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On April 15 2016 22:39 Half the Sky wrote: SMDH that is easy to do in a post-restricted game. ##shoot Shapelog Yet as a host of a certain game, you should know that i exploited a feature, and usually had more posts then was allowed because I had friends in high places. Don't make me get the Wikipedia beg post..... | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3vjwKQo.jpg) Fluff: 8 posts Gifs: 8 posts Trollish: 14 posts Drunken: 2 posts Content: 8 posts This time: Content: 30 posts Everything else: 10 posts  , lynch me if i do not meet these expectations. | ||
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On April 19 2016 08:15 Trfel wrote: I didn't realize your posts were worth that much money XD It is a complex process. First I take out all the hot air, by preforming reverse Postomios on the post's postplasm. Then I feed it into a machine that converts it into raw energy. This is were it gets technical. From here, it goes to Donald Trump's Hair due to comicoulis. So you can thank Shapeinc. for all the memes about his hair. Then, collecting the raw hate from his racist mouth (using a metaporhiclos), I crossed bread a chicken with them, and the chicken then lays out the paper for the bill. Next, I murder the chicken, and cook it till it is brown and crispy. I sell it to KFC (you can thank me for their chicken as well) and use the profits to fiance a off-shore wc3 game. Doesn't matter who wins, as I only collect the souls from the dead units. Then, I put them to use on my "Educational" website. Teaching "Kids" how to deal with certain things. Then i collect the "kids" sweat, and use it in my perfume line. I sell those, but as they get sold, I cut off the girls (or guys) hair and sell that to a wig shop. Then they give me the ink for money. then it is just a matter of starring at it, till the Ink and paper to undergo Binary fission with eachother, and I get money. Simple. On April 19 2016 08:28 Fecalfeast wrote: So all your posts should add up to $100 by the end of the game? Who gets the $100? idk, haven't decided yet. Maybe I'll give it to a up coming player, to prevent match fixing. On April 19 2016 08:36 Blazinghand wrote: it's all about the benjamins, apparently ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/l41lFvtuqmey9QTAY/giphy.gif) | ||
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On April 19 2016 21:48 Half the Sky wrote: It looks like I might have to resort to reading Shapelog's posts on my commute though the way he's going >_< ##shoot Shapelog (again) 75% content/25% everything else? ##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS Trying to discredit me during pregame, even after I admitted that I am changing. Will make life hell on earth. + Show Spoiler + ##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS##Spam HTS | ||
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Sky then goes on to go after players. ??? Sky will get lynched. ##Vote: Half The Sky | ||
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As I already have said, Going to be focus on content this game. Will waste about 5 of my posts to get the ball moving Day 1. Then i switch into content mode. | ||
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On April 20 2016 07:30 Koshi wrote: My vote will be on the person who I think contributed the least and will be the hardest to read town in future days. Interesting approach. inb4 you get lynched for similar reasoning | ||
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On April 20 2016 07:34 Damdred wrote: Hello I'd advise everyone but koshi to put a number in your post so that you can keep a better check on them. Koshis just awesome enough he doesn't need it. I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons. We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice. Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here! [1] Lol Damdred. I personally hate Plynchs in general tbh. Prob. because I like content and not luck in lynching someone lol (even though I rarely make it easy for people to read me as town via content )Also yes, was bout to do this. [3][3/5 for off the bat] | ||
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damdred obv scum for cheating. Official Tortoise race rule book 2016 states that "No tortoise can fuck with another tortoise. A townie tortoise never thinks about cheating! [4][4/5] | ||
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On April 20 2016 08:00 DoYouHas wrote: Huzzah, town this time. It amuses me to see you all worried at the cap. To you it is a limit to be minded. To me it is a aspiration . You are all merely adopting low activity for a game. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see spam till I was nearly a man and by then it was naught to me but fluff. - Gumshoe is overplaying the jokes with Koshi and Damdred. I am only here to learn the ways of the low count poster. Well, I guess I am already failing, but w/e. What is different between what I did, and what Gumshoe did? [5][5/5, No more fluff posts  ] | ||
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On April 20 2016 08:11 DoYouHas wrote: You expressed an opinion about Plynching and then joke-scummed Damdred. The opinion has nothing to do with Damdred, he just prompted it. Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye. Long explanation for a small feeling, but whatever. Hmm, for me it read off as him just trying to get the ball rolling. Also his follow-up reasoning (primarily about scum wanting people to waste post) i like. On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote: It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game. While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game. SL is obviously null Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons) LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum. , Dumb internet. Made me unexist.On April 20 2016 14:38 Tumblewood wrote: Shape, why did you use Damdred's obvious joke as an opportunity to discuss plynches? I know that he mentioned them, but your post was a non sequitur still. Please explain. Wtf does non-sequitur mean lol? Mainly because I could. Kush left a bad taste with P-lynches in my month, and i have a vendetta against them. Really also wasn't discussing it, so much as giving my opinion on it (If i did, my post would of been half a page lol.) And slightly because there was nothing else to do, discusion wise lol. | ||
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On April 20 2016 21:56 Half the Sky wrote: 2/40 My concern with Tumbleweed lies in 101 and 110. The gist of it is that he is posting for the sake of posting and the questions are very open-ended with the argument that the information he's getting from it will not be helpful with determining alignments. 101 The comment on Shapelog is clearly answered if he'd read the thread - Shapelog by his own admission said his first five posts - of which one was quoted - was fluff. So he's asking a question already answered. It's possible town can neglect to read carefully but lets proceed to the next point. The comment on Lightning Strike was bad (and this is part of why I this LS could be mafia) - it is townreading LS for a poor reason. LS in the quoted statement says Tictock "blatantly" doesn't want to stir up discussion - Tictock may not want to post if he has nothing to contribute ESPECIALLY in a post-restricted game. So for him to take an NAI point and paint it as mafia indicative is poor, and by extension the townread is poor. 110 Same concern as in 101, non sequitur means illogical (more or less) so placing that expectation within the first few posts of the game is just meh. It seems forced. Moving on to LS, which is easily explained. Post 96 is a poor reason (or at least a weak reason) to townread Gumshoe, or at least the reason he gave. As stated before my bigger concern is with post 101 though, trying to make something that is alignment indicative which isn't necessarily so. Yeah, I noticed the fact he was small twisting things as I am reading. The question thing I feel like could come from either alignment (even with the info in the thread) from tumble, as his style is to open up with some...questionable questions lol. Usually, he becomes easier for me to read later into the game, as his motives are clearer and such, and his thought process becomes easier for me to see. TT post irked me a bit yes because considering the start of the game I would expect him to try to stir up discussion sooner rather than later due to post restrictions :\ He did come back though. Which is good. As someone who just rolled scum with TT, this is very different. In storm (Team rebels 4 life) TT has/had been suffering from rolling scum a lot, which reflected in his play. He was moot. In fact, he posted something simlar as a opening here, and never follow threw. Even in Devil, he wasn't this quick with reads or anything (IIRC). Most of the first 24 hours were him joking. with me in particular. I still going through his read list to see if anything stands out. | ||
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I don't know what to make of Hts's vote. Some of it sounds like she is still trying to figure you out + Show Spoiler + Look at people like sicklucker and Fecalfeast, those two are hanging back to some extent - and Koshi even mentioned the same - so from your perspective why the double standard or at least why not take note of them? in a way. So the timing is a bit off IMO. On April 20 2016 23:57 Tumblewood wrote: Shape is dangerously close to a "disappointing answers" scumread. HtS is throwing me off because he's (she's?) scumreading me and LS and those are the only two people I'm thinking are town so far. The arguments feel a bit stretched but so is everything at this stage. Null for now but will become a scumread if this continues. Go ahead and scum read me. Makes me better as town HtS is a female lol. So she has different opinions then you. That is a normal game of mafia, and I don't think that really is reason to be sus. of people. Also, lol, you think you are town ^^? Also followup, nothing strucked me off while reading TT's read list. [7] | ||
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On April 21 2016 00:19 Half the Sky wrote: 5/40 FYI, yes I am (the lone) female in this game. Why is LS town? Aside from (potentially) myself, and Shape as mentioned, as scumreads, Tumbleweed, why are you not townreading or leaning some of the others? Particularly Damdred, Koshi and Tictock and the content that they've produced? At the very least I'm curious to hear on this. Are you actually scumreading anyone else? Additionally, are you suggesting that how I am scumreading you is coming from a scum point of view? I have never played with you before so that is what I tend to do with unfamiliar players if I find something questionable. You shouldn't have to ask that question. You should already know. You even wrote about it on why you don't like tumble. The comment on Lightning Strike was bad (and this is part of why I this LS could be mafia) - it is townreading LS for a poor reason. LS in the quoted statement says Tictock "blatantly" doesn't want to stir up discussion - Tictock may not want to post if he has nothing to contribute ESPECIALLY in a post-restricted game. So for him to take an NAI point and paint it as mafia indicative is poor, and by extension the townread is poor. I finally get to do it before Gumshoe | ||
