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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 15 2015 10:11 GMT
#6
/in

Hopefully this starts before the holidays, so I can spend Xmas day getting drunk and mislynching Alex.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 15 2015 13:33 GMT
#9
On December 15 2015 20:35 Half the Sky wrote:
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On December 15 2015 19:11 Fidei86 wrote:
Hopefully this starts before the holidays, so I can spend Xmas day getting drunk and mislynching Alex.


Please. He needs the noose after what he did to me in Dark Tournament

<3

Eh, when I tell people about DT, I'll say that Alex sheeped me on to you.

Still wish I had yolo shot you n1.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 18 2015 15:39 GMT
#19
On December 18 2015 23:43 disformation wrote:
Tons of hosts and coaches. WTB players!

People scared that my #streak of six games town without being mislynched is going to continue.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 18 2015 16:55 GMT
#24
Eh the games I've lost I only personally threw one of them. My record:

Holy Guardians - Town - Loss - Onegu throw.
Newbie XII - Town - Win - HTS carry
Personalities - Town - Loss - Kita endgamed
Himalayas - Town - Loss - I was masoned with Tina, but nobody would lynch the red-checked Holyflate #wtf. Seem to recall there was an Onegu throw here too.
Newbie XIV - Town - Loss - Fidei throw
SOTW2 - Mafia - Win - Rels carried
Dark Tournament - Town - Win - TheShining carry
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 18 2015 16:56 GMT
#25
I'm being a little unfair to Moosy re Newbie XIV, but ... yeah. That was probably 70% on me. Poor scott
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 19 2015 23:32 GMT
#39
Onegu and F-word-dude in the same game?!!!??
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 22 2015 14:28 GMT
#63
Alex and Scott in the same game?

Shit. Scott has shown he's very good at reading me. Alex is jealous because I steal his wife from him at night to play Dota.

I'm definitely not making it very far if I roll scum this game.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 23 2015 09:33 GMT
#82
On December 23 2015 08:53 Tictock wrote:
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On December 19 2015 01:55 Fidei86 wrote:
Eh the games I've lost I only personally threw one of them. My record:

Holy Guardians - Town - Loss - Onegu throw.
Newbie XII - Town - Win - HTS carry
Personalities - Town - Loss - Kita endgamed
Himalayas - Town - Loss - I was masoned with Tina, but nobody would lynch the red-checked Holyflate #wtf. Seem to recall there was an Onegu throw here too.
Newbie XIV - Town - Loss - Fidei throw
SOTW2 - Mafia - Win - Rels carried
Dark Tournament - Town - Win - TheShining carry


WTH Fidei...

I clearly carried scum in HG, and threw Personalities by not fighting my ass off (only time people seem to be willing to consider me town).

I demand I be credited accordingly.

Also I was told you might need another coach but it looks like maybe you've got enough?

Not really sure I'd qualify anyways.

History is written by the historians!
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 23 2015 13:15 GMT
#86
Wtf a game without Rels?????
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 28 2015 10:47 GMT
#131
/confirm
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 29 2015 11:06 GMT
#239
Hi all. Not many people in this player list I know at all. I know NocturneMage (Alex) pretty well - been in two games with him. Also Scott, GB and Onegu, though I think I've only seen town Scott and Onegu. Everyone else is basically brand new to me.

Alex/NM's opening on me is the most NAI post I've ever seen - he and I always joke about lynching each other pre-game. I don't see how GB could have got anything from that post. GB have you played with NM before? The rest of GB's contributions are pretty ehhh as well. The only thing that sticks out to me is that the last time GB did a claim first post was Newbie XIV, where he was scum and claimed "not not doctor" or some such bullshit. Has anyone else noticed anything similar?

The thing that irks me about Alex/NM's play is always his tone. I usually think when people type too formally it's a Mafia tell, because they're the ones concerned about things being out of place. But with him, that's just how he is. Maybe it's a doctor thing? Content wise, I liked his post at #202. I don't think it makes Irish scum at all, but this is how Scott plays. His activity is always up and down, and he basically has a "see say" way of playing town. He also has played a lot with GB afaik. If anything, I'd give Scott a slight TR. Null on Alex/NM though.

