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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 15:34 GMT
#3041
On April 28 2016 00:29 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2016 00:29 Rels wrote:
On April 28 2016 00:25 sicklucker wrote:
Also rels hammering tumble before tumble votes no lynch is kind of scummy. Because thats the tie breaker if it goes 2-2.

You did the exact same thing by voting Tumble before he had the time to do anything. It only shows that I don't need more time weighting you vs Tumble - same as you.


tbh its a trap.. but if tumble literally does nothing oh well

You constantly talking about "traps" instead of things that make people scums is bothering me though. You did the same thing EOD4 with your "vote Tumble" stuff. There is a tons of info in the game already yet you hide your real reads.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 15:37 GMT
#3043
On April 28 2016 00:36 sicklucker wrote:
well were literally doing nothing today. of course im going to try and get information out of you the only other person I could vote

You could do that if you were transparent with your reads before, but you're making it seem like you weren't and were only playing games to gain info.
Please state your reads on Tumble and I with reasonning.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 15:43 GMT
#3048
I won't ever vote you while Tumble is playing like this. But I have the impression that you have no read and you're hiding behind the "it's a trap" card to do what you want without repercussion: try to lynch Tumble EOD4, voting him right now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 15:45 GMT
#3050
On April 28 2016 00:43 sicklucker wrote:
tbh my original plan was to just switch me vote to no lynch 10 second before deadline and see if either you or jat tried to hammer. then i thought about it and this made more sense.

In all fairness but then I thought of this plan

I planned on doing that too p: I guess it doesn't matter anymore then.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 15:46 GMT
#3052
But for real Tumble can die if he cannot be assed to do anything useful today.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 15:49 GMT
#3056
On April 28 2016 00:46 sicklucker wrote:
rels why were you reading the vote thread at eod tho? I was not joking when I thought that was weird

It's an habit, I do that every vote every game to see what happens. I had no reason to do it in this particular vote.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 15:51 GMT
#3057
On April 28 2016 00:48 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2016 00:45 Rels wrote:
On April 28 2016 00:43 sicklucker wrote:
tbh my original plan was to just switch me vote to no lynch 10 second before deadline and see if either you or jat tried to hammer. then i thought about it and this made more sense.

In all fairness but then I thought of this plan

I planned on doing that too p: I guess it doesn't matter anymore then.


that sounds kind of made up

Well if that how this sounds, you can understand how you having literally 0 read in the thread for two days on Tumble and I and only playing games sounds like.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 15:53 GMT
#3060
On April 28 2016 00:52 sicklucker wrote:
well you could kind of say the same for jat and one of us is town for sure

That is 100% wrong. JAT made filter dives and posted his conclusions. Until he claims these were made up traps, every read he has are written in the thread.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 15:55 GMT
#3061
On April 28 2016 00:52 sicklucker wrote:
and tumble too

This is true though. I have no idea what are his reads and why he's having them. He admited his only reason to scumread me was wrong and didn't state a new one. He said he was suspicious of you for "having a weird behaviour" or something like that, and didn't expand. This guy is 100% useless.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 15:55 GMT
#3062
sicklucker now that you have no reason to hide them, state your reads with reasonning on Tumble and I pretty please.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 15:58 GMT
#3064
On April 28 2016 00:56 sicklucker wrote:
I made filter dives before the last vote that mattered. I filter dived when yesterday started (the day onegu died) I posted like 2 pages of quotes and comments then came to a conclusion that onegu was 100% mafia. Voted him and trolled for the rest of the day.

Here I havent filtered dived yet (i need to because I stopped early last time because I had already decidided on my vote for that day) But I still have between 32-90 hours is we sleep. So its not like im not going to do it

Will you do it before the end of this current day ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 16:05 GMT
#3069
On April 28 2016 01:00 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2016 00:55 Rels wrote:
sicklucker now that you have no reason to hide them, state your reads with reasonning on Tumble and I pretty please.


Theres alot of logic that points to you as scum but you played a really clean game. and a double bus early d1 I believe? or was that super tumble then that would only be a single bus.

Tumble thinking im scum all of a sudden is pretty scummy too. But hes pretty new and i was doing weird things so its not a thing I would ride or die with. obv we need to see more from him and I need to reread his filter (in context not a filter dive aka reread the game before I feel comfortable with him either way)

Onegus vote on tumble day 3 makes me think they were setting up a bus to have tumble win in final 3 after bussing onegu yesterday.

Both this vote and your day 1 vote seem equally bad so its a hard spot from vote logic

Even if I was scum, double bus was impossible D1 since Onegu wasn't a lynch candidate, unless you're talking about me supporting a vig shot on Onegu ?
Again, reread the D1 vote, the "logic" doesn't point at me, I voted Tumble when he scumslipped, which is something I can't predict as scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 16:06 GMT
#3072
On April 28 2016 01:05 sicklucker wrote:
This is kind of how I played my last lylo too. pyp. I had no idea who the last scum was and I did a full reread in lylo to figure out who I was going to vote since I had the hammer. It didnt really work out but lets not talk about that. I know i murdered you right before lylo in that and your team was out so not sure if you followed it

Yeah, TT made some sick cases and was ignored. p: Or maybe even lynched, can't remember who got lynched
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 16:12 GMT
#3076
On April 28 2016 01:08 sicklucker wrote:
like even when super was with me in my last scum game. I could tell he was going to paly like shit after carrying that pyp game.