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Anyways, I've done my rounds in my other game. I skimmed tbh to this point right now (about to cook/eat dinner) and this is just some things I noted. * LS has fucking used almost 25 posts. And roughly about the time I wrote this statement, it is 24 hours in. I wouldn't usually mind LS spam, but he is chewing through them like hot cakes. like for him to try to condense it down. *GB has posted about SL. And that is still it. I want him to expand a little bit. He also seems to ignore Tumble/someone's post responding about if SL was serious or not. I feel like with the focus he is giving to SL, he should of responded to those (at least IMO)  YH and SL are silentOther than that, nothing strikes me off the bat. After Dinner I look at things more closely. [10? idk, I just say 10] | ||
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On April 21 2016 07:43 Half the Sky wrote: 12/40 I was going to make a post about you possibly being scum and then I lost it in all the tabs I have open here - I'm reading your filter and you don't have concrete reads on ANYONE. I mean you investigated Tictock and you deferred on Tumble, but some of the others? I would have expected you by at least post 135 to have at LEAST scumread me based on my interactions with you, but you didn't even do that, Koshi's first scumread on me came about an hour after you hedged (yes I checked timestamps). You've made these observations but I don't feel they are adding anything of value to the discussion alignment wise. I've also been the elephant in the room, so to speak....and you've said jack all on me. It because I don't really have a solid read so far (mainly because I am noticing when I play town, most of my reads are impersonaive and flip flopy if I do not have a list of sorts.) Maybe Koshi, (town) but that is about it. I have scumleans/sus. and vis veria, but that is about it. I had sus. on you (due to the contradiction) at the time of the post. I also had 1 min from the time you posted it to get the fuck out of the computer lab at my college so I wouldn't be late for class. So, I posted why I was sus. of you (I.E. the contradiction) and would follow up later. There also was a * I left off as well, because I need to look back more closely that directly related to you. It was about how quickly/ok the thread felt was that you were getting lynch, which made me think you are town (I called it a little spike or something) | ||
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On April 21 2016 08:08 GlowingBear wrote: 6 Oops, wrong quotation. It was supposed to be the post where HTS is putting a finger of suspicion on me. Shapelog also said something about ignoring Tumblewood. I ignored because I simply don't trust he can possibly know what SL was thinking. It is simple as that. What? "Shape said something about ignoring tumblewood, I ignored b/c he can't know what SL was thinking?" I don't understand GB... I said that it's easier for me to read Tumble as the game progresses. Idk where SL comes in here. Slightly sus. after a dive on damdred. Mostly for a small contradiction lol. On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote: It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game. While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game. SL is obviously null Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons) LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum. On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote: LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum. On April 21 2016 07:06 Damdred wrote: And this is different than every other game how? Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow. It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately. I don't understand the process of: "Scum likes wasting posts" -> "Ls, your overusing posts [...] (FF)" -> "this is different than every other game how?" Kinda nickpicky though I admit. Also, I will be back (posting wise) later tonight. [11 prob.] | ||
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![[image loading]](http://cfe.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/A-New-Kind-of-Morning_-Photo.png) Morning brew reads b/c I feel asleep last night and tired as crap. Also kinda in a shitting mood with the Life thing, even though I knew about 87% that he was going to get convicted. Life's hard: Town Tortoises: Koshisus, Feels like koshisus I know (disregarding that I never played with a scum Koshi lol) and sometimes hate. I know that Koshi is lazy as scum, so the fact that he is posting (and with good content too) makes me think he is town. Town lean Tortoises: Fidei69: I think I played with this guy. Back when He rolled scum with NM and kmart (if that was him.) If so I SHALL NOT BE FOOLED AGAIN! I like a lot of his posts, and more so the way he is going around the game. I wouldn't lynch him D1 Tumble, Liking his early d1 so far, And nothing stands out majorly to me (things always ink me to a small point, which is why I usually wait till after the D1 lynch to read him.) He doesn't seem to be single minded (X is scum, Hey X etc.) either. HTS,* I could be completely wrong on this tbh, as looking at things such as swings on votes and what not aren't particularity my strong suit. However, there was a little swing I noticed around the time people started thinking HTS was scum (including me) and no one really was against it at all. 8 (not counting sky) people active in the thread/voiced some kind of sus. around the time that wagon got traction and before people starting changing minds. 2 people defended here (or at least town read her) FF, and Cum. Cum said why he think HTS was town, while FF IIRC just called her town. No one really wasn't against it except Cum. I still have some sus. on her, but that makes me think she is town based off of that. FF A nickel! I've played with guy once (cell) and that has been it really (also he was 50/50 confrimed by it so lol). Based off of pure feels he feels town. Can't explain why though. Might look at scum games and educate myself on him later if I get time. Tortoises of no color In no order DYH: Nothing I am seeing is making think he is town or scum. The sheeping thing caught my eye, but makes sense if HTS is his top town read. Would like to see more out of him. Also his opinion on LS, since LS is the main one pushing Sky, his top town read. Damdred: Yeah it seems that I misread the conversation like damdred said. So he goes back to null. Reason he is here is that he really hasn't done anything that makes me want to "wow." He also feels more lazy then he did in storm. LS: 1st off, On April 21 2016 22:44 LightningStrike wrote: Rolf she just claimed scum gfuys. There is always one scum within me and HTS. HTS I challenge you to a 1v1 Death Match winner takes all this phase. I am ignored at this, since last game he did this, they both flipped town. He issued Rik. this challenged Day 5? and ok, meh reasoning behind it. But here it is Day 1, and he already has issue death match... Idk why he does this at all. And really makes no sense as either alignment here...Again. The difference I note is that this was a reply to a point HTS made (I only refreshed the page from this morning like 5 mins ago, and LS is my last read to do bear this in mind). Which feels like he is deflecting the point Sky made. + Show Spoiler [tinfoil about the Death battlleeeeeeee…] + Maybe he is doing this to get TR due to him just doing this as town last game. It looks the same at a glace, yet actually has a different context. I can't prove this, but just a feeling. I typically don't find LS hard to read in general (not so much like other people) but I am having difficulty here reading him. For insistence, I can see a town and scum LS tunneling here or for that matter, for most of his posts, doing what he has done here as either alignment (minus the death battle.) So he is going to the scummy side of null for right now. Gum, 4 raxing, Early game lines up with storm intro (Mountains out of Moleholes). Activity has faded a bit, which concerns me. The Champion thread reference also felt funky a bit. Also On April 21 2016 04:05 Koshi wrote: I understand that you could be town and do the things the way you did as town. But I don't understand why. 1) I put pressure on FF. 2) You say 5 lines about FF that say NOTHING AT ALL. DOES NOT FURTHER THE GAME AT ALL. TAKES PRESSURE AWAY FROM FF. And just undermines my pressure. 3) You do this for no apparent good reason because you are completely null on FF. at this juncture people are offering thier thoughts on everyone and everything, not everyone is playing as guarded and deliberate as you koshi. (Ironically your poise is actually drawing attention / Oh and no ones stopping you from pressuring ff, nor does anyone owe you an obligation to let you do so. Reads off to me as a attacking tone, based off the "not everyone is playing as guarded and deliberate as you koshi." It also sounds like it came from this guys mouth. ![[image loading]](https://www.wow247.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Merovingian-matrix.gif) And I hate that guy. Like that guy made me not want to be french. Dear god. He's null mostly for the mountain out of molehills so far. and the fact that (i've looked at his meta) he is lazy as scum. While the mountain things = town. Here he is showing both. Also called me a damm cunt. Is he going to make my genital bleed like that girl in the matrix? Fucking Gumrovingian. Redish Tortoises TT pretty Meh right now. Was on a scum burnout during storm, badly burnout. Hes been pretty silent since the case, but the fact he wrote a case kinda makes me like him a bit. Though, the case itself seems a tad bit weak after I reread it. Primary the weak read on LS (townie can have weak reads...) and some of the posts where he isn't suppose to be paying attention. Then the I would lynch X without giving any reasoning. He is here because it has been almost 20 hours since his last post....Which fits with the burnout now that I think about it. SaltShaker Kinda debating putting him in the scum lean cat. (I did) I would expect him to do more after saying most people are going to wait to post (his 3rd post.) Also this post really doesn't give much if you look at it: Dont want to lynch Ls hes so cute and trying hard Ticktock is looking really strong I do want to lynch koshi but hes probably town. Not sure I can do another koshi game Gum probably town from what I know about him FF was not even in the top 3 people for wasting posts early so im not sure why hes being attacked. Hts seems over defensive but maybe thats just the koshi factor wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one I want to lynch gb a lil for this posts A lot of his town reads aren't really explained (TT) and just feels rushed in a way. He is kinda avoids a read on 3 people (talks about FF, but doesn't actually really gives a read, more so on the threads interaction on FF) (HTS statement was pretty none positional) (and I have really no clue what he means on mine lol) He also doesn't seem to go after anyone other than GB. And focuses on GB on his next post. GB, Want to relook after I was promised a big catch up post, guessing where he is going to expand that I am guessing will come out today since he said the weds. were bad for him. His case on SL wasn't the greatest tbh after I read some last night. And the only other thing he has done is my meta point on tumble that he confused with something about SL in there. So we know he has read to around page 8 1/2, since that is when sky talks about GB's post. And is strange that he still had some what of a fixation on SL at that point of time ( I. E. my meta thing). And seems oblivious to anything else going on at page 8 and 1/2. Activity doesn't bother me from him as well, since I remember him being inactive as either alignments. | ||
