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On March 04 2016 03:18 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Sandroba..that philisophy point, if i'm scum how do you see that going down?
In the QT:
me-yo thecow what were you talking about with that philisophy bit?
cow-oh i was talking about post number whatever
me-cool now ill use that in my defense of you
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You are scum. I suppose what you did is assume thecow was talking about w/e and just jumped to his defense. What matters here is not how it happened in the scum QT, it's that you were NOT INTERESTED to know his explanation for it, jumped to w/e conclusion you saw fit and defended him for it. YOU IGNORED ALL MY POINTS ON HIM AND FUCKING TR HIM. I can see a person like not finding my case 100% danming and maybe the dude is just new, but to fucking TOWN READ him base on the couple post he made is simply unfathomable. It does not compute. Thus, you must have been pushing an agenda. The dude posted 4 posts, fucked off and you insisted on defending him at MULTIPLE OCASIONS. You weren't even like "yeah cow, what's up with this post, can you explain some shit or post some more?" NOPE. INSTANT TR. Have a nice day cow you townie, don't need to post anymore.
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On March 02 2016 00:57 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 23:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@marv, both cow and damdred have made decent deep thought posts.
I think you may be sheeping outdated sandroba feels.
Can I interest you in a sent lynch? You say Damdred has made decent posts, but his one post that was actually trying to do something you called out as a scum-slip: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 12:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 01 2016 11:50 Damdred wrote:Actually yes I was sort of waiting for FF to respond to me in serousness but hes not, and this is the reasoning behind why I asked FF his read on QOB. There are a couple of mindsets that you have as town in a game when someone comes after you, like qob is doing to FF. 1) This person is scum trying to discredit me or try to get a mislynch on me. 2) This person after careful consideration is town whos in a tunnel, but they are still town. Generally especially early in the game mindset one is really prominent especially when information isn't as readily available. Here is what FF said On March 01 2016 08:53 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 01 2016 08:50 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob why are you being so arrogant? For a player of my stature im being quite humble. I mean, i have found scum, why would i not try to expose them? Please, this is Mafia 101 my friend. Except you have not found scum so your arrogance is misplaced FF instead of trying to figure out QOB alignment or even divulge his read on him automatically takes mindset two. It is hinted at strongly by the sentence structure and how he says it, he sees QOB as being misguided and scum can't be misguided for going after a towny, only a town can be misguided. So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure. This point is kind of scumslip like. My problem with this is experiential rather than theoretical. I've scumread people who have said stuff like this in the same paragraph as nullreading someone, and they turned out to be town. So I don't think it means he actually has a townread on quob. Can you elaborate more on your Damdred read (which posts do you think were good?) cause I have difficulty reading him. Also, you said you like TheCows post: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 22:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:damdred/thecow
thecow is being tight-lipped for the most part. I checked this out: On March 01 2016 05:44 TheCow wrote:
#243-244 appears to be an attempt to discredit the attack against Sentinel -- his partner. Leveraging the style of qob as well as his newness to sidestep the read. He's talking about these quotes: On March 01 2016 02:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob is new but trying hard to throw scum on my partner because he was aggresive and voted me.
Wowie On March 01 2016 02:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I like that you're trying qob but you're off to a bad start I think it's a smart way to describe what FF is doing. As for damdred, he's reading the thread closely so that gives him townpoints. Verdict: town enough But you missed his other post significant post: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.
sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier. I don't like this post at all. Even is Sandroba is mistaken about the point of TheCow's post, Sandroba's post was good and the pressure on TheCow is justified. So his reason to find Sandroba scummy is very weak in my opinion, but he does so regardless. It's just a bad reaction to being called out. However! He can read Qob and he feels town, so the slot must be town, right? But! Sandroba is still scummy, because of that one reaction post. He is trying to discredit Sandroba's post by calling it scummy, but at the same time doesn't dare to call him scum. Not a real defense and no progression either. Do you not agree that this post is bad? Why did you leave it out of your analysis?
Reading through the game again and your other your partner is making a lot of sense koshi. Look at this post by him. He is questioning kush on exactly the BS I'm trying to point out.
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On March 02 2016 01:15 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 01:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.
sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier. yeah this post doesn't really make sense. Contradictions that are super obvious don't make me scumread people though. I read it as sandroba being scummy because he voted thecow without understanding the cow's post (the one about philosophy). I think Sandroba understood TheCows post very well and I fail to see why TheCow would think otherwise. Sure, maybe Sandroba's conclusion about him being scum is incorrect but that's just early pushing. I feel like TheCow's overall reaction and mindset is more likely to come from mafia than town, regardless of the contradiction in the post itself.