Hes like really weird he will play a perfect scum game (hes beat me twice in final 3) then he will tottaly shit the bed next game. in some huge game imperial I think I busted him day one and he was so bad that i fake claimed cop or something trying to get him lynched.

And this was his third scum roll inarow... Ya its expected he was going to suck really. im sure super knew it and maybe would have mentioned it

If this is true, this points at you being his partner and voting him early TBH. If he was feeling terrible, he would have known he needed to fakeclaim and Tumble or I would have bused him way harder, protected by the fact that he was going to fakeclaim.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 16:15 GMT
#3079
On April 28 2016 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2016 01:05 Rels wrote:
On April 28 2016 01:00 sicklucker wrote:
On April 28 2016 00:55 Rels wrote:
sicklucker now that you have no reason to hide them, state your reads with reasonning on Tumble and I pretty please.


Theres alot of logic that points to you as scum but you played a really clean game. and a double bus early d1 I believe? or was that super tumble then that would only be a single bus.

Tumble thinking im scum all of a sudden is pretty scummy too. But hes pretty new and i was doing weird things so its not a thing I would ride or die with. obv we need to see more from him and I need to reread his filter (in context not a filter dive aka reread the game before I feel comfortable with him either way)

Onegus vote on tumble day 3 makes me think they were setting up a bus to have tumble win in final 3 after bussing onegu yesterday.
Both this vote and your day 1 vote seem equally bad so its a hard spot from vote logic

Even if I was scum, double bus was impossible D1 since Onegu wasn't a lynch candidate, unless you're talking about me supporting a vig shot on Onegu ?
Again, reread the D1 vote, the "logic" doesn't point at me, I voted Tumble when he scumslipped, which is something I can't predict as scum.

You don't need to predict it. You just need to jump on it. Scum is the faction that reacts most of the time.

It's an response to the argument "Rels voted Tumble when the vote was 2/2 Superbia / Tumble", not a general one. If Tumble was super townie but I voted him anyway 'cause I planned on doing that I would have looked terrible.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 16:18 GMT
#3082
On April 28 2016 01:14 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2016 01:12 Rels wrote:
On April 28 2016 01:08 sicklucker wrote:
like even when super was with me in my last scum game. I could tell he was going to paly like shit after carrying that pyp game.

Hes like really weird he will play a perfect scum game (hes beat me twice in final 3) then he will tottaly shit the bed next game. in some huge game imperial I think I busted him day one and he was so bad that i fake claimed cop or something trying to get him lynched.

And this was his third scum roll inarow... Ya its expected he was going to suck really. im sure super knew it and maybe would have mentioned it

If this is true, this points at you being his partner and voting him early TBH. If he was feeling terrible, he would have known he needed to fakeclaim and Tumble or I would have bused him way harder, protected by the fact that he was going to fakeclaim.


well I didnt bus super the game before... and he asked me to I cant make this shit up.

Super wanted me to bus him all game but I went out of my way to keep him alive.

Like this is something that acualy happened. I killed rstoulin for the specific reason that if she flipped scum super would look alot more townie and not get lynched.

I said the logic in the third party qt if you think im making this up for any reason

Sry that is a flawed logic. Just because in one game where Superbia didn't look super terrible you didn't bus him doesn't prove that in another game where Superbia looked terrible from the start you didn't bus him. And it's not even taking into account the fact that in that game Superbia was your only buddy and your jailkeeper.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 16:18 GMT
#3083
I think JAT is trying to say something ^^
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 16:20 GMT
#3087
On April 28 2016 01:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Grrrrr...
Nobody says you planned it. But the fact is that it is a vite to save super at that point. I know it sucks if you are town but you can't defend yourself tthat regardless of your alignment.

False. This "planning" is actually the argument p: the argument is "Rels voted Tumble when it was 2/2", so yeah the timing part of the vote is the argument. It would be true if I had suddenly voted Tumble over Superbia when nothing in particular happened. .But since my vote was motivated by an event happening in the thread, the argument doesn't prove anything anymore.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 16:22 GMT
#3088
Alright bros as much as I love us arguing who is scum when the real one is probably just AFKing and waiting for his lynch, I gotta go home. See you later (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 27 2016 18:23 GMT
#3093
On April 28 2016 01:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2016 01:20 Rels wrote:
On April 28 2016 01:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Grrrrr...
Nobody says you planned it. But the fact is that it is a vite to save super at that point. I know it sucks if you are town but you can't defend yourself tthat regardless of your alignment.

False. This "planning" is actually the argument p: the argument is "Rels voted Tumble when it was 2/2", so yeah the timing part of the vote is the argument. It would be true if I had suddenly voted Tumble over Superbia when nothing in particular happened. .But since my vote was motivated by an event happening in the thread, the argument doesn't prove anything anymore.

No, it is not. You can just jump at an opportunity to save your buddy. Noone says you planned to vote someone else at a specific point in time or votecount. Don't be silly.

I thought SL's argument was that I voted at that specific point in votecount, this point being "2-2". If it's not then I want to know what is his argument.
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