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On April 19 2016 00:28 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:26 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 00:20 Superbia wrote:
Just got home from work. I'm (probably) the doctor. i'm (probably) going to lynch you anyway ^^ unless you can explain why a "doctor" gets mad at a player talking about lynching him when he retracts his claim, since the only town reason to do it is to try to get mafia not to shoot/rb him and players wanting to lynch him can only help with that I was mad at the people calling for a shot on me. Probably grouped that person in there. Like from my reaction it should've been obvious I wasn't the vigi.
i can see this but honestly even if you were doc a vig shot on you would have been fine. prob better than a vig shot on fazers tbh though that shot wasn't bad either
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On April 19 2016 00:30 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:28 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 00:24 Superbia wrote:
Gonna work on dinner soon and then csgo after that. Might be around later but probably not until tomorrow. And then I'm going to movies w/ gf. x;
Will try to sneak some time in between moments. yeah even if you are doctor which i doubt, you're useless and will always be a question mark, and you can't even be assed to try to spew yourself town or help the town by giving reads for when you're dead ^^ if you're town here you should be ashamed of yourself. fortunately you're probably not so there's that lol >< Eh, I'm glad about both flips tonight. I think TW is very likely mafia. That's pretty much it. You can lynch me for being busy (and to a degree, lazy), but that's pretty NAI for me imo.
just leave your reads behind if you're town. i'm not gonna waste time/space arguing with you
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On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims.
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
like, if the real doc (assuming he's not super) had actually successfully made a save last night and we could have three confirmed towns (vig claim + doc + save) and one confirmed mafia (super) then it would be worth claiming, but i honestly don't think the doc should cc here. i mean if he decides to i get it cause confirmed mafia is still good but i at least am lynching super anyway. if most of the rest of the town is, we don't need to give mafia that info
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On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.
i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save
i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims
super/tw/ows <- braglist 
super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves
lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/
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On April 19 2016 01:14 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims super/tw/ows <- braglist super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/ well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P
lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^
super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod
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On April 19 2016 01:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 01:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims super/tw/ows <- braglist super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/ well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^ super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod
oh poo i'm probably wrong :/ ows was on super so that makes it less likely. oh well. i'm way ahead of myself as it is lol
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On April 19 2016 01:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 01:25 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 01:23 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 01:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims super/tw/ows <- braglist super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/ well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^ super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod oh poo i'm probably wrong :/ ows was on super so that makes it less likely. oh well. i'm way ahead of myself as it is lol Yeah, I was gonna say something about that. Vig claiming here is bad simply because there's no point - what does town get out of that aside from one confirmed townie that's practically guaranteed to get shot?
how about one confirmed townie? like are you serious?
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On April 19 2016 02:16 Tumblewood wrote:
It's mid-D2 and I have like 2 townreads what is this
rsoul why is ows scum
mostly cause he's being awful (and not low content kinda normalish ows awful but legit logic awful, and i have a better impression of him than that) maybe mixed with a little paranoia from the last time i played with him when he was scum and i townread him for shit reasons all the way to lylo
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On April 19 2016 02:20 Tumblewood wrote:
gumshoe town if superbia scum
that WoT is counterproductive as scum because it indirectly shuts down a need for a CC
dude if you actually believe this about gumshoe but still are calling me scum i don't even know what to say
please don't be town here please don't be town please don't be town
i really don't want to call someone who is actually town stupid cause tbf when rayn does it to me it feels awful but this is just so terribly stupid >< like you've tunneled me blindly all game and you don't have the excuse of being a silly palmar to hide behind
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there is never any reason for vig not to claim after a vig shot unless he has more than one shot
like never
never ever
it is always the best play
always
do you understand what always means? having a confirmed town is never bad for town! and maybe you'll even get lucky and mafia will be dumb enough to fake claim/cc
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On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming.
you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_-
play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you
that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him
-facedesks-
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On April 19 2016 02:43 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 02:40 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:20 Tumblewood wrote:
gumshoe town if superbia scum
that WoT is counterproductive as scum because it indirectly shuts down a need for a CC dude if you actually believe this about gumshoe but still are calling me scum i don't even know what to say please don't be town here please don't be town please don't be town i really don't want to call someone who is actually town stupid cause tbf when rayn does it to me it feels awful but this is just so terribly stupid >< like you've tunneled me blindly all game and you don't have the excuse of being a silly palmar to hide behind but why that post about gumshoe to support this claim I also kinda feel the same way about you; if I tunnel and you're scum it's justice, if I tunnel and you're town I'm an ass
lol this is hilariously bad
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On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims super/tw/ows <- braglist super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/
On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims. we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do like, if the real doc (assuming he's not super) had actually successfully made a save last night and we could have three confirmed towns (vig claim + doc + save) and one confirmed mafia (super) then it would be worth claiming, but i honestly don't think the doc should cc here. i mean if he decides to i get it cause confirmed mafia is still good but i at least am lynching super anyway. if most of the rest of the town is, we don't need to give mafia that info
this makes me scum
this makes gumshoe town
lol tw ><
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On April 19 2016 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 02:44 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_- play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him -facedesks- No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus.
nope
"the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do"
i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol ><
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On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 03:03 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 02:44 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_- play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him -facedesks- No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus. nope "the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do" i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol >< No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care.
if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat
but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes
but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point
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On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 03:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:03 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 02:44 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_- play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him -facedesks- No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus. nope "the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do" i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol >< No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care. if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player.
-facedesks- okay okay okay. i'm gonna just say you're right to appease you now because obv mislynching is a mistake
-throws shoes at-
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i was supposed to not be spamming i suck at this lol ><
is there anyone you want to talk about other than tw/super cause i kinda feel like those topics have been beaten to death
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tbh with you, gum, you may be right and tumble is just town having one of the worst games he's ever had, but the idea of him being mafia after all this and letting it slide cause lolol too scummy to be scum
is just painful
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On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 04:31 Superbia wrote:
Like I agree my d1 was very afkish, and this day isn't any better. But I'm the fucking doctor?? You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went. You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much.
<3
nah, seriously, if you're actually the doc (and uncc'd here) that almost everyone still wants to lynch that says a lot more about the quality of your play than ours
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lol gum dude it's possible but palmar is like one of the biggest fear shots in the game cause he's hella good...and after his weekend play a doc save on him isn't very likely either
i'm not saying your theory is impossible. there are people like shape out there >> but if scum's doing that they're being pretty optimistic to think that someone who wouldn't obviously be vig shot over palmar would be vig shot
fazers/onegu/super/maybe tw/maybe ows/maybe sl <- like all of these are more like vig shots than palmar
if scum really had that as their plan i'm not sure what to say @.@
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