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On April 19 2016 19:50 Onegu wrote:
want me dead because I am onegu. It is tiresome. You would rather lose the game then have me play in it. I know when my time here is done.
It's kinda true, but even then you seem even more useless than usual. You're not dead today so stop complaining. You have a lot of time to do useful stuff.
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On April 19 2016 20:02 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 13:15 sicklucker wrote:
I think jat is far more likely scum if super is. He was very hesitant to lead the lynch day 1 which I do not believe is very jat like. But when he did it was off of super.
Why cant jat be with super? I think if supers town jats probably just town..
but like supers not town and is mathematically about 90% confirmed imo. We kill him today and move on with are game Because superbia scumslipped that JAT is town. If sub flips scum never in a million years ever lynch JAT....
What are you talking about ?
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JAS bro I have a question for you there:
On April 19 2016 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 07:26 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:Although SL is kinda right, Shape could be scum not caring after carrying that last game. He's super transparent this game On April 19 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal? None of your business.  Hmm, I want to check something, since it is not in FAQ On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims. While i am waiting, Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc. Idk the mechs. of FF's docs. Why did you feel the need to insist on the fact thjat you were gathering info on the doc role ? Now that you have this info, what was the thought behind it ? because, if the doc (provided it is not super here, which i doubt) couldn't self heal, and he claims, boom. dead Doc. Or likewise if they couldn't reheal the target. Gives mafia a heal free shot (though, like I said, they prob would just kill the doc out right.) Wait... Hold on... Oh yeah, they could of just Rb the guy, stopping the heal lol. Well, anyways, that was my idea behind the mech, question I asked. Weird. You asked for info about the doc after that post: Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal? None of your business. You sure you didn't ask the info to check if Superbia had a reason to not disclose his target ?
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On April 19 2016 22:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 22:31 Rels wrote:JAS bro I have a question for you there: On April 19 2016 18:02 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 07:26 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:Although SL is kinda right, Shape could be scum not caring after carrying that last game. He's super transparent this game On April 19 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal? None of your business. Hmm, I want to check something, since it is not in FAQ On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims. While i am waiting, Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc. Idk the mechs. of FF's docs. Why did you feel the need to insist on the fact thjat you were gathering info on the doc role ? Now that you have this info, what was the thought behind it ? because, if the doc (provided it is not super here, which i doubt) couldn't self heal, and he claims, boom. dead Doc. Or likewise if they couldn't reheal the target. Gives mafia a heal free shot (though, like I said, they prob would just kill the doc out right.) Wait... Hold on... Oh yeah, they could of just Rb the guy, stopping the heal lol. Well, anyways, that was my idea behind the mech, question I asked. Weird. You asked for info about the doc after that post: On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal? None of your business. You sure you didn't ask the info to check if Superbia had a reason to not disclose his target ? Ah, I am still catching up. Yes i also did in a way. That is why I asked if doc can heal the same person again. As If he couldn't heal the same person, they get a free shot Like I talked about in the last post.
Your last post explains that you asked these questions for very general reason, which is weird to me when it seems you were actually asking them for a very specific one, namely checking if Superbia had a reason to not disclose his target. Talking about this post:
On April 19 2016 07:26 JustAnotherScummer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:Although SL is kinda right, Shape could be scum not caring after carrying that last game. He's super transparent this game On April 19 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal? None of your business. Hmm, I want to check something, since it is not in FAQ On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims. While i am waiting, Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc. Idk the mechs. of FF's docs. Why did you feel the need to insist on the fact thjat you were gathering info on the doc role ? Now that you have this info, what was the thought behind it ? because, if the doc (provided it is not super here, which i doubt) couldn't self heal, and he claims, boom. dead Doc. Or likewise if they couldn't reheal the target. Gives mafia a heal free shot (though, like I said, they prob would just kill the doc out right.) Wait... Hold on... Oh yeah, they could of just Rb the guy, stopping the heal lol. Well, anyways, that was my idea behind the mech, question I asked.
It seems very overexplained, like you didn't know why you even asked these questions and created these reaons while typing this post.