Onegu has a horrible record of AFKing though D1 and then getting replaced. Ugh. I'm not going to hold my breath on that.

I'm not sure what to make of ShapeLog. For an experienced player, the fact that like 80% of his posts are totally off topic would be a major warning sign. But since he doesn't have all that many posts, it could be that he's just feeling comfortable in the thread. As someone who is literally terrified of posting whenever I roll mafia, this is pretty towny to me WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IT IS FUCKING ANNOYING AND SHITS UP THE THREAD WHICH IS VERY ANTI-TOWN. Ahem. Don't spam posts please people.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 29 2015 11:17 GMT
#240
On December 29 2015 18:32 mderg wrote:
Meh, reading this thread is difficult when you don't know most of those names.

People are quick to jump on GB, I like that because his opening was fishy but I also don't like it because it feels too easy. I'll have to see how that continues.

Don't like GiygaS so far... Has made like 7 posts but I didn't see anything of substance. The fist reads also don't really seem that strong.

I have a slight townread on NocturneMage, he's being out there and being open about his thoughts. He's also asking lots of questions which makes me think he's trying to solve the game. He is a dirty league player, though...

I don't understand your read on Gigya versus your read on ShapeLog. I read Gigya's thread and I agree with what you say - it's basically soft town reads on a couple of people based on activity with the rest OOC filler. But then, look at ShapeLog's filter. It's mostly the same, except three times longer.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 29 2015 11:23 GMT
#241
Eh what I meant to say is your lack of a read on ShapeLog (you don't actually have a read on him). For me, I think SL's "loneliest man in New York" rant was kinda towny, but it's more surprising that you didn't hit on that but went to Gigya.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 29 2015 12:33 GMT
#246
On December 29 2015 20:41 mderg wrote:
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On December 29 2015 20:23 Fidei86 wrote:
Eh what I meant to say is your lack of a read on ShapeLog (you don't actually have a read on him). For me, I think SL's "loneliest man in New York" rant was kinda towny, but it's more surprising that you didn't hit on that but went to Gigya.

I haven't really gone through his filter because it's annoying to read and didn't notice anything special from him in the thread (aside from spam). I guess that also doesn't make him look too good considering the filter size.

I agree it's annoying, but what do you think about his alignment?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 29 2015 12:34 GMT
#247
On December 29 2015 21:08 mderg wrote:
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On December 29 2015 20:56 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim

Not quite the first post I'd have imagined

Onegu claims VT in every game he plays, whether it's voice or forum. It is super NAI. Hopefully he'll be less useless than all the other games we have played together, but somehow I doubt it >>
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 29 2015 12:44 GMT
#248
On December 29 2015 20:27 Irishbound wrote:
@Fiedei - Snapes pregame posts inside the thread were very similar in that he'd post a lot with not much of it being particularly game related, think it's just a playstyle type thing for him. Can you explain your town read on Scott for me as well as comment on what about my scum-read on him you disagree with please.

I've played with Scott in three games. The first was Holy Guardians, the second was NMXII and the third NMXIV. In HG he played very aggressive and accusatory, and was town. In the second game, he AFK'd and was town. In the third he actually played really well and I ML'ed him at LYLO for the town loss. But the thing I remember about his d1 in that game was that he would tend to quote long pieces of text and give a quick reaction to them. He didn't give long reads, he just sort of surfed the thread. His play here matches that. I also recall that he likes to tease GB (and indeed nearly got GB lynched d1 in XIV). It's a little thing, but if Scott and GB were adverse, I'd expect Scott to stay away from reading him early.

So it's a bunch of little things, really. Usual caveat - it's early etc. But yeah.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 29 2015 12:46 GMT
#249
@Irishbound I should say that my read is 100% meta/tone. From a content perspective, there's nothing to add to your post. I agree with what you say, I'm just letting my previous games with Scott colour my read.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 29 2015 19:15 GMT
#310
On December 30 2015 00:08 NocturneMage wrote:
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On December 29 2015 20:06 Fidei86 wrote:
Hi all. Not many people in this player list I know at all. I know NocturneMage (Alex) pretty well - been in two games with him. Also Scott, GB and Onegu, though I think I've only seen town Scott and Onegu. Everyone else is basically brand new to me.

