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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 26 2016 19:36 GMT
#981
On June 27 2016 04:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 04:31 Damdred wrote:
Why am I not even being considered for pardoner when I an the best person ons ite finding town and actually being right?

Literally I am the most level headed and incapable of omgus for a long time. Get me pardoner and gb mayor.

I'd be fine with it. Just not sure you'll get enough support anyway.


Kinda sad isn't it?
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 26 2016 19:37 GMT
#982
On June 27 2016 04:35 Damdred wrote:
My reads aren't off at all the only person I'm reconsidering is super.

I have Tt as scum.

Jealous as a lower null

Super US falling

Ec is a higher null

Not a bad pool tbh I wouldn't lynch ec today at all


If you're town you really need to work on your read on me. x;
Minimal effort.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 19:40 GMT
#983
On June 27 2016 04:36 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 04:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 27 2016 04:31 Damdred wrote:
Why am I not even being considered for pardoner when I an the best person ons ite finding town and actually being right?

Literally I am the most level headed and incapable of omgus for a long time. Get me pardoner and gb mayor.

I'd be fine with it. Just not sure you'll get enough support anyway.


Kinda sad isn't it?

Eh I'm kinda fine with both Jean and Tumble getting it too. Pretty confident in both being town atm.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 26 2016 19:41 GMT
#984
You've had some really really weird posts super, you haven't been reading the thread closely asking for repeated answers to,things answered the previous page.

Its just weird tbh couplers with your Kong absences I can't keep you locked town.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 26 2016 19:42 GMT
#985
On June 27 2016 04:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 04:36 Damdred wrote:
On June 27 2016 04:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 27 2016 04:31 Damdred wrote:
Why am I not even being considered for pardoner when I an the best person ons ite finding town and actually being right?

Literally I am the most level headed and incapable of omgus for a long time. Get me pardoner and gb mayor.

I'd be fine with it. Just not sure you'll get enough support anyway.


Kinda sad isn't it?

Eh I'm kinda fine with both Jean and Tumble getting it too. Pretty confident in both being town atm.


Nobody has faith in me anymore: (
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 19:42 GMT
#986
On June 27 2016 04:42 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 04:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 27 2016 04:36 Damdred wrote:
On June 27 2016 04:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 27 2016 04:31 Damdred wrote:
Why am I not even being considered for pardoner when I an the best person ons ite finding town and actually being right?

Literally I am the most level headed and incapable of omgus for a long time. Get me pardoner and gb mayor.

I'd be fine with it. Just not sure you'll get enough support anyway.


Kinda sad isn't it?

Eh I'm kinda fine with both Jean and Tumble getting it too. Pretty confident in both being town atm.


Nobody has faith in me anymore: (

But Dammy, I do have faith in you! You're still one of my strongest townreads, it's just not a big enough difference and not enough people share my opinion to really push for it.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 26 2016 19:43 GMT
#987
On June 27 2016 04:41 Damdred wrote:
You've had some really really weird posts super, you haven't been reading the thread closely asking for repeated answers to,things answered the previous page.

Its just weird tbh couplers with your Kong absences I can't keep you locked town.


Oh well.

What are Kong absences btw?
Minimal effort.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 19:45 GMT
#988
On June 25 2016 23:57 Tictock wrote:
I'm thinking we should try our best to make today's vote a 7v6.

If we let things get too split or try to do last min shenanigans it will give scum potential to move votes into a position that gives them a mayoral role.

This actually becomes pretty simple today if people can agree I'm clearly the best pardoner. Then we can focus on who should be mayor and who should be the D1 lynch (so basically everyone focus on a townread and scumread and see which we best agree on).

I might be overthinking this, but today's vote is actually fairly important and can prob secure a town victory if we play it right.


Art I just saw this post and I really like it. His other posts before this aren't really alignment indicative in my opinion. It's just... Lazy...
I'm adorable.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 26 2016 19:46 GMT
#989
Long absences super. Ie you have been absent for a unsuper amount of time.

I definitely won't lynch you but I can't keep you so high now.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 19:49 GMT
#990
On June 27 2016 04:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 23:57 Tictock wrote:
I'm thinking we should try our best to make today's vote a 7v6.

If we let things get too split or try to do last min shenanigans it will give scum potential to move votes into a position that gives them a mayoral role.

This actually becomes pretty simple today if people can agree I'm clearly the best pardoner. Then we can focus on who should be mayor and who should be the D1 lynch (so basically everyone focus on a townread and scumread and see which we best agree on).