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On April 19 2016 22:43 JustAnotherScummer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 22:40 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 22:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 22:31 Rels wrote:JAS bro I have a question for you there: On April 19 2016 18:02 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 07:26 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:Although SL is kinda right, Shape could be scum not caring after carrying that last game. He's super transparent this game On April 19 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal? None of your business. Hmm, I want to check something, since it is not in FAQ On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims. While i am waiting, Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc. Idk the mechs. of FF's docs. Why did you feel the need to insist on the fact thjat you were gathering info on the doc role ? Now that you have this info, what was the thought behind it ? because, if the doc (provided it is not super here, which i doubt) couldn't self heal, and he claims, boom. dead Doc. Or likewise if they couldn't reheal the target. Gives mafia a heal free shot (though, like I said, they prob would just kill the doc out right.) Wait... Hold on... Oh yeah, they could of just Rb the guy, stopping the heal lol. Well, anyways, that was my idea behind the mech, question I asked. Weird. You asked for info about the doc after that post: On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal? None of your business. You sure you didn't ask the info to check if Superbia had a reason to not disclose his target ? Ah, I am still catching up. Yes i also did in a way. That is why I asked if doc can heal the same person again. As If he couldn't heal the same person, they get a free shot Like I talked about in the last post. Your last post explains that you asked these questions for very general reason, which is weird to me when it seems you were actually asking them for a very specific one, namely checking if Superbia had a reason to not disclose his target. Talking about this post: On April 19 2016 07:26 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:Although SL is kinda right, Shape could be scum not caring after carrying that last game. He's super transparent this game On April 19 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal? None of your business. Hmm, I want to check something, since it is not in FAQ On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims. While i am waiting, Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc. Idk the mechs. of FF's docs. Why did you feel the need to insist on the fact thjat you were gathering info on the doc role ? Now that you have this info, what was the thought behind it ? because, if the doc (provided it is not super here, which i doubt) couldn't self heal, and he claims, boom. dead Doc. Or likewise if they couldn't reheal the target. Gives mafia a heal free shot (though, like I said, they prob would just kill the doc out right.) Wait... Hold on... Oh yeah, they could of just Rb the guy, stopping the heal lol. Well, anyways, that was my idea behind the mech, question I asked. It seems very overexplained, like you didn't know why you even asked these questions and created these reaons while typing this post. I forgot about about the one post about the target when I wrote the first one, but remember about self healing idea I had. That is pretty much it.
So you really "didn't know why you even asked these questions and created these reaons while typing this post". Well, I'll have to change "know" by "remember" if you're town.
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On April 19 2016 22:47 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 07:07 Superbia wrote:On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. Vig shoot this guy. You're honestly the dumbest town player ever. Here he scumslips that JAT is town.
Frankly, no. At this point he has already claimed so he knows he will die before the end of the game. Anything at all he said after his claim is WIFOM, and actually he probably tried to put his team in a better position for after he's dead, like Kurumi did last game.
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On April 19 2016 22:55 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 22:50 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 22:47 Onegu wrote:On April 17 2016 07:07 Superbia wrote:On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. Vig shoot this guy. You're honestly the dumbest town player ever. Here he scumslips that JAT is town. Frankly, no. At this point he has already claimed so he knows he will die before the end of the game. Anything at all he said after his claim is WIFOM, and actually he probably tried to put his team in a better position for after he's dead, like Kurumi did last game. Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. This is his post right before. Like and all he said was he was a PR before that but wouldnt say what it was then he made that post where he claims vt. So no it does matter... If sub flips scum I will never vote JAT.
Mm that might be good actually.
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On April 19 2016 22:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 22:55 Onegu wrote:On April 19 2016 22:50 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 22:47 Onegu wrote:On April 17 2016 07:07 Superbia wrote:On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. Vig shoot this guy. You're honestly the dumbest town player ever. Here he scumslips that JAT is town. Frankly, no. At this point he has already claimed so he knows he will die before the end of the game. Anything at all he said after his claim is WIFOM, and actually he probably tried to put his team in a better position for after he's dead, like Kurumi did last game. On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. This is his post right before. Like and all he said was he was a PR before that but wouldnt say what it was then he made that post where he claims vt. So no it does matter... If sub flips scum I will never vote JAT. Mm that might be good actually.
Actually he said "you're the dumbest town player ever". The "town" word is here for emphasis and is not very natural. Could very well by fakely spewing his partner town.
Doesn't prove anything but it doesn't spew JAT town I think.
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Actually the excitement is a town indicator in general, and it's even bigger for you who apparently have a difficulty tryharding as scum given your filter sizes.
I think OWS and SL are town, OWS more than SL; but since this theory is linking the two, OWS being town would mean your SL scumread is mostly unfounded. ^^
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On April 19 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
Hi I'm here to talk for a bit.
yo
I think you cannot avoid a lynch even in the offchance of you being the real doc. Write the max you can if you really are not scum though.