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On April 22 2016 01:00 Tictock wrote: A few people asked why I left SL out of my "lynch list" earlier. It's weak but I felt like his first couple of posts were him trying to get the game going by throwing out an early vote. His last post reacting to GB's push felt kinda genuine as well. His list post wasn't terrible and I kinda doubt he'd back off LS with the reasoning "hes so cute and trying hard" as scum. So while SL is being very low key this game I'm not feeling like that is scum indicative. Feeling ok about Fidei now as well. He seems like he is invested in solving the game. I think HtS is town. Everything she's been posting looks to me like she is trying to question and evaluate people fairly. The only thing I see people scum reading her for was for her saying that activity is a bad way to read FF (she's right, it's usually a bad metric for anyone since both alignments can be lazy). I just don't see it, and she is putting out loads on content and several of her points have mirrored my own thinking so I'm inclined to believe she is town. At the very least I think she is a terrible D1 lynch given the effort/content she is making. I think I'm going to take a nap or something then try to reread this game since it's pretty short. Right now I'm inclined to think scum is in: Shapelog - None of his posts have stuck out to me, he's kinda background noise LS - Just feels off, feels like he's wasting posts and has very little to actually add Tumblewood - that post where he says "me and LS are the people I'm thinking are town" really bugs me, and I really don't get why he's so sure on that townread on LS. GB - All I see is him doing is tunneling SL for a silly point that never makes him mafia. Tbh though I'm not really confident in any of my reads right now. Kinda thinking it might be a good idea to lynch into people who are not really contributing just so that later days become a bit easier and the game stays active. GB would be my pick if we go that route. I really do not understand this. You had a case on Tumble, Has anything changed then from your case on Tumble -> this post? Because you felt like he was scum enough to vote in that post, and now you are not confident in the read here. And what sus. I can tell (obv I am not in your head) you have on him from now to the case is this: Which wasn't a huge part of your case. So I am kinda confused. On April 22 2016 01:06 GlowingBear wrote: How much time do we have until deadline? How much time do I have to wait till that post ? Almost as bad as damdred "bomb" from nut (which I am still waiting for FYI)About 5 hours from the time of this post Seriously, people are TRing me for bad reasons left right and centre. Dani's explanation was basically "I don't use OGI in giving reads". TT didn't even give one. Shape's was "Lol he was scum last time". ?. That wasn't my reasoning, I just inculded that to be funny. I think I played with this guy. Back when He rolled scum with NM and kmart (if that was him.) If so I SHALL NOT BE FOOLED AGAIN! I like a lot of his posts, and more so the way he is going around the game. I wouldn't lynch him D1 To be specific: Tone wise: The post where you were admitting to nothing, and moveover the post about LS curse. And this post. As I don't know of a scum who would go like that Content wise: #221 & #226. | ||
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On April 22 2016 03:01 GlowingBear wrote: Unfortunately I'm busier than I thought I'd be. So I won't be playing today. I'm sorry. I'm town, again. Please don't make the same mistake you guys have been doing these latest 3 games I was in. I'm voting with Damdred because he is my strongest townread atm NO! YOU WILL NOT PULL A GOD DAMM DAMDRED BOMB (AND VOTE WITH DAMDRED FOR MAX. BM) ON ME! Ok your busy, can you Please Explain the DYH and Damdred reads and any other reads you have. Do not do this to me dwag! [16prob.] | ||
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On April 22 2016 03:05 GlowingBear wrote: WOW what a horrible spread. I think I'll try to put some effort while I have these 15 minutes to spare. Brb Ninja'ed | ||
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The Votes are pretty spread guys. Kinda goes me worrying at a first glace. Also, nothing going heavily on right now (in terms of moving things around) also got me thinking. | ||
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On April 22 2016 05:45 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure why SL jeeps somehow avoiding people's lists, he's almost done the least amount in game and hasn't posted in forever. Besides that I am curious how tumble has such a hard town read on gb in this situation? Agreed with SL. He doesn't seem really here much, and that last post from him wasn't great either. | ||
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On April 22 2016 04:08 Tictock wrote: Napped longer than I expected. That reads post from GB actually seems pretty good after a quick read. A bit hesitent to call him town though because I've seen him screw around and save his effort for EoD before as scum. Still his thoughts felt pretty coherent and reasonsble ... Idk I think I'll reevalueate after rereading the game. @HtS About the time. I asked FF whathis thoughts on Damdred where I glanced back at his filter myself. I got the sense that his early posts where half joking half stirring up discussion which made me lean town. Since then I haven't gotten any strong feels off him. The posts I quoted from Tumble about GB felt off to me since Tumble jumped in early on to tell GB that he was joking, but then called GB's case on SL "solid thinking" when it was about the same thing he was saying was a joke earlier. Then he caught that and retracted that read a bit. It came off to me like Tumble wasn't paying attention to what GB was talking about there even though he was around when GB first started questioning those posts from SL. @ Shape, My read on Tumble hasn't really changed. That line just continues to bug me kus it's a weird thing for town to say. He basically said he considers LS to be as towny as himself, which either means hes totally sure LS is town or that he's not really thinking of himself as town. That is what I thought first as well, but then accepted the fact that the body of text was referring as "LS i think is town, and I know I am town." I mean, it really wouldn't make sense for scum to write it either, even if they are partners. At least in my mind. Especially that early on, to call someone (who he has played with before, and knows LS and his nature)) as town as him makes no sense on the front. Another question if you don't mind, If you had to pick to be most confident in lynching and flipping scum, who would you pick and why? | ||
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GB, I like his latest posts. And kinda fufilled some sus. form him. TT, has posted more. Though there is something I need to check. SL has done nothing really. I also thought by now that Gum would show up and post by now. | ||
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My reasoning in my list + Still not being here Might not stay, (as I am still looking at things) but is where my heart is. | ||
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I do not understand why FF was open to a HTS vote. On April 21 2016 07:10 Fecalfeast wrote: You're right, it's been a while I guess. I'll never pass up a chance to lynch SL, especially if he's being lazy On April 22 2016 01:47 Fecalfeast wrote: I would like to vote and lynch sicklucker if he doesn't come back. HTS you're giving me weird tone feels right now it feels like you're talking down to everyone but maybe that's just me having only been awake 10 minutes He hasn't come back. So logic says that SL should be his lynched for today. On April 22 2016 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Pssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ##vote sicklucker frig off damdred On April 22 2016 06:42 Fecalfeast wrote: I would vote HTS Even though he did have sus. towards HTS. i do not understand why he thinks another vote without giving reasoning behind it. FF basically said "no show = vote" yet he is still looking at other lynches. It feels a bit opportunistic, and is really concerning if Sl gets lynched and flips scum. I feel like the first few posts was just him talking to talk, but now his person is getting lynched (other than LS, which by the time he posted the sky comment, was still before he went with damdred.) | ||
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On April 22 2016 07:14 Fecalfeast wrote: I'd really prefer to play later in the game where it's easier to make reads. I've posted reads when I had them. I'd really prefer if you look and explain my second to last post. | ||
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On April 22 2016 07:21 Fecalfeast wrote: lol so saying that I'd vote SL if he doesn't show up means I am bound to doing that for the rest of the phase? I don't like the way HTS is addressing people and the tone with which I read her posts is different from the way I remember her posting as town. I don't understand why you voted for him, then about 30 mins later (IIRC) when a sky lynch talk happens, you say "i would vote HTS." It doesn't make sense to me. | ||
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This swing thou. | ||
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On April 22 2016 07:36 Damdred wrote: Shape why did you vote ff when you were so worried about the swing etc. I didn't really have time to change my vote tbh. My vote was before the VC (Host prob. didn't see it) and after I saw it, I saw how quicky the wagon formed. I was thinking about it, but time ran out. If I had more mins. I prob. could of changed votes. but with 1 and 1/2 mins to go, and a bunch of things going on I got flustered. | ||
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Some of you are asking me about my vote. The reason I switch is because the "I would vote HTS" post didn't make sense to me. Then I cast my vote for FF. After I saw the VC (which came after the deadline) I made the commit about it being swing, but by that time, time was up for me. As my clock was ahead by a min (6:29). that is basically it. If i had more Time i would argue and switch but I didn't | ||
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Primary The first 2 really aren't associative with SL at all really IMO. They are calling FF out on something that I am guessing TW missed while reading FF. (this is after the read list via time stamp) I understand #315 and the last. The last two is kinda weird on themselves. (the change) I can kinda understand Tumble also about the opinion on FF part. I feel he said that because people were calling him scum for things at the time (while SL wasn't heavily talked about) and he felt like he should have a opinion on him. have to relook though. | ||