I might be overthinking this, but today's vote is actually fairly important and can prob secure a town victory if we play it right.


Art I just saw this post and I really like it. His other posts before this aren't really alignment indicative in my opinion. It's just... Lazy...

Why do you like it? It's talking about setup only and is one of the posts I dislike because he had done like nothing so far and instead of focussing on developing reads he was doing.. that.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 26 2016 19:50 GMT
#991
On June 27 2016 04:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 23:57 Tictock wrote:
I'm thinking we should try our best to make today's vote a 7v6.

If we let things get too split or try to do last min shenanigans it will give scum potential to move votes into a position that gives them a mayoral role.

This actually becomes pretty simple today if people can agree I'm clearly the best pardoner. Then we can focus on who should be mayor and who should be the D1 lynch (so basically everyone focus on a townread and scumread and see which we best agree on).

I might be overthinking this, but today's vote is actually fairly important and can prob secure a town victory if we play it right.


Art I just saw this post and I really like it. His other posts before this aren't really alignment indicative in my opinion. It's just... Lazy...


This post is so easy for either alignment to make though. Like really nai
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 19:53 GMT
#992
Skimmed the rest of his filter, nothing stood out as scummy. I think his suspicions on you and Damdy are okay, I found myself being suspicious of you and damdy from times to times too. But I just remind myself that I may be having paranoia
I'm adorable.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-26 19:54:43
June 26 2016 19:53 GMT
#993
Announcement

There will be a silence period after the deadline. It will last until I confirm the lynch and the bodyguard choice. Please, absolutely no talking between the deadline and the night post, even popcorn.

Deadline is in
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 19:54 GMT
#994
On June 27 2016 04:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Skimmed the rest of his filter, nothing stood out as scummy. I think his suspicions on you and Damdy are okay, I found myself being suspicious of you and damdy from times to times too. But I just remind myself that I may be having paranoia

That sounds like you don't scumread me anymore. Didn't you still have me leaning scummy earlier?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 19:56 GMT
#995
On June 27 2016 04:50 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 04:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 23:57 Tictock wrote:
I'm thinking we should try our best to make today's vote a 7v6.

If we let things get too split or try to do last min shenanigans it will give scum potential to move votes into a position that gives them a mayoral role.

This actually becomes pretty simple today if people can agree I'm clearly the best pardoner. Then we can focus on who should be mayor and who should be the D1 lynch (so basically everyone focus on a townread and scumread and see which we best agree on).

I might be overthinking this, but today's vote is actually fairly important and can prob secure a town victory if we play it right.


Art I just saw this post and I really like it. His other posts before this aren't really alignment indicative in my opinion. It's just... Lazy...


This post is so easy for either alignment to make though. Like really nai


Although it's easy, it's not Mafia's best interest to convince town to do this. In other words, it doesn't follow a scum agenda.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 19:57 GMT
#996
On June 27 2016 04:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 04:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Skimmed the rest of his filter, nothing stood out as scummy. I think his suspicions on you and Damdy are okay, I found myself being suspicious of you and damdy from times to times too. But I just remind myself that I may be having paranoia

That sounds like you don't scumread me anymore. Didn't you still have me leaning scummy earlier?


Your emotional reactions are giving me pause to the scum lean.
I'm adorable.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 19:58 GMT
#997
On June 27 2016 04:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 04:50 Damdred wrote:
On June 27 2016 04:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 23:57 Tictock wrote:
I'm thinking we should try our best to make today's vote a 7v6.

If we let things get too split or try to do last min shenanigans it will give scum potential to move votes into a position that gives them a mayoral role.

This actually becomes pretty simple today if people can agree I'm clearly the best pardoner. Then we can focus on who should be mayor and who should be the D1 lynch (so basically everyone focus on a townread and scumread and see which we best agree on).

I might be overthinking this, but today's vote is actually fairly important and can prob secure a town victory if we play it right.


Art I just saw this post and I really like it. His other posts before this aren't really alignment indicative in my opinion. It's just... Lazy...


This post is so easy for either alignment to make though. Like really nai


Although it's easy, it's not Mafia's best interest to convince town to do this. In other words, it doesn't follow a scum agenda.

This is exactly the kind of post you want to make as mafia though, and he didn't push through the idea at all either after dropping it.

Anyway case on TT I made boiled down to:
On June 26 2016 19:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 18:54 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 18:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I also have a natural bias against OMGUSing because I know people tend to view scumreading someone that suspects you as such so I tend to focus on other people. It's kinda funny/stupid but it's true.