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On April 19 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote:JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed. On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch. On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:03 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
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No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus.
nope "the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do" i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol >< No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care. if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player. On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 04:31 Superbia wrote:
Like I agree my d1 was very afkish, and this day isn't any better. But I'm the fucking doctor?? You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went. You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much. Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded. Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game. Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment. What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte
It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense.
I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted:
On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12 Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread. There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.
Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you.
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On April 20 2016 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote:JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed. On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch. On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:
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No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care. if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player. On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 04:31 Superbia wrote:
Like I agree my d1 was very afkish, and this day isn't any better. But I'm the fucking doctor?? You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went. You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much. Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded. Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game. Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment. What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense. I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted: On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12 Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread. There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants. Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you. Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you. If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you.
No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread.
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On April 20 2016 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2016 00:27 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:On April 20 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote:JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed. On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:
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As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch. On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:
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Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him.
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This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort.
Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else.
But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment.
And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:
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I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player. On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:
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You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went.
You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night.
If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much. Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded. Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game. Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment. What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense. I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted: On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12 Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread. There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants. Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you. Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you. If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you. No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread. Nope. It's like you have 0 idea how this game works. IF super is mafia AND puts in the needed effort and I see that we can maybe save with the obtained town sentiment him THEN I maybe make a post like that. NOT when everything points towards him getting lynched anyways and I am just making myself look like a fool. I am acting exactly like a townie who does not KNOW superbia is mafia and makes sure he knows he can still salvage this if he really tries to. Which is something every townie should do because mislynching an uncced medic in an open setup is mighty retarded. There is 0 scum motivation and a lot of town motivation for what I have done.
Meh. Will have to reread this later with a clear head because the more you arguee this is proving you are town when it's clearly NAI at best and probably scum indicative actually, the more I want to lynch you.
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On April 20 2016 00:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, if you really think as mafia I would do this shit while superbia is just giving up then you are way more stupid than I thought. Not to mention my day1 interactions with him (about Palmar for example) which are basically never mafia/mafia in a million years. If I am mafia with superbia there would have been 0 team coordination happening all game. That is never the case if I am mafia (unless I am with SL maybe).
This is something I need to check. Will reread stuff once it's confirmed Superbia is scum.
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On April 20 2016 00:39 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2016 00:36 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:On April 20 2016 00:27 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:On April 20 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:
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I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded. Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game. Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment. What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense. I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted: On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12 Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread. There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants. Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you. Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you. If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you. No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread. Nope. It's like you have 0 idea how this game works. IF super is mafia AND puts in the needed effort and I see that we can maybe save with the obtained town sentiment him THEN I maybe make a post like that. NOT when everything points towards him getting lynched anyways and I am just making myself look like a fool. I am acting exactly like a townie who does not KNOW superbia is mafia and makes sure he knows he can still salvage this if he really tries to. Which is something every townie should do because mislynching an uncced medic in an open setup is mighty retarded. There is 0 scum motivation and a lot of town motivation for what I have done. Meh. Will have to reread this later with a clear head because the more you arguee this is proving you are town when it's clearly NAI at best and probably scum indicative actually, the more I want to lynch you. You will not lynch me bro but don't let me stop you from trying. This whole retarded argumentation makes it way more likely for YOU to be mafia. Logical player my ass. You didn't refute anything I brought up.
You are the one not responding directly to what I'm saying. Your read on Superbia is overexplained and you repeated why you are scumreading him and why doc should not claim. You also left him outs to tryhard, he can't be saved if doc cc but he can make the doc cc. Now you're saying all of this actually makes you town. Bullshit. This is not a strong scum indicator, I'm not calling you slam dunk scum, yet you're reacting and OMGUSing like you are about to get lynched.
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On April 20 2016 00:44 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2016 00:38 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 00:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, if you really think as mafia I would do this shit while superbia is just giving up then you are way more stupid than I thought. Not to mention my day1 interactions with him (about Palmar for example) which are basically never mafia/mafia in a million years. If I am mafia with superbia there would have been 0 team coordination happening all game. That is never the case if I am mafia (unless I am with SL maybe). This is something I need to check. Will reread stuff once it's confirmed Superbia is scum. You need to check a lot of things. When there is an unanimous wagon lynching mafia you never ever ever ever base your reads on how people treated said mafia on that day. This is how you lost to shapelog in storm. People doubting the guy being mafia or giving him outs in a situation like that are almost never his buddies because they know he is going down and try to get their sweet buscred. It is highly irritating that I have to explain something easy like this to you.
Bro if you're town I undersatnd you can be bias. But don't call yourself town over something that obv does not make you town.