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Catching up. | ||
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On April 25 2016 07:16 Fidei86 wrote: SHAAAAPPPEEE BROOOO you gotta vote in the next five minutes or so so we can have a sensible discussion about consolidating. I JUST GOT OUT OF FUCKING JAIL AND HOME GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK! | ||
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I voted DYH because I can't remember anything other than the sus. about him and that is about it. Still reading thoy | ||
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Personally, just skimming through GB's fliter, I like it a bit more than DYH. | ||
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Gj guys, lets end this tomorrow. going to catch up on everything I've missed. | ||
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Some thoughts on the game. I thought gb, after reading, he actually was on during the time the DYH lynch started, yet he declared afk status about 15 mins before LS's post about wanting to lynch DYH. And his next post is a few hours after the lynch. If it was what I thought it was (He was here while the DYH was getting pushed) then I would TR him for not standing up and defending. Anyways, Gb was focused on SL early on, yet I can see both sides of the coin doing it. Yet the prob (and this has prob. been said, do not care) I have is SL. SL only written person he wanted to lynch D1 was GB On April 21 2016 09:30 sicklucker wrote: Dont want to lynch Ls hes so cute and trying hard Ticktock is looking really strong I do want to lynch koshi but hes probably town. Not sure I can do another koshi game Gum probably town from what I know about him FF was not even in the top 3 people for wasting posts early so im not sure why hes being attacked. Hts seems over defensive but maybe thats just the koshi factor wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one I want to lynch gb a lil for this posts He clearly missed the many posts by me and my comrades that my post ment nothing. I guess me or HTS he was keeping options open for. Anyways, So SL wanted to lynch GB, and posts this right afterwards: On April 21 2016 09:31 sicklucker wrote: Gb do you or do you not just always push me everytime you get a red pm in the inbox? SL then goes afk, GB posts some things about reads and such. So maybe, scum!SL changed his mind on GB. On April 22 2016 07:21 sicklucker wrote: 1 . Cant even remember I got 5 minutes. He had good long posts early when I read the game idk 2. He was quite active for him and doing his usual routine like hes town 3. vote him then? Dont read his posts at all see storm qt 4. gb pushes me everygame as scum. I think thats pretty plane as day. he pushes me quite alot as town tho but he has a 100% rate over a pretty big sample of games 20_ of always trying to lynch me but never succeeding. probably why I dont respect his scum game despite it having a good win percentage Nope, he didn't. TT is a bit high on his list, for reasons he has trouble remembering. Noteing and moving on. What is interesting to me though, is that SL obv. spent his time arguing for his survival, yet had a scum read (GB) that he could push from a scum perspective. And with the votes: On April 22 2016 07:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vote Count: Fecalfeast (6) - Tumblewood, Koshi, Damdred, Gumshoe, Half the Sky, Shapelog Half the Sky (2) - LightningStrike, sicklucker LightningStrike (1) - GlowingBear Tumblewood (1) - Tictock Gumshoe (1) - Fidei86 Shapelog (1) - DoYouHas Damdred (1) - Fecalfeast At the current vote, Fecalfeast is to be lynched. until deadline. On April 22 2016 07:31 Hapahauli wrote: Final Vote Count: Fecalfeast (5) - Tumblewood, Koshi, Gumshoe, Half the Sky, Shapelog Half the Sky (2) -LightningStrike, Damdred Koshi (1) - SickluckerTroll vote LightningStrike (1) - GlowingBear Tumblewood (1) - Tictock Gumshoe (1) - Fidei86 Shapelog (1) - DoYouHas Damdred (1) - Fecalfeast So HTS was a weird vote tbh. GB was much higher in his lynch list, even stated points again that would make him scum again. Really out of place in terms of reads and what not. + note the open option he had on me and HTS. Idk, the fact that SL voted HTS (for being a lady killer?) over someone that he scum read makes no sense. The lynch was basically set at the time HTS was voted for too as well. What is even more damming is the fact that two mafia basically off wagon vote. Which is strange tbh. It could be that mafia was a course fine with the wagon, which makes sense. But 2 mafia off wagoning (at the end), is quite strange tbh. 3 other people (Fidei86, TT, and GB) all also solo wagoned as well (for a total of 5 off wagons) Then you got the people who voted for the people on the main wagon, Koshi, Gumshoe, Half the Sky and Me. Which, when I get more time, I look back at these people around the time of the start of the FF wagon. D2: VC: On April 25 2016 07:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Final Votecount - Day 2: DoYouHas (5) - LightningStrike, Fidei86, Koshi, Shapelog, TicTock GlowingBear (2) - gumshoe (1) - Koshi (2) - Shapelog (0) - Tumblewood (0) - DoYouHas is slated to be lynched. Ik someone made the agurement that Scum needed a ML here, and they associative read DYH and GB together that way. I kinda feel if that was the case though, that they would pick someone more like Gum to push, especially since Gum A) was easier to ML (guy basically voted for himself lol) and B) because anyone could have change his reads tbh to get him lynched. And the Gum was already in bad stands according to DYH. It also doesn't seem really realistic for them in the case to do that, as KOshi wasn't on top of enough peoples lynch list. There is also another one, in which someone said something about GB (maybe it was Gum) carrying the team, which is kinda meh considering the fact of the AFK time. Actually, it is kinda weird that he was sus. of Gum enough to say that he needed to get lynched, yet he didn't push. Hmm, I get to it in the DYH part of this post. The only real throw away vote tbh (I guess you could argue that GB is a bit throwy, yet it isn't solo) is from suppose vig (which btw, I trust his claim since him breadcrumbing and quick claim after sus. makes sense after dieing last game due to not claiming. I.E. Makes sense for him to be breadcrumbing and what not) So nothing there. Things I saw in DYH filter I've read his Filter, and this is some things I see.
There is actually a lot more pointing to GB than anyone else actually. Like I knew a lot pointed to him, but damm. The HTS vote from SL D1 over GB also seems a bit weird to me as well. I am going to reread some more filters. Primarily Gum and TT and maybe Fidei86. Koshi I feel strongly town btw. + Show Spoiler [OH YEAH] + Meta points on me have my 100% stamp of approveal. Also lol at tumble about me not spamming. + Show Spoiler + Guess I got to make it up huh?+ Show Spoiler + Maybeeee+ Show Spoiler + Forty spoilers shall do right?+ Show Spoiler + Idk, I might get ban+ Show Spoiler + Eh I got away with it before+ Show Spoiler + Are you actually reading this?+ Show Spoiler + Bad boy+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + Dammit go away!+ Show Spoiler + Go+ Show Spoiler + Da+ Show Spoiler + Fuq+ Show Spoiler + Away+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + Lets Play a game.+ Show Spoiler + ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXfAtckS3g + Show Spoiler + What you going to DO BROTHER, WHEN THE SHAPELOG CLAIMS MEH!+ Show Spoiler + Meh is a great role+ Show Spoiler + Meh+ Show Spoiler + Meh+ Show Spoiler + Meh>+ Show Spoiler + Meh?+ Show Spoiler + MEH!+ Show Spoiler + Almost there!+ Show Spoiler + oops, your main was open+ Show Spoiler + Some lings got in+ Show Spoiler + Well a lot+ Show Spoiler + 89+ Show Spoiler + No workers left+ Show Spoiler + SHIT YOU GOT TEMPEST+ Show Spoiler + THIS IS BULL+ Show Spoiler + TOSS OP TOSS OP+ Show Spoiler + BLACK HAWK DOWN! BLACK HARK DOWN!!!!!!!!+ Show Spoiler + GJ, You wasted your life.+ Show Spoiler + But gain....+ Show Spoiler + A COOKIE! ![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Choc-Chip-Cookie.jpg) | ||
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Quick reply though But in his filter it doesn't make sense. Reading his filter, he was on Koshi all cycle. But town were consolidating on DYH, and yet he was voting Koshi with DYH even after he said he was uncomfortable with DYH's play. GB also being off the wagon would also fit with him just having zero influence, or clearly not enough influence to get Koshi lynched, I know I definitely came around to the point on day 2 I wasn't going to lynch him. Like I feel with everything else pointing to him, I cannot ignore that possibility. By the time town considtation (I am using LS post about wanting to lynch DYH more), GB had already declared afkiness. About DYH: this is his reasoning (I went to find it) On April 25 2016 05:27 GlowingBear wrote: Oh DYH. If you're Mafia you've just pocketed me with your sexy, sexy support to my case. ##Unvote ##vote: Koshi IT is kinda meh tbh. Not totally great reason to drop sus. on anyone. Thou, I can see town doing this (and have seen town doing this) | ||
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![[image loading]](http://49.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8yygk2w2l1rvydimo1_250.gif) but I feel like ![[image loading]](http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzEwLzA0Lzk2L3RpcmVkY2F0LjBjYTQyLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg4NTA-CmUJanBn/94328f4e/258/tired-cat.jpg) Finishing this post that I started around the time I said I had 10 mins. Koshi narrative + my want anyways to read Fidei86 filter + Time = this, Also, I guess Koshi is stuck on the whole overlord(s) thing now. Grovey. On April 25 2016 05:51 Fidei86 wrote: Do we think Shape's voting exhonerates him? If he were scum, if he'd managed to be on a wagon on scum that then got overtaken by a town wagon, I don't see why you'd then flip onto a town wagon at the last moment. That's just way too much weird play to make sense from a scum perspective. Unfortunately, that also means that DYH's play makes a lot more sense. So I'm at Town: LS, Shape, TW Confused about their voting right now: Koshi, gumshoe No particular reason to lynch: DYH Not scum as not pushing me???: HTS, TT ??? GB This is really a Interesting post to be quite honest. This is before the defensive posts and what not btw. idk what to make of quite honestly. It integrates me that he has listed that he does not have a particular reason to lynch DYH, defends and then posts this: On April 25 2016 06:57 Fidei86 wrote: Dani, how can Shape be mafia. What mafia gets onto a bussing wagon, then stays on it until AFTER another wagon has formed and is hitting town, to get onto the ML. That just makes no sense to me. DYH though, I could dig. I'm going to re-read his filter again. after not talking about why he was voting him. And I can't really find a change, in terms of reads, when I look at that part of the filter or even afterwards. Most of his talk towards it was about why he wouldn't do it as scum (afterwards). But, Noir taught me that not everyone labels everything down (Yammty for example.) I feel like if I knew the top part, it would be more helpful, as I currently know more reasons why he TR DYH that day instead of why he wanted him to be lynched. Annoyly, I want it. Then you