On March 02 2016 01:21 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 01:18 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 01:15 Felkyr wrote:On March 02 2016 01:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.
sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier. yeah this post doesn't really make sense. Contradictions that are super obvious don't make me scumread people though. I read it as sandroba being scummy because he voted thecow without understanding the cow's post (the one about philosophy). I think Sandroba understood TheCows post very well and I fail to see why TheCow would think otherwise. Sure, maybe Sandroba's conclusion about him being scum is incorrect but that's just early pushing. I feel like TheCow's overall reaction and mindset is more likely to come from mafia than town, regardless of the contradiction in the post itself. Sandroba: Says he can't understand the "philosophy" of the thread (w/e that means) "w/e that means"=he doesn't understand it That's not the same... I think he very well understood what TheCow was saying, he just dismisses it as being crap. Still doesn't change the nature of TheCow's reaction though.
On March 02 2016 01:27 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 01:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Actually thecow was referring to a specific discussion he didnt' think was useful when he talked about "philosophy": On February 29 2016 10:17 Damdred wrote:
Depends on the circumstances.
My general philosophy after some headaches is lynch when we have a cc situation otherwise let mafia deal with it during the night.
If it's late in game it's best to,ignore the claim and parse them from what they did during the game. Obviously probably will have a cc in this situation. How do you come to that conclusion? I don't think that is true. But even if it is true, again, it doesn't change anything about TheCow's reaction. That was only one part of Sandroba's post. Why are you defending TheCow like this?
Again your partner showing who is boss. This line of questioning happened and kush never gave a reasonable explanation for it.
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On March 04 2016 03:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:read in reverse: + Show Spoiler +kush
03-01-2016
11:40 AM ET (US) but i do that a lot when im town
74Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:38 AM ET (US) /m73 that is what i thought at 1st, but then he contradictions himself about fixing it.
It also would be nice if he had explain them instead of going. They are scum, Now they are, No maybe they are. No I am back to think they are.
73kush
03-01-2016
11:36 AM ET (US) that's why he has too many scum reads, because ha has scumread everyone except rels.
Having too many scumreads is a townie trait I think. You look at your reads and you have too many scumreads so you're like, "hmm im doing it wrong" and you reassess.
72Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:34 AM ET (US) /m71 it just does not make sense that he does not want too many scum reads, but has practically scum read everyone in his posts expect Rels. :/
71kush
03-01-2016
11:28 AM ET (US) his read progression looks like mine. have a list one hour and have a totally different one the next.
70kush
03-01-2016
11:28 AM ET (US) whys that scummy
69Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:28 AM ET (US) Idk what to think of that team.
Damdred I want to TR
TheCow i want to Scum Read.
68Shapelog
03-01-2016
11:17 AM ET (US) Another point of the cow,
He had a lot of postings about scum reads and left the thread to revised them due to having to many.
I fail to see how that proves anything. You can easily keep up a fake QT throghout the game pretending you are talking about shit. And why shapelog does not show his concerns about cow on the thread? You can see that pretty much every other team have people disagreeing with each others' reads all the time and voicing their concern independently in the thread. why does shapelog never comments on my case on cow then, if he was thinking he was scummy?
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welp there goes that idea. you are not a genius anymore VE =/. Maybe you are an evil genius.
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Sorry if I made you rage kush, I really thought you were the last one =/
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koshi why are you angry and want to throw the game? Do you realise I was trying very hard to find the last mafia? I'm just playing the game here, it's unfortunate kush posted something he wasn't suppose to and I'm sorry if I somehow made him act recklessly. Truth is I feel like I'm the only one digging up stuff and if you guys were putting in the effort in the first place this wouldn't be so hard.
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On March 04 2016 06:42 Tictock wrote:Shortest, sweetest way I can try to make my point. Probably my last post. Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 10:07 sandroba wrote:
Well I we have no other claims we have no choice but to believe him. Maybe mafia's plan is to entice a possible parity cop into coming foward and possibly lynching team cow? Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 10:30 sandroba wrote:
Damdred isn't up for consideration, dunno why TT wrote that theory. Like IF some parity cop ends up flipping we CAN think about damdred being mafia. Otherwise treat him as confirmed. Sand was certain that there was a cop out there and trying to get them to claim so he could lynch Damdred. Only reason Town would even think of talking about a cop at that point is if they were one, and they would NEVER say that a cop claiming is grounds to reexamine Damdreds claim, kus it's totally possible town has both. Sand knew town did not kus he knew Damdred's claim was fake, thats why he kept talking about a cop. Mafia at this point in the game were dead sure that a Cop was the only role town could possibly have.