So then maybe you should explain your read on me a little better.

You've been a complete non-factor throughout the game, mostly just echoing sentiments of others. Your focus point has been on things other than reads in the early game when you did have time, such as plans on mayor/pardoner. You also seem very stuck in your reads, no fluidity at all and call me out for changing my reads as if it were a scum factor, and don't really seem to be attempting to unearth people's alignments.

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 19:59 GMT
#998
On June 27 2016 04:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 04:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 27 2016 04:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Skimmed the rest of his filter, nothing stood out as scummy. I think his suspicions on you and Damdy are okay, I found myself being suspicious of you and damdy from times to times too. But I just remind myself that I may be having paranoia

That sounds like you don't scumread me anymore. Didn't you still have me leaning scummy earlier?


Your emotional reactions are giving me pause to the scum lean.

It bothers me that this is the reason people townread me now. Put a bunch of effort in to figure out the game, get scumread. Get pissed people keep tunneling, get townread.
Mafia sucks
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10361 Posts
June 26 2016 19:59 GMT
#999
Tumblewood: + Show Spoiler +
Pretty weak play so far. Has only posted one or two substantiated reads. This quote from him sums it up: "like, there's playing the game, and then there's trying to solve the game. most of us are just playing the game right now..." Don't like him so far, but not enough to say he's scum.


GlowingBear: + Show Spoiler +
Some decent posts questioning people. A lot of fluff otherwise. Asking to be mayor over and over without giving any reasoning as to why he should be one. Somehow has garnered a lot of support despite not being wholly convincing to me. Only one real good post explaining his reads. If he wasn't pushing so hard to be mayor without any real foundation, I would townlean on him.


Jealous: + Show Spoiler +
I'm VT.


emperorchampion: + Show Spoiler +
Very weak start to the game but made a goost post @Jean, which I liked. Overall I'm not very impressed with his play so far, but he hasn't said anything that seemed outright scummy, so I have him as null for now.


Damdred: + Show Spoiler +
Weak reads, hasn't contributed much of anything at all.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/510385-presidential-election-mini-mafia?page=23#459

This post is suspect because he gets on the defensive while saying that there is "no real reason" for him being scumpushed, but has done nothing in the game up to that point, which to me is reason enough.

Later on he gets pressured more, and again says there is no reason to scumread him even though yet again he hasn't contribute much of anything. Gives detailed reads under pressure and they do not impress. Does reads based on "tone" and stuff like that. Tries to jump on me for a policy lynch, then posts this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/510385-presidential-election-mini-mafia?page=41#807

Trying to be objective about it, I think is a horrible post. I answered a question directly to the best of my ability and he disqualifies it because I have no experience playing with Artanis? Also uses this as an opportunity to further support his QT town read that he has been pushing from the start.

A few posts later, he is convinced that I am scum and not just inactive as I said I would be, all based off of one post. Although, apparently moves me to "lower null" just a few minutes ago.

Makes a late push for pardoner? On what basis? -_-

Definite scum lean.


MoosyDoosy: + Show Spoiler +
Super trolly as always, which I hate that he can get away with every game (according to what some veterans have said so far). Impossible to read and thus not a benefit to town so far.


Chezinu: + Show Spoiler +
Has contributed the least of all besides MoosyDoosy. Hard to read off of that, but necessitates a mild scum lean from me.


Artanis[Xp]: + Show Spoiler +
A few jokey posts at the start of the game, with some weak/fake reads. I don't personally like that style of play but I wouldn't send him to the gallows for it (if I were to do so, Moosy would go first). I can actually understand his push on QT, as QT himself said he plays "oddly" and that seems to get him into trouble D1. I wish QT would play less "odd." It wouldn't cause situations like this one. QT's case was pretty weak in my opinion but because he isn't the type to let it go, Artanis was forced into a defensive position (seems like he doesn't like giving up either, even though he eventually did). Overall I'd have to say Artanis reacted pretty normally to the situation.

After that, I feel that he has been active and trying to push the game forward, albeit using too much meta, history, and "tone" for my liking. His play vs. Jean and @TT, I can't entirely agree with, but he's trying. He's town to me.


More to come.

"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 26 2016 20:03 GMT
#1000
Art is everyone right saying I haven't done anything this gane?

I've felt I have taken a stance on everything,this game so far and have opinions that are clearly stated throughout?

Some opinions that are quite contrary to sentiment. Idk
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