got the points Koshi made, about the consolidation (idc if this is spelled right or not to be honest), I agree with most of his points tho, this one I kinda have mix feelings about. On April 25 2016 07:22 Fidei86 wrote: Can people please get their shit together and vote now. If nobody else is switching I need to decide which of GB / gum / Koshi to lynch. As this does make sense, in line with a mindset to consolidation with town, as that would mean that he doesn't want the wagons to be split heavily. Therefore, he would change vote in this serine. I think. Anyways, looking pasted the "great" associative/vote powers I have. The rest of his filter, -Pretty defensive tbh. I prob. glace at his scum games on record to see if this is a trend or not. I understand him wanting credit for what he did if he is town, yet it seems extreme, and even happen before Day2 (VC from D1) -Rollercoaster read progression on HTS. Like his hands goes up and down no matter what (you get a cookie if you get the reference) There is more, just don't feel like quoting it all On April 23 2016 23:33 Fidei86 wrote: Having read back through the filters, I've sort of talked myself back round on HTS and TT. There is a lot lot of suspicious stuff in their filters, but nobody else seems to see the link / soft defending I see, and I may just be paranoid. Both have had some pretty good analysis since the D2 flip. And as I said before, SL went after HTS pretty hard in circumstances where it was more than possible she might actually become a target. As I said before, if Dani makes it to D4ish, I'm going to get the mega tin foil out. But for now, I'm okay with her as town. TW is town obviously. I'm pretty sold on LS as town, actually. The issue I have now is that all of Shape, GB and DYH have been particularly underwhelming. I'd put shape at the higher end of that, but DYH and GB have been borderline useless. I think looking carefully at their filters, which I'll do now, is likely to yield dividends in terms of solving this game. (Yes, I accept I just flipped on my two top scum reads, was wrong on Damdred and SL and have also been very questionable this game. But I know I'm town, so there). On April 25 2016 07:53 Fidei86 wrote: I think I have three posts left, so I want to use one of them to say that there is no f'ing reason whatsoever to TR TT or HTS. I'm going to go Dani -- TT -- GB -- you. But honestly I think if it is one of them, they'll tap out long before we get there. But it went from top town -> scum -> town again -> scum again -> 1st lynch option -> "HEY, PAYASO (HTS), Don't you clown me!" while she was scum -> wtf it is now. Super flip floply. -Sus. on TT -Plays CS, then complains about having to skip practice. Not trying to be a dick here, but...procrastination isn't great skill to have. Trust me, I know (college) Well I still procrastinate, but, I am trying to save you. | ||
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On April 28 2016 05:14 Fidei86 wrote: This is my filter from NSM XVIII. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/500060-newbie-student-mafia-xviii?user=Fidei86 This is my filter from SoTW 2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Fidei86 Please look at them before you commit to voting for me. I really think it could be TT - him having made "good posts" does not and cannot make up for his extremely anti-town play at EOD1. HEY, Speak of the devil. Giving meh his meta. | ||
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On April 28 2016 05:30 Fidei86 wrote: Fuck it. I am the Jailkeeper. I saved Damdred N1 (I got roleblocked) and Tumble N2. I saved Damdred right at the end of N1 - I was on HTS before that, because I figured she's strong town and a natural N1), but at the end I thought Damdred was a) more towny, b) more universally read as townie and therefore c) most likely to be the shot. I was fucking raging after Damdred flipped. I sent Artanis like three PMs yelling. I did not want to claim because we desperately need a save to get another mislynch and avoid 3v1 LYLO. The reason I've played like this is in large part because I thought that my killing DYH was SO TOWNIE that I might be the shot N3. And I really wanted to survive long enough to save TW. Obviously me drawing attention to myself worked too well. I am claiming now to give town enough time to find a new lynch. I think it should be TT. Can you please all now start thinking about the game rather than just waiving through this fucking mislynch on me. Welp, Guess I do not need to read meta, unless CC happens. On April 28 2016 05:31 Koshi wrote: Ok Shape. Are you jailkeeper? You said something about being in jail. Or are you a blue? No, I was actually fucking arrested for public intoxication, hence why I wasn't here at all Day 2 | ||
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On April 28 2016 05:34 Tictock wrote: Felt like it was stupid for SL to go "why are you lynching me?" rather than doing something, so I was telling him he should probably do something. Not that I expect you to believe me, but I was thinking about swapping to SL but when everyone started to shift to FF (who I didn't want to lynch) I decided to just stay put on Tumble. I think this was the post I made when that was my thinking. Which you are free to WIFOM as me having TMI calling out exactly what SL was doing, and to further that WIFOM I give you this post I made N1 I think my response to your other post covers this one too. Though saying I had a real town read on FF is overstating things, he was off my list of D1 lynches for sure though. Actually thanks for quoting this one, means I had decent reads D1 with the 2 flipped scum in my lynch pool. + Show Spoiler + For more WIFOM I am known to bus as scum. I..Do not understand...The point of this post. Defense by WIFOM? | ||
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On April 28 2016 05:48 Half the Sky wrote: 26/40 It could have been a way of buddying/disassociation. I think people on this site are inclined to not look as hard at people who are townreading them, but that's just my opinion. Personally I'm more inclined to scumread someone either softpushing someone or not following through on a read, as opposed to townreading or scumreading them. Like look at the non-reads/deferral of read he had on sicklucker. That's what I'm talking about. Sometimes scum do hard defend someone to make it look like they are invested in the game, but I think the manner in which it's done isn't alignment indicative. Didn't you tell me to lose the paranoia of looking into town reads from peeps after rik in nut? | ||
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On April 28 2016 04:21 GlowingBear wrote: 29 I must say, although as weird as it sounds, that I'm starting to believe TT is the last Mafia. Does anyone understand why? Didn't he say something earlier about having time to play or something? I mean as long as he shows up in a bit, I really do not think it is much, | ||
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On April 28 2016 06:20 Koshi wrote: Shape. Why are you town this game? Can you tell me? Because some dutch guy name artanis either use a program or a deck of cards to determine alignments, and I got the VT pulled once, thus explaining the reason, upon which I got a green pm in the inbox? A course, I do not think this is what you meant. Meh, as scum, my tone is this: As town it is this: Also, I prob. would of capsulize today based off the town reads I''ve gotten (which is kinda meh tbh IMO) to propel myself into a game winning situation. | ||
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On April 28 2016 06:15 GlowingBear wrote: Rofl You've called ME town the whole game and now that I called you Mafia you dropped your case on fidei and is gladly voting me It is TT, guys. I think this is pretty self explanatory GB why he did that.... Also, note that GB has posted, and thus no one has CCed | ||
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On April 28 2016 06:31 Fidei86 wrote: There was, I don't know, A BLUE CLAIM BY HIS TARGET. Don't you think that changes things???????? GOD DAMM FUCKING NINJAS ![[image loading]](http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/21/ninja-gif-31.gif) | ||
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On April 28 2016 06:31 gumshoe wrote: this is what he said yesterday about me XD I hate to explain reasons why I am townie as they invalidate those reasons in the first place by showing im aware of them. But me and gb do not stand on equal ground for our argument. I extended myself to make sure a specific townie was lynched risking towns ire in the process, earlier hts claimed i was burning through all my posts to try and bury a townie, the issue is if I am scum, I dont need to do that, I just need someone else to die. Essentially I exposed myself and made mistakes for a cause I did not need to pursue. Gb on the other hand just defended himself, and called me scum for attacking him. These two stances are entirely different, mine is blatantly suboptimal for scum therefore townie, gb's is neutral,but also by burning all his posts defending himself/attacking me he doesnt have to really explain why hes not going after anyone else as he just wont have the posts to do so, burning out is advantageous for him as so long as we argue, he looks like hes playing the game. also guys gb would never drop his read on me so easily for tt / : i havent even swore on my life yet(what it took last time for him to reconsider me) Sub optimal plays do not equal town...... Case in point, Kuru claiming mafia after i cased his ass in Storm. Case in point again, me fucking being 3rd to lynched our doc (ok maybe i forgot he was our doc but still), 3rd, going into lylo with 2 blue roles, one of which are mod confirmed. Also, more onto what this post wanted to talk about, the GB vote was kinda hasty, and really doesn't make sense with the fact Fidei claimed blue.... | ||
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On April 28 2016 06:43 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##Vote GB Him or Shape. Bias | ||
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On April 28 2016 07:03 Fidei86 wrote: The N2 kill had to be either Tumble or LS. Scum probably flipped a coin in order to avoid WIFOMing too hard and avoiding medic/JK. Of course, I think I should fall into that category, but nobody in this game seems much interested in actually lynching scum. A course, Cuz all I am doing is spamming + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On April 28 2016 07:09 Koshi wrote: O rly. What a piece of shit are you. Fucking 0 impact player who wasted a blue role by claiming and was screaming to lynch town during EoD2. Yes, because the correct play for any blue role is to not claim after being the largest wagoning in the fucking game. But you seem to forgot the all claim post you made almost 10 secs after his claim. Seriously. | ||
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On April 28 2016 07:23 Fidei86 wrote: TW modkill incoming. Will actually be good for town as no more prots anyway and will take lylo to 2v1. If we don't find the scum first. Missing a vote once will result in a warning that will carry over for five games. If you have already been warned from a previous game, you will be modkilled without another warning. Oh shit.......Storm...... Fuck, I mean yeah it is still ok (ish) yet we would still have confirm peeps alive (well, I am pretty sure you are blue, since no one CCed) if it wasn't for the MK for Day 3. Annoying. Oh well, I am pretty sure now it is GB, and we win here. | ||
