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Well see you all tomorrow
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On April 17 2016 21:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 21:17 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 12:57 rsoultin wrote:reminder to self: verify the sl post palmar's EoD actually looks pretty decent to me after a review of his filter On April 17 2016 07:14 Fazers wrote:On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. Vig shoot this guy. SECONDED. ^ this from the guy who doesn't know what to do yada yada is just meh. looks overdone to me tbh. fazers, we don't get hints. some sites might. we don't. if i'm around long enough + Show Spoiler +and i urge those of you still in the game to do so if i'm not i will push for your lynch before mylo/lylo if you continue to refuse to participate it's not about being right. i've said this several times to you. it's about giving us something to read you by. i'd like your best guesses at alignments and why before the night is over bueno...that's it for tonight i think. reads post later after some more digging Yeah, the Fazer guy needs to put out content asap. He has his flip, now it is time to do work. Maybe he should die in the night otherwise. Onegu is also still a good shot though. Depending on some things shape may be scum and and I give super a chance of at least 50 % to be mafia aswell. I pretty much agree with all of this.
Me too. Onegu or Fazerz needs to die. Superbia's alignment will be proven one way or another before the end of the game.
Don't have any time today so hopefully I'm still alive tomorrow
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Voted Superbia. It's very unlikely that he's blue being AFK since the flip, since he knows he needs to fight hard to not be lynched today. This probably comes from scum not caring enough to defend himself.
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I had lots of work today so I will only be available when I get home in a few hours, I just skimmed to thread to see what happened.
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Superbia if you're town you're super bad. This claim of being "probably" doc + not claiming your save is so unbelievable.
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lol gumshoe it means someone asked the hosts these questions and the hosts clarified it for everyone, that's it
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Tumble is still scum. He's doing the "too scummy to be scum" thing. The case on him is still true.
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On April 19 2016 03:59 gumshoe wrote:alright tumble, lets phrase it a different way On April 16 2016, at14:51 PDT you felt confident enough to name jat town, knowing full well the consequences that would arise if you doubled back on that claim without good reason (ie the consequences your facing right now), what was the source of that confidence? Whats changed? please dont say spidey senses T_T
Please answer this.
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JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed.
On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch.
On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming.
On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 03:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:03 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 02:44 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_- play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him -facedesks- No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus. nope "the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do" i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol >< No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care. if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player.
On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 04:31 Superbia wrote:
Like I agree my d1 was very afkish, and this day isn't any better. But I'm the fucking doctor?? You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went. You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much.
Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular
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SL I'm still waiting for the town ooze I expect from town!you.
On April 18 2016 08:24 sicklucker wrote:
ya shape could def be mafia. his egos soaring here
Expand on this read ? I don't undersatnd the bolded.
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Onegu needs to die too. 100% useless
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My two strong townreads quoting the same post of mine within 30 seconds of each other
Beautiful ^^
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Although SL is kinda right, Shape could be scum not caring after carrying that last game. He's super transparent this game
On April 19 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal? None of your business.  Hmm, I want to check something, since it is not in FAQ
On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims. While i am waiting, Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc. Idk the mechs. of FF's docs.
Why did you feel the need to insist on the fact thjat you were gathering info on the doc role ?
Now that you have this info, what was the thought behind it ?
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Well good night you all, see you tomorrow!
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On April 19 2016 07:26 JustAnotherScummer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:Although SL is kinda right, Shape could be scum not caring after carrying that last game. He's super transparent this game On April 19 2016 00:36 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal? None of your business. Hmm, I want to check something, since it is not in FAQ On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims. While i am waiting, Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc. Idk the mechs. of FF's docs. Why did you feel the need to insist on the fact thjat you were gathering info on the doc role ? Now that you have this info, what was the thought behind it ? because, if the doc (provided it is not super here, which i doubt) couldn't self heal, and he claims, boom. dead Doc. Or likewise if they couldn't reheal the target. Gives mafia a heal free shot (though, like I said, they prob would just kill the doc out right.) Wait... Hold on... Oh yeah, they could of just Rb the guy, stopping the heal lol. Well, anyways, that was my idea behind the mech, question I asked.
Weird. You asked for info about the doc after that post:
On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Hmmm, Out of curiously,
Who did you heal? None of your business.
You sure you didn't ask the info to check if Superbia had a reason to not disclose his target ?
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On April 19 2016 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote:JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed. On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch. On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:03 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 02:44 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:
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Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him.
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This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort.
Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else.
But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment.
And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_- play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him -facedesks- No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus. nope "the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do" i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol >< No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care. if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player. On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 04:31 Superbia wrote:
Like I agree my d1 was very afkish, and this day isn't any better. But I'm the fucking doctor?? You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went. You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much. Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded. Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game.
Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment.
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wow gumshoe your argument about OWS and SL beign scum together 'cause they posted together is so far fetched
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On April 19 2016 13:22 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 13:16 Tumblewood wrote:On April 19 2016 13:12 rsoultin wrote:
:/ so yeah i just looked at the op with all the filters and went meeeeeeh don't wanna
gum/jat/rels still top towns like yeah ^^ i think...i may...want to do the insane...and actually put sl here, too. and what's worse is i'm not even sure why lol it just feeeeeels like he's toooooown cause of engagement and i know jat will jump all over me for this but the only thing i have to say is
feeeeeeels <- i can't explain these bad boys. and given it's sl there's not a whole lot else i can use anyway especially pre-mafia flips
shape bugs me cause of lots of little things really and i'm not sure how valid they are cause i don't think i've ever played with him when i wasn't mafia before and i'm a baddy and don't pay close enough attention when i don't have to figure people out
but this concentrating on irrelevant things today just doesn't make me feel good about him
not as sure on tw cause of bad reasons @.@ no pls rsoul go back to being scum I liked you when I could dismiss everything you said sighwhy is rels a top town for you? also why isn't ows town mmm it may mostly be he's been agreeing with me a lot i'm not gonna lie. i'm susceptible to thinking that someone seeing the game the same way i am for the most part is more likely to be the same alignment. but also he just reminds me of a nicer, calmer version of rayn who likes to focus on the logic behind things and tends to think illogical=scum and that's what his play looks like to me here
What happened to "when he's town we usually don't agree" ?
On April 16 2016 03:05 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2016 02:57 Tumblewood wrote:
rsoul, why do you townread rels after just posting disagreements/question marks in response to him? + Show Spoiler +porque normalmente no estamos de acuerdo...él enfoca en el lógico y yo en otras cosas porque la mayoría de los jugadores no son lógicos. esto no es decir que rels no es del pueblo. creo que es del pueblo porque está preguntando en direcciones diferentes, probablamente para establecer sus opiniones sobre lo más jugadores posible Because we usually don't agree...he focuses on logic while I focus on other things because most players aren't logical. This isn't to say that rels isn't town. I believe he is because he's probing in different directions, which is probably to develop reads on as many players as possible.
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Superbia / Tumble / Onegu / JAS
If one mafia is tryharding, it's JAT.
rsoul and SL both seems town. SL is posting the kind of posting spree I was hoping to see, that he always does as town when he's ranting about something. rsoul might be hard pocketing me with her niceness over me but she has smart reads. She's also implicated in the game, it's not super alignment indicative for her 'cause she's a good scum but it feels real.
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That's because we're posting at the same time in the thread right. We should have been more careful -_-
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