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On April 17 2016 04:06 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2016 21:55 Superbia wrote:
Actually why not.
##vote: rsoultin
Let's see what this brings. Jumping on the easy wagon too. Superbia might be scum
in terms of association this is pretty bad
a cursory scum read but voted a townie instead; the standard way to treat your weakest scum partner
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On April 17 2016 05:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 05:37 Tumblewood wrote:
ok i am messing up in every way imaginable this game
i blame it on phoneposting and not rereading
and on trying to talk about things that happened a day ago that i don't really remember Not believable. ##Vote Tumblewood
pretty muted reaction for someone who has a case like that in front of him
i want to say that it doesn't align with how i'd expect him to react to this (push it to the ends of the earth) but that's probably just me projecting
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On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote:JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed. Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch. Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:03 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 02:44 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_- play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him -facedesks- No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus. nope "the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do" i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol >< No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care. if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player. Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 04:31 Superbia wrote:
Like I agree my d1 was very afkish, and this day isn't any better. But I'm the fucking doctor?? You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went. You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much. Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular
nice perceptiveness
you get some town points back
kinda unrelated: i still kinda like my "rels shallow reads" case from d1, like damn d1tumble i could learn a lot from you you should post more often
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On April 19 2016 23:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 22:57 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 22:55 Onegu wrote:On April 19 2016 22:50 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 22:47 Onegu wrote:On April 17 2016 07:07 Superbia wrote:On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. Vig shoot this guy. You're honestly the dumbest town player ever. Here he scumslips that JAT is town. Frankly, no. At this point he has already claimed so he knows he will die before the end of the game. Anything at all he said after his claim is WIFOM, and actually he probably tried to put his team in a better position for after he's dead, like Kurumi did last game. On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. This is his post right before. Like and all he said was he was a PR before that but wouldnt say what it was then he made that post where he claims vt. So no it does matter... If sub flips scum I will never vote JAT. Mm that might be good actually. Actually he said "you're the dumbest town player ever". The "town" word is here for emphasis and is not very natural. Could very well by fakely spewing his partner town. Doesn't prove anything but it doesn't spew JAT town I think.
rels/jat probably not our scum team
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On April 21 2016 05:27 Rels wrote:
My reads in case I die:
Lynch Onegu / Tumble. If one of them is not scum, lynch JAS.
If there is a tryhard scum, it's JAT. In particular check the way he interacted with Superbia to verify his claim that it's different from mine.
Gumshoe is lock town (read his past games if you're not convinced), OWS (being a dick & not fearing posting in thread) & rsoul (natural reads & implicated to solve the game) are very likely town, SL is maybe town (he's doing this thing I've only seen him do as town where he psots sprees of posts when he spots something he wants to talk about).
If I forgot some people they're null.
Hopefully see you tomorrow!
scumreads contain the requisite two mislynches but can't fault him for that because mine did too
townreads however are spot on
tbh this isn't as indicative as i thought, at least to me
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trends in rels's posting:
- percceptive, which is definitely a part of his town meta
- wanna say shallow reads, but so were everyone's
- found something which seems like it should give him a hard scumread of me but doesn't push me much at all until the last 12 hours
lots of very town stuff conflicts with some very mafia stuff. 60% town
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On April 17 2016 05:54 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 05:52 Fazers wrote:
I voted Tumblewood because majority thought he was mafia but he is voting for himself so I think I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
I know Superbia wanted to lynch me a while back, not sure why. BTW hate this post alot.
come on onegu it was the guy's first game you should consider whether he's just new
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On April 18 2016 03:28 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. You all jumped on him for this post. Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 07:07 Superbia wrote:On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. Vig shoot this guy. You're honestly the dumbest town player ever. But this is a genuine scumslip. He tries to correct himself in the next post when he realized what he did but yeah scumslip.
gaahhh but also this, is it a legit part of his meta to do things like this as scum?