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At least Tumble is still alive. | ||
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At worse, we go into mylo (I think?) if I get lynched due to my afkiness. In that case, review everything and such (just don't fuck up and do what I did on my first lylo as town on OMGUS and vote the most towniest person, Kush, due to guts) Now onto the game: Helf = Them Sky^2 (E = MC^2) case on TT (he cased GigyaS and I think ritoky? before he was eventually caught by the tracker! in mylo) ![[image loading]](http://vomzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/new-doctor-who-gifs-588.gif) Now to move away from gloating, The first thing that kinda pops into mind with her case, is the missing of his 2 recent games as scum (devil and Storm, the latter is kinda important) as the latest game that she listed that was played was from December, roughly at this point, 5 months old. And while I am sure that it doesn't drastically change the view on his meta (as he only has played about 3 games? since he played nut.), there are some points that should be noted (IMO) form those games. The first major point (that at this point, if no one knows about, I am going to beat on the fucking head with a noodle) is the burnout. There were mentions of it in Devil, and majorly evident in storm. TT's Filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/505463-tl-mafia-lxxiv-storm-mafia-3?user=Tictock Scum QT (Scroll to the bottom, half the posts are just me talking to myself): http://quicktopic.com/52/H/HDGBMg456EPjp If you read the aboves, you see how hard it was for him to really get going. Though, he was able to get some content going, going into day 2. Ex. On March 27 2016 20:00 Tictock wrote: Finished reading up till EoD. This vote is really odd as a final count, both Rsoul and Tube voting Kuru and everyone piled on them... could be a TvT. I think one of Kuru or Rsoul is probably scum though. Reads at this point: VayneAuthority - Null - + Show Spoiler + Drops a half assed read on Rsoul #547, pretty much only thing he's firm about and leaves. Could be townie not giving a fuck or scum dropping a vote and outing. Kurumi - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler + #216 kinda an odd open, he really just rambles about a couple of different people in one post; Gum pointed out this interesting bit in #268; #305 alot more rambling and the conclusion that gum is for sure scum feels kinda over the top; #495 stopped reading after the "bollocks I was really wrong, I really was too harsh" reaction to gum flipping town; #870 kinda like this post, feels genuine... could prob come from scum though; #1008 actually like this response; #1071 really weak vote, opportunistic and rife with omgus; WoT's feely rambling like they have no read drive/motivation behind them, reads seem kinda weak and opportunistic for how much he likes to write Stutters695 - Turns out was a blue... Damdred - mild scum lean - + Show Spoiler + #166 decent post, shows critical thought and is pushing for info; #300 decent reads, disagree about Vivax and LS though; #379 mimics Jat in making the "sensible statement here" also the snap defense of LS feels off even if he's townreading him; #1264 don't like this vote, #959 pile of garbage that boils down to "don't lynch me, I'm a good player!"; #1055 says he likes this post from Tube but in #1264 he plops his vote on Tube with no real explanation (actually never did find much about his Tube read rechecking his filter) Weird vote on Tube, not explained and he had recently quoted a post he liked, a few townie posts but nothing I haven't seen Damdred do as scum before sandroba - town - + Show Spoiler + #966 felt same way about SL's gum vote; #967 weird he doesn't know gum got shot; all in all the thought dumb from #966 to 972 feels pretty towny; Feels alot like sandroba from last game ObiWanShinobi - town lean -+ Show Spoiler + #957 and #1000 seems like Obi is being fairly forward with his thoughts Koshi - town - + Show Spoiler + Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother... Rels - town lean - + Show Spoiler + #439-440 jumps in with stuff on his mind; #537 exactly my thought; #1280 I like this catch; I read Rels by the way he pushes on people and things, as scum he tends to nitpick and will overpush little things, here he feels level headed and his pushes are more questioning than vindictive. I also doubt a scum!Rels would say I could be town for being afk. justanothertownie - town lean - + Show Spoiler + #348 feels like an odd open, the way he defends Rit while dismissing his plan suggests he has a strong town read on rit; #544 & # 557 are both solid posts from Jat, I like how he's applying critical thinking but not being quick to conclusions Can't recall if I've actually played with JAT before so not sure what his scum range is, but he is probably town from the way he is processing things ritoky - slight scum lean - + Show Spoiler + The whole VT claim, fishing, w/e thing seems off to me. It's not so much that Rit played it so poorly, but that he put so much focus on it. I found one LS read from him early on I liked, #285, but otherwise his first page (actually a large part) of filter is all about his brilliant play. #816 also shows that Rit knew there was a chance his play might never even work (he knows that Scum QT's are often provided with fake claim info). #827 claims to give no fucks, but 832 keeps defending his plan and telling people it was good seems like he gives several fucks. It's like Rit knows his plan didn't work, played it bad, but is really concerned that people know it was done with pure intentions. I'm just not feeling like Rit's actions match what he claims he was doing here. #798 is a pretty weak read on Super imo, I wouldn't put that past a scum!super at all. Posts like #404 is more what I'd expect from town!Rit, simple to the point reads. sicklucker - Town lean - + Show Spoiler + #162 feels like a bit of a hop on vote; So not much really stood out to me from SL, but he's not giving a shit how he comes off to people and I can see the reasoning behind his pushes pretty clearly. Hard to explain but he feels town Alakaslam - Scum - + Show Spoiler + I really disliked Slams reactions after his shot went off, he pushes blame off on others, some of his explanation on the shot seems convoluted, and he basically fucked off after defending himself. I'm not seeing anything he's done to contribute to this game. #137 right off the bat this feels odd, it's quite clear what koshi is doing with that (reffering to his list postings); #363 says he would have shot Rsoul; #409 now suggests he's rethinking and must sleep on it?; #655 says everyone being butthurt makes him not want to cooperate, but everything he's done has been acting on his own thus far... Slam hasn't even given reads; #678 says he considered shooting Kuru or Gum, went with gum kus of bad meta useage (as in gum was sorta scum reading slam); #844 says he was agreeing with Kuru and shot Gum, then suggests he's mad he's getting the blame; #1140 the timeline in this is wrong, Slam says he thought about retracting the shot before bed, woke up thinking about it, then remembered his original reason for scum reading gum... how did he forget why he wanted to shoot gum in all the "thinking" time he had? It's really weird how Slam says he was both considering shooting Kuru but agreeing with him on gum at the same time. He also never mentions his thought about shooting Rsoul after the shot goes off, there is too much not making sense to me here, besides the fact that slam shot a fairly active person so early with so little thought given Tumblewood - Null/slight town lean - + Show Spoiler + #278 tumble's open, it adds nothing and look terrible... probably town; #286 another post that does little to impact the game, fits with town meta #329 feels like Tumble is setting up blame for a town flip from gum rather than looking for voting modivations; #670 really doesn't make sense, especially why he is SURE slam is town here I'd prob put Tumble down as town for meta, but that's not a great town read Shapelog - Null - + Show Spoiler + #181 post mirrors my thinking; #187 reads seem weird, not sure why he's TRing slam; #283 I dont get this post, it's a wierd response to LS; #623 feels really wishywashy to me, like he's really avoiding coming to conclusions; #711 this focus on VA seems odd when there are multiple people, like myself, who are not really playing, shape himself has pointed us out #716 maybe just a little too eager to please & respond? Shape's overall tone and attitude gives me a town feel, but his reads feel a little off to me and he's being kinda wishywashy while focusing on weird things. Vivax - Town - + Show Spoiler + I like this style of play from vivax, it screams town to me. #262 I like this "fuck off let me do my thing" attitude coupled with promising to behave, plus I like his points; #324 huge stream of thought type post, unlikely from mafia; #634 yea, never lynch vivax rsoultin - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler + #327 open post that tries to talk about a ton, but says nothing; #331 is a bad post, it says nothing while implying people are scum, it's also a surface reaction which shows no effort in reading tumble; #1017 this tunnel on Rit feels a little forced, even though I agree he's sus; #1019 these "I'm not the lynch" style posts feel so blah to me, #1117 weird vote given how focused she's been on Rit, also unsure where this read on Kuru comes from kinda like #353 and #358 is the sorta attitude you get from a town not giving a fuck While I have a similar suspiscion of Rit, Rsoul doesn't seem to be willing to look at Rit possibly being town while asking others to do the same for herself. Combined with her sudden burst of activity when she was being voted on, and her odd vote while semi-giving up pushing Rit, I'm having a hard time seeing Rsoul as town. LightningStrike - scum lean - + Show Spoiler + #172-173 kinda odd how defensive of Slam he is being, especially give gum wasn't really pushing slam; #196 Promising to check things and taking a lot of middle of the road stances; #277 omgus feels out of place, #279 he is over-defensive over something simple; #534 feels a little opportunistic, #891 really good non-answer... ; I know LS has something of a reputation of being lynchbait, but I'm not getting much from him that suggests he's trying to solve the game here. I only recall him posting some town and null reads, never got the sense that he has scum reads Superbia - Town - + Show Spoiler + #135 half joking/half down to buisness; #174 not sure where this TR on slam comes from; #192 good points, also adds to my own thoughts about #187; #242 strong post, gives me strong town feels; #501 - 505 love this train of thought breaking down the gum wagon Attitutde & tone feels town, paranoid about people town reading him, probably has done the most to try to sovle the game So I guess technically, even with the burnout, he could/did post content of such. Hmmm. Contradicts a bit of what i thought. Devil was a tad different. He buddied me (well, I kinda reversed buddy, in which I got buddy because I pushed to be buddied with him over bombpops) If u want to skim it, here: Filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503525-shin-megami-tensei-the-devil-inside-mafia?user=Tictock Post 950# On April 28 2016 05:38 Shapelog wrote: I..Do not understand...The point of this post. Defense by WIFOM? Yeah, I still do not really like that post. On April 25 2016 20:10 Tictock wrote: It's interesting that DYH and GB were voting together here. If they are both scum this is a pretty weak attempt to stay alive by voting together on a wagon that is probably never going to happen. Idk it's super weak, especially since the lynch was between GB and DYH, but I wouldn't expect scum to be voting together like this. I'd expect a scum!GB to make the swap to DYH to at least pickup whatever towncred he could, but honestly that's pretty WIFOM. Still, this plus the stuff between GB and SL is enough to make me prefer a Fidei lynch tomorrow over GB. But WIFOM doesn't matter when he makes a defense, where he literally admits has almost all WIFOM elements lol. Could come from town tho. I just did it in a unmarked game as it so eh. If I had to describe nut: I am bias a course, because of track. But I got majorly buddy that game. I was also the one who argued that people should be reading into meta, because it could be easily faked from him (which it was.) He mimicked his meta so well (at least according to how other people reacted) that got him universally town read. He made a bunch of big posts, and was a town figure head. And Finally, I drawn a Tarot card for him (this part is pure lolz) It was Queen of Pentacles - reversed Description The face suggests that of a dark woman, whose qualities might be summed up in the idea of greatness of soul; she has also the serious cast of intelligence; she contemplates her symbol and may see worlds therein. Divinatory Meanings Opulence, generosity, magnificence, security, liberty. Divinatory Meanings - Reversed Evil, suspicion, suspense, fear, mistrust. Additional Divinatory Meanings Dark woman; presents from a rich relative; rich and happy marriage for a young man. Additional Meanings - Reversed An illness. Idk, I just used a website Anyways, I'm going to reread TT's filter again this game and HTS for good measure. I have a tinfoil Idea on Koshi that I would like to look at as well. However, if he is scum this game, he has mimic his town playstyle greatly. So he is still prob. town. | ||
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On April 29 2016 09:32 Tictock wrote: Good I can put that tinfoil to rest. I haven't really read HtS's case on me yet, but she made good choices picking out my strongest scum games. Pretty sure I post just to post as either alignment though... I mean if that's what you wanna call it when I make posts like this one. (if this weren't a post restricted game I might well just stop and post now, but...) Without reading filters Shape seems like the obv choice from my PoV, but I should do you all justice and actually read HtS's filter (Hell just the fact that she's been making nonstop WoT type posts might be something to note, kus god does it make me not wanna read her filter) and recheck Gum. I could tinfoil Koshi, but honestly he might deserve the win if he is mafia here. The buddying has been spot on if mafia. All for now, I'll do things when I feel like it. ![[image loading]](http://media4.popsugar-assets.com/files/2013/03/12/5/192/1922507/7807d5e19cb96253_original_1_.xxxlarge/i/Wibbly-Wobbly-Dance.gif) *sigh* Tired of being ninjaed | ||
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On April 29 2016 23:31 Tictock wrote: Shape this is important... What was the image of the Card you "drew" for me? In regards to HtS's case on me it's interesting that she is useing so much meta in that case... but without checking my town games as well. Especially when there are plenty of points this game that leave me looking fairly questionable (TRing SL D1, being one of the last to move to DYH when it didn't matter, ergo the stuff Fidei pointed out). I probably wont be bothered to look at filters till a fair bit later on today, but my initial feeling reading that case is that I'm being painted as scum not evaluated as more likely scum than town. ![[image loading]](http://www.tarotlore.com/tarot-images/rider-waite-smith/large/queen-of-pentacles.jpg) Reversed. Also, when was the last time town game (VT)? all you have ever role since I think I been a player has been blue o red....... Interesting enough. | ||
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Will do more once this last storm passes, my luck, that all week they been calling for rain, yet it only happens when i have no other internet access >_< | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + https://weather.com/weather/5day/l/Wilmington+NC+USNC0760:1:US let me drink my coffee and get done with this assignment, and in a while i start posting. I've caught up, yet want to read filters before hand. I forgot Gumshoe was alive (I thought he died, JA I shall redeem myself from that Lylo in OMGUS. I owe it to Kush to actually play well. + Show Spoiler + I keep talking about it, yet never have linked it http://www.omgus.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=246 with posts like this FUCKING SHAPELOG WHY DID I EVEN INVITE HIM TO OMGUS | ||
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EGADS AND FLASHES OF NOISE! LANDS UPON MY BROKEN HOME, STRIKING OUT MY INTERNET ACCESSES, ONCE AGAIN! THE WEATHERMAN, NORMALLY WRONG, WAS FUCKING RIGHT FOR ONCE, FOR BETTER OR WORSE! + Show Spoiler [to prove I am not kidding] + https://weather.com/weather/5day/l/Wilmington+NC+USNC0760:1:US And it is storming right now so idk if I even will be around towards later today near deadline :/. Anyways, Time to go gosu bonjaw mode. Where to start. random Name selector has picked KOSHI for the start off. Which, would be where I would of started, therefore, I must be kin with this selector. Off the top of my head, Koshi is basically town. I do still have tinfoil (Primarily to do with blue hunting, and some other things) yet, in order for him to be scum, he had to have mimic his town meta to a point of where people believe it. And he has. And according to what I know from mouths (storm/Starwars) that is hard for him to do. He also claims to know me meta wise, which is true to a degree. Koshi has played with me as town and scum, yet the last true town game we played in (not counting the hydra newbie because Kush was who did a lot for meh due to cell) was nut. And if we do include the Hydra game, there are a lot of parallels from that game to here (as D1 to D2(ish) I didn't have a lot of time) So long winded short, Koshi does know the mafia side of me, yet, Not heavily on my town side (tho, do/should know some what) On May 03 2016 20:25 Koshi wrote: Shape who was 0 effort this game said this about a mafia: Which is pretty impressive. After he gave that list post he did nothing to push either sl or figure out DYH their alignment though. But turned it miraculously around and he voted mafia sl on D1. Impressive once more. But looking at his post he kinda was looking to get off him. Why? ↑ please watch how FF was voting fecalfeast. The same person Shape thought was mafia. But for some reason right after voting sl, Shape goes attack the person who wants to vote sl with him. ↑ Tinfoil (mafia talking to each other) BUT There is also no actual attempt from Shape to read sl. Just this. Strange when Shape was scumreading sl? And D2 he again ended on mafia!! Impressive once more. And D3 he did nothing because there was 0 pressure. Pushed the GB a bit but didn't put his hearth really into it. Also pushed another town lynch in TT already. Just doing what is needed. Blending in and making the right cases on the right people. For D4 he didn't even vote. Which is not normal for Shape. I do believe he has really problems connecting to the internet but I also think that as town he would find a way to show his commitment to solving the game and wouldn't get catched by internet failure. Probably voted his scumread when he entered the thread. etc etc. The guy is just playing reactionary D3 and D4 and is getting rewarded for it by dumbass shit townreads that people give him. I never understood why people townread him. Both HTS and gumshoe and this TW. And GB. Only TT was skeptical and said he was probably town because the mafia spewed him town. Which was exactly my read on Shape but some dumbasses lynched TT and some other dumbasses didn't vote. But w.e that happened. D5 more nothing. Just get him lynched. Last 3 cycles it is mafia riding to victory because town is fucking retarded to the maximum. Gumshoe. Read this fucking case carefully. And tell me why the fuck you want to lynch somebody who wrote 5 billion words over Shape. Who has no real reason to be town except GAME FUCKING RELATED EVENTS. While HTS was pushed by SL While HTS made a shitton of questionable post. (which at that amount could come from town trying to solve over mafia trying to hide) While HTS is really trying to solve the game. day after day. First off, about the FF wanting SL dead thing. ironically enough, In devil I voted with my top scum read, Saltshaker (who was town), onto Palmar (who was also town.) But anyways, FF wanted SL to die, then, for some odd reason, changed his vote to HTS after saying he wanted to vote off SL. So yes, I was skeptic about that. And then proceed to vote FF off. Your Tinfoil pleases me. As all Tinfoil does. ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/Rx7HeIAv5NPCo/giphy.gif) I don't normally push hard as town tho. It was actually why I made the JAS smurf until I failed that, and became Just Another Shapelog. And yes, my cases turned up being wrong after all, But that is mafia in a nutshell. Is it normal for people not to vote lol? All jokes aside, I prob. should of place my vote (even if it was on me, since I think we could self vote this game). I was debating between TT and HTS (going back and forth, reading games etc) and then lost internet . Do agree with you tho, with the "he should done it." statementi've played reaction based town before. second newbie i was in (one I replaced) people got onto me (IIRC) for it. Oh boy...The early days *stutters* The weatherman is a bitch | ||