Alex/NM's opening on me is the most NAI post I've ever seen - he and I always joke about lynching each other pre-game. I don't see how GB could have got anything from that post. GB have you played with NM before? The rest of GB's contributions are pretty ehhh as well. The only thing that sticks out to me is that the last time GB did a claim first post was Newbie XIV, where he was scum and claimed "not not doctor" or some such bullshit. Has anyone else noticed anything similar?

The thing that irks me about Alex/NM's play is always his tone. I usually think when people type too formally it's a Mafia tell, because they're the ones concerned about things being out of place. But with him, that's just how he is. Maybe it's a doctor thing? Content wise, I liked his post at #202. I don't think it makes Irish scum at all, but this is how Scott plays. His activity is always up and down, and he basically has a "see say" way of playing town. He also has played a lot with GB afaik. If anything, I'd give Scott a slight TR. Null on Alex/NM though.

Onegu has a horrible record of AFKing though D1 and then getting replaced. Ugh. I'm not going to hold my breath on that.

I'm not sure what to make of ShapeLog. For an experienced player, the fact that like 80% of his posts are totally off topic would be a major warning sign. But since he doesn't have all that many posts, it could be that he's just feeling comfortable in the thread. As someone who is literally terrified of posting whenever I roll mafia, this is pretty towny to me WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IT IS FUCKING ANNOYING AND SHITS UP THE THREAD WHICH IS VERY ANTI-TOWN. Ahem. Don't spam posts please people.


Alright, this post. I am assuming you think GB is scummy, which a lot of other people are sayign as well. Are you saying his claim could make him more or less mafia? I gave an explanation earlier of how it could be anti-town but not necessarily scummy.

Also I don't understand by what you meant by see say way of town. I'm not sure your stance is reasonable from the perspective that you haven't played with a scum Scott before. How do you know his post couldn't possibly come from a scum perspective?

The tone read on me is confusing at best. In Dark Tournament you compared me to a Jack Russell on meth because I was emotional and last game I admitted that I was playing emotionally because Trfel and Half the Sky were in that game and both of those players had me on full tilt all game. The existence of HTS in general will have me on full tilt in any game as you should know but as neither of those players are present do you think my current tone is unusual or makes me mafia? You said before that my current tone is what you'd normally expect of me. So the meta change really doesn't make sense to me.

I guess you caught me - everything that GB has done has basically been a big pile of "ehh". He has a lot of townreads and not much else. Scott pointing that out is NAI - it's just pointing out something that is factually true. I don't want to lynch GB off the back of it - hell we enough people AFKing through D1 to make a ton of better options.

Re my tone read on Scott - that's fair. I might be set in my ways a little bit on him. I don't think Scott really has anything of any substance in his filter, so I'll move him back to null.

As to my read on you - the first time we played together you were meek, the second you were outraged, and both times you were town. This time you seem more ... in the middle? I can't really fault any of your content though.

Rels' Useful List of Useless People:
- Onegu
- TheCow
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 29 2015 19:18 GMT
#311
On December 30 2015 03:50 Shapelog wrote:
Oh wait we have the lynch tomorrow nvm

Shapelog. Please stop spamming the thread with new thoughts every few minutes. We're not really in danger of getting out of control at this stage, but it makes it much more difficult for town to focus on what's important. I'm getting flashbacks to having to re-read Moosy's 36 page filter at the end of NSMXIV...
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 29 2015 19:22 GMT
#312
On December 30 2015 02:06 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:54 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.

I don't think talking about the probability of lynching scum D1 is a good idea. I will strongly oppose a lynch like that, if you still want to plynch Onegu at the end of the day.

Let me give you a brief history lesson. I have played with Onegu a number of times, and if he *doesn't* AFK through D1 and get replaced, he inevitably keeps his activity at an absolute minimum until the end of the game, regardless of alignment. Obviously it's easy to skate by as mafia without saying anything. But it's even worse as town because scum always can get an easy ML on him later in the day. TL has, in my view, a real problem with its aversion to considering policy lynches. I actually agree with kush here - if Onegu doesn't give us something to work with by tomorrow, he should be gone. I'm sick of losing games because he cba to play until LYLO.
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