The fucking capitalized IF for sure demonstrates certainty.
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@FF I take it this is you saying you will be voting for my team and we are scum?
I want to hear what VE has to say.
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On March 04 2016 08:49 Koshi wrote:
qob. I am 100% voting you guys tomorrow btw. Too many reasons why you 2 are mafia.
koshi I want to hear you explain why I'm mafia.
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Can we vote for a no lynch?
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That is a fact, but only now I know the case was bullshit. I thought I had figured it out.
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How does that make me mafia. Didn't you make a bs case on marv? Didn't TT make multiple bs cases on me? Haven't everyone ever treated some person the alignment we don't know as town when we think we got the game figured out?
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On March 04 2016 12:23 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 12:20 sandroba wrote:
How does that make me mafia. Didn't you make a bs case on marv? Didn't TT make multiple bs cases on me? Haven't everyone ever treated some person the alignment we don't know as town when we think we got the game figured out? Sure. But it's not that. It's about how you didn't touch VE at all and just went for Kush.
I wrote I thought it was him right before he brought up kush again. I right before that I thought it was sent. For sure I'm jumping around like crazy, but that's just how my head works. And if kush hadn't got himself modkilled I'm sure we would have sorted it out eventually.
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On March 04 2016 12:26 Koshi wrote:
I think it is you. The only way I wont pressure Felkyr into voting you is when you can give us reasonable doubt it is VE.
Maybe something with Rels his read and VE his opportunistic vote to get rid of Rels. That vote kinda bothers me.
wtf? you were thinking it was VE yourself. How is me pressuring people and trying to firgure out the game suddenly makes me mafia? What about everything else I've done this game? Try fitting that into a mafia perspective. I'm really trying hard to understand why you are not just fucking reading my filter and realising there is no way in hell I'm mafia.
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On March 04 2016 12:26 Koshi wrote:
I think it is you. The only way I wont pressure Felkyr into voting you is when you can give us reasonable doubt it is VE.
Maybe something with Rels his read and VE his opportunistic vote to get rid of Rels. That vote kinda bothers me.
Honestly I'm not discarding the possibility it's you. That's why I want us to no lynch today, because at this point I'm not 100% town on anyone.
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On March 04 2016 12:26 Koshi wrote:
I think it is you. The only way I wont pressure Felkyr into voting you is when you can give us reasonable doubt it is VE.
Maybe something with Rels his read and VE his opportunistic vote to get rid of Rels. That vote kinda bothers me.
If you are town you should be concerned with that yourself, since I'm not the only one losing if everyone decides to lynch me.
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On March 04 2016 12:37 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 12:32 sandroba wrote:On March 04 2016 12:26 Koshi wrote:
I think it is you. The only way I wont pressure Felkyr into voting you is when you can give us reasonable doubt it is VE.
Maybe something with Rels his read and VE his opportunistic vote to get rid of Rels. That vote kinda bothers me. If you are town you should be concerned with that yourself, since I'm not the only one losing if everyone decides to lynch me. IF I AM TOWN? IF? LOL
ARE YOU OUTRAGED? I FEEL THE SAME WAY!
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On March 04 2016 12:38 Koshi wrote:
You have been pleading to me the last 500 posts and now you type "if you are town"
unfortunately I find myself in this position where i have to plead people not to lynch the most obvious town there ever was.
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On March 04 2016 12:34 Felkyr wrote:
Sandroba can you tell me who you would lynch right now?
Rereading the game I don't think FF's team can be mafia because cow, who I don't believe was bussing at that point, said he was suspicious of them. As much as they are not playing the game as I think that is the hardest evidence pointing to someone's innocence.
So right now I'm thinking it's VE, but I want to hear what he has to say.
As I said I'm not discounting the possibility it is you team. As I recollect your team never voted team cownadow day1 and the town tell I had on you for pushing what I said about cow, you used it to pressure kush, which is understandable, but now we know he was town. You never actually went after cow and never voted for him d1, despite saying that you thought my post had merit. On the contrary koshi pushed a ton of people who were not cow d1. I did and I do have a town read on you guys, but at this point I have things that point to town on all teams remaining, so someone must be doing a good job.
So that's my position as of now.
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