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And huge wall of text will have to wait until I get home 'cause I'm leaving in 2 minutes ^^
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On April 20 2016 00:50 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2016 00:44 justanothertownie wrote:On April 20 2016 00:38 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 00:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, if you really think as mafia I would do this shit while superbia is just giving up then you are way more stupid than I thought. Not to mention my day1 interactions with him (about Palmar for example) which are basically never mafia/mafia in a million years. If I am mafia with superbia there would have been 0 team coordination happening all game. That is never the case if I am mafia (unless I am with SL maybe). This is something I need to check. Will reread stuff once it's confirmed Superbia is scum. You need to check a lot of things. When there is an unanimous wagon lynching mafia you never ever ever ever base your reads on how people treated said mafia on that day. This is how you lost to shapelog in storm. People doubting the guy being mafia or giving him outs in a situation like that are almost never his buddies because they know he is going down and try to get their sweet buscred. It is highly irritating that I have to explain something easy like this to you. Bro if you're town I undersatnd you can be bias. But don't call yourself town over something that obv does not make you town.
Not talking about the D1 interactions BTW, maybe this actually makes you town. But your Superbia read doesn't.
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On April 20 2016 00:57 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2016 00:47 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 00:39 justanothertownie wrote:On April 20 2016 00:36 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:On April 20 2016 00:27 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:On April 20 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:
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Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment. What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense. I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted: On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:
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Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread.
There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants. Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you. Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you. If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you. No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread. Nope. It's like you have 0 idea how this game works. IF super is mafia AND puts in the needed effort and I see that we can maybe save with the obtained town sentiment him THEN I maybe make a post like that. NOT when everything points towards him getting lynched anyways and I am just making myself look like a fool. I am acting exactly like a townie who does not KNOW superbia is mafia and makes sure he knows he can still salvage this if he really tries to. Which is something every townie should do because mislynching an uncced medic in an open setup is mighty retarded. There is 0 scum motivation and a lot of town motivation for what I have done. Meh. Will have to reread this later with a clear head because the more you arguee this is proving you are town when it's clearly NAI at best and probably scum indicative actually, the more I want to lynch you. You will not lynch me bro but don't let me stop you from trying. This whole retarded argumentation makes it way more likely for YOU to be mafia. Logical player my ass. You didn't refute anything I brought up. You are the one not responding directly to what I'm saying. Your read on Superbia is overexplained and you repeated why you are scumreading him and why doc should not claim. You also left him outs to tryhard, he can't be saved if doc cc but he can make the doc cc. Now you're saying all of this actually makes you town. Bullshit. This is not a strong scum indicator, I'm not calling you slam dunk scum, yet you're reacting and OMGUSing like you are about to get lynched. AH, so the backpedaling begins. My read is not overexplained. I talked to people who said different things explaining why my way to proceed is better. I left him outs to tryhard because THAT IS WHAT EVERY TOWNIE SHOULD BE DOING - how can you even argue something this retarded? This is never a "scum indicator". You are basing everything around him being confirmed mafia when he just isn't - which is suspicious btw. I am OMGUSING because you are normally one of the smarter people here but what you are saying is utter bullshit over and over again. I know I am not getting lynched this game.
I am considering him 99% scum at this point.
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On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming.
So much explanation to someone agrees with you with what to do.
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On April 20 2016 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2016 00:51 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 00:50 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 00:44 justanothertownie wrote:On April 20 2016 00:38 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 00:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, if you really think as mafia I would do this shit while superbia is just giving up then you are way more stupid than I thought. Not to mention my day1 interactions with him (about Palmar for example) which are basically never mafia/mafia in a million years. If I am mafia with superbia there would have been 0 team coordination happening all game. That is never the case if I am mafia (unless I am with SL maybe). This is something I need to check. Will reread stuff once it's confirmed Superbia is scum. You need to check a lot of things. When there is an unanimous wagon lynching mafia you never ever ever ever base your reads on how people treated said mafia on that day. This is how you lost to shapelog in storm. People doubting the guy being mafia or giving him outs in a situation like that are almost never his buddies because they know he is going down and try to get their sweet buscred. It is highly irritating that I have to explain something easy like this to you. Bro if you're town I undersatnd you can be bias. But don't call yourself town over something that obv does not make you town. Not talking about the D1 interactions BTW, maybe this actually makes you town. But your Superbia read doesn't. It is not even a goddamn read. I said all day that I think he is mafia. All day1 too.
So did I, but you're still calling me a potential scum. Can't have it both ways bro
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