it's slightly less likely they're both mafia, and it's a weird thing to miss if you're mafia. But who knows. I'm not lynching Jealous any time soon anyway, I think. As much as I hate having to do it, I'm lynching Moosy if I become the mayor. I have no reason to think he flips mafia except the one I gave earlier about how he should be one based on logic. The problem is Moosy is a very selfish person and completely willing to ruin the fun of 13 people just so he can have his own fun. He doesn't try to win games as town, he is more interested in entertaining himself. We need to lynch him. It's not a great lynch, it's not one that's particularly likely to get us mafia. I hope he gets banned after literally playing against his win condition this game. So that's where I am at. [2] | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
GlowingBear (5): Superbia, GlowingBear, Tumblewood, Skynx, Damdred Jean Valjean (5): Artanis[Xp], Jean Valjean, MoosyDoosy, QuickTwist, Jealous Tumblewood (2): Tictock, emperorchampion Artanis[Xp] (1): Chezinu, Jealous (0): Superbia (0): Skynx (0): QuickTwist (0): As of now, GlowingBear will become Mayor and Jean Valjean will become Pardoner! Day 1 ends Sunday, Jun 26 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12972 Posts
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
I don't particularly think GlowingBear is very towny. I feel like his early game was lackluster, and now as a claimed blue his play lacks a certain... aggressiveness (meaning, I'm surprised he's not yelling in all caps at the top of his lungs at people for being stupid enough to actually make him earn the mayor title when he's a claimed blue). He is very measured, says little, and seems to not be very passionate, when most people would be getting pretty annoyed at having to compete with some random smurf for the mayor title. I'm not lynching him, or anything like that, I just want the notion out there. I am very disappointed in myself to make moosy my primary lynch, it is not a good lynch and it is basically a fear lynch. But I don't think I can allow that question to remain in the game. | ||
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
On June 27 2016 05:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't want emperor to get lynched I don't think. Pretty sure he's one of the first to cast doubt on Jean and I have a hard time seeing newbie scum do that. This is a valid point, although his casting doubt on me was never followed up on, nor was it particularly well aimed. But yes, I had the same thought earlier. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12972 Posts
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Damdred
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12972 Posts
On June 27 2016 05:53 Jean Valjean wrote: This is a valid point, although his casting doubt on me was never followed up on, nor was it particularly well aimed. But yes, I had the same thought earlier. I see where you're getting at but I feel it would be suicidal for mafia to do just that. From what I scrolled through he didn't seem like a lemming last game. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
Jean Valjean (6): Artanis[Xp], Jean Valjean, MoosyDoosy, QuickTwist, Jealous, Damdred GlowingBear (4): Superbia, GlowingBear, Tumblewood, Skynx, Tumblewood (2): Tictock, emperorchampion Artanis[Xp] (1): Chezinu, Jealous (0): Superbia (0): Skynx (0): QuickTwist (0): As of now, Jean Valjean will become Mayor and GlowingBear will become Pardoner! Day 1 ends Sunday, Jun 26 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate. | ||
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
On June 27 2016 05:54 Damdred wrote: Lynch Tt Jean blah No, if I'm lynching scum instead of baddies, I'll be killing superbia I think | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Idk how I feel about gb being pardoner though might spite pardon today | ||
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Jealous
10339 Posts
On June 27 2016 05:44 Damdred wrote: That's the thing though jealous the whole,basis for gb running for mayor is in his filter. And also your read still sounds like a scum read that ends in a non logical concussion. Would still lynch Tt first for,not doing anything at all He was pushing for mayor well before he revealed his blue role. I ignored it for that reason. When he saw that he wasn't getting support for his campaign which was basically "vote me mayor pls," he pulled out the claim, which I don't buy based on his play otherwise. This is what I meant by "if he wasn't pushing so hard for mayor, I would townLEAN him." Which means I don't townlean him. | ||
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Damdred
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On June 27 2016 05:56 Jean Valjean wrote: No, if I'm lynching scum instead of baddies, I'll be killing superbia I think If this guy lynches me literally lynch him tomorrow. No fucking questions asked. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12972 Posts
On June 27 2016 05:54 Damdred wrote: Lynch Tt Jean blah He won't do it and we can lynch TT later anyway. TT actually becomes more readable later on and dunno if MD does so I don't mind the shot. | ||
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