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On April 21 2016 08:19 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 08:03 gumshoe wrote:On April 21 2016 07:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Cool. So I am almost definitely lynching into this pool today: JAS/Tumble/Onegu/SL
Only have to find out which one I want to live the least later. were never lynching tumble / : I wish onegu would do something to mod kill himself cause I think hes town T_T. Fine. JAT GO FUCK YOURSELF AND DIE IN A FIRE, you are such a fucking asshole and no one enjoys playing with you they enjoy it less than playing with me. And when you tell someone to die in a fire you are a bigger asshole than Koshi. I fucking outed of the other game because I dont enjoy playing with assholes. Dont worry I have contact with the people I like in steam and enjoyed alot of the people in this community but JAT you arent one.
i feel obligated to make a comment about this but i don't really have one, don't know enough about onegu to judge. but [referencing the nested quote] did jat actually think onegu was town in this case?
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On April 23 2016 06:35 Onegu wrote:
Calling it right now Tumble, Gumshoe scum team
this is so horribly wrong i can't imagine a townie honestly thinking this
his read on gumshoe is so bad
also, if gumshoe is bad at meta [quoth the onegu], onegu is a million times worse for not seeing him as town here
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trends in onegu's posting:
- sparse
- pretty poorly reasoned
- ignores half the game
- also had that one scumslip post
- fluff
- posted by onegu
really only two reasons to think he's town and one of them is iffy meta. 20% town
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i should read jat but i don't wanna filters suck
tomorrow...
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is this what a ten page filter feels like? are you also looking at my filter with similar dread because you don't want to read 200 posts? anyhoo, current status is
me gumshoe ows = 100% town
sl = 80% town
rels = 60% town
onegu = 20% town
i guess that leaves 40% of a townie for jat but that's not enough because he looks at least equal to rels if not townier, maybe they could take some towniness from sl and be split 55/55
btw don't read page 105 or most of 104 unless you want in on my ramblings which are spread out among 40 posts
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On April 23 2016 12:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 12:26 gumshoe wrote:
I believed in obi sl because it was beautiful, perfect even, was I wrong to want for perfection? but I see the truth of this game now, and it is as ugly as jats opinion of everyone who isn't him. Bro, you are overdoing it now. If you are so mad then you should have pushed Onegu earlier and harder instead of just bashing his general play.
Did you just say this out of pride / to take gumshoe down a notch or did you mean something by it?
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finally got to jat's filter... what i'm not liking about him is that a lot of what he says doesn't seem intended to move the game forward. he's not being a leader, he's just shooting people down. a distinct lack of question marks, and a lot of disagreeing with people without actually commenting on their alignment. jat should know that a townie should do more than just be the bad logic police.
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On April 23 2016 13:17 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 13:09 Tumblewood wrote:On April 23 2016 12:48 justanothertownie wrote:On April 23 2016 12:26 gumshoe wrote:
I believed in obi sl because it was beautiful, perfect even, was I wrong to want for perfection? but I see the truth of this game now, and it is as ugly as jats opinion of everyone who isn't him. Bro, you are overdoing it now. If you are so mad then you should have pushed Onegu earlier and harder instead of just bashing his general play. Did you just say this out of pride / to take gumshoe down a notch or did you mean something by it? its ok I am overdoing it a smidge XD I was also totes wrong many a time this game, BUT NONE OF THAT MATTERS CAUSE I SAID SO. back to jat bashing, ah yes, poor jat with all the power in his hands to solve the game, but no desire for that responsibility. You want absolvement of the blame? I offer that, you want victory? I offer that too. I dont know if were both going to live through tonight jat, but if we do, I want you in my pen, I can convince the others but nothing I say every convinces you, not for long anyways. I want your trust, and I want your loyalty if for no other reason then to get me off your back and to be able to blame me for the coming loss if thats what it comes to. Can I count on you?
if i can't trust you idk who i can trust
but i won't sheep you without a convincing case
what was the point of this post? because at best this is fluff and at worst pocketing
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yeah i'm through page 5 of jat's filter and he has maybe one concrete read
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he falls once again into the possible final scum category
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closest thing to a townread i've seen so far is d1 on me, but that was "not seeing why he's scum"
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my plan for the rest of this game
step 1: lynch onegu
step 2: determine which of jat and rels is scum
step 3: convince everyone not to lynch me
step 4: lynch the scummier one of rels and jat
step 5: pray
step 6: ???
step 7: profit
sheeping encouraged
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