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On May 03 2016 23:46 gumshoe wrote: like lets be real here, whoever the scummer is, they have had 3 days to do nothing but feign innocence and plan this moment. the tumble lynch is implies they are in a good position as they have the room to kill 100 percent trs as opposed to threats. Your not that person, as theres no way dyh pushed you like he did if your scum together. does this really seem like a scenario I would manufacture koshi? Having to go after arguably the best player in the game while desperately defending the worst one in ways that alienate you, another strong player, and expose me? Lets be real (I.E. I have gotten a Idea) And I know that part of this is to Koshisus, but I can't read. Gumovingian has to scum read HTS here for the most part as either alignment. As he has, before hand, call me and Koshi town. Therefore, the only person left for him, and in case is HTS. Now he could back track theoretically, yet, as town, unless something changes his mind, he wouldn't, and as scum that would draw a bit of attention and sus on himself. So the defense, I could vote Shape off, but I am not, so town is kinda null In that respect. Furthermore, There wasn't a whole lot Gumovingian could do in that regard (in terms of who he thought was scum here) as after the GB flip, the only other person would be TT. On April 30 2016 04:00 gumshoe wrote: Hey, so checking in, have to gm for some friends today so I'll be working on that mostly ) : but i'll poke in every once in a while in case anyone has questions. I still think shape is town / : sorry koshi, that day 1 vote is pretty rock solid in my mind. tumble-lol koshi- no fucking way koshi is scum here ever so that leaves hts and tt. TT is in my blind spot, as I have trouble reading people who have accused me, Gbs death yesterday is an example of that, hts seems too involved to be scum. If shes scum, that means she has a second hts in her head thats town who helps her keep her cover straight and make it look like shes solving a puzze. we also know that dyh had a tendency to hard town read actual townies (gb and fedie) sl also hard town read hts, but again, she looked objectively townie(if only because of activity) so they may have just been trying to appease her. I honestly have no fucking clue whose scum between the two, tt looks fine as well honestly, he was a little reluctant to lynch dyn but so was I honestly, I'm probs not gonna vote today as I dont want another gb repeat T_T when next I post it'll be with a thorough evaluation of the two of them, maybe shape too if I have time but as I said, pretty sure the dudes not derp enough to hop onto a mislynch. Never sadly happen, anyways. So Gumovigrian has to read TT and HTS. Yet, before hand, he had HTS as someone he wanted to lynch, and wanted to lynch (but after GB) and load and behold. We are in Lylo, with Gum and HTS, and gum is now saying that scum has to plan for it, thus he would = town, yet he could of plan it if he was scum and did. So, long way about, Yes gum, you could of plan this as scum. | ||
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On May 04 2016 00:38 gumshoe wrote: lol, we literally were just in this position, with me defending you and you scum reading me for asinine reasons. also the key thing your overlooking about my having to vote hts argument is this, I would have never put myself in the postion of having to scum read my top town read to win the game I would have had days to plan this, hard tring you like I have was an awful move as scum and something I would never have done, especially because of the consistency with which others have scum read you thereby giving me the chance to renounce my views. DO YOU HEAR ME SHAPE, ITS A POSITION I PUT MYSELF INTO, WHY DO THAT AS SCUM also you know what, ill give you guys one last chance I swear on my life and my mother and fathers lives that I am town. there, I may be a dick for doing that, but im not a piece of shit. if you 2 lynch me you do so knowing full well that your fucking idiots. ##unvote ##vote hts ...I didn't vote you.......all I said was you could of plan it...wowie. Yet you did tho, you litterly went at the GB lynch (D3) posted that you wanted to lynch your top town read the next day if GB wasn't scum. If I had to guess, you did it as scum because everyone else allowed you to do so (renounceing your view) from the scum reads on HTS. Which is your defense for me. And you did have days to plan it (since D2 lynch) basically if you were scum. Maybe RL issue yes, but you still have had time. Also, as someone who lost his dad early on (11) Don't bring family members into the game like that if you can help it. It bothers me, and kinda is a tad bit disrespectful IMO. | ||
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... And yes I was wrong in Devil, for fucksake. And I admit that. And maybe I am jackshit at reading you. But, that is just ridiculous. I am in a postilion where I know that either you or Sky is scum, so yes, I am going to be questionable and nick-picky. | ||
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On May 04 2016 01:21 gumshoe wrote: im sorry, I was more flipping out at koshi T_T I was fairly reasonable with him throughout the argument but his whole "lol your dying no matter what take the moral win" set me off. It was dickish of me to do what I did, I wasnt mad at you it was just sort of a last straw thing cause i was sitting here laughing/dreading at the thought of you coming after me again in identical fashion -_- and when that actually happened I exploded, I didnt mean to insult the memory of your family I was just really angry. in regards to your argument, I would have never trd you like that in the first place / : woulda kept my point about jumping onto the mislynch to myself that is the honest truth, you can be certain I would not have this paticular group at final 4 if I was scum, I havent been able to convince koshi of anything so would never bring him, I wouldnt defend you and I wouldnt go after hts. No hard feelings. For the most part. Hmmm, Maybe you are right and I just being a tunneling again. | ||
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You gave me out of all people the motherfucking Hammer vote. Did you not read the fucking OMGUS Game?!?!?!?!?!? Alright, I can deal with this, time to reread everything again. | ||
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That case..... Wow. Gumivrgian has now been promoted to Sugergum, in honor of NC's High Sugar gum tree count. Still rereading but wow...... | ||
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Currently hts has ff tumble gb ls and shape as potential scum, all town of course. Sl and dyh are apprently coasting in her books at this moment. Only I haven't flipped, therefore, even if you find me town to the dickens, shouldn't I be excluded from that list? | ||
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And what is worse, Scum!Gum doesn't actually have to answer the above. Town!gum a course might not be here. Between the two, Sky really does look like it now (even if most of Sugargum's filter is contraindications to a degree) Hmmmm, And then, the one sky made as well, actually fits this quite well... | ||
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On May 04 2016 07:27 gumshoe wrote: I basically think your town 100 percent at this point, the hop onto ff and dyh attacking you have made that clear to me for a while, I don't need to be scum to know that your town here shape / : and as I said, I wouldn't be tring you if I was scum given Koshis eagerness to kill you and the ease with which I could make up some bulsshit to kill you. My sin is certainty (a crime I often make as town ) not treachery. Yeah, My sin is that I must Win with Style ![[image loading]](https://media2.giphy.com/media/13R6aOgozfpAje/200_s.gif) Vote: Gumshoe | ||
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I don't think honestly I deserve that win. Diff. not my best performance, yet the set up was pretty good. Gum, I think what you missed the most was a post from Normal, where I said I knew and could multiple the vote pattern as scum to be able to be pro-town. And for the recorded, yes, all RL issues were Real. | ||
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On May 04 2016 07:33 rsoultin wrote: lol shape's plan of attack: buss buss buss wait...are there no scummates left? ??? what now?? not even 3p to rolecop? ;o; <3s shape Lawl, Well, as Art. Drawn it: ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/oEHsQ/3de18d2443.png) Actually, I didn't want to bus this game, hence why i unvoted onto FF (and tried to find outs), but with the Vig shot on Sl, and a obv. forming wagon on last teammate, | ||
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Shapelog
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Idk, the game was kinda meh from my POV (not solving etc, but otherstuff like tones and stuff. Like people being questiony about if i was jailed in RL or not. Just little things like that kinda made me go huh?) but it wasn't too bad. Hope life treats you well sky, you will always be my first Host! | ||
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On May 04 2016 07:45 Koshi wrote: I fucking said a million times over this entire game that Shape was possible mafia. From D1 to D5. Everybody townread the guy. So fucking insane. Hey, U were right right? and lynched scum this game right? Yeah, And broke that curse of yours. | ||
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On May 04 2016 07:57 Koshi wrote: Town listened to each other. They all agreed on townreading Shape. Funny enough, If only If I Claimed scum faster, Gum would of been MLed instead of HTS o_0 | ||
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On May 04 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote: Anyway. Thx to host and cohosts. Also thx for write up already. I'll read it. This is now officially my last post in this thread. Bullshit | ||
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Shapelog
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On May 04 2016 08:15 sicklucker wrote: well you only did that because I said your vote was super bad Wut? 16 You have some wishy washy reads SL. Going to point it out, but not push you. I can't drive a bus today. Alright, then. As long As I am not driving the bus, I am open to things. I'm trying to think of who I want my Vote to land on. 2 of scum leans kinda just left, however Gumshoe I can vote. I can with LS as well. Hmmm, I might join you DYH, even if your lynch is happening. IF it goes haywire, and SL is here, he can vote in that case. I prob. will look better funny enough NOT voting you in the case of you winning their hearts. Damdred tho, tempted me to much. | ||
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fine. ##scum: DYH,SL,Shape I am just 100% lynching Shape every game. Play with meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Gosh. | ||
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On May 04 2016 21:59 NocturneMage wrote: so I tried to gather her thoughts regarding the final outcome, one of the things I personally don't understand is why the whole appeal to emotion means someone is town. she feels what gumshoe did about his anger was a shitty thing to do as either alignment honestly. she provided several counterexamples where mafia used emotion to get their way with things. she wasn't making that up. personally I would have used the example from millionaire where gumshoe and hts also don't know each other that well I don't think she's played with him ever before. but appeal to emotion will never sway her, in fact his doing what he did only "assured" her he was likely mafia. there was no way back from the tunnel once gumshoe did that, whether you agree with her or not, she will not give a shit about appeal to emotion in these games. that said she does accept she should have just placed way more pressure on shapelog. I asked her if she would have done so if she had been around to notice that shape was doing shit all, she admits she doesn't know if she would have ever switched her vote....but she would have screamed at Shape to take a stand on one of them. But I am to nice :/ | ||
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On May 04 2016 23:01 disformation wrote: So to say: put your conclusions in a form/shape that is very visible and hide the lengthy explanations as to how/why you came to that conclusion into spoilers. Idk, Shapes are pretty blendy. ![[image loading]](http://cdnl.accucutcraft.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/C/R/CR210.jpg) | ||
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